Re: [videoblogging] Re: Talent Agency Is Aiming to Find Web Video Stars
Hello Kent, Would you be willing to connect me with UTA? I will be at the Vloggies, and staying over in San Francisco until Monday, when I head to NYC for a few meetings. I travel today - my cell phone is 808-384-5554. Many thanks in advance for your assistance. Let's us keep talking too. Revver is really working us and though we have different things going on with our shows, I think we have more in common than different. Aloha, Rox On 10/25/06, Kent Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UTA is our agency. From my experience -- no one cares about you and your interests except for the people that are on your team. The big media players all want to buy you and your content for nothing. They want to lock you into deals that benefit them. Agents bring experience and tenacity. They only make money if you make money. Agents know how the big boys have negotiated in the past and bring that experience to you. If you don't want make money, don't get an agent. But even if you accept $100 and you have to sign a contract, you should start thinking about the long term implications of what you're doing. The biggest thing I've learned is that while I may have an instinct for business, I do not have the tools or the experience to get the job done. I want to be the next Spielberg or Rodriguez, telling stories on a big scale, but I can't get there without good advice and great negotiations. People like Brent Weinstein, Barret Garese, Jay Gassner and Larry Salz at UTA, and John Elliott at Gold/Miller are now giving me that advice. That's not to say that I don't have to educate them about the new realities of creating content in the online world. Some of them think I'm weird for wanting to self-publish our DVD. But it's a learning curve on both sides. -Kent, askaninja.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jan / The Faux Press [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/25/technology/25agency.html?ex=1319428800en=108d1702877c6b89ei=5090partner=rssuserlandemc=rss *http://tinyurl.com/y9ernm *LOS ANGELES, Oct. 24 — One of Hollywood's top five talent agencies has created an online unit devoted to scouting out up-and-coming creators of Internet content — particularly video — and finding work for them in Web-based advertising and entertainment, as well as in the older media. XO Jan * * -- The Faux Press - better than real http://fauxpress.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian http://www.beachwalks.tv http://www.barefeetshop.com http://www.barefeetstudios.com http://www.inthetransition.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Talent Agency Is Aiming to Find Web Video Stars
Howdy Kent, Thanks for sharing so freely.. that's probably the best advice and insight I've read in some time. I think this clearly illustrates a good point. There's a tremendous value right here... not just listening to Kent ... learning from each other. This is the anti-dote to false promises... by all means experimetn... experiment a lot... just make sure to minimize your downside, fail quickly... and most importantly of all share your experiences. Kent, thanks for king so much ass. :) -Mike mefeedia.com mmeiser.com/blog On 10/25/06, Kent Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UTA is our agency. From my experience -- no one cares about you and your interests except for the people that are on your team. The big media players all want to buy you and your content for nothing. They want to lock you into deals that benefit them. Agents bring experience and tenacity. They only make money if you make money. Agents know how the big boys have negotiated in the past and bring that experience to you. If you don't want make money, don't get an agent. But even if you accept $100 and you have to sign a contract, you should start thinking about the long term implications of what you're doing. The biggest thing I've learned is that while I may have an instinct for business, I do not have the tools or the experience to get the job done. I want to be the next Spielberg or Rodriguez, telling stories on a big scale, but I can't get there without good advice and great negotiations. People like Brent Weinstein, Barret Garese, Jay Gassner and Larry Salz at UTA, and John Elliott at Gold/Miller are now giving me that advice. That's not to say that I don't have to educate them about the new realities of creating content in the online world. Some of them think I'm weird for wanting to self-publish our DVD. But it's a learning curve on both sides. -Kent, askaninja.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jan / The Faux Press [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/25/technology/25agency.html?ex=1319428800en=108d1702877c6b89ei=5090partner=rssuserlandemc=rss *http://tinyurl.com/y9ernm *LOS ANGELES, Oct. 24 — One of Hollywood's top five talent agencies has created an online unit devoted to scouting out up-and-coming creators of Internet content — particularly video — and finding work for them in Web-based advertising and entertainment, as well as in the older media. XO Jan * * -- The Faux Press - better than real http://fauxpress.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Talent Agency Is Aiming to Find Web Video Stars
On 10/25/06, Kent Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks. I mean as we can all see through the YouTube sale, someone is getting rich off of the stuff we're creating, and that certainly isn't us. You hit the nail on the head. It's of extreme irony that youtube claims to be about user generated content and yet they're revenue plan seems to be to treat those cretors as the same old couch potatoes and sell their eyeballs to the highest bidder. Hilarious. Even when you sorta passively agree to a TOS you're allowing someone else to make a buck off of your work. There is a tradeoff -- if I had to pay for the bandwidth bill for AskANinja.com I wouldn't be here today, or I would have already had to make a deal someone bigger. When I hear about the crappy deals that people have been signing it makes me sick. A major studio just approached us to create a custom piece for them, fully licensed and released, for $500. And I know that people will take that -- but come on, the legal bill for accepting an offer like that is going to be ten times that. We started seeing this with Subway and the We love the moon hamsters they did a we love subway version... let's also not forget the jibjab people... but pardon my french... FUCK if they expect you to sell out your brand to use it to shill their products for $500 that's a fucking insult! Ask a Nija is a premium new media brand... it should be selling at a premium... I hope you told them either subtley or not so subtley what you thought of them. Also there's a huge issue of where user generated video becomes work for hire. Meaning at some point you as the producer become responsible for production insurance and, horror of all horrors, Errors and Omissions insurance. Both of which aren't cheap. Precisely... age old issue. People... make sure anything you do you retain/OWN your copyright and the rights to use the work in the future. Avoid any non-compete and non-disclosure crap to... and exclusivity... Obviously there may be a time and a place for such clauses... but these are particular points to watch out for in any contract. Current TV had some particularly heighnous exclusivity crap in their EULA... somethign about one year exclusivity on your content... and what do you get for that? to submit your content to them for consideration Current TV has been a massive failure in my book. They should have called it Sweatshop TV... instead of getting malasian kids to make nikes for US kid's they're getting US... kids to make cultural consumables for other US... kids... it's either brilliant or evil depend on your ethical and business sense... but either way, one word comes up. Explotive. With all the other evangelism and education going on in this space we must also protect those new to the space from exploitation... with educational how to's must come advice on how not to. Just don't sell cheap -- these are Fortune 500 companies that spend billions of dollars a year to promote and advertise themselves. If it doesn't feel right -- SAY NO. or ask for help from someone like UTA. If you're going to become a business, those mundane businessy details will come back to bite you someday, so build them into your budgets. No one wants to make a video for $500, and then be sued by someone who feel libeled by your creation for $10,000,000 (something that is a possibility). -Kent, askaninja.com Well said... particular for those culture remixers who use a sound byte or a sound. Zadi's Wake me up when september ends about Huricane Katrina is a good example... it was seen by 100's of thousands if not millions... but the central piece was greenday's song greenday ultimately gave their unsigned approval... but once large scale distribution... or even a little bit of profit comes into the picture... ANY copyright infringment is a bad thing... and fair use gets extremely sticky... There's an old saying in the copyright world... iit's not copyright infringement untill someone makes some money... then everything is copyright infringement. Particularly when this media crosses over from our vlogs or say from youtube to TV... suddenly the whole game changes... TV and Cable providers don't get cease and decist letters... so called take down notices like ISP's do... they get letters saying... where do we send the lawsuit for damage done. Even if you ARE in the right you better make damn sure whatever money you make will cover your insurance fees or legal fees. It doesn't pay to be right when you're broke. Which brings us right back to Job Jab and their famed Kerry vs. Bush animation back in the 2004 presidential election. They actually got sued for parodying this land is your land, this land is my land They WERE in the right, because parody is fare use... and of course political parody is in my opinion the highest aim and right of fair use... and the court eventually ruled that way... but if the EFF (electronic frontires
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Talent Agency Is Aiming to Find Web Video Stars
Great to hear such a rousing endorsement for Agents! On 10/25/06, Kent Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UTA is our agency. From my experience -- no one cares about you and your interests except for the people that are on your team. The big media players all want to buy you and your content for nothing. They want to lock you into deals that benefit them. Agents bring experience and tenacity. They only make money if you make money. Agents know how the big boys have negotiated in the past and bring that experience to you. If you don't want make money, don't get an agent. But even if you accept $100 and you have to sign a contract, you should start thinking about the long term implications of what you're doing. The biggest thing I've learned is that while I may have an instinct for business, I do not have the tools or the experience to get the job done. I want to be the next Spielberg or Rodriguez, telling stories on a big scale, but I can't get there without good advice and great negotiations. People like Brent Weinstein, Barret Garese, Jay Gassner and Larry Salz at UTA, and John Elliott at Gold/Miller are now giving me that advice. That's not to say that I don't have to educate them about the new realities of creating content in the online world. Some of them think I'm weird for wanting to self-publish our DVD. But it's a learning curve on both sides. -Kent, askaninja.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Jan / The Faux Press [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/25/technology/25agency.html?ex=1319428800en=108d1702877c6b89ei=5090partner=rssuserlandemc=rss *http://tinyurl.com/y9ernm *LOS ANGELES, Oct. 24 One of Hollywood's top five talent agencies has created an online unit devoted to scouting out up-and-coming creators of Internet content particularly video and finding work for them in Web-based advertising and entertainment, as well as in the older media. XO Jan * * -- The Faux Press - better than real http://fauxpress.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Ted Tagami Universus Networks, LLC U N I V E R S U S . N E T Human Powered Expedition: www.expedition360.com/journal [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
