[videoblogging] Re: Video contest: $25,000 top prize! Enough for you and your favourite charity.

2008-05-05 Thread ruperthowe
Re: my/Irina's point about avoiding gaming in an online contest...  

The number of views/votes can help point the way to good videos, but
are not the right way to choose a winner in a competition.

I think Nokia have set up their competition right, and that you guys
at Microsoft should change your rules to follow Nokia's lead.  In the
Nokia Awards, a few people gamed the system to get hugely
disproportionate numbers of votes (as always happens), but the 5
finalists were chosen by the personal judgement of the people running
the competition.  They looked at the 20 most popular videos and chose
5 finalists.  This way they could weed out cheating and weren't
obliged to include the video(s) with most (apparently gamed) votes.

It doesn't even have to be about unfair manipulation - just about
weight of online presence. For example, I'm sure I had a small
advantage over most other competitors in the Awards because of my
friends in the videoblogging community and on Twitter being ready to
vote for me.  But in the end, this was levelled out by the human
judgement element.

Rupert
http://twittervlog.tv/

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 so how are things going tony
 
 are you getting many more entries?
 
 i agree with rupert
 
 views and votes are super easy to game
 
 but i suppose another way to determine a winner is really hard
 
 :)
 
 On 4/21/08, Tony Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Hey friendly vloggers,
 
  We just launched a video contest at Microsoft Home Magazine. The
top prize
  is $25,000
  and so far only a handful of people have entered: 68 as of this
evening.
  Did I mention the
  winner gets $25,000?. I watch your videos, I know what you are
capable of.
 
  Share your passion!
 
  Here's the url to the video:
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHzQeQIBWfE
 
  You can enter here:
 
  http://www.microsoft.ca/passion
 
  Please pass the word around!
 
  Thanks
 
  Tony Armstrong
 
   
 
 
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Video contest: $25,000 top prize! Enough for you and your favourite charity.

2008-05-05 Thread Bill Cammack
Entertaining. 

http://www.microsoft.com/canada/home/contests/shareyourpassion/viewallsubmissions.aspx?vidId=d038ef22-1ff7-4e66-9c3c-acdb0cbdb750

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, ruperthowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hah! :D Thanks, Irina. But it should have been so much better.  The
 deadline was 5am GMT last Monday morning and I remembered at 1am, just
 as I was finising packing up to emigrate. So I shot it at 2am in my
 empty house and went back to my mother-in-law's house to cut it on her
 PC at 4am, then ran out of time and had technical problems uploading.
 Finally got it in at 4.57am.  
 It's one of the least viewed of all the 170 or so videos there.  Draw
 your own conclusions... :)
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Irina irinaski@ wrote:
 
  loving rupert's submission
  
 

http://www.microsoft.com/canada/home/contests/shareyourpassion/viewallsubmissions.aspx?vidId=d038ef22-1ff7-4e66-9c3c-acdb0cbdb750
  
  On 5/4/08, Tony Armstrong cottager@ wrote:
  
   here: http://www.microsoft.ca/passion
   soon!
  
   t
   On May 4, 2008, at 5:42 PM, Irina wrote:
  
   where to we vote? :)
  
   On 5/4/08, Tony Armstrong cottager@ wrote:
   
 Hey Irna.
We ended-up with lots of entries which we've narrowed down to
25 for
voting. We'll see how the voting goesÂ… thanks for asking!
   
T
   
   
On May 4, 2008, at 6:31 AM, Irina wrote:
   
so how are things going tony
   
are you getting many more entries?
   
i agree with rupert
   
views and votes are super easy to game
   
but i suppose another way to determine a winner is really hard
   
:)
   
On 4/21/08, Tony Armstrong cottager@ wrote:

   Hey friendly vloggers,

 We just launched a video contest at Microsoft Home Magazine.
 The top
 prize is $25,000
 and so far only a handful of people have entered: 68 as of this
 evening. Did I mention the
 winner gets $25,000?. I watch your videos, I know what you are
 capable
 of.

 Share your passion!

 Here's the url to the video:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHzQeQIBWfE

 You can enter here:

 http://www.microsoft.ca/passion

 Please pass the word around!

 Thanks

 Tony Armstrong

  

   
   
   
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[videoblogging] Re: Video contest: $25,000 top prize! Enough for you and your favourite charity.

2008-05-04 Thread ruperthowe
Hah! :D Thanks, Irina. But it should have been so much better.  The
deadline was 5am GMT last Monday morning and I remembered at 1am, just
as I was finising packing up to emigrate. So I shot it at 2am in my
empty house and went back to my mother-in-law's house to cut it on her
PC at 4am, then ran out of time and had technical problems uploading.
Finally got it in at 4.57am.  
It's one of the least viewed of all the 170 or so videos there.  Draw
your own conclusions... :)

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 loving rupert's submission
 

http://www.microsoft.com/canada/home/contests/shareyourpassion/viewallsubmissions.aspx?vidId=d038ef22-1ff7-4e66-9c3c-acdb0cbdb750
 
 On 5/4/08, Tony Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  here: http://www.microsoft.ca/passion
  soon!
 
  t
  On May 4, 2008, at 5:42 PM, Irina wrote:
 
  where to we vote? :)
 
  On 5/4/08, Tony Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Hey Irna.
   We ended-up with lots of entries which we've narrowed down to 25 for
   voting. We'll see how the voting goesÂ… thanks for asking!
  
   T
  
  
   On May 4, 2008, at 6:31 AM, Irina wrote:
  
   so how are things going tony
  
   are you getting many more entries?
  
   i agree with rupert
  
   views and votes are super easy to game
  
   but i suppose another way to determine a winner is really hard
  
   :)
  
   On 4/21/08, Tony Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
  Hey friendly vloggers,
   
We just launched a video contest at Microsoft Home Magazine.
The top
prize is $25,000
and so far only a handful of people have entered: 68 as of this
evening. Did I mention the
winner gets $25,000?. I watch your videos, I know what you are
capable
of.
   
Share your passion!
   
Here's the url to the video:
   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHzQeQIBWfE
   
You can enter here:
   
http://www.microsoft.ca/passion
   
Please pass the word around!
   
Thanks
   
Tony Armstrong
   
 
   
  
  
  
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