Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
It's because I laid hands on my Mac first and then did a rain dance :-) That's pretty freaky that 75% of your class could, but 25% couldn't! One more thought on the differences between our two Macs - I don't have iMovie 06 on mine ... I wonder if that makes some crazy difference? David Lee King davidleeking.com - blog davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog twitter | skype: davidleeking On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:21 AM, ryanne hodson wrote: > meant to update y'all the other day > yeah i tried file > import movies (i swear this did not work 2 months ago) > and it worked > didn't bring the files in straight like from iphoto (which is what it > should f...@#$% do) > it converts the file to Apple Intermediate Codec and puts a copy in > the project folder > which is fine if that's what it needs to do > i just wish it was smarter > like if i dragged it into the program (ala imovie06) it would just > convert and be ready to edit > or it saw it in photo like David Lee King can. > > PLUS we taught a workshop with a bunch of college students who used the > flip > and 75% of the mac users could bring the clips in fine (other 25% had > to use MPEG Streamclip) > 99% of the PC users could bring the clips into Movie Maker fine (which > also was not the case when i tested this 2 months ago) > > -ryanne > > -- > 508-264-0562 > http://RyanIsHungry.com > Twitter: http://twitter.com/ryanne > AIM: VideoRodeo > > > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Markus Sandy wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jul 2, 2009, at 11:57 AM, ryanne hodson wrote: > > > >> i really don't know what the deal is > >> i can't get any flip clips to be recognized my imovie 09 v.0.8.3 > >> they're in my iphoto > >> and imovie refuses to see them. > >> it brings Xacti Mp4s in fine. > >> i even tried one of David Lee King's clips. > > > > interesting > > usually, i use import in imovie and it works fine with flip hd .MP4's > > > > so I just tried importing to iphoto. it imported to iphoto ok, but I > > don't see the video in imovie under photos last import! > > > > have you tried file | import | movies in imovie? > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
p.s. and 3 students had imovie 06 working with the flip video clips in less than 5 mintues they were editing before i even explained anything that was the beauty of the DV conversion in that version, just throw clips in, it knows what to do. -ryanne -- 508-264-0562 http://RyanIsHungry.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/ryanne AIM: VideoRodeo On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:21 AM, ryanne hodson wrote: > meant to update y'all the other day > yeah i tried file > import movies (i swear this did not work 2 months ago) > and it worked > didn't bring the files in straight like from iphoto (which is what it > should f...@#$% do) > it converts the file to Apple Intermediate Codec and puts a copy in > the project folder > which is fine if that's what it needs to do > i just wish it was smarter > like if i dragged it into the program (ala imovie06) it would just > convert and be ready to edit > or it saw it in photo like David Lee King can. > > PLUS we taught a workshop with a bunch of college students who used the flip > and 75% of the mac users could bring the clips in fine (other 25% had > to use MPEG Streamclip) > 99% of the PC users could bring the clips into Movie Maker fine (which > also was not the case when i tested this 2 months ago) > > -ryanne > > -- > 508-264-0562 > http://RyanIsHungry.com > Twitter: http://twitter.com/ryanne > AIM: VideoRodeo > > > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Markus Sandy wrote: >> >> >> >> On Jul 2, 2009, at 11:57 AM, ryanne hodson wrote: >> >>> i really don't know what the deal is >>> i can't get any flip clips to be recognized my imovie 09 v.0.8.3 >>> they're in my iphoto >>> and imovie refuses to see them. >>> it brings Xacti Mp4s in fine. >>> i even tried one of David Lee King's clips. >> >> interesting >> usually, i use import in imovie and it works fine with flip hd .MP4's >> >> so I just tried importing to iphoto. it imported to iphoto ok, but I >> don't see the video in imovie under photos last import! >> >> have you tried file | import | movies in imovie? >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
meant to update y'all the other day yeah i tried file > import movies (i swear this did not work 2 months ago) and it worked didn't bring the files in straight like from iphoto (which is what it should f...@#$% do) it converts the file to Apple Intermediate Codec and puts a copy in the project folder which is fine if that's what it needs to do i just wish it was smarter like if i dragged it into the program (ala imovie06) it would just convert and be ready to edit or it saw it in photo like David Lee King can. PLUS we taught a workshop with a bunch of college students who used the flip and 75% of the mac users could bring the clips in fine (other 25% had to use MPEG Streamclip) 99% of the PC users could bring the clips into Movie Maker fine (which also was not the case when i tested this 2 months ago) -ryanne -- 508-264-0562 http://RyanIsHungry.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/ryanne AIM: VideoRodeo On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Markus Sandy wrote: > > > > On Jul 2, 2009, at 11:57 AM, ryanne hodson wrote: > >> i really don't know what the deal is >> i can't get any flip clips to be recognized my imovie 09 v.0.8.3 >> they're in my iphoto >> and imovie refuses to see them. >> it brings Xacti Mp4s in fine. >> i even tried one of David Lee King's clips. > > interesting > usually, i use import in imovie and it works fine with flip hd .MP4's > > so I just tried importing to iphoto. it imported to iphoto ok, but I > don't see the video in imovie under photos last import! > > have you tried file | import | movies in imovie? > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >
[videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
When I bought my Flip, I also downloaded a dodad called Perian that lives in your System Preferences: http://perian.org/ The description on their website reads: Perian enables QuickTime application support for additional media: * File formats: AVI, DIVX, FLV, MKV, GVI, VP6, and VFW * Video types: MS-MPEG4 v1 & v2, DivX, 3ivx, H.264, Sorenson H.263, FLV/Sorenson Spark, FSV1, VP6, H263i, VP3, HuffYUV, FFVHuff, MPEG1 & MPEG2 Video, Fraps, Snow, NuppelVideo, Techsmith Screen Capture, DosBox Capture * Audio types: Windows Media Audio v1 & v2, Flash ADPCM, Xiph Vorbis (in Matroska), and MPEG Layer I & II Audio, True Audio, DTS Coherent Acoustics, Nellymoser ASAO * AVI support for: AAC, AC3 Audio, H.264, MPEG4, and VBR MP3 * Subtitle support for SSA/ASS and SRT Hope this helps. Rob MagicalMultimediaTour.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, ryanne hodson wrote: > > i really don't know what the deal is > i can't get any flip clips to be recognized my imovie 09 v.0.8.3 > they're in my iphoto > and imovie refuses to see them. > it brings Xacti Mp4s in fine. > i even tried one of David Lee King's clips. > > i'm updating my flip software from here, so i'll see if that helps > http://www.theflip.com/softwareupdate/ > > > > > > fwiw, i have two macs and a flip HD > > > > I have only inserted the camera into one mac, so if codec is being > > installed, it's only on that one system > > > > but i have edited video on both systems using imovie09 without any > > issues, so seems to work fine > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
[videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
Another for the Kodak Zi6 - got mine on sale at Target. The Mino, Ultra Mino and others were comparatively priced. I had done my research before and was leaning toward either the Creative Vado or Zi6. Couldn't locate the Creative Vado for local evaluation & purchase. Checked out review videos on YouTube and CNet. I just didn't care for the video of the Flips. Still I was going back and forth. It came down to touch. I don't care for the toggle on the Zi6 but it wasn't a deal breaker. The Flips were not comfortable in my hand. I like using SD cards and rechargeable AA batteries. For day to day travel it is more than what I need. For longer events I bring my JVC Hard drive camcorder. Love that HD Macro mode. Silly to shoot in HD at the moment but it does look nice. http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com/2009/06/shaking-out-kodak-zi6-pocket-video.html Gena --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Julian Seery Gude" wrote: > > I'd love your take on the best cheap Mini HD camcorder. > > Here are the contenders as far as I can tell (please add on your fave if you > prefer it over these) > > - Flip Ultra HD > - Flip Mino HD > - Sanyo Xacti VPC-CG10 > - Kodak Zi6 > > I admit I like the pistol grip form factor of the Xacti and prefer both the > Kodak/Xacti because you can use your own memory card. BUT, I've watched > videos' on Vimeo where the Flips having better video quality and low light > performance. What about sound quality? The Flip's seem to do poorly in this > area? > > Thanks > > Julian >
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
Sounds like fun... Actually I'm just over the hat from you.. So about 1/2 hour away depending on where you live.. If you're out in Sidney of course its farther. Have a great and wonderful day. .Hope you had a great Canada day.!! Mark ---Original Message--- From: David Howell Date: 01/07/2009 9:54:23 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today? Wha!? You live here in Victoria? That's awesome! We should go out shooting some time :) David http://www.disposablemedia.ca --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, " Actor Mark" wrote: > > Great shots and only a half hour from my house..:-0 The inner Harbour that > is... > Mark > > > ---Original Message--- > > From: David Howell > Date: 01/07/2009 7:20:28 PM > To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy > today? > > > > > One other thing. For the manual control freak, there are a tons of manual > settings on this camera. You can use it in full automatic mode or make > everything manual. I havent seen a small camera like this that has manual > focus before. I was very happy to find that out :) > > It certainly is impressive and feature rich for the price point. > > David > http://www.disposablemedia.ca > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" wrote: > > > > I added a little contrast to the images as the sun was really blowing out > everything. Not much more than that though. > > > > Thanks > > > > David > > http://www.disposablemedia.ca > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Lim wrote: > > > > > > David, > > > Saw your digital photographs. Your Xacti CG10 seems to add a lot of > > > image sharpening, so it feels like edgy HDR. Did you post-process > > > them? No matter the camera, you've got great sense of composition. :) > > > > > > Kevin Lim > > > Cyberculturalist > > > http://theory.isthereason.com > > > This email is: [ ] bloggable [X] ask first [ ] private > > > email locator: â•"â•â€"â•"â•Â╦â•â€" â•`â•šâ•£â•`â•`â•šâ•â€" > â•šâ•Ââ•©â•Ââ•©â•Ââ• > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:52 PM, David Howell wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm no where near a good photographer however I'm pretty impressed > with the > > > > images the CG10 takes. > > > > > > > > I took these today with it here in town - http://bit.ly/18tp57 > > > > > > > > I had the camera set on widescreen. There's also a setting for 4:3 > ratio at > > > > a higher resolution than what these are. Still...pretty good. > > > > > > > > I shot a bunch of video while I was there as well. We'll see what I > can come > > > > up with from what I got. > > > > > > > > David > > > > http://www.disposablemedia.ca > > > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > I just recently bought the Xacti CG10. It's a nice little camera. I > shot > > > >> > my latest video on it - http://www.disposablemedia.ca No filters > >on that > > > >> > video and the audio is as is. Only thing I did with it was > cross-fades. > > > >> > I'm not a fan of the Flips. Hate the brick style form factor. The > pistol > > > >> > grip on the Xacti is great though. > > > >> > > > >> I agree that the flip cameras are good and cheap. Great > recommendation > > > >> especially for someone buying a camera for an organization. > > > >> > > > >> But the new Xacti CG10 is almost as inexpensive: http://bit ly/r4lu8 > > > >> As everyone says, the pistol grip is really the thing. I also love > how > > > >> the camera turns on immediately on flipping open the screen. Its the > > > >> perfect pocket camera. Takes great photos as well. > > > >> > > > >> Jay > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> http://ryanishungry.com > > > >> http://jaydedman.com > > > >> http://twitter.com/jaydedman > > > >> 917 371 6790 > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
We shoot our internet series Momversation (www.momversation.com) with the Kodak Zi6. We literally mailed the cameras to all our panelists along with a short video we created about the product and how to use it. For the most part it's worked great, however, we have been having problems lately. The most common problem is that the camera shuts off unexpectedly, so you could be taping a whole segment and not realize that the camera is no longer recording. But, overall, it's a great camera with easy plug and play features if you're using a mac. The only thing I wish it had was a rotating viewfinder so you could actually tell if you're in frame, if shooting yourself. Sunny Gault Host/Producer www.sunnygault.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Julian Seery Gude" wrote: > > I'd love your take on the best cheap Mini HD camcorder. > > Here are the contenders as far as I can tell (please add on your fave if you > prefer it over these) > > - Flip Ultra HD > - Flip Mino HD > - Sanyo Xacti VPC-CG10 > - Kodak Zi6 > > I admit I like the pistol grip form factor of the Xacti and prefer both the > Kodak/Xacti because you can use your own memory card. BUT, I've watched > videos' on Vimeo where the Flips having better video quality and low light > performance. What about sound quality? The Flip's seem to do poorly in this > area? > > Thanks > > Julian >
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
On Jul 2, 2009, at 11:57 AM, ryanne hodson wrote: > i really don't know what the deal is > i can't get any flip clips to be recognized my imovie 09 v.0.8.3 > they're in my iphoto > and imovie refuses to see them. > it brings Xacti Mp4s in fine. > i even tried one of David Lee King's clips. interesting usually, i use import in imovie and it works fine with flip hd .MP4's so I just tried importing to iphoto. it imported to iphoto ok, but I don't see the video in imovie under photos last import! have you tried file | import | movies in imovie? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
i really don't know what the deal is i can't get any flip clips to be recognized my imovie 09 v.0.8.3 they're in my iphoto and imovie refuses to see them. it brings Xacti Mp4s in fine. i even tried one of David Lee King's clips. i'm updating my flip software from here, so i'll see if that helps http://www.theflip.com/softwareupdate/ > > fwiw, i have two macs and a flip HD > > I have only inserted the camera into one mac, so if codec is being > installed, it's only on that one system > > but i have edited video on both systems using imovie09 without any > issues, so seems to work fine > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
Kevin, I have had problems editing MPEG4 in iMovie 06-09. I'll give it a go and see if I can bring files in directly as DV files and eliminate Steamclip step. DV editing works much better, even when I had a Sony Cybershot that captured in muxed format. --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Kevin Lim wrote: From: Kevin Lim Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today? To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 2:18 PM John, I've a feeling that iMovie imported it for editing in MPEG4 format instead of DV. I've once written about how iMovie's MPEG4 video editing format was bullshit, because it took very long to import and quality was lacking (e.g. titles looked bad). My short writeup at http://theory. isthereason. com/?p=705 Bottomline: Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's way better to have iMovie import/transcode into DV format to keep everything clean. Kevin Lim Cyberculturalist http://theory. isthereason. com This email is: [ ] bloggable [X] ask first [ ] private email locator: ╔╗╔═╦╗ ║╚╣║║╚╗ ╚═╩═╩═╝ On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:54 PM, John Coffey wrote: > > > One thing I noticed about editing clips from my Xacti E1 into iMovie 06 and > iMovie 09 is that even though they import nicely, and cut and paste clips, > they crap out with titles. So far, the work around is to use the Streamclip > Mpeg app that will change clips into DV files. This makes titling work much > better. > > John Coffey > > --- On Thu, 7/2/09, David King wrote: > > From: David King > Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you > buy today? > To: videoblogging@ yahoogroups. com > Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 11:50 AM > > It's not an HDFlip - it's the Flip Ultra that shoots SD video. Still willing > to send a clip if the model of my Flip doesn't change anything... gotta love > codecs! > > David Lee King > davidleeking. com - blog > davidleeking. com/etc - videoblog > twitter | skype: davidleeking > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:47 AM, ryanne hodson gmail.com>wrote: > >> david >> are you using the HD flip? >> i have the little Mino and imovie 09 just does not see any of those clips >> (sees Xacti clips aplenty) >> and i know i've installed the codec. >> do you have a small clip you can send me? i'd love to see if my imovie >> will >> see your clips. >> -ryanne >> >> -- >> 508-264-0562 >> http://RyanIsHungry .com >> Twitter: http://twitter. com/ryanne >> AIM: VideoRodeo >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM, David King >> wrote: >> >> > >> > >> > I haven't tested in FCP (I have FCE, but not FCP and haven't tested it >> > in >> > FCE either), so not sure there. But with iMovie, no extra transcoding >> steps >> > - just what I've listed. I don't have to use mpgstreamclip or >> > anything... >> > >> > >> > David Lee King >> > davidleeking. com - blog >> > davidleeking. com/etc - videoblog >> > twitter | skype: davidleeking >> > >> > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Jay dedman > > >> > wrote: >> > >> > > > Checking the 3ivx thing - on your Flip, double click the icon to >> > > > open >> > up >> > > the >> > > > folder, open the System folder, open the Install folder ... and >> install >> > > the >> > > > macintosh 3ivx installer. There's one for Windows, too - so it works >> > with >> > > > Windows Movie Maker. That's what I installed to make it work. >> > > >> > > Just so we're clearyou can import your Flip video clips into >> > > iMovie 09 and FCP without any transcoding? >> > > >> > > jay >> > > >> > > -- >> > > http://ryanishungry .com >> > > http://jaydedman. com >> > > http://twitter. com/jaydedman >> > > 917 371 6790 >> > > >> > > >> > > - - -- >> > > >> > > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> - - -- >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
John, I've a feeling that iMovie imported it for editing in MPEG4 format instead of DV. I've once written about how iMovie's MPEG4 video editing format was bullshit, because it took very long to import and quality was lacking (e.g. titles looked bad). My short writeup at http://theory.isthereason.com/?p=705 Bottomline: Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's way better to have iMovie import/transcode into DV format to keep everything clean. Kevin Lim Cyberculturalist http://theory.isthereason.com This email is: [ ] bloggable[X] ask first [ ] private email locator: ╔╗╔═╦╗ ║╚╣║║╚╗ ╚═╩═╩═╝ On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:54 PM, John Coffey wrote: > > > One thing I noticed about editing clips from my Xacti E1 into iMovie 06 and > iMovie 09 is that even though they import nicely, and cut and paste clips, > they crap out with titles. So far, the work around is to use the Streamclip > Mpeg app that will change clips into DV files. This makes titling work much > better. > > John Coffey > > --- On Thu, 7/2/09, David King wrote: > > From: David King > Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you > buy today? > To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 11:50 AM > > It's not an HDFlip - it's the Flip Ultra that shoots SD video. Still willing > to send a clip if the model of my Flip doesn't change anything... gotta love > codecs! > > David Lee King > davidleeking. com - blog > davidleeking. com/etc - videoblog > twitter | skype: davidleeking > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:47 AM, ryanne hodson gmail.com>wrote: > >> david >> are you using the HD flip? >> i have the little Mino and imovie 09 just does not see any of those clips >> (sees Xacti clips aplenty) >> and i know i've installed the codec. >> do you have a small clip you can send me? i'd love to see if my imovie >> will >> see your clips. >> -ryanne >> >> -- >> 508-264-0562 >> http://RyanIsHungry .com >> Twitter: http://twitter. com/ryanne >> AIM: VideoRodeo >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM, David King >> wrote: >> >> > >> > >> > I haven't tested in FCP (I have FCE, but not FCP and haven't tested it >> > in >> > FCE either), so not sure there. But with iMovie, no extra transcoding >> steps >> > - just what I've listed. I don't have to use mpgstreamclip or >> > anything... >> > >> > >> > David Lee King >> > davidleeking. com - blog >> > davidleeking. com/etc - videoblog >> > twitter | skype: davidleeking >> > >> > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Jay dedman > > >> > wrote: >> > >> > > > Checking the 3ivx thing - on your Flip, double click the icon to >> > > > open >> > up >> > > the >> > > > folder, open the System folder, open the Install folder ... and >> install >> > > the >> > > > macintosh 3ivx installer. There's one for Windows, too - so it works >> > with >> > > > Windows Movie Maker. That's what I installed to make it work. >> > > >> > > Just so we're clearyou can import your Flip video clips into >> > > iMovie 09 and FCP without any transcoding? >> > > >> > > jay >> > > >> > > -- >> > > http://ryanishungry .com >> > > http://jaydedman. com >> > > http://twitter. com/jaydedman >> > > 917 371 6790 >> > > >> > > >> > > - - -- >> > > >> > > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> - - -- >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
One thing I noticed about editing clips from my Xacti E1 into iMovie 06 and iMovie 09 is that even though they import nicely, and cut and paste clips, they crap out with titles. So far, the work around is to use the Streamclip Mpeg app that will change clips into DV files. This makes titling work much better. John Coffey --- On Thu, 7/2/09, David King wrote: From: David King Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today? To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 11:50 AM It's not an HDFlip - it's the Flip Ultra that shoots SD video. Still willing to send a clip if the model of my Flip doesn't change anything... gotta love codecs! David Lee King davidleeking. com - blog davidleeking. com/etc - videoblog twitter | skype: davidleeking On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:47 AM, ryanne hodson wrote: > david > are you using the HD flip? > i have the little Mino and imovie 09 just does not see any of those clips > (sees Xacti clips aplenty) > and i know i've installed the codec. > do you have a small clip you can send me? i'd love to see if my imovie will > see your clips. > -ryanne > > -- > 508-264-0562 > http://RyanIsHungry .com > Twitter: http://twitter. com/ryanne > AIM: VideoRodeo > > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM, David King > wrote: > > > > > > > I haven't tested in FCP (I have FCE, but not FCP and haven't tested it in > > FCE either), so not sure there. But with iMovie, no extra transcoding > steps > > - just what I've listed. I don't have to use mpgstreamclip or anything... > > > > > > David Lee King > > davidleeking. com - blog > > davidleeking. com/etc - videoblog > > twitter | skype: davidleeking > > > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Jay dedman > > > wrote: > > > > > > Checking the 3ivx thing - on your Flip, double click the icon to open > > up > > > the > > > > folder, open the System folder, open the Install folder ... and > install > > > the > > > > macintosh 3ivx installer. There's one for Windows, too - so it works > > with > > > > Windows Movie Maker. That's what I installed to make it work. > > > > > > Just so we're clearyou can import your Flip video clips into > > > iMovie 09 and FCP without any transcoding? > > > > > > jay > > > > > > -- > > > http://ryanishungry .com > > > http://jaydedman. com > > > http://twitter. com/jaydedman > > > 917 371 6790 > > > > > > > > > - - -- > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > - - -- > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
On Jul 2, 2009, at 7:03 AM, ryanne hodson wrote: > just to add to this > the flip usually plays nice on the mac if you've installed the codec > that > came on the camera > i believe it's the 3ivx codec > however it doesn't play or import into iMovie 09 from what i've tried > (though it converts great in imovie 06, damnit apple) > though i need to update to the newest imovie, maybe they've added > support > for flip, which would be radical > -ryanne fwiw, i have two macs and a flip HD I have only inserted the camera into one mac, so if codec is being installed, it's only on that one system but i have edited video on both systems using imovie09 without any issues, so seems to work fine [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
It's not an HDFlip - it's the Flip Ultra that shoots SD video. Still willing to send a clip if the model of my Flip doesn't change anything... gotta love codecs! David Lee King davidleeking.com - blog davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog twitter | skype: davidleeking On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:47 AM, ryanne hodson wrote: > david > are you using the HD flip? > i have the little Mino and imovie 09 just does not see any of those clips > (sees Xacti clips aplenty) > and i know i've installed the codec. > do you have a small clip you can send me? i'd love to see if my imovie will > see your clips. > -ryanne > > -- > 508-264-0562 > http://RyanIsHungry.com > Twitter: http://twitter.com/ryanne > AIM: VideoRodeo > > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM, David King > wrote: > > > > > > > I haven't tested in FCP (I have FCE, but not FCP and haven't tested it in > > FCE either), so not sure there. But with iMovie, no extra transcoding > steps > > - just what I've listed. I don't have to use mpgstreamclip or anything... > > > > > > David Lee King > > davidleeking.com - blog > > davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog > > twitter | skype: davidleeking > > > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Jay dedman > > > wrote: > > > > > > Checking the 3ivx thing - on your Flip, double click the icon to open > > up > > > the > > > > folder, open the System folder, open the Install folder ... and > install > > > the > > > > macintosh 3ivx installer. There's one for Windows, too - so it works > > with > > > > Windows Movie Maker. That's what I installed to make it work. > > > > > > Just so we're clearyou can import your Flip video clips into > > > iMovie 09 and FCP without any transcoding? > > > > > > jay > > > > > > -- > > > http://ryanishungry.com > > > http://jaydedman.com > > > http://twitter.com/jaydedman > > > 917 371 6790 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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david are you using the HD flip? i have the little Mino and imovie 09 just does not see any of those clips (sees Xacti clips aplenty) and i know i've installed the codec. do you have a small clip you can send me? i'd love to see if my imovie will see your clips. -ryanne -- 508-264-0562 http://RyanIsHungry.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/ryanne AIM: VideoRodeo On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM, David King wrote: > > > I haven't tested in FCP (I have FCE, but not FCP and haven't tested it in > FCE either), so not sure there. But with iMovie, no extra transcoding steps > - just what I've listed. I don't have to use mpgstreamclip or anything... > > > David Lee King > davidleeking.com - blog > davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog > twitter | skype: davidleeking > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Jay dedman > > > wrote: > > > > Checking the 3ivx thing - on your Flip, double click the icon to open > up > > the > > > folder, open the System folder, open the Install folder ... and install > > the > > > macintosh 3ivx installer. There's one for Windows, too - so it works > with > > > Windows Movie Maker. That's what I installed to make it work. > > > > Just so we're clearyou can import your Flip video clips into > > iMovie 09 and FCP without any transcoding? > > > > jay > > > > -- > > http://ryanishungry.com > > http://jaydedman.com > > http://twitter.com/jaydedman > > 917 371 6790 > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
I haven't tested in FCP (I have FCE, but not FCP and haven't tested it in FCE either), so not sure there. But with iMovie, no extra transcoding steps - just what I've listed. I don't have to use mpgstreamclip or anything... David Lee King davidleeking.com - blog davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog twitter | skype: davidleeking On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Jay dedman wrote: > > Checking the 3ivx thing - on your Flip, double click the icon to open up > the > > folder, open the System folder, open the Install folder ... and install > the > > macintosh 3ivx installer. There's one for Windows, too - so it works with > > Windows Movie Maker. That's what I installed to make it work. > > Just so we're clearyou can import your Flip video clips into > iMovie 09 and FCP without any transcoding? > > jay > > -- > http://ryanishungry.com > http://jaydedman.com > http://twitter.com/jaydedman > 917 371 6790 > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> Checking the 3ivx thing - on your Flip, double click the icon to open up the > folder, open the System folder, open the Install folder ... and install the > macintosh 3ivx installer. There's one for Windows, too - so it works with > Windows Movie Maker. That's what I installed to make it work. Just so we're clearyou can import your Flip video clips into iMovie 09 and FCP without any transcoding? jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
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It's working for me! I think with the added codec, it works fine. At least, I was just able to take a flip video, dump it into iphoto, then open imovie 09 (yes, the new one), in event library click the iPhoto videos, and drag the video into a new project. So somewhere between the Flip codec and iMovie 09, Flip is working easier than it used to. Sweet. David Lee King davidleeking.com - blog davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog twitter | skype: davidleeking On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:03 AM, ryanne hodson wrote: > just to add to this > the flip usually plays nice on the mac if you've installed the codec that > came on the camera > i believe it's the 3ivx codec > however it doesn't play or import into iMovie 09 from what i've tried > (though it converts great in imovie 06, damnit apple) > though i need to update to the newest imovie, maybe they've added support > for flip, which would be radical > -ryanne > > -- > 508-264-0562 > http://RyanIsHungry.com > Twitter: http://twitter.com/ryanne > AIM: VideoRodeo > > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Jay dedman wrote: > > > > > > > > Hmm... my Flip works fine on my Mac with no conversions. Wonder what > the > > > difference is? > > > I have very sketchy memories of this ... but I think there's some type > of > > > codec that comes on the Flip that you have to install for it to work on > a > > > Mac ... but again, not remembering... just know that on both my Macs, > > > there's absolutely no conversions needed. And that's with different > Flip > > > cameras, too. > > > > So you can import your Flip videos into iMovie 09? and FCP? without > > conversion? > > > > To really get to the bottom of it, open one of your Flip videos in > > Quicktimethen click Apple-i. > > Id love to know the specific of the codec it uses. Then we can compare. > > > > Jay (adding more emails to this list on the topic of codecs that > > confuse us because thick companies don;t want to play together) > > > > -- > > http://ryanishungry.com > > http://jaydedman.com > > http://twitter.com/jaydedman > > 917 371 6790 > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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just to add to this the flip usually plays nice on the mac if you've installed the codec that came on the camera i believe it's the 3ivx codec however it doesn't play or import into iMovie 09 from what i've tried (though it converts great in imovie 06, damnit apple) though i need to update to the newest imovie, maybe they've added support for flip, which would be radical -ryanne -- 508-264-0562 http://RyanIsHungry.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/ryanne AIM: VideoRodeo On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Jay dedman wrote: > > > > Hmm... my Flip works fine on my Mac with no conversions. Wonder what the > > difference is? > > I have very sketchy memories of this ... but I think there's some type of > > codec that comes on the Flip that you have to install for it to work on a > > Mac ... but again, not remembering... just know that on both my Macs, > > there's absolutely no conversions needed. And that's with different Flip > > cameras, too. > > So you can import your Flip videos into iMovie 09? and FCP? without > conversion? > > To really get to the bottom of it, open one of your Flip videos in > Quicktimethen click Apple-i. > Id love to know the specific of the codec it uses. Then we can compare. > > Jay (adding more emails to this list on the topic of codecs that > confuse us because thick companies don;t want to play together) > > -- > http://ryanishungry.com > http://jaydedman.com > http://twitter.com/jaydedman > 917 371 6790 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Cool - I've never hit apple i before! Here's what it says: Format: XviD (3ivx), 640X480, millions microsoft ADPCM, Mono, 44.100 kHz FPS: 30 etc... (pretty sure that's the relevant stuff). Checking the 3ivx thing - on your Flip, double click the icon to open up the folder, open the System folder, open the Install folder ... and install the macintosh 3ivx installer. There's one for Windows, too - so it works with Windows Movie Maker. That's what I installed to make it work. David Lee King davidleeking.com - blog davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog twitter | skype: davidleeking On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Jay dedman wrote: > > Hmm... my Flip works fine on my Mac with no conversions. Wonder what the > > difference is? > > I have very sketchy memories of this ... but I think there's some type of > > codec that comes on the Flip that you have to install for it to work on a > > Mac ... but again, not remembering... just know that on both my Macs, > > there's absolutely no conversions needed. And that's with different Flip > > cameras, too. > > So you can import your Flip videos into iMovie 09? and FCP? without > conversion? > > To really get to the bottom of it, open one of your Flip videos in > Quicktimethen click Apple-i. > Id love to know the specific of the codec it uses. Then we can compare. > > Jay (adding more emails to this list on the topic of codecs that > confuse us because thick companies don;t want to play together) > > > -- > http://ryanishungry.com > http://jaydedman.com > http://twitter.com/jaydedman > 917 371 6790 > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> Hmm... my Flip works fine on my Mac with no conversions. Wonder what the > difference is? > I have very sketchy memories of this ... but I think there's some type of > codec that comes on the Flip that you have to install for it to work on a > Mac ... but again, not remembering... just know that on both my Macs, > there's absolutely no conversions needed. And that's with different Flip > cameras, too. So you can import your Flip videos into iMovie 09? and FCP? without conversion? To really get to the bottom of it, open one of your Flip videos in Quicktimethen click Apple-i. Id love to know the specific of the codec it uses. Then we can compare. Jay (adding more emails to this list on the topic of codecs that confuse us because thick companies don;t want to play together) -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
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Hmm... my Flip works fine on my Mac with no conversions. Wonder what the difference is? I have very sketchy memories of this ... but I think there's some type of codec that comes on the Flip that you have to install for it to work on a Mac ... but again, not remembering... just know that on both my Macs, there's absolutely no conversions needed. And that's with different Flip cameras, too. Puzzling! David Lee King davidleeking.com - blog davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog twitter | skype: davidleeking On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Jay dedman wrote: > > I'm intrigued by the price/performance of Xacti CG10. Several wins for > > it, including video directly importable into iMovie without any > > conversion (true?). > > I know the Flip video needs conversaion before bringing into iMovie. > Ryanne made a screencast here: > http://freevlog.org/content/imovie-updating-and-importing > > Cant be sure of the new Xacti till i get it, but the current round of > Xactis import directly into iMovie and FCP. > > Jay > > -- > http://ryanishungry.com > http://jaydedman.com > http://twitter.com/jaydedman > 917 371 6790 > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Wha!? You live here in Victoria? That's awesome! We should go out shooting some time :) David http://www.disposablemedia.ca --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, " Actor Mark" wrote: > > Great shots and only a half hour from my house..:-0 The inner Harbour that > is... > Mark > > > ---Original Message--- > > From: David Howell > Date: 01/07/2009 7:20:28 PM > To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy > today? > > > > > One other thing. For the manual control freak, there are a tons of manual > settings on this camera. You can use it in full automatic mode or make > everything manual. I havent seen a small camera like this that has manual > focus before. I was very happy to find that out :) > > It certainly is impressive and feature rich for the price point. > > David > http://www.disposablemedia.ca > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" wrote: > > > > I added a little contrast to the images as the sun was really blowing out > everything. Not much more than that though. > > > > Thanks > > > > David > > http://www.disposablemedia.ca > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Lim wrote: > > > > > > David, > > > Saw your digital photographs. Your Xacti CG10 seems to add a lot of > > > image sharpening, so it feels like edgy HDR. Did you post-process > > > them? No matter the camera, you've got great sense of composition. :) > > > > > > Kevin Lim > > > Cyberculturalist > > > http://theory.isthereason.com > > > This email is: [ ] bloggable [X] ask first [ ] private > > > email locator: ââ¢"ââ¢â"ââ¢"ââ¢Âââ¢Â¦Ã¢â¢â" > > > ââ¢`ââ¢Å¡Ã¢â¢Â£Ã¢â¢`ââ¢`ââ¢Å¡Ã¢â¢â" > ââ¢Å¡Ã¢â¢Âââ¢Â©Ã¢â¢Âââ¢Â©Ã¢â¢Âââ¢Â > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:52 PM, David Howell wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm no where near a good photographer however I'm pretty impressed > with the > > > > images the CG10 takes. > > > > > > > > I took these today with it here in town - http://bit.ly/18tp57 > > > > > > > > I had the camera set on widescreen. There's also a setting for 4:3 > ratio at > > > > a higher resolution than what these are. Still...pretty good. > > > > > > > > I shot a bunch of video while I was there as well. We'll see what I > can come > > > > up with from what I got. > > > > > > > > David > > > > http://www.disposablemedia.ca > > > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > I just recently bought the Xacti CG10. It's a nice little camera. I > shot > > > >> > my latest video on it - http://www.disposablemedia.ca No filters > >on that > > > >> > video and the audio is as is. Only thing I did with it was > cross-fades. > > > >> > I'm not a fan of the Flips. Hate the brick style form factor. The > pistol > > > >> > grip on the Xacti is great though. > > > >> > > > >> I agree that the flip cameras are good and cheap. Great > recommendation > > > >> especially for someone buying a camera for an organization. > > > >> > > > >> But the new Xacti CG10 is almost as inexpensive: http://bit.ly/r4lu8 > > > >> As everyone says, the pistol grip is really the thing. I also love > how > > > >> the camera turns on immediately on flipping open the screen. Its the > > > >> perfect pocket camera. Takes great photos as well. > > > >> > > > >> Jay > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> http://ryanishungry.com > > > >> http://jaydedman.com > > > >> http://twitter.com/jaydedman > > > >> 917 371 6790 > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
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Great shots and only a half hour from my house..:-0 The inner Harbour that is... Mark ---Original Message--- From: David Howell Date: 01/07/2009 7:20:28 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today? One other thing. For the manual control freak, there are a tons of manual settings on this camera. You can use it in full automatic mode or make everything manual. I havent seen a small camera like this that has manual focus before. I was very happy to find that out :) It certainly is impressive and feature rich for the price point. David http://www.disposablemedia.ca --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" wrote: > > I added a little contrast to the images as the sun was really blowing out everything. Not much more than that though. > > Thanks > > David > http://www.disposablemedia.ca > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Lim wrote: > > > > David, > > Saw your digital photographs. Your Xacti CG10 seems to add a lot of > > image sharpening, so it feels like edgy HDR. Did you post-process > > them? No matter the camera, you've got great sense of composition. :) > > > > Kevin Lim > > Cyberculturalist > > http://theory.isthereason.com > > This email is: [ ] bloggable [X] ask first [ ] private > > email locator: â•"â•—â•"â•â•¦â•— â•`â•šâ•£â•`â•`â•šâ•— â•šâ•â•©â•â•©â•â• > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:52 PM, David Howell wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm no where near a good photographer however I'm pretty impressed with the > > > images the CG10 takes. > > > > > > I took these today with it here in town - http://bit.ly/18tp57 > > > > > > I had the camera set on widescreen. There's also a setting for 4:3 ratio at > > > a higher resolution than what these are. Still...pretty good. > > > > > > I shot a bunch of video while I was there as well. We'll see what I can come > > > up with from what I got. > > > > > > David > > > http://www.disposablemedia.ca > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman wrote: > > >> > > >> > I just recently bought the Xacti CG10. It's a nice little camera. I shot > > >> > my latest video on it - http://www.disposablemedia.ca No filters >on that > > >> > video and the audio is as is. Only thing I did with it was cross-fades. > > >> > I'm not a fan of the Flips. Hate the brick style form factor. The pistol > > >> > grip on the Xacti is great though. > > >> > > >> I agree that the flip cameras are good and cheap. Great recommendation > > >> especially for someone buying a camera for an organization. > > >> > > >> But the new Xacti CG10 is almost as inexpensive: http://bit.ly/r4lu8 > > >> As everyone says, the pistol grip is really the thing. I also love how > > >> the camera turns on immediately on flipping open the screen. Its the > > >> perfect pocket camera. Takes great photos as well. > > >> > > >> Jay > > >> > > >> -- > > >> http://ryanishungry.com > > >> http://jaydedman.com > > >> http://twitter.com/jaydedman > > >> 917 371 6790 > > >> > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
One other thing. For the manual control freak, there are a tons of manual settings on this camera. You can use it in full automatic mode or make everything manual. I havent seen a small camera like this that has manual focus before. I was very happy to find that out :) It certainly is impressive and feature rich for the price point. David http://www.disposablemedia.ca --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Howell" wrote: > > I added a little contrast to the images as the sun was really blowing out > everything. Not much more than that though. > > Thanks > > David > http://www.disposablemedia.ca > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Lim wrote: > > > > David, > >Saw your digital photographs. Your Xacti CG10 seems to add a lot of > > image sharpening, so it feels like edgy HDR. Did you post-process > > them? No matter the camera, you've got great sense of composition. :) > > > > Kevin Lim > > Cyberculturalist > > http://theory.isthereason.com > > This email is: [ ] bloggable[X] ask first [ ] private > > email locator: â"ââ"ââ¦â â`ââ£â`â`ââ > > âââ©ââ©ââ > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:52 PM, David Howell wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm no where near a good photographer however I'm pretty impressed with > > > the > > > images the CG10 takes. > > > > > > I took these today with it here in town - http://bit.ly/18tp57 > > > > > > I had the camera set on widescreen. There's also a setting for 4:3 ratio > > > at > > > a higher resolution than what these are. Still...pretty good. > > > > > > I shot a bunch of video while I was there as well. We'll see what I can > > > come > > > up with from what I got. > > > > > > David > > > http://www.disposablemedia.ca > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman wrote: > > >> > > >> > I just recently bought the Xacti CG10. It's a nice little camera. I > > >> > shot > > >> > my latest video on it - http://www.disposablemedia.ca No filters >on > > >> > that > > >> > video and the audio is as is. Only thing I did with it was cross-fades. > > >> > I'm not a fan of the Flips. Hate the brick style form factor. The > > >> > pistol > > >> > grip on the Xacti is great though. > > >> > > >> I agree that the flip cameras are good and cheap. Great recommendation > > >> especially for someone buying a camera for an organization. > > >> > > >> But the new Xacti CG10 is almost as inexpensive: http://bit.ly/r4lu8 > > >> As everyone says, the pistol grip is really the thing. I also love how > > >> the camera turns on immediately on flipping open the screen. Its the > > >> perfect pocket camera. Takes great photos as well. > > >> > > >> Jay > > >> > > >> -- > > >> http://ryanishungry.com > > >> http://jaydedman.com > > >> http://twitter.com/jaydedman > > >> 917 371 6790 > > >> > > > > > > > > >
[videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
I added a little contrast to the images as the sun was really blowing out everything. Not much more than that though. Thanks David http://www.disposablemedia.ca --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Lim wrote: > > David, >Saw your digital photographs. Your Xacti CG10 seems to add a lot of > image sharpening, so it feels like edgy HDR. Did you post-process > them? No matter the camera, you've got great sense of composition. :) > > Kevin Lim > Cyberculturalist > http://theory.isthereason.com > This email is: [ ] bloggable[X] ask first [ ] private > email locator: â"ââ"ââ¦â â`ââ£â`â`ââ âââ©ââ©ââ > > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:52 PM, David Howell wrote: > > > > > > I'm no where near a good photographer however I'm pretty impressed with the > > images the CG10 takes. > > > > I took these today with it here in town - http://bit.ly/18tp57 > > > > I had the camera set on widescreen. There's also a setting for 4:3 ratio at > > a higher resolution than what these are. Still...pretty good. > > > > I shot a bunch of video while I was there as well. We'll see what I can come > > up with from what I got. > > > > David > > http://www.disposablemedia.ca > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman wrote: > >> > >> > I just recently bought the Xacti CG10. It's a nice little camera. I shot > >> > my latest video on it - http://www.disposablemedia.ca No filters >on that > >> > video and the audio is as is. Only thing I did with it was cross-fades. > >> > I'm not a fan of the Flips. Hate the brick style form factor. The pistol > >> > grip on the Xacti is great though. > >> > >> I agree that the flip cameras are good and cheap. Great recommendation > >> especially for someone buying a camera for an organization. > >> > >> But the new Xacti CG10 is almost as inexpensive: http://bit.ly/r4lu8 > >> As everyone says, the pistol grip is really the thing. I also love how > >> the camera turns on immediately on flipping open the screen. Its the > >> perfect pocket camera. Takes great photos as well. > >> > >> Jay > >> > >> -- > >> http://ryanishungry.com > >> http://jaydedman.com > >> http://twitter.com/jaydedman > >> 917 371 6790 > >> > > > > >
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
David, Saw your digital photographs. Your Xacti CG10 seems to add a lot of image sharpening, so it feels like edgy HDR. Did you post-process them? No matter the camera, you've got great sense of composition. :) Kevin Lim Cyberculturalist http://theory.isthereason.com This email is: [ ] bloggable[X] ask first [ ] private email locator: ╔╗╔═╦╗ ║╚╣║║╚╗ ╚═╩═╩═╝ On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:52 PM, David Howell wrote: > > > I'm no where near a good photographer however I'm pretty impressed with the > images the CG10 takes. > > I took these today with it here in town - http://bit.ly/18tp57 > > I had the camera set on widescreen. There's also a setting for 4:3 ratio at > a higher resolution than what these are. Still...pretty good. > > I shot a bunch of video while I was there as well. We'll see what I can come > up with from what I got. > > David > http://www.disposablemedia.ca > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman wrote: >> >> > I just recently bought the Xacti CG10. It's a nice little camera. I shot >> > my latest video on it - http://www.disposablemedia.ca No filters >on that >> > video and the audio is as is. Only thing I did with it was cross-fades. >> > I'm not a fan of the Flips. Hate the brick style form factor. The pistol >> > grip on the Xacti is great though. >> >> I agree that the flip cameras are good and cheap. Great recommendation >> especially for someone buying a camera for an organization. >> >> But the new Xacti CG10 is almost as inexpensive: http://bit.ly/r4lu8 >> As everyone says, the pistol grip is really the thing. I also love how >> the camera turns on immediately on flipping open the screen. Its the >> perfect pocket camera. Takes great photos as well. >> >> Jay >> >> -- >> http://ryanishungry.com >> http://jaydedman.com >> http://twitter.com/jaydedman >> 917 371 6790 >> > >
[videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
I'm no where near a good photographer however I'm pretty impressed with the images the CG10 takes. I took these today with it here in town - http://bit.ly/18tp57 I had the camera set on widescreen. There's also a setting for 4:3 ratio at a higher resolution than what these are. Still...pretty good. I shot a bunch of video while I was there as well. We'll see what I can come up with from what I got. David http://www.disposablemedia.ca --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman wrote: > > > I just recently bought the Xacti CG10. It's a nice little camera. I shot my > > latest video on it - http://www.disposablemedia.ca No filters >on that > > video and the audio is as is. Only thing I did with it was cross-fades. > > I'm not a fan of the Flips. Hate the brick style form factor. The pistol > > grip on the Xacti is great though. > > I agree that the flip cameras are good and cheap. Great recommendation > especially for someone buying a camera for an organization. > > But the new Xacti CG10 is almost as inexpensive: http://bit.ly/r4lu8 > As everyone says, the pistol grip is really the thing. I also love how > the camera turns on immediately on flipping open the screen. Its the > perfect pocket camera. Takes great photos as well. > > Jay > > -- > http://ryanishungry.com > http://jaydedman.com > http://twitter.com/jaydedman > 917 371 6790 >
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
Jay, thanks for the video example of the Xacti CG10.
Video footage looks very nice. I handled one in Radio Slack today and
it felt great. Very impressed that this is a sub $200USD camcorder. I
figure it would be pretty functional mobile rig when paired up with an
EyeFi SDHC Wireless Card for wireless uploading at home and at
hotspots. For that matter, with tethering available to many people now
on Nokia phones and recently the iPhone it could be a nice mobile
combo for short HD videos.
Julian
On Jul 1, 2009, at 9:15 PM, Jay dedman wrote:
>
>
> > I just recently bought the Xacti CG10. It's a nice little camera.
> I shot my latest video on it - http://www.disposablemedia.ca No
> filters >on that video and the audio is as is. Only thing I did with
> it was cross-fades.
> > I'm not a fan of the Flips. Hate the brick style form factor. The
> pistol grip on the Xacti is great though.
>
> I agree that the flip cameras are good and cheap. Great recommendation
> especially for someone buying a camera for an organization.
>
> But the new Xacti CG10 is almost as inexpensive: http://bit.ly/r4lu8
> As everyone says, the pistol grip is really the thing. I also love how
> the camera turns on immediately on flipping open the screen. Its the
> perfect pocket camera. Takes great photos as well.
>
> Jay
>
> --
> http://ryanishungry.com
> http://jaydedman.com
> http://twitter.com/jaydedman
> 917 371 6790
>
>
---
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editor @ LOCAL Na8ion ~ www.LOCALNa8ion.com
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
> I'm intrigued by the price/performance of Xacti CG10. Several wins for > it, including video directly importable into iMovie without any > conversion (true?). I know the Flip video needs conversaion before bringing into iMovie. Ryanne made a screencast here: http://freevlog.org/content/imovie-updating-and-importing Cant be sure of the new Xacti till i get it, but the current round of Xactis import directly into iMovie and FCP. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
I'm intrigued by the price/performance of Xacti CG10. Several wins for it, including video directly importable into iMovie without any conversion (true?). One distinguishing feature between low-cost (Flips) vs. mid-ranged HD cameras is the image stabilization (IS) feature. Xacti CG10 cheats by using digital stabilization (is it still decent?). An optical IS feature would be a big deal if you enjoy shooting casual video handheld. Kevin Lim Cyberculturalist http://theory.isthereason.com This email is: [ ] bloggable[X] ask first [ ] private email locator: ╔╗╔═╦╗ ║╚╣║║╚╗ ╚═╩═╩═╝ On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Jay dedman wrote: > > >> I just recently bought the Xacti CG10. It's a nice little camera. I shot >> my latest video on it - http://www.disposablemedia.ca No filters >on that >> video and the audio is as is. Only thing I did with it was cross-fades. >> I'm not a fan of the Flips. Hate the brick style form factor. The pistol >> grip on the Xacti is great though. > > I agree that the flip cameras are good and cheap. Great recommendation > especially for someone buying a camera for an organization. > > But the new Xacti CG10 is almost as inexpensive: http://bit.ly/r4lu8 > As everyone says, the pistol grip is really the thing. I also love how > the camera turns on immediately on flipping open the screen. Its the > perfect pocket camera. Takes great photos as well. > > Jay > > -- > http://ryanishungry.com > http://jaydedman.com > http://twitter.com/jaydedman > 917 371 6790 > >
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
> I just recently bought the Xacti CG10. It's a nice little camera. I shot my > latest video on it - http://www.disposablemedia.ca No filters >on that video > and the audio is as is. Only thing I did with it was cross-fades. > I'm not a fan of the Flips. Hate the brick style form factor. The pistol grip > on the Xacti is great though. I agree that the flip cameras are good and cheap. Great recommendation especially for someone buying a camera for an organization. But the new Xacti CG10 is almost as inexpensive: http://bit.ly/r4lu8 As everyone says, the pistol grip is really the thing. I also love how the camera turns on immediately on flipping open the screen. Its the perfect pocket camera. Takes great photos as well. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
[videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
I just recently bought the Xacti CG10. It's a nice little camera. I shot my latest video on it - http://www.disposablemedia.ca No filters on that video and the audio is as is. Only thing I did with it was cross-fades. I'm not a fan of the Flips. Hate the brick style form factor. The pistol grip on the Xacti is great though. If you're going to edit the footage you shoot in FCP or FCE from the Xacti, you have to convert the files to Apple Intermediate Codec first. I think iMovie can edit the files without doing anything to them. David http://www.disposablemedia.ca --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Julian Seery Gude" wrote: > > I'd love your take on the best cheap Mini HD camcorder. > > Here are the contenders as far as I can tell (please add on your fave if you > prefer it over these) > > - Flip Ultra HD > - Flip Mino HD > - Sanyo Xacti VPC-CG10 > - Kodak Zi6 > > I admit I like the pistol grip form factor of the Xacti and prefer both the > Kodak/Xacti because you can use your own memory card. BUT, I've watched > videos' on Vimeo where the Flips having better video quality and low light > performance. What about sound quality? The Flip's seem to do poorly in this > area? > > Thanks > > Julian >
[videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
I figured that clip would show how it does in a poorly lit situation. That
place (obviously) has just a bit of red lighting which my normally awesome
Cannon just hates.
Only thing I dislike about the flips is it's form factor - but that's just my
preference. I find the Xacti's more comfortable.
iPhone at 720 would be fantastic!
Jarod
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Julian Seery Gude wrote:
>
> Hey Jarod,
>
> Great example - I think the video looks and sounds pretty good for a
> live performance. But screw video, let's talk about your bass and your
> band! I plugged in my headphones, clicked on the HD button on YouTube
> and really enjoyed you guys! Great tune. Must go practice guitar now.
>
> Julian
>
>
> On Jul 1, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Jarod Dixon wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Friend has a Flip Ultra HD, and it does a LOT better in low light
> > than my Cannon HF-100.
> >
> > As for sound it seems ok, but he mainly puts it in situations where
> > the volume is a bit too much:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChBKTVYB0kY
> >
> > (achem, me on bass)
> >
> > Jarod the seldom poster.
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Julian Seery Gude"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I'd love your take on the best cheap Mini HD camcorder.
> > >
> > > Here are the contenders as far as I can tell (please add on your
> > fave if you prefer it over these)
> > >
> > > - Flip Ultra HD
> > > - Flip Mino HD
> > > - Sanyo Xacti VPC-CG10
> > > - Kodak Zi6
> > >
> > > I admit I like the pistol grip form factor of the Xacti and prefer
> > both the Kodak/Xacti because you can use your own memory card. BUT,
> > I've watched videos' on Vimeo where the Flips having better video
> > quality and low light performance. What about sound quality? The
> > Flip's seem to do poorly in this area?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Julian
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> ---
> Julian Seery Gude
> jul...@... {561} 584-9088 {skype} exceler8
> chief exceler8or @ exceler8 Corporation ~ www.exceler8.com
> editor @ LOCAL Na8ion ~ www.LOCALNa8ion.com
> Learn more about me: http://www.google.com/profiles/JulianSeeryGude
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
Hey Jarod,
Great example - I think the video looks and sounds pretty good for a
live performance. But screw video, let's talk about your bass and your
band! I plugged in my headphones, clicked on the HD button on YouTube
and really enjoyed you guys! Great tune. Must go practice guitar now.
Julian
On Jul 1, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Jarod Dixon wrote:
>
>
> Friend has a Flip Ultra HD, and it does a LOT better in low light
> than my Cannon HF-100.
>
> As for sound it seems ok, but he mainly puts it in situations where
> the volume is a bit too much:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChBKTVYB0kY
>
> (achem, me on bass)
>
> Jarod the seldom poster.
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Julian Seery Gude"
> wrote:
> >
> > I'd love your take on the best cheap Mini HD camcorder.
> >
> > Here are the contenders as far as I can tell (please add on your
> fave if you prefer it over these)
> >
> > - Flip Ultra HD
> > - Flip Mino HD
> > - Sanyo Xacti VPC-CG10
> > - Kodak Zi6
> >
> > I admit I like the pistol grip form factor of the Xacti and prefer
> both the Kodak/Xacti because you can use your own memory card. BUT,
> I've watched videos' on Vimeo where the Flips having better video
> quality and low light performance. What about sound quality? The
> Flip's seem to do poorly in this area?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Julian
> >
>
>
>
---
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jul...@exceler8.com {561} 584-9088 {skype} exceler8
chief exceler8or @ exceler8 Corporation ~ www.exceler8.com
editor @ LOCAL Na8ion ~ www.LOCALNa8ion.com
Learn more about me: http://www.google.com/profiles/JulianSeeryGude
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
Mark my words... iPhoneHD. iPhone 3GS video chipset already handles 720p, so it's a matter of time :P Kevin Lim Cyberculturalist http://theory.isthereason.com This email is: [ ] bloggable[X] ask first [ ] private email locator: ╔╗╔═╦╗ ║╚╣║║╚╗ ╚═╩═╩═╝ On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Julian Seery Gude wrote: > > > LOL. Bill - you know that's exactly what I've been tossing and turning > about! I know I need/want the 30fps mobile video of the iPhone 3GS but I > love the idea of HD from watching all that pretty footage on Vimeo. I'd like > to do both but the misses would have my head! :-) > > Julian > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Julian Seery Gude" > wrote: >> >> I'd love your take on the best cheap Mini HD camcorder. >> >> Here are the contenders as far as I can tell (please add on your fave if >> you prefer it over these) >> >> - Flip Ultra HD >> - Flip Mino HD >> - Sanyo Xacti VPC-CG10 >> - Kodak Zi6 >> >> I admit I like the pistol grip form factor of the Xacti and prefer both >> the Kodak/Xacti because you can use your own memory card. BUT, I've watched >> videos' on Vimeo where the Flips having better video quality and low light >> performance. What about sound quality? The Flip's seem to do poorly in this >> area? >> >> Thanks >> >> Julian >> > >
[videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
Friend has a Flip Ultra HD, and it does a LOT better in low light than my Cannon HF-100. As for sound it seems ok, but he mainly puts it in situations where the volume is a bit too much: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChBKTVYB0kY (achem, me on bass) Jarod the seldom poster. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Julian Seery Gude" wrote: > > I'd love your take on the best cheap Mini HD camcorder. > > Here are the contenders as far as I can tell (please add on your fave if you > prefer it over these) > > - Flip Ultra HD > - Flip Mino HD > - Sanyo Xacti VPC-CG10 > - Kodak Zi6 > > I admit I like the pistol grip form factor of the Xacti and prefer both the > Kodak/Xacti because you can use your own memory card. BUT, I've watched > videos' on Vimeo where the Flips having better video quality and low light > performance. What about sound quality? The Flip's seem to do poorly in this > area? > > Thanks > > Julian >
[videoblogging] Re: Which cheapo Mini HD Camcorder would you buy today?
LOL. Bill - you know that's exactly what I've been tossing and turning about! I know I need/want the 30fps mobile video of the iPhone 3GS but I love the idea of HD from watching all that pretty footage on Vimeo. I'd like to do both but the misses would have my head! :-) Julian --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Julian Seery Gude" wrote: > > I'd love your take on the best cheap Mini HD camcorder. > > Here are the contenders as far as I can tell (please add on your fave if you > prefer it over these) > > - Flip Ultra HD > - Flip Mino HD > - Sanyo Xacti VPC-CG10 > - Kodak Zi6 > > I admit I like the pistol grip form factor of the Xacti and prefer both the > Kodak/Xacti because you can use your own memory card. BUT, I've watched > videos' on Vimeo where the Flips having better video quality and low light > performance. What about sound quality? The Flip's seem to do poorly in this > area? > > Thanks > > Julian >
