[videoblogging] Re: Zi8 with ECM-DS70P
So...just exactly what kind of performance are you expecting out of a $150 camera? I hope nothing professional. It's a low caliber camera. Pretty much you'll get something between crap and amateur results. Nothing professional. Just no hissing. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, taoofdavid65 taoofda...@... wrote: So...just exactly what kind of performance are you expecting out of a $150 camera? I hope nothing professional. It's a low caliber camera. Pretty much you'll get something between crap and amateur results. David http://www.youtube.com/davidhowellca --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, MyFirstMemoryDotOrg myfirstmemory.org@ wrote: In the second set there was something muting the sound or there was some kind of distance. Was the mic held at the same distance and position each time? Yes, pretty much. The 2nd room was much bigger, but the camera should perform, no? This is just basic test videos in a quiet environment. If it is not performing in these, what can I expect out in the field? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, compumavengal compumavengal@ wrote: The first set with mic off I heard a high pitched sound in the background but the audio was clear. In the second set there was something muting the sound or there was some kind of distance. Was the mic held at the same distance and position each time? Just my 2 cents, Gena http://createvideonotebook.blogspot.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, MyFirstMemoryDotOrg myfirstmemory.org@ wrote: I recently bought this combination, and the results are disappointing. Can anyone give their opinion on the results? 1st test: Just the camera: http://vimeo.com/11574151 With the mic: http://vimeo.com/11574105 I suppose the buzzing came from the two laptops operating very close, so we did a second test. 2nd test: Just the camera: http://vimeo.com/11574258 With the mic: http://vimeo.com/11574273 Why is the sound quality worse with the mic? What am I doing wrong?
[videoblogging] Re: Zi8 with ECM-DS70P
is there a gain button on the camera? If you mean the little mic-icon menu, then yes, I think so. I tried pushing the levels all the way on the + side, abd there was louder sound, but also louder hissing... http://www.camcorderinfo.com/images/upload/Image/Kodak/Kodak_Zi8/Product_Shots/Kodak_Zi8_Menu1.jpg does the cord fit snugly in the camera? The ECM-DS70P doesn't have a cord, and it does fit snugly. http://base1.googlehosted.com/base_media?q=http://digitalcontent.cnetchannel.com/af/71/af717fcb-2a0c-492b-b188-1eb259f2fb0b.jpgsize=20dhm=396d2c6bhl=en --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, RANDY MANN themaddm...@... wrote: is there a gain button on the camera? does the cord fit snugly in the camera? On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 7:52 AM, MyFirstMemoryDotOrg myfirstmemory.org@ gmail.com wrote: I recently bought this combination, and the results are disappointing. Can anyone give their opinion on the results? 1st test: Just the camera: http://vimeo.com/11574151 With the mic: http://vimeo.com/11574105 I suppose the buzzing came from the two laptops operating very close, so we did a second test. 2nd test: Just the camera: http://vimeo.com/11574258 With the mic: http://vimeo.com/11574273 Why is the sound quality worse with the mic? What am I doing wrong? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Zi8 with ECM-DS70P
I dont know what you're using to edit your videos with however in Final Cut Pro, you can play with the audio using the Parametric Equalizer audio filter. That may help with the hissing. David http://www.youtube.com/davidhowellca --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, MyFirstMemoryDotOrg myfirstmemory@... wrote: So...just exactly what kind of performance are you expecting out of a $150 camera? I hope nothing professional. It's a low caliber camera. Pretty much you'll get something between crap and amateur results. Nothing professional. Just no hissing. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, taoofdavid65 taoofdavid@ wrote: So...just exactly what kind of performance are you expecting out of a $150 camera? I hope nothing professional. It's a low caliber camera. Pretty much you'll get something between crap and amateur results. David http://www.youtube.com/davidhowellca --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, MyFirstMemoryDotOrg myfirstmemory.org@ wrote: In the second set there was something muting the sound or there was some kind of distance. Was the mic held at the same distance and position each time? Yes, pretty much. The 2nd room was much bigger, but the camera should perform, no? This is just basic test videos in a quiet environment. If it is not performing in these, what can I expect out in the field? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, compumavengal compumavengal@ wrote: The first set with mic off I heard a high pitched sound in the background but the audio was clear. In the second set there was something muting the sound or there was some kind of distance. Was the mic held at the same distance and position each time? Just my 2 cents, Gena http://createvideonotebook.blogspot.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, MyFirstMemoryDotOrg myfirstmemory.org@ wrote: I recently bought this combination, and the results are disappointing. Can anyone give their opinion on the results? 1st test: Just the camera: http://vimeo.com/11574151 With the mic: http://vimeo.com/11574105 I suppose the buzzing came from the two laptops operating very close, so we did a second test. 2nd test: Just the camera: http://vimeo.com/11574258 With the mic: http://vimeo.com/11574273 Why is the sound quality worse with the mic? What am I doing wrong?
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Zi8 with ECM-DS70P
MyFirstMemoryDotOrg: Nothing professional. Just no hissing. Yet you're not going to achieve anything but poor audio quality (in comparison to more robust units), from systems DESIGNED to be substandard in quality. This, me thinks, is what David was alluding to -- and I tend to agree. The harsh reality is, unfortunately, technology while amazing has limitations relative to purpose. If your purpose is to throw anything up on screen under a belief that content will override poor quality, then inexpensive gear should suffice. But for a few dollars more, however, better product control can be had by using equipment capable of delivering higher production values. As it stands now, issues like over-saturated audio gain (hence, hissing) is an unavoidable element when using cheaper gear. Thus you may want to consider upgrading to a level that better suits your purpose, or deal with the hissing as unavoidable. Hope this helps. Mark Villaseñor, http://www.TailTrex.tv Canine Adventures For Charity - sm http://www.SOAR508.org
[videoblogging] Re: Zi8 with ECM-DS70P
i tested the Zi8 with the senn ew100 lav mics. (this mic has an adjustable output level and it took a couple of tries to get the sound right.) in the end had good levels with no high pitched sounds. has anyone else tried mics that have adjustable levels? maybe that's the key? i mainly bought it for vlogging but i think it could be used as an alternate angle to play off the ex-1 (yeah the quality would be way different but could be a cool style:)). i'll post something when i have it. sean http://bit.ly/nakedlens http://www.videoregeneration.com http://www.organikmedia.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, compumavengal compumaven...@... wrote: The first set with mic off I heard a high pitched sound in the background but the audio was clear. In the second set there was something muting the sound or there was some kind of distance. Was the mic held at the same distance and position each time? Just my 2 cents, Gena http://createvideonotebook.blogspot.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, MyFirstMemoryDotOrg myfirstmemory.org@ wrote: I recently bought this combination, and the results are disappointing. Can anyone give their opinion on the results? 1st test: Just the camera: http://vimeo.com/11574151 With the mic: http://vimeo.com/11574105 I suppose the buzzing came from the two laptops operating very close, so we did a second test. 2nd test: Just the camera: http://vimeo.com/11574258 With the mic: http://vimeo.com/11574273 Why is the sound quality worse with the mic? What am I doing wrong?
[videoblogging] Re: Zi8 with ECM-DS70P
btw, got a PM about upgrading the firmware, and the camera came with 1.06, the latest one. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, MyFirstMemoryDotOrg myfirstmemory@... wrote: I recently bought this combination, and the results are disappointing. Can anyone give their opinion on the results? 1st test: Just the camera: http://vimeo.com/11574151 With the mic: http://vimeo.com/11574105 I suppose the buzzing came from the two laptops operating very close, so we did a second test. 2nd test: Just the camera: http://vimeo.com/11574258 With the mic: http://vimeo.com/11574273 Why is the sound quality worse with the mic? What am I doing wrong?
[videoblogging] Re: Zi8 with ECM-DS70P
The first set with mic off I heard a high pitched sound in the background but the audio was clear. In the second set there was something muting the sound or there was some kind of distance. Was the mic held at the same distance and position each time? Just my 2 cents, Gena http://createvideonotebook.blogspot.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, MyFirstMemoryDotOrg myfirstmemory@... wrote: I recently bought this combination, and the results are disappointing. Can anyone give their opinion on the results? 1st test: Just the camera: http://vimeo.com/11574151 With the mic: http://vimeo.com/11574105 I suppose the buzzing came from the two laptops operating very close, so we did a second test. 2nd test: Just the camera: http://vimeo.com/11574258 With the mic: http://vimeo.com/11574273 Why is the sound quality worse with the mic? What am I doing wrong?
[videoblogging] Re: Zi8 with ECM-DS70P
In the second set there was something muting the sound or there was some kind of distance. Was the mic held at the same distance and position each time? Yes, pretty much. The 2nd room was much bigger, but the camera should perform, no? This is just basic test videos in a quiet environment. If it is not performing in these, what can I expect out in the field? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, compumavengal compumaven...@... wrote: The first set with mic off I heard a high pitched sound in the background but the audio was clear. In the second set there was something muting the sound or there was some kind of distance. Was the mic held at the same distance and position each time? Just my 2 cents, Gena http://createvideonotebook.blogspot.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, MyFirstMemoryDotOrg myfirstmemory.org@ wrote: I recently bought this combination, and the results are disappointing. Can anyone give their opinion on the results? 1st test: Just the camera: http://vimeo.com/11574151 With the mic: http://vimeo.com/11574105 I suppose the buzzing came from the two laptops operating very close, so we did a second test. 2nd test: Just the camera: http://vimeo.com/11574258 With the mic: http://vimeo.com/11574273 Why is the sound quality worse with the mic? What am I doing wrong?
[videoblogging] Re: Zi8 with ECM-DS70P
So...just exactly what kind of performance are you expecting out of a $150 camera? I hope nothing professional. It's a low caliber camera. Pretty much you'll get something between crap and amateur results. David http://www.youtube.com/davidhowellca --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, MyFirstMemoryDotOrg myfirstmemory@... wrote: In the second set there was something muting the sound or there was some kind of distance. Was the mic held at the same distance and position each time? Yes, pretty much. The 2nd room was much bigger, but the camera should perform, no? This is just basic test videos in a quiet environment. If it is not performing in these, what can I expect out in the field? --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, compumavengal compumavengal@ wrote: The first set with mic off I heard a high pitched sound in the background but the audio was clear. In the second set there was something muting the sound or there was some kind of distance. Was the mic held at the same distance and position each time? Just my 2 cents, Gena http://createvideonotebook.blogspot.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, MyFirstMemoryDotOrg myfirstmemory.org@ wrote: I recently bought this combination, and the results are disappointing. Can anyone give their opinion on the results? 1st test: Just the camera: http://vimeo.com/11574151 With the mic: http://vimeo.com/11574105 I suppose the buzzing came from the two laptops operating very close, so we did a second test. 2nd test: Just the camera: http://vimeo.com/11574258 With the mic: http://vimeo.com/11574273 Why is the sound quality worse with the mic? What am I doing wrong?
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Zi8 with ECM-DS70P
what kind of performance are you expecting out of a $150 camera? I hope nothing professional. It's a low caliber camera. Pretty much you'll get something between crap and amateur results. David has a point. Inexpensive cameras offer amazing convenience but limited quality. I use my iPhone to record video clips these days. The sound/images are pretty horrible (compared to a pro camera), but it allows me to record moments I would lose otherwise. I just love having it in my pocket. Like old Super8, I think creaky DV video has its ow special look that we'll all have good memories of when we're old. Like when I see VHS now. I use a nice camera and dedicated microphone to record events that must be professional looking. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
