Re: [videoblogging] download google videos
Howdy Josh, Been meaning to ask you what you thought of the new google video. It seems to be moving in the right direction. It's still of no practical use to vloggers since you can't enclose a link to a video, but it's no longer quite the media trap it once was, and the potential for anyone to sell videos through it means it could be very accessible and long tail... not just a marketplace for hollywood content. More below. On Jan 15, 2006, at 1:11 AM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: apparently the videos you can purchase through Google Video Store aren't made to be played in common media players. Here's a hack to download AVI versions of the videos: http://www.querocarromogi.com/videogoogle/ I'm not sure about pay only' videos... very interested to hear more, but for free videos if you choose download for ipod or PSP you get a portable standard format mp4 you can take anywhere or do anything with. Anyone else try purchasing content through google video? -Mike -Josh Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] download google videos
Anyone else try purchasing content through google video? Yes it tried, my money wasn't good enough for Paramount Pics. videos since i am a non-us resident. -A Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] download google videos
Yes it tried I meant : Yes, I tried Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] download google videos
Been meaning to ask you what you thought of the new google video. I think its getting a little better, but its still far from good. Remember though, this is a very new direction for Goog. This is their first real attempt at e-commerce. This is also the first Google Search product that only searches Google's resources... expect similar from Google Base. This is a very interesting shift in strategy for Goog since all other search products are defined by their usefulness in their ability to link outbound from Google. Right now I think the Google Video Store interface needs a lot of work. It is also drastically lacking in terms of mainstream content. Let's compare, Apple started their video store with Desperate Housewives, Lost, and videos from U2 and Madonna. Google started theirs with CSI (okay), old Charlie Rose episodes, and old Brady Bunch episodes. Perhaps the thought of non-mainstream content providers setting their own price for download is attractive... we'll have to wait and see. But I'm told that the purchased videos from Google (I haven't attempted yet) only play in a special Google Video player and are not interoperable with any other media players. To me, this makes the value of their video offering significantly less... I'd be buying something that's designed to be broken (thank you DRM). Now, if I bought something that I could burn to a DVD (fair use if just fo me), shift to my TV somehow, put on my iPod or PSP, etc, then that would be of value. But here's the deal. Google has the luxury of time. They'll get better. They have a history of doing this. Starting with an initial crappy offering and then improving as they go. They've got enough money and engineering talent to see it through. So I guess we just have to wait and see. I agree with you though, I don't see this as being of much real use to videobloggers. -Josh On 1/15/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy Josh, Been meaning to ask you what you thought of the new google video. It seems to be moving in the right direction. It's still of no practical use to vloggers since you can't enclose a link to a video, but it's no longer quite the media trap it once was, and the potential for anyone to sell videos through it means it could be very accessible and long tail... not just a marketplace for hollywood content. More below. On Jan 15, 2006, at 1:11 AM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: apparently the videos you can purchase through Google Video Store aren't made to be played in common media players. Here's a hack to download AVI versions of the videos: http://www.querocarromogi.com/videogoogle/ I'm not sure about pay only' videos... very interested to hear more, but for free videos if you choose download for ipod or PSP you get a portable standard format mp4 you can take anywhere or do anything with. Anyone else try purchasing content through google video? -Mike -Josh Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] download google videos
The default 'google video' format is for the highest res-- You can also download the videos on ipod or psp format (at the uploader's discretion).Ronen YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] download google videos
On Jan 15, 2006, at 11:55 AM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: Been meaning to ask you what you thought of the new google video. I think its getting a little better, but its still far from good. Remember though, this is a very new direction for Goog. This is their first real attempt at e-commerce. This is also the first Google Search product that only searches Google's resources... expect similar from Google Base. This is a very interesting shift in strategy for Goog since all other search products are defined by their usefulness in their ability to link outbound from Google. Right now I think the Google Video Store interface needs a lot of work. It is also drastically lacking in terms of mainstream content. Let's compare, Apple started their video store with Desperate Housewives, Lost, and videos from U2 and Madonna. Google started theirs with CSI (okay), old Charlie Rose episodes, and old Brady Bunch episodes. Perhaps the thought of non-mainstream content providers setting their own price for download is attractive... we'll have to wait and see. But I'm told that the purchased videos from Google (I haven't attempted yet) only play in a special Google Video player and are not interoperable with any other media players. To me, this makes the value of their video offering significantly less... I'd be buying something that's designed to be broken (thank you DRM). Now, if I bought something that I could burn to a DVD (fair use if just fo me), shift to my TV somehow, put on my iPod or PSP, etc, then that would be of value. Yeap, I to am really wondering about the DRM issue... some rumored pay content would be purchaseable without DRM, but I'm not going to run out and futz around and purchase content just to find out time will tell. But here's the deal. Google has the luxury of time. They'll get better. They have a history of doing this. Starting with an initial crappy offering and then improving as they go. They've got enough money and engineering talent to see it through. So I guess we just have to wait and see. I agree with you though, I don't see this as being of much real use to videobloggers. -Josh I pretty much agree. I think that perhaps google had to start out closed and slowly open it up... and they'll continue to do so 1) you can't retract access... if you give away to much access and then retract it they'll be huge backlash 2) making such a service to open could potentially expose them to legal liablities All in all what I'm thinking is they're just trying to ease into the game. This is the same way they've rolled out crappy betas of many of their services... it's over time that their ideaologies and principals will become apparent. I could see this one day being useful to vloggers to sell a la carte media... but not in the vlogging process... not in say a paid subscription mechanism... not without serious revisions... anyway, it's got a very long way to go... google has barely scratched the surface and in fact does really have all the time in the world in this early game. About the non-mainstream media... google has never been an exclusivist... their market has always been making things accessible. I don't think google wants to make a store by which they make a lot of money of the few... I think what google's business plan might be is to make a little bit of money of an infinite amount of contnet... call it long tail B.S. or whatever. -Mike On 1/15/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy Josh, Been meaning to ask you what you thought of the new google video. It seems to be moving in the right direction. It's still of no practical use to vloggers since you can't enclose a link to a video, but it's no longer quite the media trap it once was, and the potential for anyone to sell videos through it means it could be very accessible and long tail... not just a marketplace for hollywood content. More below. On Jan 15, 2006, at 1:11 AM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: apparently the videos you can purchase through Google Video Store aren't made to be played in common media players. Here's a hack to download AVI versions of the videos: http://www.querocarromogi.com/videogoogle/ I'm not sure about pay only' videos... very interested to hear more, but for free videos if you choose download for ipod or PSP you get a portable standard format mp4 you can take anywhere or do anything with. Anyone else try purchasing content through google video? -Mike -Josh Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
