Re: [videoblogging] Re: Amanda on ABC is not a vlog
Well, at least we've progressed beyond the perverbial if your not a part of the solution you're a part of the problem stage. While being on abc's site has plenty of markeitng clout, I have no doubt that ABC... wether because someone there listens to the blogosphere, us or amanda... will come around. After all amanda does have many other vlogs like starring.amandacongdon.com that will illustrate over time the importance of accessibility. Some have misconstued this as a debate over the definition of a vlog... whatever... get over it... sorry to have mislead in the title. My point is there is a reason for all the constructs in vlogging. And that point is accessibility and usability. I could give a crap less about what people want to call it, but without many of the core fundamental features in a blog like permalinks, and an archive it'll be hard to get and retain regular viewership. -Mike On 12/23/06, Zack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is confusing to me. Didn't she formerly complain about the mainstream media (MSM)? Yet now she's a part of it? Bill Cammack wrote: Here's the press release, for those of you that aren't aware of what ABC's goals are: -- http://www.abcmedia net.com/pressrel /dispDNR. html?id=111406_ 02from=mnsearch http://www.abcmedianet.com/pressrel/dispDNR.html?id=111406_02from=mnsearch ABC Television Network PRESS RELEASE - ENTERTAINMENT - BLOGGER AMANDA CONGDON JOINS ABC NEWS' DIGITAL MEDIA GROUP Print This Document (note: To use this function, upgrade your browser: Quick Download) VIDEO BLOGGER AMANDA CONGDON JOINS ABC NEWS DIGITAL MEDIA GROUP AS A CONTRIBUTOR Dedicated to expanding its network and channel brands across multiple platforms and connecting viewers with their favorite shows anytime and anywhere, Disney-ABC Television Group announced today that Amanda Congdon has joined ABC News Digital Media Group as a contributor. In this role she will primarily contribute through a weekly video blog on the network's online component, ABCNEWS.com, and frequently appear on the 24-hour digital channel, ABC News Now. We are excited about the addition of Amanda and her unique, insightful approach to our team said Albert Cheng, executive vice president, Digital Media, Disney-ABC Television Group. Her background and proven ability to effortlessly blend news and pop culture will be invaluable assets as we continue to evolve how we deliver news and information across our digital platforms. I am very pleased to be joining the Disney-ABC Television Group team. They are breaking new ground online and I am eager to forge ahead with them, said Ms. Congdon. Many people use the internet as their #1 news source, so it's exciting that a major news provider like ABC News is actively expanding their original program offerings in the space. Ms. Congdon recently traveled across the country as part of her AmandaAcrossAmerica project, where she chronicled her experiences via video blogging, which included interviewing Iowa Governor Tom Vilsack. Prior to her nationwide tour, she was the well- known host of the daily online news show, Rocketboom.com. Ms. Congdon graduated magna cum laude from Northwestern University and currently resides in Los Angeles. The ABC News Digital Media group continues to show incredible growth through both ABCNEWS.com and ABC News Now. ABCNEWS.com hit a five-year high in October with more than 138 million page views, showing a 77% increase from October 2005, according to an internal measurement tool. The site recently ranked seventh among all news sites, drawing its highest ranking in nearly three years. ABC News Now is one of the most widely distributed broadband channels, available to over 27 million broadband subscribers, and is innovating the marketplace with its own line of viewer-generated programming, Be Seen and Be Heard. This announcement is part of the Disney-ABC Television Group's overall Digital Media multiplatform business initiative and demonstrates the Group's ongoing commitment to launching new digital products and working with strategic partners in the digital media space to make its high-quality, informative and entertaining content available to consumers whenever and wherever they choose. Media Contacts: Paige Capossela, ABC News, (212) 456-7243 Karen Hobson, Disney-ABC Television Group, (818) 569-7789 Michael Donkis, Endeavor, (310) 246 -3390 - --- In videoblogging@ yahoogroups. com mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Meiser groups-yahoo- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly Peter, ABC, is completely ignorant of the the potential of vidoe on the web and just replicating the sam ol' sh*t that worked on TV, but now's the chance to send a message and make a point. To clue big media in, and to help Amanda out.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Amanda on ABC is not a vlog
My point is there is a reason for all the constructs in vlogging. And that point is accessibility and usability. I could give a crap less about what people want to call it, but without many of the core fundamental features in a blog like permalinks, and an archive it'll be hard to get and retain regular viewership. Hmmm. Time will tell. And technology will evolve whether we're involved or not. Lots of people don't know what permalinks are. But they know they can subscribe for things in iTunes and see previous episodes listed in iTunes. Show notes? It won't be long before subscribers start asking for them. And things will happen. Once you involve the general public, you also involve decision-makers in the general public. They won't act, until they understand... That Amanda has caught the attention of mainstream media and public is encouraging. They have taken among the best the vlogger community has to offer and this means the ball is really rolling. Lisa lisaharper.org On 12/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, at least we've progressed beyond the perverbial if your not a part of the solution you're a part of the problem stage. While being on abc's site has plenty of markeitng clout, I have no doubt that ABC... wether because someone there listens to the blogosphere, us or amanda... will come around. After all amanda does have many other vlogs like starring.amandacongdon.com that will illustrate over time the importance of accessibility. Some have misconstued this as a debate over the definition of a vlog... whatever... get over it... sorry to have mislead in the title. My point is there is a reason for all the constructs in vlogging. And that point is accessibility and usability. I could give a crap less about what people want to call it, but without many of the core fundamental features in a blog like permalinks, and an archive it'll be hard to get and retain regular viewership. -Mike On 12/23/06, Zack [EMAIL PROTECTED] frigidarium%40comcast.net wrote: This is confusing to me. Didn't she formerly complain about the mainstream media (MSM)? Yet now she's a part of it? Bill Cammack wrote: Here's the press release, for those of you that aren't aware of what ABC's goals are: -- http://www.abcmedia net.com/pressrel /dispDNR. html?id=111406_ 02from=mnsearch http://www.abcmedianet.com/pressrel/dispDNR.html?id=111406_02from=mnsearch ABC Television Network PRESS RELEASE - ENTERTAINMENT - BLOGGER AMANDA CONGDON JOINS ABC NEWS' DIGITAL MEDIA GROUP Print This Document (note: To use this function, upgrade your browser: Quick Download) VIDEO BLOGGER AMANDA CONGDON JOINS ABC NEWS DIGITAL MEDIA GROUP AS A CONTRIBUTOR Dedicated to expanding its network and channel brands across multiple platforms and connecting viewers with their favorite shows anytime and anywhere, Disney-ABC Television Group announced today that Amanda Congdon has joined ABC News Digital Media Group as a contributor. In this role she will primarily contribute through a weekly video blog on the network's online component, ABCNEWS.com, and frequently appear on the 24-hour digital channel, ABC News Now. We are excited about the addition of Amanda and her unique, insightful approach to our team said Albert Cheng, executive vice president, Digital Media, Disney-ABC Television Group. Her background and proven ability to effortlessly blend news and pop culture will be invaluable assets as we continue to evolve how we deliver news and information across our digital platforms. I am very pleased to be joining the Disney-ABC Television Group team. They are breaking new ground online and I am eager to forge ahead with them, said Ms. Congdon. Many people use the internet as their #1 news source, so it's exciting that a major news provider like ABC News is actively expanding their original program offerings in the space. Ms. Congdon recently traveled across the country as part of her AmandaAcrossAmerica project, where she chronicled her experiences via video blogging, which included interviewing Iowa Governor Tom Vilsack. Prior to her nationwide tour, she was the well- known host of the daily online news show, Rocketboom.com. Ms. Congdon graduated magna cum laude from Northwestern University and currently resides in Los Angeles. The ABC News Digital Media group continues to show incredible growth through both ABCNEWS.com and ABC News Now. ABCNEWS.com hit a five-year high in October with more than 138 million page views, showing a 77% increase from October 2005, according to an internal measurement tool. The site recently ranked seventh among all news sites, drawing its highest ranking in nearly three years. ABC News Now is one of the most widely distributed broadband channels,
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Amanda on ABC is not a vlog
This is confusing to me. Didn't she formerly complain about the mainstream media (MSM)? Yet now she's a part of it? Bill Cammack wrote: Here's the press release, for those of you that aren't aware of what ABC's goals are: -- http://www.abcmedia net.com/pressrel /dispDNR. html?id=111406_ 02from=mnsearch http://www.abcmedianet.com/pressrel/dispDNR.html?id=111406_02from=mnsearch ABC Television Network PRESS RELEASE - ENTERTAINMENT - BLOGGER AMANDA CONGDON JOINS ABC NEWS' DIGITAL MEDIA GROUP Print This Document (note: To use this function, upgrade your browser: Quick Download) VIDEO BLOGGER AMANDA CONGDON JOINS ABC NEWS DIGITAL MEDIA GROUP AS A CONTRIBUTOR Dedicated to expanding its network and channel brands across multiple platforms and connecting viewers with their favorite shows anytime and anywhere, Disney-ABC Television Group announced today that Amanda Congdon has joined ABC News Digital Media Group as a contributor. In this role she will primarily contribute through a weekly video blog on the network's online component, ABCNEWS.com, and frequently appear on the 24-hour digital channel, ABC News Now. We are excited about the addition of Amanda and her unique, insightful approach to our team said Albert Cheng, executive vice president, Digital Media, Disney-ABC Television Group. Her background and proven ability to effortlessly blend news and pop culture will be invaluable assets as we continue to evolve how we deliver news and information across our digital platforms. I am very pleased to be joining the Disney-ABC Television Group team. They are breaking new ground online and I am eager to forge ahead with them, said Ms. Congdon. Many people use the internet as their #1 news source, so it's exciting that a major news provider like ABC News is actively expanding their original program offerings in the space. Ms. Congdon recently traveled across the country as part of her AmandaAcrossAmerica project, where she chronicled her experiences via video blogging, which included interviewing Iowa Governor Tom Vilsack. Prior to her nationwide tour, she was the well- known host of the daily online news show, Rocketboom.com. Ms. Congdon graduated magna cum laude from Northwestern University and currently resides in Los Angeles. The ABC News Digital Media group continues to show incredible growth through both ABCNEWS.com and ABC News Now. ABCNEWS.com hit a five-year high in October with more than 138 million page views, showing a 77% increase from October 2005, according to an internal measurement tool. The site recently ranked seventh among all news sites, drawing its highest ranking in nearly three years. ABC News Now is one of the most widely distributed broadband channels, available to over 27 million broadband subscribers, and is innovating the marketplace with its own line of viewer-generated programming, Be Seen and Be Heard. This announcement is part of the Disney-ABC Television Group's overall Digital Media multiplatform business initiative and demonstrates the Group's ongoing commitment to launching new digital products and working with strategic partners in the digital media space to make its high-quality, informative and entertaining content available to consumers whenever and wherever they choose. Media Contacts: Paige Capossela, ABC News, (212) 456-7243 Karen Hobson, Disney-ABC Television Group, (818) 569-7789 Michael Donkis, Endeavor, (310) 246 -3390 - --- In videoblogging@ yahoogroups. com mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Meiser groups-yahoo- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly Peter, ABC, is completely ignorant of the the potential of vidoe on the web and just replicating the sam ol' sh*t that worked on TV, but now's the chance to send a message and make a point. To clue big media in, and to help Amanda out. Amanda, I knew you know what makes vlogs work, that's perhaps why I pushed so hard. I understand.. . you're working with a big player they probably don't care what you think... tradtionally you're just the personality, the pretty face on the screen, they're probably not used to their on air tallent telling their techies how to do their job. We got your back, just send them this way and we'll clue them in. BTW, I did notice you got your RSS feed up. Half the trouble is just that the page is a mess. And so is the RSS feed. The permalinks for example in the feed just link back to a generic ABC podcast overview page, this is utterly clueless. RSS feeds aren't just about aggregation they're about search and findability as well. The whole idea of the permalink is to tie the videos / podcasts back to the original post, the original show notes. Your vlog on ABC seems to have todays shownotes/ links... but I'll be damned if I know where they go after that. ABC should get a clue and just
RE: [videoblogging] Re: Amanda on ABC is not a vlog
Amanda is still maintaining her vlog! She just posted a video there today, in fact. Starring Amanda Congdon http://blip.tv/users/view/amandacongdon [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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so what is the difiniton of a vlog again??? hope im doing it right randy averrycoollifeblog.blogspot.com On 12/22/06, Charles Hope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amanda is still maintaining her vlog! She just posted a video there today, in fact. Starring Amanda Congdon http://blip.tv/users/view/amandacongdon [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Should this be available via the amanda accross america feed? On 12/22/06, Charles Hope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amanda is still maintaining her vlog! She just posted a video there today, in fact. Starring Amanda Congdon http://blip.tv/users/view/amandacongdon [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://richardhhall.org http://richardshow.com http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Thanks for that suggestion. I will pass it along! From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard (Show) Hall Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 15:21 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Amanda on ABC is not a vlog Should this be available via the amanda accross america feed? On 12/22/06, Charles Hope [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:charles%40blip.tv wrote: Amanda is still maintaining her vlog! She just posted a video there today, in fact. Starring Amanda Congdon http://blip.tv/users/view/amandacongdon http://blip.tv/users/view/amandacongdon [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://richardhhall.org http://richardhhall.org http://richardshow.com http://richardshow.com http://inspiredhealing.tv http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Amanda on ABC is not a vlog
Heh, my argument is VERY simple. All I'm saying is it's not a blog. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog You can argue all day about wether it has videos or not, but it ain't no blog. :) I would tend to think that if it ain't no blog that this would make it certainly by definition no videoblog. If you call this thing qualifies as a blog you mine as well call any and every page on the web a blog. Besides... it's not about what you call it. It's about what it does... and it has not a single mechanism that blogs tend to have that make them useful tools for communication. So... if it is a blog or even a video blog, you must admit it's one of the worst damn blogs evar. This completely despite Amanda, her winning personal verbals stylings, personality and choicey news bits. Which I hear are in there somewhere, burried behind a mess of ads and popout windows. I think. Maybe. Peace, -Mike On 12/22/06, Charles Hope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for that suggestion. I will pass it along! From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard (Show) Hall Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 15:21 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Amanda on ABC is not a vlog Should this be available via the amanda accross america feed? On 12/22/06, Charles Hope [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:charles%40blip.tv wrote: Amanda is still maintaining her vlog! She just posted a video there today, in fact. Starring Amanda Congdon http://blip.tv/users/view/amandacongdon http://blip.tv/users/view/amandacongdon [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://richardhhall.org http://richardhhall.org http://richardshow.com http://richardshow.com http://inspiredhealing.tv http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
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Amanda, Am angle I might take with ABC is to just let you setup your own vlog where you can post the weekly videos (and anthing else you might care to contribute) on it with proper RSS feeds. They can still incorporate your videos into that god-awful ad-ridden abyss of a popup window UI since thats the standard for the industry and I doubt you will get them to completely drop that approach. But to let you have this companion videoblog would be great and could even be used to compare views/subscribers between the two environments in which case you would have some good proof to show them (assuming the numbers are good/better than the standard VOD player thingie). Just a thought. Sull On 12/22/06, Amanda Congdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike, We have comments, links and an RSS feed w/enclosures. The site is a mess, you are right. We are actively working to improve it. An embedded player will come sometime in January along with permalinks and better integration of the comments, links and archives. I told them all this before we launched. But they needed to hear it from about 2,549 bloggers before they'd believe me. ;) Thanks, Amanda --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh, my argument is VERY simple. All I'm saying is it's not a blog. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog You can argue all day about wether it has videos or not, but it ain't no blog. :) I would tend to think that if it ain't no blog that this would make it certainly by definition no videoblog. If you call this thing qualifies as a blog you mine as well call any and every page on the web a blog. Besides... it's not about what you call it. It's about what it does... and it has not a single mechanism that blogs tend to have that make them useful tools for communication. So... if it is a blog or even a video blog, you must admit it's one of the worst damn blogs evar. This completely despite Amanda, her winning personal verbals stylings, personality and choicey news bits. Which I hear are in there somewhere, burried behind a mess of ads and popout windows. I think. Maybe. Peace, -Mike On 12/22/06, Charles Hope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for that suggestion. I will pass it along! From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard (Show) Hall Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 15:21 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Amanda on ABC is not a vlog Should this be available via the amanda accross america feed? On 12/22/06, Charles Hope [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:charles% charles%2540blip.tv wrote: Amanda is still maintaining her vlog! She just posted a video there today, in fact. Starring Amanda Congdon http://blip.tv/users/view/amandacongdon http://blip.tv/users/view/amandacongdon [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://richardhhall.org http://richardhhall.org http://richardshow.com http://richardshow.com http://inspiredhealing.tv http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- Sull http://vlogdir.com (a project) http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog) http://interdigitate.com (otherly) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
