Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video blogging history/evolution
Here are the community's collected links to articles (some of them mainstream) about videoblogging and videobloggers. http://delicious.com/search?context=allp=vloggersinthenewslc=1 Since this comes up, anyone can tag an article in delicious to have it added to the collection :) Jan Jan McLaughlin Production Sound Mixer air = 862-571-5334 aim = janofsound skype = janmclaughlin On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Steve Garfield st...@offonatangent.comwrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, gintaras.miskinis gintaras.miski...@... wrote: Hello, Are there in this group any posts or links to the sources where I could find historical events in video blogging? I tried google'ing, but the most valuable source as I have found is - Jay Dedman's videoblogging book, where, however, I missed history (detailed) chapter... Hi, I've got a couple of recent posts with history in them. Fans, Friends Followers. Building an audience and a creative career in the Digital Age by Scott Kirsner http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2009/03/fans-friends-followers-building.html Interview with Sunny Gault http://stevegarfield.com/Site/About_Me.html Jimmy Fallon talks with Steve Garfield about his new show, Late Night With Jimmy Fallon http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/2009/01/jimmy-fallon-talks-with-steve-garfield-about-his-new-show-late-night-with-jimmy-fallon.html --Steve Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video blogging history/evolution
Here's some more info: http://vlogumentary.pbwiki.com/ On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 6:36 AM, Jan McLaughlin jannie@gmail.com wrote: Here are the community's collected links to articles (some of them mainstream) about videoblogging and videobloggers. http://delicious.com/search?context=allp=vloggersinthenewslc=1 Since this comes up, anyone can tag an article in delicious to have it added to the collection :) Jan Jan McLaughlin Production Sound Mixer air = 862-571-5334 aim = janofsound skype = janmclaughlin On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Steve Garfield st...@offonatangent.comwrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, gintaras.miskinis gintaras.miski...@... wrote: Hello, Are there in this group any posts or links to the sources where I could find historical events in video blogging? I tried google'ing, but the most valuable source as I have found is - Jay Dedman's videoblogging book, where, however, I missed history (detailed) chapter... Hi, I've got a couple of recent posts with history in them. Fans, Friends Followers. Building an audience and a creative career in the Digital Age by Scott Kirsner http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2009/03/fans-friends-followers-building.html Interview with Sunny Gault http://stevegarfield.com/Site/About_Me.html Jimmy Fallon talks with Steve Garfield about his new show, Late Night With Jimmy Fallon http://stevegarfield.blogs.com/videoblog/2009/01/jimmy-fallon-talks-with-steve-garfield-about-his-new-show-late-night-with-jimmy-fallon.html --Steve Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://michaelverdi.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video blogging history/evolution
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 3:10 PM, ultimco...@gmail.com ultimco...@gmail.com wrote: 2 or 3 years ago i made a graph here http://www.flickr.com/photos/loiezd/2068174027/sizes/o/ I forgot about this graph. added to our wiki: http://www.flickr.com/photos/loiezd/2068174027/sizes/o/ For people of East Europe the Vlogeurope group is also a good history http://www.vlogeurope.com/blog/ Yes... Loiez, Raymond, Gabriel, Mark, and other in Europe have helped push ideas through Vlogeurope. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video blogging history/evolution
What connects to YouTube community, I think that those who started blogging didn't feel the real joy of the video blogging start, like felt you people (I guess), who had began from technical issues, and ending with philosophical. In a sense, Youtubers' generation had everything put on the plate.. By the way, are there many people in Lithuania who are posting videos online? If so, can you send any links? Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video blogging history/evolution
Ah, the good old Wikipedia Vlogging article. It actually got nominated for deletion years ago due to a lack of reliable sources. I decided to clean it up and begin contributing sources to it and I managed to change the outcome of the vote. Let's just say it was a..uh..thankless job. :) I haven't contributed to it in years though and I agree that it has gone to shit. Pardon my merde. Let us know what you find. oh and watch out for Godwin's Law around this here town. pd On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 2:26 PM, gintaras.miskinis gintaras.miski...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.ded...@... wrote: Unfortunately, reliability has been a point of contention. Some in this group may remember the dramedy trying to write the wikipedia page for videoblogging. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Videoblogging Newspapers/magazines must write about it for it to be reliable. Makes a certain kind of sense. You got to capture the mainstream to be recognized. It's like a vetting process. Ive also learned that the history of videoblogging is wide and varied depending on what community you look at. This group has its own specific timeline that differs from people who began through Youtube exclusively. I can scan the chapter I wrote in my book if you'd like and email it to you. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 Thank you for your reply too. It's an honor for me to be contacted from the book author :) I made some thinking after I had read your shared thoughts and just have to agree: it is sad, that sources, which are not mainstream, cannot be trusted..well, officially. But on the other hand, a year ago, when I was writing a term paper about video blogging evolution I used your mentioned wikipedia link, and this year, I thought that I could use my a year ago written info in the final paper, and when rechecked wikipedia - saw, that most of the facts where different then I had found a year ago...it was experience from practical side on my own.. What connects to YouTube community, I think that those who started blogging didn't feel the real joy of the video blogging start, like felt you people (I guess), who had began from technical issues, and ending with philosophical. In a sense, Youtubers' generation had everything put on the plate.. However, I would be very grateful if you could scan your mentioned chapter and send it to me (to this yahoo mail if possible). You would help me a lot. Thanks again and sorry for my English. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video blogging history/evolution
Cue mass googling of Godwin's law. That's funny. I liked this from the Wikipedia entry for Godwin's law: In a Christmas Day review of The Spirit, New York Times movie critic A.O. Scott suggested that a similar axiom to Godwin's Law, applied to Hollywood, would stipulate that every movie star must eventually dress up in a German military uniform. On 1-Apr-09, at 11:44 AM, Patrick Delongchamp wrote: Ah, the good old Wikipedia Vlogging article. It actually got nominated for deletion years ago due to a lack of reliable sources. I decided to clean it up and begin contributing sources to it and I managed to change the outcome of the vote. Let's just say it was a..uh..thankless job. :) I haven't contributed to it in years though and I agree that it has gone to shit. Pardon my merde. Let us know what you find. oh and watch out for Godwin's Law around this here town. pd On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 2:26 PM, gintaras.miskinis gintaras.miski...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging %40yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.ded...@... wrote: Unfortunately, reliability has been a point of contention. Some in this group may remember the dramedy trying to write the wikipedia page for videoblogging. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Videoblogging Newspapers/magazines must write about it for it to be reliable. Makes a certain kind of sense. You got to capture the mainstream to be recognized. It's like a vetting process. Ive also learned that the history of videoblogging is wide and varied depending on what community you look at. This group has its own specific timeline that differs from people who began through Youtube exclusively. I can scan the chapter I wrote in my book if you'd like and email it to you. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790 Thank you for your reply too. It's an honor for me to be contacted from the book author :) I made some thinking after I had read your shared thoughts and just have to agree: it is sad, that sources, which are not mainstream, cannot be trusted..well, officially. But on the other hand, a year ago, when I was writing a term paper about video blogging evolution I used your mentioned wikipedia link, and this year, I thought that I could use my a year ago written info in the final paper, and when rechecked wikipedia - saw, that most of the facts where different then I had found a year ago...it was experience from practical side on my own.. What connects to YouTube community, I think that those who started blogging didn't feel the real joy of the video blogging start, like felt you people (I guess), who had began from technical issues, and ending with philosophical. In a sense, Youtubers' generation had everything put on the plate.. However, I would be very grateful if you could scan your mentioned chapter and send it to me (to this yahoo mail if possible). You would help me a lot. Thanks again and sorry for my English. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video blogging history/evolution
Truth is a dead tree. On 1-Apr-09, at 1:18 PM, gintaras.miskinis wrote: Just wanted to add, that a qualitative/trusty source, is a source which is written by a scientist or other person who is accepted by the society, i.e. has a expertise in branch. As I see, he must at leased published a book? (nonsense). Anyway, starting to get a headache of this unique case... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video blogging history/evolution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSEaHyzbqTA On 1-Apr-09, at 1:35 PM, Rupert wrote: Truth is a dead tree. On 1-Apr-09, at 1:18 PM, gintaras.miskinis wrote: Just wanted to add, that a qualitative/trusty source, is a source which is written by a scientist or other person who is accepted by the society, i.e. has a expertise in branch. As I see, he must at leased published a book? (nonsense). Anyway, starting to get a headache of this unique case... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video blogging history/evolution
Last year, I also tried to put some entries on our local country's youtube, and observed the reactions, which wrote in my paper..But I cannot call it a successful project. Just a few videos: http://www.videogaga.lt/user/bwoy. To me, this is what it's all about. We can email back and forth like this in textbut now we can actually see your face and hear you talk. If you took your camera outside, you could introduce us to your family and your world. As cheesy as it sounds, that's really the big deal here. It can be as revolutionary as we want it to be. Jay -- http://ryanishungry.com http://jaydedman.com http://twitter.com/jaydedman 917 371 6790
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video blogging history/evolution
2 or 3 years ago i made a graph here http://www.flickr.com/photos/loiezd/2068174027/sizes/o/ For people of East Europe the Vlogeurope group is also a good history http://www.vlogeurope.com/blog/ Have a nice day all Loiez
