Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-27 Thread Rupert
Hi JD.  The voting is going on at the Wiki - with people's names,  
which everyone can add to and check themselves - more open and no  
need for fraud prevention.  Discussions about why people want one or  
the other continue here, but *please* also add your vote at the wiki,  
because I don't know if anyone's going to be counting emails here and  
checking against what's on the wiki.

http://videoblogginggroup.pbwiki.com/Vloggercon-2007-Voting

On 27 Apr 2007, at 08:38, JD Lasica wrote:

Has anyone suggested doing an online poll (with vote fraud prevention
mechanisms in place), with 4 or 5 possible locations for the next
Vloggercon, so members of this list could vote? :~)

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-27 Thread Adam Quirk, Wreck Salvage
Well it sounds like there are a lot of folks ready to put in the grunt work
in DC, so I'm removing my NYC vote from the pool.

I've been up here in the northeast for 3 1/2 years and have still never
taken the train down to DC.  This is a good reason for me to get my ass down
there.

Jonny, I'm sleeping in your bed, between you and your wife.

On 4/26/07, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Minnesota? Could work but no one wants to come here at the best of times.

 I am finding myself being more draw to DC. Not for the political
 purposes though.

 David
 http://www.davidhowellstudios.com

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  1. Somewhere in the middle of the country that isn't Chicago (nothing
  against Chicago, I just think a place that isn't already one of the
 Big Deal
  Arts and Media cities would be good. But someplace that is still
 into the
  new and the vital and where new ideas can take root. Minneapolis?
  2. New Orleans and DC are both compelling choices for reasons mentioned.
  3. Portland OR
 
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-27 Thread Robyn Tippins
DC sounds great to me too.  You should be able to get cheap flights to DC
and plenty of hotels.  DCMediaMakers should be very helpful as well, as they
already have a thriving network there.

Robyn

On 4/27/07, Rupert Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   We're up to 95 votes in total now, 46 of them for DC. Jay suggested
 that we close the vote at 100 votes.

 It seems pretty decisive already, but maybe we can close the voting on
 Monday, give people a chance to catch up on their email over the weekend.

 I understand Jen and Richard's thoughts about organisers being more
 important than venue, but we had at least 3 serious offers for
 organising - Randy in Boston, Carl in Ohio and Johnny  Co in DC - and
 the discussion has been going on since October/November, always
 petering out without a decision or a sense of which option people
 would prefer. Hopefully, having this kind of approval  mandate from
 the community will kickstart  enthuse the winning team :)

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-27 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
I like Intercourse!

Schlomo
http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
http://hatfactory.net
http://winkshow.com


On 4/27/07, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   OK, everyone I hate to throw a monkey wrench in everything but I feel
 like this city should be discussedBat Cave, NC. I mean c'mon we
 HAVE to have it there! VoggerCon 07 in the Bat Cave!

 honable mentions for cities should be
 Bagdad, KY
 Intercourse, PA
 Lizard Lick, NC
 Blue Ball, PA

 These are all real cities, can you believe that?!?!! ;-)

 Heath
 http://batmangeek.com

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Rupert Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  We're up to 95 votes in total now, 46 of them for DC. Jay suggested
  that we close the vote at 100 votes.
 
  It seems pretty decisive already, but maybe we can close the voting
 on
  Monday, give people a chance to catch up on their email over the
 weekend.
 
  I understand Jen and Richard's thoughts about organisers being more
  important than venue, but we had at least 3 serious offers for
  organising - Randy in Boston, Carl in Ohio and Johnny  Co in DC -
 and
  the discussion has been going on since October/November, always
  petering out without a decision or a sense of which option people
  would prefer. Hopefully, having this kind of approval  mandate
 from
  the community will kickstart  enthuse the winning team :)
 
  Rupert
  http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/
 

  



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-27 Thread Jen Simmons
Yeah. Excellent work moving forward. I'd expect the next conversation  
will be about when
I say NOT AUGUST! D.C. in August is a killer. Wait until things cool  
down.

Jen

On Apr 27, 2007, at 12:06 pm, Rupert Howe wrote:

 We're up to 95 votes in total now, 46 of them for DC. Jay suggested
 that we close the vote at 100 votes.

 It seems pretty decisive already, but maybe we can close the voting on
 Monday, give people a chance to catch up on their email over the  
 weekend.

 I understand Jen and Richard's thoughts about organisers being more
 important than venue, but we had at least 3 serious offers for
 organising - Randy in Boston, Carl in Ohio and Johnny  Co in DC - and
 the discussion has been going on since October/November, always
 petering out without a decision or a sense of which option people
 would prefer. Hopefully, having this kind of approval  mandate from
 the community will kickstart  enthuse the winning team :)

 Rupert
 http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/


 



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-27 Thread Irina
as far as time, dont forget Vloggies are in Nov in LA

On 4/26/07, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   1. Somewhere in the middle of the country that isn't Chicago (nothing
 against Chicago, I just think a place that isn't already one of the Big
 Deal
 Arts and Media cities would be good. But someplace that is still into the
 new and the vital and where new ideas can take root. Minneapolis?
 2. New Orleans and DC are both compelling choices for reasons mentioned.
 3. Portland OR

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007 Wiki

2007-04-26 Thread Rupert
Great :)
The PBwiki is up and running again now and the voting page is at:

http://videoblogginggroup.pbwiki.com/Vloggercon-2007-Voting

If you're voting here, maybe you'd also like to add your name to the  
vote page on the wiki cause it's going to be too hard to count up  
here now and much easier there.  DC is swinging wildly into the lead  
today, with 18 votes to NY's 13, even though that's without the last  
couple of votes for DC posted here.

Rupert
http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/
http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/

On 26 Apr 2007, at 08:45, Steve Woolf wrote:

I'm a little late to the party, but I think D.C. would be a *great*
choice for Vloggercon 2007. Totally appropriate, away from the L.A.
hubbub going on right now, great airport, etc. If it's going to be in
the U.S. I vote for D.C.

Steve

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Casey McKinnon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Which Montreal... Montreal, Canada, or Montreal, Michigan?
 
  BTW... I just remembered that I stood up in the middle of Vloggercon
  last year and proposed that we hold it in Washington DC! Net
  Neutrality, yo!!!
 
  C.
 
  ---
  http://galacticast.com/
 
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chris Daniel chcdaniel@
  wrote:
  
   Wow.. 80 or 90 vloggers in favor of Montreal..huh?
  
   -Chris
   --
   http://nTune.tv
   http://ChrisDanielVideos.com
  
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, wallythewonderdog
   wallythewarlord@ wrote:
   
NOT SO FAST THERE, BUCKO. 5 minutes ago, at the top of the wiki
voting page, it said I added a few DC folks who told me they  
are in
favor of DC--Jonny.
   
How about this: There are, oh, 80 or 90 folks who told me
they are
in favor of Montreal. OK if I add their names?
   
I thought not.
   
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-26 Thread Irina
yes DC

On 4/26/07, Steve Woolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I'm a little late to the party, but I think D.C. would be a *great*
 choice for Vloggercon 2007. Totally appropriate, away from the L.A.
 hubbub going on right now, great airport, etc. If it's going to be in
 the U.S. I vote for D.C.

 Steve

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Casey McKinnon

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Which Montreal... Montreal, Canada, or Montreal, Michigan?
 
  BTW... I just remembered that I stood up in the middle of Vloggercon
  last year and proposed that we hold it in Washington DC! Net
  Neutrality, yo!!!
 
  C.
 
  ---
  http://galacticast.com/
 
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Chris Daniel chcdaniel@
  wrote:
  
   Wow.. 80 or 90 vloggers in favor of Montreal..huh?
  
   -Chris
   --
   http://nTune.tv
   http://ChrisDanielVideos.com
  
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 wallythewonderdog
   wallythewarlord@ wrote:
   
NOT SO FAST THERE, BUCKO. 5 minutes ago, at the top of the wiki
voting page, it said I added a few DC folks who told me they are in
favor of DC--Jonny.
   
How about this: There are, oh, 80 or 90 folks who told me
 they are
in favor of Montreal. OK if I add their names?
   
I thought not.
   
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-26 Thread Jan McLaughlin
Dont' forget that VlogEurope is 9/1 in Heidelburg, GE.

I'm goin' to VlogEurope for sure.

DC makes a lot of sense, even tho I'm in NYC.

DC for me :)

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-26 Thread carlos
hey guys,

i think we need to watch our wiki editing. i added myself to the dc tally
and now i'm no longer there.

am i permitted to re-add my name or is that up to someone else?

carlos

 Fair enough. I'll take 'em off.

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, wallythewonderdog
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 NOT SO FAST THERE, BUCKO.  5 minutes ago, at the top of the wiki
 voting page, it said I added a few DC folks who told me they are in
 favor of DC--Jonny.

 How about this:  There are, oh, 80 or 90 folks who told me they are
 in favor of Montreal.  OK if I add their names?

 I thought not.

 --Wally le Seigneur de Guerre








Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-26 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
Den 26.04.2007 kl. 15:12 skrev Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Dont' forget that VlogEurope is 9/1 in Heidelburg, GE.

 I'm goin' to VlogEurope for sure.

Yes, come to Europe! It's sure to be a blast. Of course it's a much  
smaller event than vloggercon which makes everything easier.

Have you seen the view from Joel's place? URL:  
http://joelart.blogspot.com/2006/07/beginning-node-101-heidelberg-watch.html  

Damn beautiful (and there's a real castle, beat that Washington DC). I  
can't wait. :o)

- Andreas
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-26 Thread Adam Quirk, Wreck Salvage
What is the closest/cheapest major airport to Heidelberg?

On 4/26/07, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Den 26.04.2007 kl. 15:12 skrev Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Dont' forget that VlogEurope is 9/1 in Heidelburg, GE.
 
  I'm goin' to VlogEurope for sure.

 Yes, come to Europe! It's sure to be a blast. Of course it's a much
 smaller event than vloggercon which makes everything easier.

 Have you seen the view from Joel's place? URL:

 http://joelart.blogspot.com/2006/07/beginning-node-101-heidelberg-watch.html
 
 Damn beautiful (and there's a real castle, beat that Washington DC). I
 can't wait. :o)

 - Andreas
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-26 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
Den 26.04.2007 kl. 17:14 skrev Chuck Leggett [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I believe traditional media will pick up on Vloggercon if held in New
 Orleans.

Should this be a determining factor? Seems irrelevant to me. In my little  
world conferences are mainly about the people who attend, not the  
journalists who may or may not write about it afterwards.

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RE: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-26 Thread Charles Hope
We've gone from discussing a meetup of the community, to currying media
attention (I thought we WERE the media?), to now planning a Million
Vlogger March on Washington! 

 

 -Original Message-
 From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Leggett
 Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:03
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007
 
 I agree it shouldn't be a factor. I stated it because one of 
 the arguments for having it in DC was the potential for 
 traditional media coverage.
 
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Den 26.04.2007 kl. 17:14 skrev Chuck Leggett [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
   I believe traditional media will pick up on Vloggercon if held in 
   New Orleans.
  
  Should this be a determining factor? Seems irrelevant to me. In my
 little  
  world conferences are mainly about the people who attend, not the 
  journalists who may or may not write about it afterwards.
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-26 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
You fly to Frankfurt International Airport - one of the major European  
hubs (along with London, Paris and Amsterdam) - and then Heidelberg is but  
a train trip away.

It's a giant airport (I've been waiting there more than once). If you're  
into that kind of thing Wikipedia has a list of airlines that fly to  
Frankfurt (and where they fly from). You can catch direct flights from  
most major US cities: URL:  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_International_Airport#Structure_and_function
  
 (Lufthansa, Delta, Continental fly from JFK or Newark)

For the Europeans Ryanair also flies to Frankfurt-Hahn Airport, but the  
train ride to Heidelberg will be much longer.

- Andreas

PS. Joel, who is the organizer is travelling at the moment, hence I'm  
writing these e-mails even though I'm no Heidelberg expert. :o)

Den 26.04.2007 kl. 17:23 skrev Adam Quirk, Wreck  Salvage  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 What is the closest/cheapest major airport to Heidelberg?

 On 4/26/07, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Den 26.04.2007 kl. 15:12 skrev Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Dont' forget that VlogEurope is 9/1 in Heidelburg, GE.
 
  I'm goin' to VlogEurope for sure.

 Yes, come to Europe! It's sure to be a blast. Of course it's a much
 smaller event than vloggercon which makes everything easier.

 Have you seen the view from Joel's place? URL:

 http://joelart.blogspot.com/2006/07/beginning-node-101-heidelberg-watch.html
 
 Damn beautiful (and there's a real castle, beat that Washington DC). I
 can't wait. :o)

 - Andreas
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 URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ 



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-26 Thread Jay dedman
On 4/25/07, wallythewonderdog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 NOT SO FAST THERE, BUCKO.  5 minutes ago, at the top of the wiki
  voting page, it said I added a few DC folks who told me they are in
  favor of DC--Jonny.
  How about this:  There are, oh, 80 or 90 folks who told me they are
  in favor of Montreal.  OK if I add their names?
  I thought not.

put down anyone who has said they are in favor of a certain town.
of course the UN monitors will independently verify all votes.

jay


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-26 Thread Jen Simmons
On Apr 26, 2007, at 11:14 am, Chuck Leggett wrote:

 Once you've seen a bunch of monuments and museums in DC, what else is
 there?

 How about something else, something real that is more humanizing?

HEY!
I'm a real-deal Washingtonian, 8th generation in fact, and I'm human.  
And not one person in my family was a politician. Carpenters, bread  
delivery truck loaders, phone company employees, construction  
managers, teachers, mothers (bad ones, but that's a whole other  
story).  There are a lot of humans who live in D.C.. And have nothing  
to do with Washington Politics.

so DON'T KNOCK MY CITY! ;-)

If you want to see DC, and see beyond the tourist worlds, then get  
off the Mall, and go see the real DC. That happens in every city --  
the typical huge convention make people think they've been to a city,  
when really they've just been to the airport, the convention center,  
the convention hotel, the four convention hotel Starbucks, and the  
three Au Bon Pans.

At least DC makes it easy to get beyond that! There aren't any Au Bon  
Pans wedged between the Smithsonians. Which, btw, take days and days  
and days to see, so anyone traveling from out of town who does want  
to experience what the DC Mall has to offer (and the Mall is a park  
space, not a shopping center) -- then come for an extra week to 10 days.
http://www.gosmithsonian.com/
http://www.nps.gov/nama/

I have a feeling much of the Vloggercon days will be spent with  
Vloggercon people in Vloggercon spaces -- that's a lot already!

This does raise a good question, what pre-conference / post- 
conference activities do we want? A group trip to the Air and Space  
Museum to see the spaceships -- you know, the REAL SPACESHIPS?
http://www.nasm.si.edu/exhibitions/gal114/

To connect with a community media arts center in town? Connect with  
people working on Fair Use (Center for Social Media), Net Neutrality,  
FCC issues. Like maybe:
http://www.videoaction.org/
http://www.centerforsocialmedia.org/
http://www.creativevoices.us/
http://www.ctcnet.org/
http://www.mediaaccess.org/

jen

  

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-26 Thread Jay dedman
 We've gone from discussing a meetup of the community, to currying media
  attention (I thought we WERE the media?), to now planning a Million
  Vlogger March on Washington!

even in here...the spin doctors are at work!
here's my original pitch for DC:

--Its central and easy to fly into.
--it'd be a surprise because its not a common place to hold a bleeding
edge, community tech conference
--DC is getting more and more attention as the 2008 US elections keeps
heating up. A grassroots media conference is perfect for this mix.
--we're right in the heart of the FCC where decisions on Net
Neutrality are being decided
--I imagine 300 vloggers running around the Capitol steps with
cameras. especially the new Nokias where you can upload to the web
immediately.

It's not about being covered by traditional media, but there is no
denying that it's a central hub of information creators. For me, it's
more about educating ourselves on how information in the US gets
passed around and spread. it's empowering for me to see it and say is
that all they do?

jay


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-26 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
I definitely want to connect with these people; DC has a thriving media
community (both on this list and off).  It's one of many reasons why I want
to throw Vloggercon over there.

Schlomo

On 4/26/07, Jen Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 To connect with a community media arts center in town? Connect with
 people working on Fair Use (Center for Social Media), Net Neutrality,
 FCC issues. Like maybe:
 http://www.videoaction.org/
 http://www.centerforsocialmedia.org/
 http://www.creativevoices.us/
 http://www.ctcnet.org/
 http://www.mediaaccess.org/\



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-26 Thread andrew michael baron
I'd pitch in for D.C. the folowwing year when things are way more manic.

But now or then, D.C. Is a good one I thinlk.  



Sent via CrackBerry  

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From: Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 10:04:23 
To:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

 We've gone from discussing a meetup of the community, to currying media
  attention (I thought we WERE the media?), to now planning a Million
  Vlogger March on Washington!
 
 even in here...the spin doctors are at work!
 here's my original pitch for DC:
 
 --Its central and easy to fly into.
 --it'd be a surprise because its not a common place to hold a bleeding
 edge, community tech conference
 --DC is getting more and more attention as the 2008 US elections keeps
 heating up. A grassroots media conference is perfect for this mix.
 --we're right in the heart of the FCC where decisions on Net
 Neutrality are being decided
 --I imagine 300 vloggers running around the Capitol steps with
 cameras. especially the new Nokias where you can upload to the web
 immediately.
 
 It's not about being covered by traditional media, but there is no
 denying that it's a central hub of information creators. For me, it's
 more about educating ourselves on how information in the US gets
 passed around and spread. it's empowering for me to see it and say is
 that all they do?
 
 jay
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-26 Thread RANDY MANN
i always wanted to see the white
house.

On 4/26/07, Chuck Leggett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Jen Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  HEY!
  I'm a real-deal Washingtonian, 8th generation in fact, and I'm human.
  And not one person in my family was a politician. Carpenters, bread
  delivery truck loaders, phone company employees, construction
  managers, teachers, mothers (bad ones, but that's a whole other
  story). There are a lot of humans who live in D.C.. And have nothing
  to do with Washington Politics.
 
  so DON'T KNOCK MY CITY! ;-)

 I always thought you DC people were a bunch of animals! :p

 Seriously though, I've always enjoyed my trips to DC. It would make a
 great place for a convention.

 I just wanted to throw New Orleans into the mix because:
 1. it's a cool place to visit
 2. it's near my home ;)

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-26 Thread j coffey
Heidelberg is just an hour train ride from Frankfurt.
It's an amazing little town with a huge castel. I did
a video from there last year,
http://www.jchtv.com/vlog/Heidelberg.mov
John

--- Adam Quirk, Wreck  Salvage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What is the closest/cheapest major airport to
 Heidelberg?
 
 On 4/26/07, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Den 26.04.2007 kl. 15:12 skrev Jan McLaughlin
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
   Dont' forget that VlogEurope is 9/1 in
 Heidelburg, GE.
  
   I'm goin' to VlogEurope for sure.
 
  Yes, come to Europe! It's sure to be a blast. Of
 course it's a much
  smaller event than vloggercon which makes
 everything easier.
 
  Have you seen the view from Joel's place? URL:
 
 

http://joelart.blogspot.com/2006/07/beginning-node-101-heidelberg-watch.html
  
  Damn beautiful (and there's a real castle, beat
 that Washington DC). I
  can't wait. :o)
 
  - Andreas
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-26 Thread j coffey
Hey Schlomo,
Can we get Mike Wilbon and Tony Kornheiser from ESPN
(PTI podcast) to join if it is DC?

--- schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I definitely want to connect with these people; DC
 has a thriving media
 community (both on this list and off).  It's one of
 many reasons why I want
 to throw Vloggercon over there.
 
 Schlomo
 
 On 4/26/07, Jen Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 
  To connect with a community media arts center in
 town? Connect with
  people working on Fair Use (Center for Social
 Media), Net Neutrality,
  FCC issues. Like maybe:
  http://www.videoaction.org/
  http://www.centerforsocialmedia.org/
  http://www.creativevoices.us/
  http://www.ctcnet.org/
  http://www.mediaaccess.org/\
 
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-26 Thread Brook Hinton
1. Somewhere in the middle of the country that isn't Chicago (nothing
against Chicago, I just think a place that isn't already one of the Big Deal
Arts and Media cities would be good. But someplace that is still into the
new and the vital and where new ideas can take root. Minneapolis?
2. New Orleans and DC are both compelling choices for reasons mentioned.
3. Portland OR



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-25 Thread Rupert
Well, Waiting for Schlomo killed this thread faster than you can say  
'Beckett'.

I've got an idea.  Democracy!  We have 2 very kind  cool groups of  
people very willing to organise in Boston and in DC and at  
BarcampUSA.  So it's really about which people would prefer.  We need  
some urgency - it's already the end of April, and we started  
discussing it in January.

How about everybody who has a preference for either Boston or DC or  
BarcampUSA emails this list simply stating their preference, and we  
count the votes at the end of next week?  It'll be a hell of a  
thread, but at least it'll be one vlogger, one vote :)

Rupert
http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/

On 16 Apr 2007, at 08:54, Irina wrote:

guys, dont get too excited till schlomo gives the go-ahead

On 4/15/07, RANDY MANN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  if you plan it they will come
 
  i started to look into venues for boston, got some leads. just  
need some
  sponsors for booking deposets.
 
  On 4/15/07, Jim Long [EMAIL PROTECTED]newmediajim%40yahoo.com
  wrote:
  
   I'd like to second the motion made by my esteemed colleague Mr.
   Goldstein, the gentleman from DC. Do we have a quorom? Would  
Speaker of
  the
   House Andy Carvin care to weigh in on this?
  
  
   - Original Message 
   From: Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] enric%40cirne.com enric% 
40cirne.com
   To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 
40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:59:33 PM
   Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007
  
   Find a place and sponsors.
  
   ;)
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 
40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
   jonny goldstein
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
I'd like to throw Washington DC in the ring as a possible  
venue for
Vloggercon 2007.
   
So far we've had NYC (The Culture/Finance/Media capital), Bay  
Area
(The Tech capital), why not do vloggercon in the political  
capital?
Imagine combining Vloggercon with visits to your lawmakers,  
interest
groups, and such and vlogging those visits?
   
The election cycle is going to add a bunch of energy to this  
town too,
and we can feed off and into that energy.
   
Washington DC is all about communication. Every major interest  
group
in the country has a presence here. Maybe it makes sense for  
DIY media
makers to have their voice heard here too. Maybe there are  
some issues
that we hold in common, perhaps around intellectual property, net
neutrality, shield laws, broadband access? If so, a collective  
voice
beats a solitary voice.
   
I'm sure there are lots of great places to hold vloggercon, I  
just
want to make a case for DC. We have an expanding community of  
vloggers
on the ground here who I'm sure would be happy to help out in the
organizing and running of the event. I certainly would love to  
help
  out.
   
OK, that's my pitch. What do people think?
   
   
   
   
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging% 
40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 
   Rupert rupert@ wrote:

 What's the most recent plan for this? Last I heard here (just
 searched) it was going to be in Boston in the Summer, and  
not merged
 with BarCampUSA. Is that right? Still on? Any definite plans?

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-25 Thread Steve Garfield
Hi Rupert,

PodCamp is already scheduled for October in Boston, and I'll be  
working with Chris Brogan and Christopher Penn to help organize that.

PodCamp Boston 2 - October 26 - 28, 2007 before VON Boston

http://podcamp.pbwiki.com/PodCampBoston2

It's open for anyone to attend and present, and it's free.

--Steve

On Apr 25, 2007, at 4:14 AM, Rupert wrote:

 How about everybody who has a preference for either Boston or DC or  
 BarcampUSA emails this list simply stating their preference, and we
 count the votes at the end of next week?

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-25 Thread RANDY MANN
yea but its not vloggercon.  i have most of the peices in place right now. i

PodCamp is already scheduled for October in Boston, and I'll be
working with Chris Brogan and Christopher Penn to help organize that.
 good for you now what does that have to do with vloggercon?

vloggercon is big enough to stand on its own. it should not be bundled with
any other conference.

On 4/25/07, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hi Rupert,

 PodCamp is already scheduled for October in Boston, and I'll be
 working with Chris Brogan and Christopher Penn to help organize that.

 PodCamp Boston 2 - October 26 - 28, 2007 before VON Boston

 http://podcamp.pbwiki.com/PodCampBoston2

 It's open for anyone to attend and present, and it's free.

 --Steve

 On Apr 25, 2007, at 4:14 AM, Rupert wrote:

  How about everybody who has a preference for either Boston or DC or
  BarcampUSA emails this list simply stating their preference, and we
  count the votes at the end of next week?

 --
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-25 Thread Stephanie Bryant
On 4/25/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How about everybody who has a preference for either Boston or DC or
 BarcampUSA emails this list simply stating their preference, and we
 count the votes at the end of next week?  It'll be a hell of a
 thread, but at least it'll be one vlogger, one vote :)

Either. My attendance now depends on timing, not location.

--Stephanie

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-25 Thread Brett Gaylor
How about having it International.  Montreal?

Brett

On 25-Apr-07, at 4:14 AM, Rupert wrote:

 Well, Waiting for Schlomo killed this thread faster than you can say
 'Beckett'.

 I've got an idea. Democracy! We have 2 very kind  cool groups of
 people very willing to organise in Boston and in DC and at
 BarcampUSA. So it's really about which people would prefer. We need
 some urgency - it's already the end of April, and we started
 discussing it in January.

 How about everybody who has a preference for either Boston or DC or
 BarcampUSA emails this list simply stating their preference, and we
 count the votes at the end of next week? It'll be a hell of a
 thread, but at least it'll be one vlogger, one vote :)

 Rupert
 http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/

 On 16 Apr 2007, at 08:54, Irina wrote:

 guys, dont get too excited till schlomo gives the go-ahead

 On 4/15/07, RANDY MANN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  if you plan it they will come
 
  i started to look into venues for boston, got some leads. just
 need some
  sponsors for booking deposets.
 
  On 4/15/07, Jim Long [EMAIL PROTECTED]newmediajim% 
 40yahoo.com
  wrote:
  
   I'd like to second the motion made by my esteemed colleague Mr.
   Goldstein, the gentleman from DC. Do we have a quorom? Would
 Speaker of
  the
   House Andy Carvin care to weigh in on this?
  
  
   - Original Message 
   From: Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] enric%40cirne.com enric%
 40cirne.com
   To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%
 40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:59:33 PM
   Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007
  
   Find a place and sponsors.
  
   ;)
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%
 40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
   jonny goldstein
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
I'd like to throw Washington DC in the ring as a possible
 venue for
Vloggercon 2007.
   
So far we've had NYC (The Culture/Finance/Media capital), Bay
 Area
(The Tech capital), why not do vloggercon in the political
 capital?
Imagine combining Vloggercon with visits to your lawmakers,
 interest
groups, and such and vlogging those visits?
   
The election cycle is going to add a bunch of energy to this
 town too,
and we can feed off and into that energy.
   
Washington DC is all about communication. Every major interest
 group
in the country has a presence here. Maybe it makes sense for
 DIY media
makers to have their voice heard here too. Maybe there are
 some issues
that we hold in common, perhaps around intellectual property,  
 net
neutrality, shield laws, broadband access? If so, a collective
 voice
beats a solitary voice.
   
I'm sure there are lots of great places to hold vloggercon, I
 just
want to make a case for DC. We have an expanding community of
 vloggers
on the ground here who I'm sure would be happy to help out in  
 the
organizing and running of the event. I certainly would love to
 help
  out.
   
OK, that's my pitch. What do people think?
   
   
   
   
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%
 40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 
   Rupert rupert@ wrote:

 What's the most recent plan for this? Last I heard here (just
 searched) it was going to be in Boston in the Summer, and
 not merged
 with BarCampUSA. Is that right? Still on? Any definite plans?

 Rupert
 http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-25 Thread Adam Quirk, Wreck Salvage
1 vote for NYC

On 4/25/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I've got an idea.  Democracy!



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-25 Thread Jay dedman
 I'd like to throw Washington DC in the ring as a possible venue for
  Vloggercon 2007.
  So far we've had NYC (The Culture/Finance/Media capital), Bay Area
  (The Tech capital), why not do vloggercon in the political capital?
  Imagine combining Vloggercon with  visits to your lawmakers, interest
  groups, and such and vlogging those visits?
  The election cycle is going to add a bunch of energy to this town too,
  and we can feed off and into that energy.
  Washington DC is all about communication. Every major interest group
  in the country has a presence here. Maybe it makes sense for DIY media
  makers to have their voice heard here too. Maybe there are some issues
  that we hold in common, perhaps around intellectual property, net
  neutrality, shield laws, broadband access? If so, a collective voice
  beats a solitary voice.

Jonny and I talked about holding Vloggercon in DC.
Its great on several levels.
--Its central and easy to fly into.
--it'd be a surprise because its not a common place to hold a bleeding
edge, community tech conference
--DC is getting more and more attention as the 2008 US elections keeps
heating up. A grassroots media conference is perfect for this mix.
--we're right in the heart of the FCC where decisions on Net
Neutrality are being decided
--I imagine 300 vloggers running around the Capitol steps with
cameras. especially the new Nokias where you can upload to the web
immediately.

im for DC.

jay


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-25 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Hello,

I vote for Vancouver too.

(I'm already here :-)  )


See ya

On 4/25/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is cool!  I suggested voting for Boston, DC or BarcampUSA.  So
  far we've got two votes for Montreal, two votes for NYC and 1 vote
  for Podcamp.  If only real democracy worked like this :)  I'd like to
  suggest Vancouver in August :) That place is fulla vloggers.
  Otherwise, I'm not going to be able to afford to go to any of them,
  so I guess I shouldn't vote.  But I'm swayed both by Jay's argument
  about DC and the fact that Randy's planning is already underway in
  Boston.
  Rupert
  http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/


  On 25 Apr 2007, at 17:38, David Howell wrote:

  I second NYC.

  David
  http://www.davidhowellstudios.com

  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk, Wreck  Salvage
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
1 vote for NYC
   
On 4/25/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I've got an idea. Democracy!

   


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RE: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-25 Thread Tom Gosse
Is there any other?
 
  _  

From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of wallythewonderdog
Sent: Wednesday, 25 April, 2007 11:49 AM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007
 
Yeah, I vote for Montreal.
You are talking about the one in Canada, right?
 


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-25 Thread Richard (Show) Hall
http://montreal.missouri.com/

On 4/25/07, Tom Gosse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Is there any other?

 _

 From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com[mailto:
 videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of wallythewonderdog
 Sent: Wednesday, 25 April, 2007 11:49 AM
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

 Yeah, I vote for Montreal.
 You are talking about the one in Canada, right?


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-25 Thread Jen Simmons
DC

1) Cause it's not San Fran / LA / Hollywood and at this moment,  
having Vloggercon in one of those places = being dominated by the  
mass media corporations. I like that this has been a community-led  
movement, and hope the choice of Vloggercon location / size /  
sponsors / leadership / etc can all reflect the history of the group  
and promote the same values. Let's not make it easy for it to be all  
L.A. folks.

2) Jay and Scholmo want DC, and I want their leadership and history  
and generosity and etc to have some say here. Not all the say --  
that's the cool thing about this group, that it's not been / is not  
dominated by a few Cool Kids -- but still it's Jay, people!

Plus Washington DC is my hometown. And the monuments are beautiful.  
And the museums are all free. And it's cheaper than freakin New York.  
And it is a BIG election year.


-- Jen




On Apr 25, 2007, at 12:38 pm, Jay dedman wrote:

  I'd like to throw Washington DC in the ring as a possible venue for
  Vloggercon 2007.
  So far we've had NYC (The Culture/Finance/Media capital), Bay Area
  (The Tech capital), why not do vloggercon in the political capital?
  Imagine combining Vloggercon with visits to your lawmakers, interest
  groups, and such and vlogging those visits?
  The election cycle is going to add a bunch of energy to this town  
 too,
  and we can feed off and into that energy.
  Washington DC is all about communication. Every major interest group
  in the country has a presence here. Maybe it makes sense for DIY  
 media
  makers to have their voice heard here too. Maybe there are some  
 issues
  that we hold in common, perhaps around intellectual property, net
  neutrality, shield laws, broadband access? If so, a collective voice
  beats a solitary voice.

 Jonny and I talked about holding Vloggercon in DC.
 Its great on several levels.
 --Its central and easy to fly into.
 --it'd be a surprise because its not a common place to hold a bleeding
 edge, community tech conference
 --DC is getting more and more attention as the 2008 US elections keeps
 heating up. A grassroots media conference is perfect for this mix.
 --we're right in the heart of the FCC where decisions on Net
 Neutrality are being decided
 --I imagine 300 vloggers running around the Capitol steps with
 cameras. especially the new Nokias where you can upload to the web
 immediately.

 im for DC.

 jay

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RE: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-25 Thread Charles Hope
I would like NYC even if especially to AVOID dreary politicos trying to
elbow their way in and hijack publicity. My hope for the political
impact of videoblogging revolves more around creating alternate centers
of attention, and less around helping establishment celebrities peddle
bread and circuses.

 

 -Original Message-
 From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Devlon Duthie
 Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 13:53
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007
 
 I third it.
 
 Thanks,
 Devlon
 
 
 
 David Howell wrote:
  I second NYC.
 
  David
  http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk, Wreck  Salvage
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  1 vote for NYC
 
  On 4/25/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  I've got an idea.  Democracy!
 

 

 
 
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-25 Thread Michael Verdi
The problem with NYC is that it's nearly impossible/way too expensive to
find room for more than 100 people. That's a big reason why we switched it
to San Francisco last time.
- Verdi

On 4/25/07, missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   One would think that I'd vote for NYC for reasons of convenience (and
 also because I guess New York is, I don't know, sort of cool if you're
 into that sort of thing) but I think I'll have to say DC because it's
 still reasonably easy to get to from all over, it's a nifty city and
 it simply HAS to be cheaper...

 ...it's cheaper, right? Because if it isn't, I'm changing my vote back
 to NYC.

 Can't I just vote for the East Coast in general?

 Bekah

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Adam Quirk, Wreck  Salvage
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  1 vote for NYC
 
  On 4/25/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   I've got an idea. Democracy!
  
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-25 Thread Adam Quirk, Wreck Salvage
Could talk to Eric Skiff and Chris Brogan, see how they managed to get the
New Yorker for PodCampNYC. A mixture of donations and sponsorships, I'm
pretty sure.

That said, I can help out, but I can't plan it.  I have too much other stuff
going on, so if people in DC have the resources and the time and energy to
plan it out, I'll go there.  Same for any other city within reason (cheap
airfare from hubs).

I will say though that if NYC is voted for, I have a pretty good space for a
party.  I'll donate my loft and roof for a pre or post vcon barbecue.  House
parties are lots cheaper than bar parties.  $10 a head times 100 people or
so buys a good amount of food and drinks.

If NYC isn't voted in, we're throwing a Vloggercue here anyway.  June 23rd
is the date a few of us have agreed upon, so mark your calendars regardless.

On 4/25/07, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The problem with NYC is that it's nearly impossible/way too expensive to
 find room for more than 100 people. That's a big reason why we switched it
 to San Francisco last time.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-25 Thread Jay dedman
 I would like NYC even if especially to AVOID dreary politicos trying to
  elbow their way in and hijack publicity. My hope for the political
  impact of videoblogging revolves more around creating alternate centers
  of attention, and less around helping establishment celebrities peddle
  bread and circuses.

Charles, you nut job.
haha, NYC is your idea of an alternative center of attention?

come on...we've had vloggercon is nyc before.
its super expensive.
try finding an affordable venue for 500 people.
instead of politicos crashing out party in DC, we would have all the
web 2.0 wannabes crashing our party.

In DC, at least we can create the frame for how we see the events around us.
we can also help show the power of what we are doing by telling
stories differently.

for me, vloggercon is not just for all of us to get togetherbut to
keep infecting new communities with our ideas. we started in NYC, we
spread it in San Francisco, ..

jay





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Re: -Spampost.com-Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-25 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
Den 25.04.2007 kl. 21:48 skrev Jen Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 2) Jay and Scholmo want DC, and I want their leadership and history
 and generosity and etc to have some say here. Not all the say --
 that's the cool thing about this group, that it's not been / is not
 dominated by a few Cool Kids -- but still it's Jay, people!

+1

Not that I'm likely to be able to go if it's going to be before September  
1st. DC is significantly cheaper to fly to than anywhere further west  
(except Chicago)... and there are direct flights from Copenhagen. :o)

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-25 Thread Rupert
It'll take months to set up, anyway, so I doubt it'd happen this  
summer - so prob not b4 Sept 1st.

Here's a wacky idea: how about we do it in DC in the fall, and have  
the Vloggies on the Saturday night?  If those nice Vloggies people  
want to organize an event on the other side of the country? ;)

Organizational MADNESS

But on a selfish level, I'd be able to justify coming if both were  
together!

Rupert

On 25 Apr 2007, at 22:05, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote:

Den 25.04.2007 kl. 21:48 skrev Jen Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  2) Jay and Scholmo want DC, and I want their leadership and history
  and generosity and etc to have some say here. Not all the say --
  that's the cool thing about this group, that it's not been / is not
  dominated by a few Cool Kids -- but still it's Jay, people!

+1

Not that I'm likely to be able to go if it's going to be before  
September
1st. DC is significantly cheaper to fly to than anywhere further west
(except Chicago)... and there are direct flights from Copenhagen. :o)

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-25 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Wow!... I had no idea it cost that much.

On 4/25/07, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Den 25.04.2007 kl. 19:55 skrev Charles Iliya Krempeaux
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

   I vote for Vancouver too.

  Before the rest of the Canadians come out I would like to point out the
  same thing I pointed out the last time it came up: A flight from a random
  European capital (ie. Copenhagen) to Vancouver is *four* times as
  expensive as a ticket on the same dates to DC. How many out-of-continent
  people are likely to drop over 3000 USD for a plane ticket? Not me.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-25 Thread j coffey
I like the East Coast too.! Anything with an Amtrak station and I guess that 
includes Montreal!
  John
  www.jchtv.com
  
missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  One would think that I'd vote for NYC for reasons of convenience (and
also because I guess New York is, I don't know, sort of cool if you're
into that sort of thing) but I think I'll have to say DC because it's
still reasonably easy to get to from all over, it's a nifty city and
it simply HAS to be cheaper...

...it's cheaper, right? Because if it isn't, I'm changing my vote back
to NYC.

Can't I just vote for the East Coast in general?

Bekah

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk, Wreck  Salvage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 1 vote for NYC
 
 On 4/25/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-25 Thread carlos
hey people,

i'm not too vocal in this group but i do read as many posts as i'm able
and have gleaned much tech-knowledge from this group that i've been
incorporating into the education program at the public access station in
brooklyn, ny where i work (http://bcat.tv/bcat/default.asp).

i also participated in the recent videoblogging week, vlogging
here,http://seelosurbanista.blogspot.com/
i'm trying to post more often and was able to get one clip since vlbog
week up about the graffiti research lab's demo of laser taggin' at pratt.

you are an inspiring group and i hope to meet many of you during the
upcoming vloggercon. as a new yorker, i'm leaning to my hometown but given
the impact this technology has had on the political process (check here
for how van jones put it during the past national conference for media
reform in memphis, http://youtube.com/watch?v=n2z6nOOO-2Y) and my media
activist roots thrill to the idea of resistance on the streets of dc (and
what's vlogging but defiance in the face of corporatized comunication) i'm
putting my vote for ***DC***

getting off his soapbox  thankful for the franchise :)

paz,
carlos



 I like the East Coast too.! Anything with an Amtrak station and I guess
that includes Montreal!
   John
   www.jchtv.com

 missbhavens1969 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   One would think that I'd vote for NYC for reasons of
convenience
 (and
 also because I guess New York is, I don't know, sort of cool if you're
into that sort of thing) but I think I'll have to say DC because it's
still reasonably easy to get to from all over, it's a nifty city and it
simply HAS to be cheaper...

 ...it's cheaper, right? Because if it isn't, I'm changing my vote back
to NYC.

 Can't I just vote for the East Coast in general?

 Bekah

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk, Wreck  Salvage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 1 vote for NYC
 On 4/25/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-25 Thread Nathan Miller
My vote - DC...

Depending on the date there is a small chance I could
make it this year...

I sure would like to...

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fukuoka japan
www.bicycle-sidewalk.com


Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-25 Thread Jonathan Bloom
Have any of you tried bargain shopping? When I went to VON we did some
bargain shopping and found great hotel/car rental/and airfare. It takes a
little bit, but trying different sites and deals can lead you to some good
prices.

On 4/25/07, Carl Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hi, folks. I have to go with the DC vote on this one. I think it's one
 of
 the greatest places in the country to visit and I live here. It's not
 super
 expensive, it's the south, or just north of it, so it's warm most of the
 year, it's easy to get to, visitor-friendly, and best of all it's got an
 energy and a level f excitement other cities I have spent considerable
 time
 in simply do not have. Plus there's all the tourist stuff, free museums,
 more Ethiopian restaurants than you can shake a stick at and simply some
 really great people.

 We have a large and growing community of videobloggers here and, although
 Steve G. may take issue with this, I think we rival the size and
 enthusiasm
 of the Boston group. It's been a lot of fun to see the group grow as it
 has,
 and quickly too. just six months ago or so, Andy Carvin, Jonny Goldstein
 and
 I met at our first DCMM meeting in a bar at Dupont Circle and now we have
 a
 rather large group of talented, energetic people.

 Plus you can crash in my guest room. Well, one or two of you can, anyway.
 And I make a hell of a breakfast.

 Carl
 carlweaver.blogspot.com

 Carl Weaver
 Photographer
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 http://www.camerasamurai.com
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-25 Thread Chris Daniel
Ok.. I've got to backup the DC idea.  I've mentioned this as an option
before.  I think there was even a notion at last yr's vloggercon to have '07
in DC, if I remember correctly?

Chalk up another vote for DC!  It's a great location.


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On 4/25/07, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Well, Waiting for Schlomo killed this thread faster than you can say
 'Beckett'.

 I've got an idea. Democracy! We have 2 very kind  cool groups of
 people very willing to organise in Boston and in DC and at
 BarcampUSA. So it's really about which people would prefer. We need
 some urgency - it's already the end of April, and we started
 discussing it in January.

 How about everybody who has a preference for either Boston or DC or
 BarcampUSA emails this list simply stating their preference, and we
 count the votes at the end of next week? It'll be a hell of a
 thread, but at least it'll be one vlogger, one vote :)

 Rupert
 http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/

 On 16 Apr 2007, at 08:54, Irina wrote:

 guys, dont get too excited till schlomo gives the go-ahead

 On 4/15/07, RANDY MANN [EMAIL PROTECTED] themaddmann%40gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  if you plan it they will come
 
  i started to look into venues for boston, got some leads. just
 need some
  sponsors for booking deposets.
 
  On 4/15/07, Jim Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] newmediajim%40yahoo.com
 newmediajim%40yahoo.com
  wrote:
  
   I'd like to second the motion made by my esteemed colleague Mr.
   Goldstein, the gentleman from DC. Do we have a quorom? Would
 Speaker of
  the
   House Andy Carvin care to weigh in on this?
  
  
   - Original Message 
   From: Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] enric%40cirne.com enric%40cirne.com
 enric%
 40cirne.com
   To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
   videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%

 40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:59:33 PM
   Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007
  
   Find a place and sponsors.
  
   ;)
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
   videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%

 40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
   jonny goldstein
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
I'd like to throw Washington DC in the ring as a possible
 venue for
Vloggercon 2007.
   
So far we've had NYC (The Culture/Finance/Media capital), Bay
 Area
(The Tech capital), why not do vloggercon in the political
 capital?
Imagine combining Vloggercon with visits to your lawmakers,
 interest
groups, and such and vlogging those visits?
   
The election cycle is going to add a bunch of energy to this
 town too,
and we can feed off and into that energy.
   
Washington DC is all about communication. Every major interest
 group
in the country has a presence here. Maybe it makes sense for
 DIY media
makers to have their voice heard here too. Maybe there are
 some issues
that we hold in common, perhaps around intellectual property, net
neutrality, shield laws, broadband access? If so, a collective
 voice
beats a solitary voice.
   
I'm sure there are lots of great places to hold vloggercon, I
 just
want to make a case for DC. We have an expanding community of
 vloggers
on the ground here who I'm sure would be happy to help out in the
organizing and running of the event. I certainly would love to
 help
  out.
   
OK, that's my pitch. What do people think?
   
   
   
   
--- In 
videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%

 40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 
   Rupert rupert@ wrote:

 What's the most recent plan for this? Last I heard here (just
 searched) it was going to be in Boston in the Summer, and
 not merged
 with BarCampUSA. Is that right? Still on? Any definite plans?

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 http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-16 Thread Irina
guys, dont get too excited till schlomo gives the go-ahead

On 4/15/07, RANDY MANN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   if you plan it they will come

 i started to look into venues for boston, got some leads. just need some
 sponsors for booking deposets.

 On 4/15/07, Jim Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] newmediajim%40yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  I'd like to second the motion made by my esteemed colleague Mr.
  Goldstein, the gentleman from DC. Do we have a quorom? Would Speaker of
 the
  House Andy Carvin care to weigh in on this?
 
 
  - Original Message 
  From: Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] enric%40cirne.com enric%40cirne.com
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:59:33 PM
  Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007
 
  Find a place and sponsors.
 
  ;)
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
  jonny goldstein
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I'd like to throw Washington DC in the ring as a possible venue for
   Vloggercon 2007.
  
   So far we've had NYC (The Culture/Finance/Media capital), Bay Area
   (The Tech capital), why not do vloggercon in the political capital?
   Imagine combining Vloggercon with visits to your lawmakers, interest
   groups, and such and vlogging those visits?
  
   The election cycle is going to add a bunch of energy to this town too,
   and we can feed off and into that energy.
  
   Washington DC is all about communication. Every major interest group
   in the country has a presence here. Maybe it makes sense for DIY media
   makers to have their voice heard here too. Maybe there are some issues
   that we hold in common, perhaps around intellectual property, net
   neutrality, shield laws, broadband access? If so, a collective voice
   beats a solitary voice.
  
   I'm sure there are lots of great places to hold vloggercon, I just
   want to make a case for DC. We have an expanding community of vloggers
   on the ground here who I'm sure would be happy to help out in the
   organizing and running of the event. I certainly would love to help
 out.
  
   OK, that's my pitch. What do people think?
  
  
  
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
   videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,

  Rupert rupert@ wrote:
   
What's the most recent plan for this? Last I heard here (just
searched) it was going to be in Boston in the Summer, and not merged
with BarCampUSA. Is that right? Still on? Any definite plans?
   
Rupert
http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/
http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/
http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/
   
   
   
   
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-15 Thread Jim Long
I'd like to second the motion made by my esteemed colleague Mr. Goldstein, the 
gentleman from DC.  Do we have a quorom? Would Speaker of the House Andy Carvin 
care to weigh in on this?

- Original Message 
From: Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:59:33 PM
Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

Find a place and sponsors.

  ;)

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jonny goldstein
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'd like to throw Washington DC in the ring as a possible venue for
 Vloggercon 2007.
 
 So far we've had NYC (The Culture/Finance/Media capital), Bay Area
 (The Tech capital), why not do vloggercon in the political capital?
 Imagine combining Vloggercon with  visits to your lawmakers, interest
 groups, and such and vlogging those visits?
 
 The election cycle is going to add a bunch of energy to this town too,
 and we can feed off and into that energy.
 
 Washington DC is all about communication. Every major interest group
 in the country has a presence here. Maybe it makes sense for DIY media
 makers to have their voice heard here too. Maybe there are some issues
 that we hold in common, perhaps around intellectual property, net
 neutrality, shield laws, broadband access? If so, a collective voice
 beats a solitary voice.
 
 I'm sure there are lots of great places to hold vloggercon, I just
 want to make a case for DC. We have an expanding community of vloggers
 on the ground here who I'm sure would be happy to help out in the
 organizing and running of the event. I certainly would love to help out.
 
 OK, that's my pitch. What do people think?
 
 
 
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote:
 
  What's the most recent plan for this?  Last I heard here (just  
  searched) it was going to be in Boston in the Summer, and not merged  
  with BarCampUSA.  Is that right?  Still on?  Any definite plans?
  
  Rupert
  http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/
  http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/
  http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/
  
  
  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

2007-04-15 Thread RANDY MANN
if you plan it they will come

i started to look into venues for boston, got some leads. just need some
sponsors for booking deposets.

On 4/15/07, Jim Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I'd like to second the motion made by my esteemed colleague Mr.
 Goldstein, the gentleman from DC. Do we have a quorom? Would Speaker of the
 House Andy Carvin care to weigh in on this?


 - Original Message 
 From: Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] enric%40cirne.com
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:59:33 PM
 Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Vloggercon 2007

 Find a place and sponsors.

 ;)

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 jonny goldstein
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'd like to throw Washington DC in the ring as a possible venue for
  Vloggercon 2007.
 
  So far we've had NYC (The Culture/Finance/Media capital), Bay Area
  (The Tech capital), why not do vloggercon in the political capital?
  Imagine combining Vloggercon with visits to your lawmakers, interest
  groups, and such and vlogging those visits?
 
  The election cycle is going to add a bunch of energy to this town too,
  and we can feed off and into that energy.
 
  Washington DC is all about communication. Every major interest group
  in the country has a presence here. Maybe it makes sense for DIY media
  makers to have their voice heard here too. Maybe there are some issues
  that we hold in common, perhaps around intellectual property, net
  neutrality, shield laws, broadband access? If so, a collective voice
  beats a solitary voice.
 
  I'm sure there are lots of great places to hold vloggercon, I just
  want to make a case for DC. We have an expanding community of vloggers
  on the ground here who I'm sure would be happy to help out in the
  organizing and running of the event. I certainly would love to help out.
 
  OK, that's my pitch. What do people think?
 
 
 
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Rupert rupert@ wrote:
  
   What's the most recent plan for this? Last I heard here (just
   searched) it was going to be in Boston in the Summer, and not merged
   with BarCampUSA. Is that right? Still on? Any definite plans?
  
   Rupert
   http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/
   http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/
   http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/
  
  
  
  
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