Re: [videoblogging] Re: Youtube supports HTML5 (No more Flash?)

2010-02-02 Thread Jan McLaughlin
There's an interesting discussion about Flash, .h264, iPad, etc. on a recent
TWIT:

http://aolradio.podcast.aol.com/twit/twit0233.mp3

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On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:59 PM, proctorjen proctor...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Vimeo has also added an HTML5 player (though they intend to keep it as a
 companion to Flash):

 http://vimeo.com/blog:268

 Jen

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.ded...@... wrote:
 
  We've mentioned rumors before, but here it is:
  http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/youtube_begins_to_support_html5.php
 
  An HTML5 video player will allow videos to be viewed without Adobe's
   Flashplayer plug-in, videos will load faster and developers will be
 able to
   build all kinds of other intriguing features into a media delivery
 scheme
   based on the next version of HTML.
   For now users will need to sign-up the HTML5 preview on Test Tube and
   they'll need to be using either Chrome, Safari or the Chrome frame in
 IE.
  
   The biggest benefit of HTML5 support is that it frees users from the
 need
   to use proprietary plug-ins like Flash player or Microsoft's
 Silverlight by
   using a simple bit of code to render video. (Note this caveat regarding
 the
   lack of codec consensus, however.) If you've used Google's Chrome much,
   you've probably seen how often Flash player crashes in that browser.
 Firefox
   doesn't deal with Flash well, either.
  
 
  Here's how I understand it: If Google does it right, you wont notice the
  difference. Video will be beautiful and lovely online. But for developers
  and creators, the options will multiply because we wont be stuck fucking
  with the constraints of Flash players.
 
  Flash has helped make watching online video easy. Its done its job,
 thanks.
  Now go sit in the corner with Real Audio.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Youtube supports HTML5 (No more Flash?)

2010-01-21 Thread Joly MacFie
There's a lot of legacy flash content - youtube included.

j

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:54 PM, elbowsofdeath st...@dvmachine.com wrote:

 Flash could be largely gone from the web in 3-10 years

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Youtube supports HTML5 (No more Flash?)

2010-01-21 Thread Jay dedman
As with posts in the past I still question how ogg will ever dominate video if 
its only advantage is to do with licensing, as licensing issues with h264 dont 
affect many of us so what is the point really?

This is a good question. Not sure I know the answer.

But why did Firefox gain so much traction, and open up to other free
browers? Explorer was a free to us users. I guess the creative class
wanted more control and ability to customize/play. Feels the same way
now. Developers are excited by HTML5 and ogg/theora because they are
no profit-based restrictions based. We want logic.

But future versions of ogg/theora must be useful and helpful in order
to be succeed.

Jay



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