Re: [videoblogging] Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I Type

2008-11-13 Thread Jay Dedman
Can you be more specific about their approach or lack of understanding?

Jay



On Nov 13, 2008, at 7:01 AM, Jeffrey Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:

 I'm currently at the Monaco Media Forum, watching Michael Wolff  
 interview
 Ben Silverman of NBC/Universal and the Director-General of the BBC.

 These guys don't get it. At all. It's all top down. They have know  
 idea
 what's out there, and they really can't be arsed to look.

 I am so pissed off right now.

 Discuss.

 -- 
 Jeffrey Taylor
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 Fax: +33177722734
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Re: [videoblogging] Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I Type

2008-11-13 Thread thejeffreytaylor
They're totally ignoring all the great content that's out there by independent 
producers. Direct quote from Silverman: we don't want cat pissing in toilet 
videos associated with our brand. and only we can do something like heroes.
-Original Message-
From: Jay Dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:52:58 
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Cc: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I 
Type


Can you be more specific about their approach or lack of understanding?

Jay



On Nov 13, 2008, at 7:01 AM, Jeffrey Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:

 I'm currently at the Monaco Media Forum, watching Michael Wolff  
 interview
 Ben Silverman of NBC/Universal and the Director-General of the BBC.

 These guys don't get it. At all. It's all top down. They have know  
 idea
 what's out there, and they really can't be arsed to look.

 I am so pissed off right now.

 Discuss.

 -- 
 Jeffrey Taylor
 Mobile: +33625497654
 Fax: +33177722734
 Skype: thejeffreytaylor
 Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor

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Re: [videoblogging] Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I Type

2008-11-13 Thread Rupert
Nothing I ever hear about TV executives' approach to the internet  
ever gives me any hope.  Apparently, none of them ever use the  
internet.  And if they do, they're so busy being threatened that they  
adopt a confused and contemptuous attitude before they've even  
clicked on the first video.

I read two great posts by Steve Bowbrick yesterday about trying to  
change this mindset at the BBC.

He's blogger in residence for six months at the BBC.  Which is a  
great idea - someone from outside to blog about life inside.

First, his thoughts about how and why they need to move on from the  
broadcast mindset.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/11/ 
moving_on_from_the_broadcast_e.html

But more importantly for you to read out there in hell, Jeffrey:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bowbrick/2958508580/

A whiteboard image of the obstacles to sharing with typical  
reactions in quotes just like those you just repeated from  
Silverman.  The obstacles are grouped under Rights; Culture;  
Expectations; Competitive Instincts; Regulation.

The quotes associated with the obstacles are:
Rights: Impossible to untangle
Expectations: It'll just be a bunch of pornographers
Culture: We don't do that sort of thing
Competitive Instincts: We compete in primetime - why should we  
cooperate here
Regulation: They'll never let us do that

Rupert
http://twittervlog.tv


On 13-Nov-08, at 5:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

They're totally ignoring all the great content that's out there by  
independent producers. Direct quote from Silverman: we don't want  
cat pissing in toilet videos associated with our brand. and only we  
can do something like heroes.
-Original Message-
From: Jay Dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:52:58
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Cc: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of  
me As I Type


Can you be more specific about their approach or lack of understanding?

Jay



On Nov 13, 2008, at 7:01 AM, Jeffrey Taylor  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:

  I'm currently at the Monaco Media Forum, watching Michael Wolff
  interview
  Ben Silverman of NBC/Universal and the Director-General of the BBC.
 
  These guys don't get it. At all. It's all top down. They have know
  idea
  what's out there, and they really can't be arsed to look.
 
  I am so pissed off right now.
 
  Discuss.
 
  --
  Jeffrey Taylor
  Mobile: +33625497654
  Fax: +33177722734
  Skype: thejeffreytaylor
  Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I Type

2008-11-13 Thread Jeffrey Taylor
It's just infuriating. Just plain infuriating. Both these top executives
have massive, multi-purpose staff and they''re STILL in a bubble. NBC is
starting a digital studio instead of cutting a deal with the
well-established Epic-Fu franchise.  It just steams me up.




2008/11/13 Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Nothing I ever hear about TV executives' approach to the internet
 ever gives me any hope. Apparently, none of them ever use the
 internet. And if they do, they're so busy being threatened that they
 adopt a confused and contemptuous attitude before they've even
 clicked on the first video.

 I read two great posts by Steve Bowbrick yesterday about trying to
 change this mindset at the BBC.

 He's blogger in residence for six months at the BBC. Which is a
 great idea - someone from outside to blog about life inside.

 First, his thoughts about how and why they need to move on from the
 broadcast mindset.
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/11/
 moving_on_from_the_broadcast_e.html

 But more importantly for you to read out there in hell, Jeffrey:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bowbrick/2958508580/

 A whiteboard image of the obstacles to sharing with typical
 reactions in quotes just like those you just repeated from
 Silverman. The obstacles are grouped under Rights; Culture;
 Expectations; Competitive Instincts; Regulation.

 The quotes associated with the obstacles are:
 Rights: Impossible to untangle
 Expectations: It'll just be a bunch of pornographers
 Culture: We don't do that sort of thing
 Competitive Instincts: We compete in primetime - why should we
 cooperate here
 Regulation: They'll never let us do that

 Rupert
 http://twittervlog.tv


 On 13-Nov-08, at 5:01 AM, [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.comwrote:

 They're totally ignoring all the great content that's out there by
 independent producers. Direct quote from Silverman: we don't want
 cat pissing in toilet videos associated with our brand. and only we
 can do something like heroes.
 -Original Message-
 From: Jay Dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] jay.dedman%40gmail.com

 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:52:58
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
 videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
 Cc: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
 videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of
 me As I Type

 Can you be more specific about their approach or lack of understanding?

 Jay

 On Nov 13, 2008, at 7:01 AM, Jeffrey Taylor
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.com
  wrote:

  I'm currently at the Monaco Media Forum, watching Michael Wolff
  interview
  Ben Silverman of NBC/Universal and the Director-General of the BBC.
 
  These guys don't get it. At all. It's all top down. They have know
  idea
  what's out there, and they really can't be arsed to look.
 
  I am so pissed off right now.
 
  Discuss.
 
  --
  Jeffrey Taylor
  Mobile: +33625497654
  Fax: +33177722734
  Skype: thejeffreytaylor
  Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.com
  http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I Type

2008-11-13 Thread Rupert
They come from a different culture, and are almost certainly entirely  
surrounded by yes men and people who are similarly uninformed.   The  
good thing about physical conferences is that you're sharing the same  
room. You've got nothing to lose by fighting to get to the front and  
telling them.

On 13-Nov-08, at 6:49 AM, Jeffrey Taylor wrote:

It's just infuriating. Just plain infuriating. Both these top executives
have massive, multi-purpose staff and they''re STILL in a bubble. NBC is
starting a digital studio instead of cutting a deal with the
well-established Epic-Fu franchise. It just steams me up.

2008/11/13 Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Nothing I ever hear about TV executives' approach to the internet
  ever gives me any hope. Apparently, none of them ever use the
  internet. And if they do, they're so busy being threatened that they
  adopt a confused and contemptuous attitude before they've even
  clicked on the first video.
 
  I read two great posts by Steve Bowbrick yesterday about trying to
  change this mindset at the BBC.
 
  He's blogger in residence for six months at the BBC. Which is a
  great idea - someone from outside to blog about life inside.
 
  First, his thoughts about how and why they need to move on from the
  broadcast mindset.
  http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/11/
  moving_on_from_the_broadcast_e.html
 
  But more importantly for you to read out there in hell, Jeffrey:
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/bowbrick/2958508580/
 
  A whiteboard image of the obstacles to sharing with typical
  reactions in quotes just like those you just repeated from
  Silverman. The obstacles are grouped under Rights; Culture;
  Expectations; Competitive Instincts; Regulation.
 
  The quotes associated with the obstacles are:
  Rights: Impossible to untangle
  Expectations: It'll just be a bunch of pornographers
  Culture: We don't do that sort of thing
  Competitive Instincts: We compete in primetime - why should we
  cooperate here
  Regulation: They'll never let us do that
 
  Rupert
  http://twittervlog.tv
 
 
  On 13-Nov-08, at 5:01 AM,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.comwrote:
 
  They're totally ignoring all the great content that's out there by
  independent producers. Direct quote from Silverman: we don't want
  cat pissing in toilet videos associated with our brand. and only we
  can do something like heroes.
  -Original Message-
  From: Jay Dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] jay.dedman%40gmail.com
 
  Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:52:58
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
  videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
  Cc: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
  videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of
  me As I Type
 
  Can you be more specific about their approach or lack of  
understanding?
 
  Jay
 
  On Nov 13, 2008, at 7:01 AM, Jeffrey Taylor
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.com
   wrote:
 
   I'm currently at the Monaco Media Forum, watching Michael Wolff
   interview
   Ben Silverman of NBC/Universal and the Director-General of the BBC.
  
   These guys don't get it. At all. It's all top down. They have know
   idea
   what's out there, and they really can't be arsed to look.
  
   I am so pissed off right now.
  
   Discuss.
  
   --
   Jeffrey Taylor
   Mobile: +33625497654
   Fax: +33177722734
   Skype: thejeffreytaylor
   Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]thejeffreytaylor% 
40gmail.com
   http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I Type

2008-11-13 Thread Jeffrey Taylor
We tried. But Silverman was surrounded by staff the moment he walked off
stage. Strong bubble.

2008/11/13 Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   They come from a different culture, and are almost certainly entirely
 surrounded by yes men and people who are similarly uninformed. The
 good thing about physical conferences is that you're sharing the same
 room. You've got nothing to lose by fighting to get to the front and
 telling them.


 On 13-Nov-08, at 6:49 AM, Jeffrey Taylor wrote:

 It's just infuriating. Just plain infuriating. Both these top executives
 have massive, multi-purpose staff and they''re STILL in a bubble. NBC is
 starting a digital studio instead of cutting a deal with the
 well-established Epic-Fu franchise. It just steams me up.

 2008/11/13 Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] rupert%40fatgirlinohio.org

  Nothing I ever hear about TV executives' approach to the internet
  ever gives me any hope. Apparently, none of them ever use the
  internet. And if they do, they're so busy being threatened that they
  adopt a confused and contemptuous attitude before they've even
  clicked on the first video.
 
  I read two great posts by Steve Bowbrick yesterday about trying to
  change this mindset at the BBC.
 
  He's blogger in residence for six months at the BBC. Which is a
  great idea - someone from outside to blog about life inside.
 
  First, his thoughts about how and why they need to move on from the
  broadcast mindset.
  http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/11/
  moving_on_from_the_broadcast_e.html
 
  But more importantly for you to read out there in hell, Jeffrey:
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/bowbrick/2958508580/
 
  A whiteboard image of the obstacles to sharing with typical
  reactions in quotes just like those you just repeated from
  Silverman. The obstacles are grouped under Rights; Culture;
  Expectations; Competitive Instincts; Regulation.
 
  The quotes associated with the obstacles are:
  Rights: Impossible to untangle
  Expectations: It'll just be a bunch of pornographers
  Culture: We don't do that sort of thing
  Competitive Instincts: We compete in primetime - why should we
  cooperate here
  Regulation: They'll never let us do that
 
  Rupert
  http://twittervlog.tv
 
 
  On 13-Nov-08, at 5:01 AM,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.com
 thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.comwrote:
 
  They're totally ignoring all the great content that's out there by
  independent producers. Direct quote from Silverman: we don't want
  cat pissing in toilet videos associated with our brand. and only we
  can do something like heroes.
  -Original Message-
  From: Jay Dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] jay.dedman%40gmail.comjay.dedman%
 40gmail.com
 
  Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:52:58
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
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 40yahoogroups.com
  videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%
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  Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of
  me As I Type
 
  Can you be more specific about their approach or lack of
 understanding?
 
  Jay
 
  On Nov 13, 2008, at 7:01 AM, Jeffrey Taylor
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.comthejeffreytaylor%
 40gmail.com
   wrote:
 
   I'm currently at the Monaco Media Forum, watching Michael Wolff
   interview
   Ben Silverman of NBC/Universal and the Director-General of the BBC.
  
   These guys don't get it. At all. It's all top down. They have know
   idea
   what's out there, and they really can't be arsed to look.
  
   I am so pissed off right now.
  
   Discuss.
  
   --
   Jeffrey Taylor
   Mobile: +33625497654
   Fax: +33177722734
   Skype: thejeffreytaylor
   Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL 
   PROTECTED]thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.comthejeffreytaylor%

 40gmail.com
   http://twitter.com/jeffreytaylor
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I Type

2008-11-13 Thread Rupert
As Bowbrick says,
The broadcast era is coming to an end. The network era is well under  
way. Only openness can keep the BBC relevant through the transition.
Their loss.

On 13-Nov-08, at 7:06 AM, Jeffrey Taylor wrote:

We tried. But Silverman was surrounded by staff the moment he walked off
stage. Strong bubble.

2008/11/13 Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  They come from a different culture, and are almost certainly entirely
  surrounded by yes men and people who are similarly uninformed. The
  good thing about physical conferences is that you're sharing the same
  room. You've got nothing to lose by fighting to get to the front and
  telling them.
 
 
  On 13-Nov-08, at 6:49 AM, Jeffrey Taylor wrote:
 
  It's just infuriating. Just plain infuriating. Both these top  
executives
  have massive, multi-purpose staff and they''re STILL in a bubble.  
NBC is
  starting a digital studio instead of cutting a deal with the
  well-established Epic-Fu franchise. It just steams me up.
 
  2008/11/13 Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] rupert% 
40fatgirlinohio.org
 
   Nothing I ever hear about TV executives' approach to the internet
   ever gives me any hope. Apparently, none of them ever use the
   internet. And if they do, they're so busy being threatened that  
they
   adopt a confused and contemptuous attitude before they've even
   clicked on the first video.
  
   I read two great posts by Steve Bowbrick yesterday about trying to
   change this mindset at the BBC.
  
   He's blogger in residence for six months at the BBC. Which is a
   great idea - someone from outside to blog about life inside.
  
   First, his thoughts about how and why they need to move on from the
   broadcast mindset.
   http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/11/
   moving_on_from_the_broadcast_e.html
  
   But more importantly for you to read out there in hell, Jeffrey:
   http://www.flickr.com/photos/bowbrick/2958508580/
  
   A whiteboard image of the obstacles to sharing with typical
   reactions in quotes just like those you just repeated from
   Silverman. The obstacles are grouped under Rights; Culture;
   Expectations; Competitive Instincts; Regulation.
  
   The quotes associated with the obstacles are:
   Rights: Impossible to untangle
   Expectations: It'll just be a bunch of pornographers
   Culture: We don't do that sort of thing
   Competitive Instincts: We compete in primetime - why should we
   cooperate here
   Regulation: They'll never let us do that
  
   Rupert
   http://twittervlog.tv
  
  
   On 13-Nov-08, at 5:01 AM,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.com
  thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.comwrote:
  
   They're totally ignoring all the great content that's out there by
   independent producers. Direct quote from Silverman: we don't want
   cat pissing in toilet videos associated with our brand. and  
only we
   can do something like heroes.
   -Original Message-
   From: Jay Dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] jay.dedman% 
40gmail.comjay.dedman%
  40gmail.com
  
   Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:52:58
   To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging% 
40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%
  40yahoogroups.com
   videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging% 
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   Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Traditional Media Scares the Shi*  
out of
   me As I Type
  
   Can you be more specific about their approach or lack of
  understanding?
  
   Jay
  
   On Nov 13, 2008, at 7:01 AM, Jeffrey Taylor
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] thejeffreytaylor% 
40gmail.comthejeffreytaylor%
  40gmail.com
wrote:
  
I'm currently at the Monaco Media Forum, watching Michael Wolff
interview
Ben Silverman of NBC/Universal and the Director-General of the  
BBC.
   
These guys don't get it. At all. It's all top down. They have  
know
idea
what's out there, and they really can't be arsed to look.
   
I am so pissed off right now.
   
Discuss.
   
--
Jeffrey Taylor
Mobile: +33625497654
Fax: +33177722734
Skype: thejeffreytaylor
Googlechat/Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]thejeffreytaylor% 
40gmail.comthejeffreytaylor%
 
  40gmail.com
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Re: [videoblogging] Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I Type

2008-11-13 Thread Jeffrey Taylor
Sidenote on the Beeb: French  Saunders had their last performance a few
nights ago. Among the many reasons they cited for ending their partnership
was increasing frustration with the BBC's lack of courage and freedom, going
for safe populist comedy programming in answer to competition from
satellite channels.

2008/11/13 Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   As Bowbrick says,
 The broadcast era is coming to an end. The network era is well under
 way. Only openness can keep the BBC relevant through the transition.
 Their loss.


 On 13-Nov-08, at 7:06 AM, Jeffrey Taylor wrote:

 We tried. But Silverman was surrounded by staff the moment he walked off
 stage. Strong bubble.

 2008/11/13 Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] rupert%40fatgirlinohio.org

  They come from a different culture, and are almost certainly entirely
  surrounded by yes men and people who are similarly uninformed. The
  good thing about physical conferences is that you're sharing the same
  room. You've got nothing to lose by fighting to get to the front and
  telling them.
 
 
  On 13-Nov-08, at 6:49 AM, Jeffrey Taylor wrote:
 
  It's just infuriating. Just plain infuriating. Both these top
 executives
  have massive, multi-purpose staff and they''re STILL in a bubble.
 NBC is
  starting a digital studio instead of cutting a deal with the
  well-established Epic-Fu franchise. It just steams me up.
 
  2008/11/13 Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] rupert%40fatgirlinohio.orgrupert%
 40fatgirlinohio.org

 
   Nothing I ever hear about TV executives' approach to the internet
   ever gives me any hope. Apparently, none of them ever use the
   internet. And if they do, they're so busy being threatened that
 they
   adopt a confused and contemptuous attitude before they've even
   clicked on the first video.
  
   I read two great posts by Steve Bowbrick yesterday about trying to
   change this mindset at the BBC.
  
   He's blogger in residence for six months at the BBC. Which is a
   great idea - someone from outside to blog about life inside.
  
   First, his thoughts about how and why they need to move on from the
   broadcast mindset.
   http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/11/
   moving_on_from_the_broadcast_e.html
  
   But more importantly for you to read out there in hell, Jeffrey:
   http://www.flickr.com/photos/bowbrick/2958508580/
  
   A whiteboard image of the obstacles to sharing with typical
   reactions in quotes just like those you just repeated from
   Silverman. The obstacles are grouped under Rights; Culture;
   Expectations; Competitive Instincts; Regulation.
  
   The quotes associated with the obstacles are:
   Rights: Impossible to untangle
   Expectations: It'll just be a bunch of pornographers
   Culture: We don't do that sort of thing
   Competitive Instincts: We compete in primetime - why should we
   cooperate here
   Regulation: They'll never let us do that
  
   Rupert
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   They're totally ignoring all the great content that's out there by
   independent producers. Direct quote from Silverman: we don't want
   cat pissing in toilet videos associated with our brand. and
 only we
   can do something like heroes.
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   Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Traditional Media Scares the Shi*
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   me As I Type
  
   Can you be more specific about their approach or lack of
  understanding?
  
   Jay
  
   On Nov 13, 2008, at 7:01 AM, Jeffrey Taylor
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I'm currently at the Monaco Media Forum, watching Michael Wolff
interview
Ben Silverman of NBC/Universal and the Director-General of the
 BBC.
   
These guys don't get it. At all. It's all top down. They have
 know
idea
what's out there, and they really can't be arsed to look.
   
I am so pissed off right now.
   
Discuss.
   
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Re: [videoblogging] Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I Type

2008-11-13 Thread @sull
I'd venture to say that NBC could start a digital studio AND cut a deal with
the
well-established net shows, if they wanted to.  And maybe they do.


On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Jeffrey Taylor
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   It's just infuriating. Just plain infuriating. Both these top executives
 have massive, multi-purpose staff and they''re STILL in a bubble. NBC is
 starting a digital studio instead of cutting a deal with the
 well-established Epic-Fu franchise. It just steams me up.



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Re: [videoblogging] Traditional Media Scares the Shi* out of me As I Type

2008-11-13 Thread Jeffrey Taylor
No, they don't. Silverman explicitly stated he wouldn't. I hope he saw me
*facepalm*, because it was the only communication I could get in.

2008/11/13 @sull [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   I'd venture to say that NBC could start a digital studio AND cut a deal
 with
 the
 well-established net shows, if they wanted to. And maybe they do.

 On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Jeffrey Taylor
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] thejeffreytaylor%40gmail.comwrote:

  It's just infuriating. Just plain infuriating. Both these top executives
  have massive, multi-purpose staff and they''re STILL in a bubble. NBC is
  starting a digital studio instead of cutting a deal with the
  well-established Epic-Fu franchise. It just steams me up.
 

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