Re: [videoblogging] bad Western Digital Hardrives?

2007-11-13 Thread Brook Hinton
There is no such thing as a truly reliable external firewire drive,
sadly. Though I've had better luck with LaCies then with some other
brands.

Laptop users remember!

TURN ON THE COMPUTER BEFORE CONNECTING THE DRIVE
TURN ON THE DRIVE (if that's an option) BEFORE CONNECTING
CONNECT AND WAIT FOR MOUNTING before launching FCP or whatever.
EJECT/DISMOUNT the drive before disconnecting the most important one
DISCONNECT before shutting down, sleeping.

And remember FW400 connectors are super super fragile despite their
appearance. Plug and unplug carefully. Pull straight out/push straight
in. This goes for the little camera ports too.

Most drive failures come from repeated live disconnects and
shutdowns. The next culprit in line is bent/tweaked firewire ports,
then burned out firewire ports.

(of course there are variations other will swear by, but the dismount
before disconnect or shutdown/sleep is absolutely crucial to getting
any longevity out of the drive at all).

Brook


p.s. the best advice: switch to eSATA as soon as you can.
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Re: [videoblogging] bad Western Digital Hardrives?

2007-11-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've lost MANY Lacie drives and when I walked up to the VP of  
Marketing for Lacie at Macworld and told him his answer was, It's  
only a matter of time until one of our drives fails. 

I then walked over to the G-Tech booth and I have been very happy  
with the G-Raid products ever since.

I have 25 G-Tech drives. The other day I thought one of them had gone  
down on me but then I noticed it wasn't plugged in to the AC outlet.



Tim

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On Nov 13, 2007, at 7:22 AM, John Coffey wrote:

 I think I read either here or on Twitter that Bill
 Streeter had 3 harddrives go bad last week. I'm
 starting to find that my Western Digital WD HD's don't
 show up on the desktop. And one of them had smoke
 coming out like a toaster. Any other thoughts on these
 always on sale at Best Buy clunkers. I'm gonna spend
 the $ on reliable LaCie.
 John

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Re: [videoblogging] bad Western Digital Hardrives?

2007-11-13 Thread John Coffey
Thanks Brook and I must say, I rarely did any of the
precautions you posted.

--- Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There is no such thing as a truly reliable external
 firewire drive,
 sadly. Though I've had better luck with LaCies then
 with some other
 brands.
 
 Laptop users remember!
 
 TURN ON THE COMPUTER BEFORE CONNECTING THE DRIVE
 TURN ON THE DRIVE (if that's an option) BEFORE
 CONNECTING
 CONNECT AND WAIT FOR MOUNTING before launching FCP
 or whatever.
 EJECT/DISMOUNT the drive before disconnecting the
 most important one
 DISCONNECT before shutting down, sleeping.
 
 And remember FW400 connectors are super super
 fragile despite their
 appearance. Plug and unplug carefully. Pull straight
 out/push straight
 in. This goes for the little camera ports too.
 
 Most drive failures come from repeated live
 disconnects and
 shutdowns. The next culprit in line is bent/tweaked
 firewire ports,
 then burned out firewire ports.
 
 (of course there are variations other will swear by,
 but the dismount
 before disconnect or shutdown/sleep is absolutely
 crucial to getting
 any longevity out of the drive at all).
 
 Brook
 
 
 p.s. the best advice: switch to eSATA as soon as you
 can.

___
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 film/video/audio art
 www.brookhinton.com
 studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab
 


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Re: [videoblogging] bad Western Digital Hardrives?

2007-11-13 Thread John Coffey
Thanks Tim, time to back up many hours of HD Eye TV
content off my Lacie ASAP

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I've lost MANY Lacie drives and when I walked up to
 the VP of  
 Marketing for Lacie at Macworld and told him his
 answer was, It's  
 only a matter of time until one of our drives fails.
 
 
 I then walked over to the G-Tech booth and I have
 been very happy  
 with the G-Raid products ever since.
 
 I have 25 G-Tech drives. The other day I thought one
 of them had gone  
 down on me but then I noticed it wasn't plugged in
 to the AC outlet.
 
 
 
 Tim
 
 Tim Street
 Creator/Executive Producer
 French Maid TV
 The Viral Video of “How To’s” by French Maids
 http://frenchmaidtv.com
 Subscribe for FREE at:
 http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes
 
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 On Nov 13, 2007, at 7:22 AM, John Coffey wrote:
 
  I think I read either here or on Twitter that Bill
  Streeter had 3 harddrives go bad last week. I'm
  starting to find that my Western Digital WD HD's
 don't
  show up on the desktop. And one of them had smoke
  coming out like a toaster. Any other thoughts on
 these
  always on sale at Best Buy clunkers. I'm gonna
 spend
  the $ on reliable LaCie.
  John
 
  Jimmy CraicHead TVVideo Podcast about Sailing,
 Travel, Craic and  
  Cocktails www.jchtv.com
 
 

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Re: [videoblogging] bad Western Digital Hardrives?

2007-11-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've made DVD and HDV Tape back ups as well cause that VP of  
Marketing's words keep ringing in my head.

Tim

Tim Street
Creator/Executive Producer
French Maid TV
The Viral Video of “How To’s” by French Maids
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Subscribe for FREE at: http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes

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On Nov 13, 2007, at 9:16 AM, John Coffey wrote:

 Thanks Tim, time to back up many hours of HD Eye TV
 content off my Lacie ASAP

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  I've lost MANY Lacie drives and when I walked up to
  the VP of
  Marketing for Lacie at Macworld and told him his
  answer was, It's
  only a matter of time until one of our drives fails.
  
 
  I then walked over to the G-Tech booth and I have
  been very happy
  with the G-Raid products ever since.
 
  I have 25 G-Tech drives. The other day I thought one
  of them had gone
  down on me but then I noticed it wasn't plugged in
  to the AC outlet.
 
 
 
  Tim
 
  Tim Street
  Creator/Executive Producer
  French Maid TV
  The Viral Video of “How To’s” by French Maids
  http://frenchmaidtv.com
  Subscribe for FREE at:
  http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes
 
  MY BLOG: http://1timstreet.blogspot.com/
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Nov 13, 2007, at 7:22 AM, John Coffey wrote:
 
   I think I read either here or on Twitter that Bill
   Streeter had 3 harddrives go bad last week. I'm
   starting to find that my Western Digital WD HD's
  don't
   show up on the desktop. And one of them had smoke
   coming out like a toaster. Any other thoughts on
  these
   always on sale at Best Buy clunkers. I'm gonna
  spend
   the $ on reliable LaCie.
   John
  
   Jimmy CraicHead TVVideo Podcast about Sailing,
  Travel, Craic and
   Cocktails www.jchtv.com
  
  
 
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Re: [videoblogging] bad Western Digital Hardrives?

2007-11-13 Thread Lisa Rein
i've had bad luck with western digital, consistently, personally.

we also had trouble with them at widehive records a few years ago (like 3
times in a row) and stopped using anything but LaCie.

Haven't seen g-raid before...will consider...but i've had good luck with
lacies i guess (knock on metal)

lisa

 I've made DVD and HDV Tape back ups as well cause that VP of
 Marketing's words keep ringing in my head.

 Tim

 Tim Street
 Creator/Executive Producer
 French Maid TV
 The Viral Video of “How To’s” by French Maids
 http://frenchmaidtv.com
 Subscribe for FREE at: http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes

 MY BLOG: http://1timstreet.blogspot.com/






 On Nov 13, 2007, at 9:16 AM, John Coffey wrote:

 Thanks Tim, time to back up many hours of HD Eye TV
 content off my Lacie ASAP

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  I've lost MANY Lacie drives and when I walked up to
  the VP of
  Marketing for Lacie at Macworld and told him his
  answer was, It's
  only a matter of time until one of our drives fails.
  
 
  I then walked over to the G-Tech booth and I have
  been very happy
  with the G-Raid products ever since.
 
  I have 25 G-Tech drives. The other day I thought one
  of them had gone
  down on me but then I noticed it wasn't plugged in
  to the AC outlet.
 
 
 
  Tim
 
  Tim Street
  Creator/Executive Producer
  French Maid TV
  The Viral Video of “How To’s” by French Maids
  http://frenchmaidtv.com
  Subscribe for FREE at:
  http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes
 
  MY BLOG: http://1timstreet.blogspot.com/
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Nov 13, 2007, at 7:22 AM, John Coffey wrote:
 
   I think I read either here or on Twitter that Bill
   Streeter had 3 harddrives go bad last week. I'm
   starting to find that my Western Digital WD HD's
  don't
   show up on the desktop. And one of them had smoke
   coming out like a toaster. Any other thoughts on
  these
   always on sale at Best Buy clunkers. I'm gonna
  spend
   the $ on reliable LaCie.
   John
  
   Jimmy CraicHead TVVideo Podcast about Sailing,
  Travel, Craic and
   Cocktails www.jchtv.com
  
  
 
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Re: [videoblogging] bad Western Digital Hardrives?

2007-11-13 Thread Scott McNulty
You do have to keep in mind that hard drives, at least ones most
people can afford at the moment, have lots of moving parts.  Those
moving parts are all... well.. moving whenever you access data off
those drives.

No matter what manufacturer you get your drives from it isn't a matter
of if the drive will fail, but when.  Anyone that tells you
differently is flat out lying.

Solid state memory is changing all of that, but it is still very very
expensive and doesn't come in capacities that DV require.

That being said I've been very happy with my WD drives.

On Nov 13, 2007 12:28 PM, Lisa Rein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i've had bad luck with western digital, consistently, personally.

 we also had trouble with them at widehive records a few years ago (like 3
 times in a row) and stopped using anything but LaCie.

 Haven't seen g-raid before...will consider...but i've had good luck with
 lacies i guess (knock on metal)

 lisa


  I've made DVD and HDV Tape back ups as well cause that VP of
  Marketing's words keep ringing in my head.
 
  Tim
 
  Tim Street
  Creator/Executive Producer
  French Maid TV
  The Viral Video of How To's by French Maids
  http://frenchmaidtv.com
  Subscribe for FREE at: http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes
 
  MY BLOG: http://1timstreet.blogspot.com/
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Nov 13, 2007, at 9:16 AM, John Coffey wrote:
 
  Thanks Tim, time to back up many hours of HD Eye TV
  content off my Lacie ASAP
 
  --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
   I've lost MANY Lacie drives and when I walked up to
   the VP of
   Marketing for Lacie at Macworld and told him his
   answer was, It's
   only a matter of time until one of our drives fails.
   
  
   I then walked over to the G-Tech booth and I have
   been very happy
   with the G-Raid products ever since.
  
   I have 25 G-Tech drives. The other day I thought one
   of them had gone
   down on me but then I noticed it wasn't plugged in
   to the AC outlet.
  
  
  
   Tim
  
   Tim Street
   Creator/Executive Producer
   French Maid TV
   The Viral Video of How To's by French Maids
   http://frenchmaidtv.com
   Subscribe for FREE at:
   http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes
  
   MY BLOG: http://1timstreet.blogspot.com/
  
  
  
  
  
  
   On Nov 13, 2007, at 7:22 AM, John Coffey wrote:
  
I think I read either here or on Twitter that Bill
Streeter had 3 harddrives go bad last week. I'm
starting to find that my Western Digital WD HD's
   don't
show up on the desktop. And one of them had smoke
coming out like a toaster. Any other thoughts on
   these
always on sale at Best Buy clunkers. I'm gonna
   spend
the $ on reliable LaCie.
John
   
Jimmy CraicHead TVVideo Podcast about Sailing,
   Travel, Craic and
Cocktails www.jchtv.com
   
   
  
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RE: [videoblogging] bad Western Digital Hardrives?

2007-11-13 Thread Robert Scoble
If you had bought Seagate drives I could have gotten you help. Sorry.

 

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From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Lisa Rein
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:28 AM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] bad Western Digital Hardrives?

 

i've had bad luck with western digital, consistently, personally.

we also had trouble with them at widehive records a few years ago (like 3
times in a row) and stopped using anything but LaCie.

Haven't seen g-raid before...will consider...but i've had good luck with
lacies i guess (knock on metal)

lisa

 I've made DVD and HDV Tape back ups as well cause that VP of
 Marketing's words keep ringing in my head.

 Tim

 Tim Street
 Creator/Executive Producer
 French Maid TV
 The Viral Video of How To's by French Maids
 http://frenchmaidtv http://frenchmaidtv.com .com
 Subscribe for FREE at: http://www.frenchma
http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes idtv.com/itunes

 MY BLOG: http://1timstreet. http://1timstreet.blogspot.com/
blogspot.com/






 On Nov 13, 2007, at 9:16 AM, John Coffey wrote:

 Thanks Tim, time to back up many hours of HD Eye TV
 content off my Lacie ASAP

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tim%40frenchmaidtv.com com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tim%40frenchmaidtv.com com
 wrote:

  I've lost MANY Lacie drives and when I walked up to
  the VP of
  Marketing for Lacie at Macworld and told him his
  answer was, It's
  only a matter of time until one of our drives fails.
  
 
  I then walked over to the G-Tech booth and I have
  been very happy
  with the G-Raid products ever since.
 
  I have 25 G-Tech drives. The other day I thought one
  of them had gone
  down on me but then I noticed it wasn't plugged in
  to the AC outlet.
 
 
 
  Tim
 
  Tim Street
  Creator/Executive Producer
  French Maid TV
  The Viral Video of How To's by French Maids
  http://frenchmaidtv http://frenchmaidtv.com .com
  Subscribe for FREE at:
  http://www.frenchma http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes
idtv.com/itunes
 
  MY BLOG: http://1timstreet. http://1timstreet.blogspot.com/
blogspot.com/
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Nov 13, 2007, at 7:22 AM, John Coffey wrote:
 
   I think I read either here or on Twitter that Bill
   Streeter had 3 harddrives go bad last week. I'm
   starting to find that my Western Digital WD HD's
  don't
   show up on the desktop. And one of them had smoke
   coming out like a toaster. Any other thoughts on
  these
   always on sale at Best Buy clunkers. I'm gonna
  spend
   the $ on reliable LaCie.
   John
  
   Jimmy CraicHead TVVideo Podcast about Sailing,
  Travel, Craic and
   Cocktails www.jchtv.com
  
  
 
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Re: [videoblogging] bad Western Digital Hardrives?

2007-11-13 Thread Kenya Allmond
As you have seen in the replies, it's pretty much a crap shoot regarding hard 
drives.  At work we handle hundreds, if not thousands, of hard drives 
regularly.  The ones that fail most of the time are LaCie and Seagate even 
though we buy primarily Western Digital internal and Maxtor externals.  We have 
relatively few problems with Western Digital and Maxtor.

Hard drives have moving parts that are bound to fail.  The best choice for 
storing large amounts of data is some sort of RAID configuration where if one 
or two disks go, the data can be reconstructed.  Even then you still have to 
back the data up if it's valuable.

The funny thing about media is that pretty much everything out there WILL fail. 
 CDs and DVDs have shelf lives (not sure what it is though).  And hard drives 
crash.  Companies still use tapes for backup and they are problematic as well.

All that to say: Use a RAID and backup often.
 
. . .
Kenya Allmond
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- Original Message 
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To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:22:56 AM
Subject: [videoblogging] bad Western Digital Hardrives?


I think I read either here or on Twitter that Bill
Streeter had 3 harddrives go bad last week. I'm
starting to find that my Western Digital WD HD's don't
show up on the desktop. And one of them had smoke
coming out like a toaster. Any other thoughts on these
always on sale at Best Buy clunkers. I'm gonna spend
the $ on reliable LaCie.
John

Jimmy CraicHead TVVideo Podcast about Sailing, Travel, Craic and
 Cocktails www.jchtv.com



  

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