[Videolib] Media Collection Development Policies
Hello All, Anyone have theirs at the tip of their fingers, easily shared? I'm especially interested in academic libraries. Thanks in advance, * Meghann Matwichuk, M.S. Associate Librarian Instructional Media Collection Department Morris Library, University of Delaware 181 S. College Ave. Newark, DE 19717 (302) 831-1475 http://www.lib.udel.edu/ud/instructionalmedia/ VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Question about streaming rights
Your point about enhancements is similar to textbook enhancements - CD-Roms, workbooks etc. Here is a link to the Government Accounting Office's report about the tripling of textbook prices: http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05806.pdf Spoiler: It is due to the enhancements and extras that come with the textbooks. Is there any indication that for face-to-face instruction that these enhancements or extras are utilized in class or as part of the curriculum? In the case of textbooks, sometimes professors actively use the enhancements (for instance test banks, many of which are available online via password - streaming, as it were) or assign students to use them, while some do not. If I had the choice to purchase a film for $100.00 to add to the collection and one for $395.00, I'd select the $100.00 cut even if I missed out on the enhancements. Because that means I could buy two more titles at that price for the cost of one film with enhancement. Perhaps some film/media faculty would make a special request for a DVD with extras, but as part of a collection development policy, I'd have to say that the most affordable item would be the priority. On 9/28/2010 2:43 PM, Dennis Doros wrote: Matt, The simple answer is this. A DVD is a physical item that you have to drop into a player. It is illegal to copy if it's encrypted (in most cases). A streaming version is a digital file, and if it's on your hard drive, it's literally forever. (Though, of course, this is ridiculous because how many people can open files from 1992 even? but let's assume a file can migrate over the years.) As Jessica points out, distributors have limited contracts of usually seven to fifteen years, but even more important, livelihoods (and the filmmakers') are based on repeated licensing of the same film. That was the also case in most leasings of 16mm prints before the video age as well, so it's not a new thing. And of course, if you have a digital file, you can pass that file on to other hard drives so it's like buying ten copies for the price of one. And if you have to stream off of the distributor's hard drive, they would be responsible forever to make it available to you. I'm not saying I'm right, but that is the thought process. And you know, I haven't thought of this before (and this is about us feature film distributors at least), but even though you guys have bought 16mm prints, then VHS tapes, then DVDs and now possibly blu-ray, I can guarantee that with each purchase there was either an ease of use or greater quality provided with each purchase over the years. With each technology, the buyer has gotten better and better film transfers (at least from most of us) and better and better context. In the old days, you would get a study guide. Today, you can get commentaries by the director, short films that the director did, the original script, video interviews of the cast and crew, an essay by a esteemed critic, etc. Back in 1965, how many students outside the major cities would have had the chance to listen to a number of directors talk about his work? I understand at $395 a crack, those various formats get annoying but with a lot of stuff at $9.95, it probably balances out to be pretty good overall. I'd love to see what a media library's budget is compared to 1970 and what percentage of the overall institution's budget would have been compared to today. Best, Dennis Doros Milestone Film Video/Milliarium Zero email: milefi...@gmail.com mailto:milefi...@gmail.com www.milestonefilms.com http://www.milestonefilms.com www.ontheboweryfilm.com http://www.ontheboweryfilm.com www.arayafilm.com http://www.arayafilm.com www.exilesfilm.com http://www.exilesfilm.com www.wordisoutmovie.com http://www.wordisoutmovie.com www.killerofsheep.com http://www.killerofsheep.com AMIA Philadelphia 2010: www.amianet.org http://www.amianet.org Join Milestone Film on Facebook! On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Ball, James (jmb4aw) jmb...@eservices.virginia.edu mailto:jmb...@eservices.virginia.edu wrote: Hello Everyone, I’m a bit perplexed by the complex licensing and pricing structures of streaming rights, and some of the recent talk on this listserv has helped clarify a question that’s been floating around my mind for a while, so I figure I’ll pose it to the collective wisdom. If I can buy a DVD for, say, $295.00 and I can keep it forever, and I’m allowed to do certain things with it to meet the educational goals of my institution, then why is it different for a streaming version of the same title? Some streaming rights have to be renewed every few years. Or, if there are perpetual rights they are often priced exorbitantly high. Doesn’t it make sense to pay the same price as for a DVD (maybe even less since manufacturing costs wouldn’t be an issue) and keep it forever, just like a DVD? Or even an e-book. And, as with an e-book, I
Re: [Videolib] Marketing list of librarians?
There are several list out there, but don't the emails have an opt out at the bottom? All commercial emails should include a way to be removed from the list. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Balducci, Joseph jbaldu...@iona.eduwrote: I get tons of emails telling me about newly released documentaries. I am clearly on some sort of list that marketers use, probably of video/media librarians. Can anyone confirm the existence of such a list and does anyone know who it is that collects this info or any way to be removed? Thanks!! Joe VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Marketing list of librarians?
I should have mentioned that. Yes, there is usually an out opt, but you are basically opting out of the marketing for that one documentary (sometimes for a production company), making it fairly futile. Mostly curiosity on my part... On 9/29/10 10:24 AM, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com wrote: There are several list out there, but don't the emails have an opt out at the bottom? All commercial emails should include a way to be removed from the list. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Balducci, Joseph jbaldu...@iona.edu wrote: I get tons of emails telling me about newly released documentaries. I am clearly on some sort of list that marketers use, probably of video/media librarians. Can anyone confirm the existence of such a list and does anyone know who it is that collects this info or any way to be removed? Thanks!! Joe VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Marketing list of librarians?
I see what you mean. If your name is on a commercial list , you would need to find the source. I would suggest emailing one of the companies you get an email from and directly asking them to inform the list provider to remove you. I have used a bought list and when I get a request for removal I have forwarded it to the list provider and it does get removed. In some cases it might be hard for a company to determine which list your name is from. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Balducci, Joseph jbaldu...@iona.eduwrote: I should have mentioned that. Yes, there is usually an out opt, but you are basically opting out of the marketing for that one documentary (sometimes for a production company), making it fairly futile. Mostly curiosity on my part... On 9/29/10 10:24 AM, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com wrote: There are several list out there, but don't the emails have an opt out at the bottom? All commercial emails should include a way to be removed from the list. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Balducci, Joseph jbaldu...@iona.edu wrote: I get tons of emails telling me about newly released documentaries. I am clearly on some sort of list that marketers use, probably of video/media librarians. Can anyone confirm the existence of such a list and does anyone know who it is that collects this info or any way to be removed? Thanks!! Joe VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Marketing list of librarians?
I'm guessing that many marketers / distributors create their own lists based on listserv postings or by searching media library websites. I don't mind hearing about new materials via email, however I will say that receiving multiple (and for some films, I mean upwards of a dozen) emails about a given title gets a bit tiresome. *Especially* when we already have that particular title in our collection. (Although it's certainly better to have an inundation of emails than paper postcards / fliers!) Best, * Meghann Matwichuk, M.S. Associate Librarian Instructional Media Collection Department Morris Library, University of Delaware 181 S. College Ave. Newark, DE 19717 (302) 831-1475 http://www.lib.udel.edu/ud/instructionalmedia/ On 9/29/2010 10:15 AM, Balducci, Joseph wrote: I get tons of emails telling me about newly released documentaries. I am clearly on some sort of list that marketers use, probably of video/media librarians. Can anyone confirm the existence of such a list and does anyone know who it is that collects this info or any way to be removed? Thanks!! Joe VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Media Collection Development Policies
Hi Meghann, I've seen several collection development policies that are quite detailed and specific. I hope that some of them will get posted here. Mine is a bit less specific but should give you a sense of how I go about making purchasing decisions: ~ The RMC (Robertson Media Center) purchases video materials in direct support of curricular needs across all disciplines represented at the University. We purchase all titles requested by faculty, and most titles requested by students if they are needed for school. We also purchase materials that contribute to the broader study of media, including critically acclaimed titles, award winners, and films from specific studios and/or distributors. In aligning our collection policy with the teaching and research needs of our faculty, we pay special attention to titles that cover such topics as (in no particular order): global media, comparative media studies, Latina/o media studies, American cinema and television history, feminist media, queer studies, sexuality, and race. Because the study of media necessarily includes everything from esoteric documentaries and period dramas to sitcoms and reality TV, the collection includes titles from a broad variety genres (about 85% of which were requested by faculty) which explains why the collection has titles ranging from Citizen Kane and Hostel to The Mary Tyler Moore Show and The Wire. A note about television shows, because a few seasons of a television show are usually enough to give scholars a sense of what the show is about, we usually do not have an entire run of a television series. ~~~ Matt Ball Media and Collections Librarian University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22904 mattb...@virginia.eduhttps://mail.eservices.virginia.edu/owa/redir.aspx?C=62fe60f092584617be4c37bdfc2dcf42URL=mailto%3amattball%40virginia.edu | 434-924-3812 From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Meghann Matwichuk Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 8:46 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Media Collection Development Policies Hello All, Anyone have theirs at the tip of their fingers, easily shared? I'm especially interested in academic libraries. Thanks in advance, * Meghann Matwichuk, M.S. Associate Librarian Instructional Media Collection Department Morris Library, University of Delaware 181 S. College Ave. Newark, DE 19717 (302) 831-1475 http://www.lib.udel.edu/ud/instructionalmedia/ VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Marketing list of librarians?
Since library-related junk mail and emails started pouring in at my home and office immediately after I joined ALA, it's fairly obvious to me who sold what contact list to all these different companies. As long as you're a member of ALA, I doubt there's any way out of it. -- James M. Steffen, PhD Film and Media Studies Librarian Theater, Dance, ILA/IDS and LGBT Subject Liaison Marian K. Heilbrun Music and Media Library Emory University 540 Asbury Circle Atlanta, GA 30322-2870 Phone: (404) 727-8107 FAX: (404) 727-2257 Email: jste...@emory.edu -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:41 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 34, Issue 148 Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/videolib@lists.berkeley.edu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu You can reach the person managing the list at videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of videolib digest... Today's Topics: 1. Marketing list of librarians? (Balducci, Joseph) 2. Re: Marketing list of librarians? (Jessica Rosner) 3. Re: Marketing list of librarians? (Balducci, Joseph) 4. Re: Marketing list of librarians? (Jessica Rosner) 5. Re: Marketing list of librarians? (Meghann Matwichuk) 6. Re: Media Collection Development Policies (Ball, James (jmb4aw)) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:15:53 -0400 From: Balducci, Joseph jbaldu...@iona.edu Subject: [Videolib] Marketing list of librarians? To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: c8c8c259.b734%jbaldu...@iona.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I get tons of emails telling me about newly released documentaries. I am clearly on some sort of list that marketers use, probably of video/media librarians. Can anyone confirm the existence of such a list and does anyone know who it is that collects this info or any way to be removed? Thanks!! Joe -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:24:14 -0400 From: Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] Marketing list of librarians? To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: aanlkti=rh-a18q6=pgc7iaj8o5fxdmas22wbtwqw5...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 There are several list out there, but don't the emails have an opt out at the bottom? All commercial emails should include a way to be removed from the list. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Balducci, Joseph jbaldu...@iona.eduwrote: I get tons of emails telling me about newly released documentaries. I am clearly on some sort of list that marketers use, probably of video/media librarians. Can anyone confirm the existence of such a list and does anyone know who it is that collects this info or any way to be removed? Thanks!! Joe VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- next part -- An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:28:54 -0400 From: Balducci, Joseph jbaldu...@iona.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Marketing list of librarians? To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: c8c8c566.b742%jbaldu...@iona.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I should have mentioned that. Yes, there is usually an out opt, but you are basically opting out of the marketing for that one documentary (sometimes for a production company), making it fairly futile. Mostly curiosity on my part... On 9/29/10 10:24 AM, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com wrote: There are several list out there, but don't the emails have an opt out at the bottom? All commercial emails should include a way to be removed from the list. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Balducci, Joseph jbaldu...@iona.edu wrote: I get tons of emails telling me about newly released documentaries. I am clearly on some sort of list that marketers use, probably of video/media librarians. Can anyone confirm the existence of such a list and does anyone
[Videolib] Public Domain for sale???
Hi all Just came across something sort of odd. I notice that Films Media is selling streaming licenses for a number of public domain films that are available absolutely free on the Internet Moving Image Archive. This doesn't seem right to me. Maybe our friends at Films.com can elaborate? Gary Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Marketing list of librarians?
That's funny. ALA may have changed but in the past they never had or sold a list for AV/Media. You could buy a list of librarians interested in China Women's studies etc, but no AV. They definitely sell lists and yes you would never get off it. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Steffen, James M jste...@emory.eduwrote: Since library-related junk mail and emails started pouring in at my home and office immediately after I joined ALA, it's fairly obvious to me who sold what contact list to all these different companies. As long as you're a member of ALA, I doubt there's any way out of it. -- James M. Steffen, PhD Film and Media Studies Librarian Theater, Dance, ILA/IDS and LGBT Subject Liaison Marian K. Heilbrun Music and Media Library Emory University 540 Asbury Circle Atlanta, GA 30322-2870 Phone: (404) 727-8107 FAX: (404) 727-2257 Email: jste...@emory.edu -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:41 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: videolib Digest, Vol 34, Issue 148 Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/videolib@lists.berkeley.edu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu You can reach the person managing the list at videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of videolib digest... Today's Topics: 1. Marketing list of librarians? (Balducci, Joseph) 2. Re: Marketing list of librarians? (Jessica Rosner) 3. Re: Marketing list of librarians? (Balducci, Joseph) 4. Re: Marketing list of librarians? (Jessica Rosner) 5. Re: Marketing list of librarians? (Meghann Matwichuk) 6. Re: Media Collection Development Policies (Ball, James (jmb4aw)) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:15:53 -0400 From: Balducci, Joseph jbaldu...@iona.edu Subject: [Videolib] Marketing list of librarians? To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: c8c8c259.b734%jbaldu...@iona.educ8c8c259.b734%25jbaldu...@iona.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I get tons of emails telling me about newly released documentaries. I am clearly on some sort of list that marketers use, probably of video/media librarians. Can anyone confirm the existence of such a list and does anyone know who it is that collects this info or any way to be removed? Thanks!! Joe -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:24:14 -0400 From: Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Videolib] Marketing list of librarians? To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: aanlkti=rh-a18q6=pgc7iaj8o5fxdmas22wbtwqw5...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 There are several list out there, but don't the emails have an opt out at the bottom? All commercial emails should include a way to be removed from the list. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Balducci, Joseph jbaldu...@iona.edu wrote: I get tons of emails telling me about newly released documentaries. I am clearly on some sort of list that marketers use, probably of video/media librarians. Can anyone confirm the existence of such a list and does anyone know who it is that collects this info or any way to be removed? Thanks!! Joe VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- next part -- An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:28:54 -0400 From: Balducci, Joseph jbaldu...@iona.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Marketing list of librarians? To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Message-ID: c8c8c566.b742%jbaldu...@iona.educ8c8c566.b742%25jbaldu...@iona.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I should have mentioned that. Yes, there is usually an out opt, but you are basically opting out of the marketing for that one documentary (sometimes for a production company), making it fairly futile. Mostly curiosity on my part... On 9/29/10 10:24 AM, Jessica Rosner
[Videolib] Trying to unsubscribe
I've tried the procedure to unsubscribe on the mailman website but it hasn't worked. How do i unsubsribe? Fred Sandner Head, Circulation/Media Services Finkelstein Memorial Library 24 Chestnut Street Spring Valley, NY 10977 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Question about streaming rights
Hi all With almost no exception, DVD enhancements, supplements, add-ons, bonuses, and the Special Features are almost completely ignored here. There are a few interesting exceptions. Last year, we bought the TV series Young Indiana Jones, which includes (I kid you not) over 20 hours of supplements. In that case, the supplements (historical background related to the adventures of young Indie) are the ONLY things ever used. The only other time that supplements get used are cases in which unique, whole films (alternate versions, short films by the director of the feature, etc) are included: e.g.: White Fawn's Devotion (the first American feature by a Native American filmmaker) which is included with Milestone's redoubtable The Exiles. Maybe these bells/whistles mean something in the home video marketplace, but in academia, not so much...at least not in Berkeley academia. Gary Your point about enhancements is similar to textbook enhancements - CD-Roms, workbooks etc. Here is a link to the Government Accounting Office's report about the tripling of textbook prices: http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05806.pdf Spoiler: It is due to the enhancements and extras that come with the textbooks. Is there any indication that for face-to-face instruction that these enhancements or extras are utilized in class or as part of the curriculum? In the case of textbooks, sometimes professors actively use the enhancements (for instance test banks, many of which are available online via password - streaming, as it were) or assign students to use them, while some do not. If I had the choice to purchase a film for $100.00 to add to the collection and one for $395.00, I'd select the $100.00 cut even if I missed out on the enhancements. Because that means I could buy two more titles at that price for the cost of one film with enhancement. Perhaps some film/media faculty would make a special request for a DVD with extras, but as part of a collection development policy, I'd have to say that the most affordable item would be the priority. On 9/28/2010 2:43 PM, Dennis Doros wrote: Matt, The simple answer is this. A DVD is a physical item that you have to drop into a player. It is illegal to copy if it's encrypted (in most cases). A streaming version is a digital file, and if it's on your hard drive, it's literally forever. (Though, of course, this is ridiculous because how many people can open files from 1992 even? but let's assume a file can migrate over the years.) As Jessica points out, distributors have limited contracts of usually seven to fifteen years, but even more important, livelihoods (and the filmmakers') are based on repeated licensing of the same film. That was the also case in most leasings of 16mm prints before the video age as well, so it's not a new thing. And of course, if you have a digital file, you can pass that file on to other hard drives so it's like buying ten copies for the price of one. And if you have to stream off of the distributor's hard drive, they would be responsible forever to make it available to you. I'm not saying I'm right, but that is the thought process. And you know, I haven't thought of this before (and this is about us feature film distributors at least), but even though you guys have bought 16mm prints, then VHS tapes, then DVDs and now possibly blu-ray, I can guarantee that with each purchase there was either an ease of use or greater quality provided with each purchase over the years. With each technology, the buyer has gotten better and better film transfers (at least from most of us) and better and better context. In the old days, you would get a study guide. Today, you can get commentaries by the director, short films that the director did, the original script, video interviews of the cast and crew, an essay by a esteemed critic, etc. Back in 1965, how many students outside the major cities would have had the chance to listen to a number of directors talk about his work? I understand at $395 a crack, those various formats get annoying but with a lot of stuff at $9.95, it probably balances out to be pretty good overall. I'd love to see what a media library's budget is compared to 1970 and what percentage of the overall institution's budget would have been compared to today. Best, Dennis Doros Milestone Film Video/Milliarium Zero email: milefi...@gmail.com mailto:milefi...@gmail.com www.milestonefilms.com http://www.milestonefilms.com www.ontheboweryfilm.com http://www.ontheboweryfilm.com www.arayafilm.com http://www.arayafilm.com www.exilesfilm.com http://www.exilesfilm.com www.wordisoutmovie.com http://www.wordisoutmovie.com www.killerofsheep.com http://www.killerofsheep.com AMIA Philadelphia 2010: www.amianet.org http://www.amianet.org Join Milestone Film on Facebook! On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Ball, James (jmb4aw) jmb...@eservices.virginia.edu mailto:jmb...@eservices.virginia.edu wrote:
Re: [Videolib] Marketing list of librarians?
Hi Joe There are two lists: videolib--a commercial-free discussion forum, and videonews--a new product and service bulletin board. You are not subscribed to the latter, so it's not that direction from which this stuff is coming at you. Video marketers have a large number of ways in which they can get your name...I know of no BIG LIST in the sky for suck things. Personally, I've always found new release emails very helpful in staying abreast of what's out there. The insight generally outweighs the inconvenience of culling through. gary handman I get tons of emails telling me about newly released documentaries. I am clearly on some sort of list that marketers use, probably of video/media librarians. Can anyone confirm the existence of such a list and does anyone know who it is that collects this info or any way to be removed? Thanks!! Joe VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] suck?
Ach Doktor Freud! I wrote suck things in the last post instead of such. Depending on your viewpoint (like Joe's), the former may be more accurate. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Public Domain for sale???
Can you forward some examples. J. Op 29-09-10 17:07, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu ghand...@library.berkeley.edu schreef: Hi all Just came across something sort of odd. I notice that Films Media is selling streaming licenses for a number of public domain films that are available absolutely free on the Internet Moving Image Archive. This doesn't seem right to me. Maybe our friends at Films.com can elaborate? Gary Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Trying to unsubscribe
Kind of like Cub fans being stuck in pergatory From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:15 AM To: fsand...@rcls.org; videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Trying to unsubscribe Sorry Fred you are stuck here forever. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Fred Sandner - FML fsand...@rcls.orgmailto:fsand...@rcls.org wrote: I've tried the procedure to unsubscribe on the mailman website but it hasn't worked. How do i unsubsribe? Fred Sandner Head, Circulation/Media Services Finkelstein Memorial Library 24 Chestnut Street Spring Valley, NY 10977 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Trying to unsubscribe
I've taken you off the list, Fred. Adios! gary handman I've tried the procedure to unsubscribe on the mailman website but it hasn't worked. How do i unsubsribe? Fred Sandner Head, Circulation/Media Services Finkelstein Memorial Library 24 Chestnut Street Spring Valley, NY 10977 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Public Domain for sale???
Check out http://films.com/id/17839/Prelinger_Archives_American_Thrift_Part_I_1962.htm I have a note into Rick Prelinger, who may or may not be aware of this. I have huge respect for Rick, so I hope it's not gary Can you forward some examples. J. Op 29-09-10 17:07, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu ghand...@library.berkeley.edu schreef: Hi all Just came across something sort of odd. I notice that Films Media is selling streaming licenses for a number of public domain films that are available absolutely free on the Internet Moving Image Archive. This doesn't seem right to me. Maybe our friends at Films.com can elaborate? Gary Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] DVD enhancements
I have occasionally bought a DVD because it included a short film we needed. We also had a professor in business request Disney's Ratatouille not for the film, but for a supplementary interview on filmmaking and running a gourmet restaurant - Fine Food and Film: A Conversation with Brad Bird and Thomas Keller (2007, 14 minutes). Problem is, unless the supplementary materials are well publicized, nobody will know they are there, and that's not much of a selling point. And how many people buy anything (cars, phones, books, DVDs or whatever) because they want the add-ons? Brigid Duffy Media Acquisitions Academic Technology San Francisco State University San Francisco, CA 94132-4200 E-mail: bdu...@sfsu.edu On Sep 29, 2010, at 8:18 AM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote: Hi all With almost no exception, DVD enhancements, supplements, add-ons, bonuses, and the Special Features are almost completely ignored here. There are a few interesting exceptions. Last year, we bought the TV series Young Indiana Jones, which includes (I kid you not) over 20 hours of supplements. In that case, the supplements (historical background related to the adventures of young Indie) are the ONLY things ever used. The only other time that supplements get used are cases in which unique, whole films (alternate versions, short films by the director of the feature, etc) are included: e.g.: White Fawn's Devotion (the first American feature by a Native American filmmaker) which is included with Milestone's redoubtable The Exiles. Maybe these bells/whistles mean something in the home video marketplace, but in academia, not so much...at least not in Berkeley academia. Gary Your point about enhancements is similar to textbook enhancements - CD-Roms, workbooks etc. Here is a link to the Government Accounting Office's report about the tripling of textbook prices: http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05806.pdf Spoiler: It is due to the enhancements and extras that come with the textbooks. Is there any indication that for face-to-face instruction that these enhancements or extras are utilized in class or as part of the curriculum? In the case of textbooks, sometimes professors actively use the enhancements (for instance test banks, many of which are available online via password - streaming, as it were) or assign students to use them, while some do not. If I had the choice to purchase a film for $100.00 to add to the collection and one for $395.00, I'd select the $100.00 cut even if I missed out on the enhancements. Because that means I could buy two more titles at that price for the cost of one film with enhancement. Perhaps some film/media faculty would make a special request for a DVD with extras, but as part of a collection development policy, I'd have to say that the most affordable item would be the priority. On 9/28/2010 2:43 PM, Dennis Doros wrote: Matt, The simple answer is this. A DVD is a physical item that you have to drop into a player. It is illegal to copy if it's encrypted (in most cases). A streaming version is a digital file, and if it's on your hard drive, it's literally forever. (Though, of course, this is ridiculous because how many people can open files from 1992 even? but let's assume a file can migrate over the years.) As Jessica points out, distributors have limited contracts of usually seven to fifteen years, but even more important, livelihoods (and the filmmakers') are based on repeated licensing of the same film. That was the also case in most leasings of 16mm prints before the video age as well, so it's not a new thing. And of course, if you have a digital file, you can pass that file on to other hard drives so it's like buying ten copies for the price of one. And if you have to stream off of the distributor's hard drive, they would be responsible forever to make it available to you. I'm not saying I'm right, but that is the thought process. And you know, I haven't thought of this before (and this is about us feature film distributors at least), but even though you guys have bought 16mm prints, then VHS tapes, then DVDs and now possibly blu-ray, I can guarantee that with each purchase there was either an ease of use or greater quality provided with each purchase over the years. With each technology, the buyer has gotten better and better film transfers (at least from most of us) and better and better context. In the old days, you would get a study guide. Today, you can get commentaries by the director, short films that the director did, the original script, video interviews of the cast and crew, an essay by a esteemed critic, etc. Back in 1965, how many students outside the major cities would have had the chance to listen to a number of directors talk about his work? I understand at $395 a crack, those various formats get annoying but with a lot of stuff at
Re: [Videolib] Question about streaming rights
I think the big enhancement is the format itself. If you bought the film in VHS and it comes out in DVD, HD, Blu-Ray etc, you do not have to buy it. You could still use the VHS, but somebody spent a lot of money to remaster it and get it out in digital format. Also $100 Vs $395 is rather a false choice. Most films are either retail at $30 or less or marketed to the institutional market for $100 on up. These more expensive films generally have a much more specific content and limited audience. If you can find what you need in a retail item go for it, since it pretty rare for an institution to need PPR rights, but again most of the higher priced items are far more specialized and hence the higher price. You are not spending money on extras because few institutional films are going to have a lot of extras, you are or would be spending on the content and for an older film the cost of upgrading it to digital format. Jessica On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:18 AM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote: Hi all With almost no exception, DVD enhancements, supplements, add-ons, bonuses, and the Special Features are almost completely ignored here. There are a few interesting exceptions. Last year, we bought the TV series Young Indiana Jones, which includes (I kid you not) over 20 hours of supplements. In that case, the supplements (historical background related to the adventures of young Indie) are the ONLY things ever used. The only other time that supplements get used are cases in which unique, whole films (alternate versions, short films by the director of the feature, etc) are included: e.g.: White Fawn's Devotion (the first American feature by a Native American filmmaker) which is included with Milestone's redoubtable The Exiles. Maybe these bells/whistles mean something in the home video marketplace, but in academia, not so much...at least not in Berkeley academia. Gary Your point about enhancements is similar to textbook enhancements - CD-Roms, workbooks etc. Here is a link to the Government Accounting Office's report about the tripling of textbook prices: http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05806.pdf Spoiler: It is due to the enhancements and extras that come with the textbooks. Is there any indication that for face-to-face instruction that these enhancements or extras are utilized in class or as part of the curriculum? In the case of textbooks, sometimes professors actively use the enhancements (for instance test banks, many of which are available online via password - streaming, as it were) or assign students to use them, while some do not. If I had the choice to purchase a film for $100.00 to add to the collection and one for $395.00, I'd select the $100.00 cut even if I missed out on the enhancements. Because that means I could buy two more titles at that price for the cost of one film with enhancement. Perhaps some film/media faculty would make a special request for a DVD with extras, but as part of a collection development policy, I'd have to say that the most affordable item would be the priority. On 9/28/2010 2:43 PM, Dennis Doros wrote: Matt, The simple answer is this. A DVD is a physical item that you have to drop into a player. It is illegal to copy if it's encrypted (in most cases). A streaming version is a digital file, and if it's on your hard drive, it's literally forever. (Though, of course, this is ridiculous because how many people can open files from 1992 even? but let's assume a file can migrate over the years.) As Jessica points out, distributors have limited contracts of usually seven to fifteen years, but even more important, livelihoods (and the filmmakers') are based on repeated licensing of the same film. That was the also case in most leasings of 16mm prints before the video age as well, so it's not a new thing. And of course, if you have a digital file, you can pass that file on to other hard drives so it's like buying ten copies for the price of one. And if you have to stream off of the distributor's hard drive, they would be responsible forever to make it available to you. I'm not saying I'm right, but that is the thought process. And you know, I haven't thought of this before (and this is about us feature film distributors at least), but even though you guys have bought 16mm prints, then VHS tapes, then DVDs and now possibly blu-ray, I can guarantee that with each purchase there was either an ease of use or greater quality provided with each purchase over the years. With each technology, the buyer has gotten better and better film transfers (at least from most of us) and better and better context. In the old days, you would get a study guide. Today, you can get commentaries by the director, short films that the director did, the original script, video interviews of the cast and crew, an essay by a esteemed critic, etc. Back in 1965, how many students
Re: [Videolib] Trying to unsubscribe
Good grief. Make that purgatory. Gary I seem to have the spelling yips today From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Albrecht Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:29 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Trying to unsubscribe Kind of like Cub fans being stuck in pergatory From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:15 AM To: fsand...@rcls.org; videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Trying to unsubscribe Sorry Fred you are stuck here forever. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Fred Sandner - FML fsand...@rcls.orgmailto:fsand...@rcls.org wrote: I've tried the procedure to unsubscribe on the mailman website but it hasn't worked. How do i unsubsribe? Fred Sandner Head, Circulation/Media Services Finkelstein Memorial Library 24 Chestnut Street Spring Valley, NY 10977 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] DVD enhancements
Totally agree, Brigid. I've been trying to extract and publicize (at least videographically speaking) interesting extras (see, for e.g. our Warner Brothers and MGM Animated Shorts videography http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/warnertoons.html) and Newsreel supplements (http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/newsreels.html#dvd) A good argument, also, for full-tilt cataloging of such stuff...otherwise, it tends to remain buried and completely unused. gary I have occasionally bought a DVD because it included a short film we needed. We also had a professor in business request Disney's Ratatouille not for the film, but for a supplementary interview on filmmaking and running a gourmet restaurant - Fine Food and Film: A Conversation with Brad Bird and Thomas Keller (2007, 14 minutes). Problem is, unless the supplementary materials are well publicized, nobody will know they are there, and that's not much of a selling point. And how many people buy anything (cars, phones, books, DVDs or whatever) because they want the add-ons? Brigid Duffy Media Acquisitions Academic Technology San Francisco State University San Francisco, CA 94132-4200 E-mail: bdu...@sfsu.edu On Sep 29, 2010, at 8:18 AM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote: Hi all With almost no exception, DVD enhancements, supplements, add-ons, bonuses, and the Special Features are almost completely ignored here. There are a few interesting exceptions. Last year, we bought the TV series Young Indiana Jones, which includes (I kid you not) over 20 hours of supplements. In that case, the supplements (historical background related to the adventures of young Indie) are the ONLY things ever used. The only other time that supplements get used are cases in which unique, whole films (alternate versions, short films by the director of the feature, etc) are included: e.g.: White Fawn's Devotion (the first American feature by a Native American filmmaker) which is included with Milestone's redoubtable The Exiles. Maybe these bells/whistles mean something in the home video marketplace, but in academia, not so much...at least not in Berkeley academia. Gary Your point about enhancements is similar to textbook enhancements - CD-Roms, workbooks etc. Here is a link to the Government Accounting Office's report about the tripling of textbook prices: http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05806.pdf Spoiler: It is due to the enhancements and extras that come with the textbooks. Is there any indication that for face-to-face instruction that these enhancements or extras are utilized in class or as part of the curriculum? In the case of textbooks, sometimes professors actively use the enhancements (for instance test banks, many of which are available online via password - streaming, as it were) or assign students to use them, while some do not. If I had the choice to purchase a film for $100.00 to add to the collection and one for $395.00, I'd select the $100.00 cut even if I missed out on the enhancements. Because that means I could buy two more titles at that price for the cost of one film with enhancement. Perhaps some film/media faculty would make a special request for a DVD with extras, but as part of a collection development policy, I'd have to say that the most affordable item would be the priority. On 9/28/2010 2:43 PM, Dennis Doros wrote: Matt, The simple answer is this. A DVD is a physical item that you have to drop into a player. It is illegal to copy if it's encrypted (in most cases). A streaming version is a digital file, and if it's on your hard drive, it's literally forever. (Though, of course, this is ridiculous because how many people can open files from 1992 even? but let's assume a file can migrate over the years.) As Jessica points out, distributors have limited contracts of usually seven to fifteen years, but even more important, livelihoods (and the filmmakers') are based on repeated licensing of the same film. That was the also case in most leasings of 16mm prints before the video age as well, so it's not a new thing. And of course, if you have a digital file, you can pass that file on to other hard drives so it's like buying ten copies for the price of one. And if you have to stream off of the distributor's hard drive, they would be responsible forever to make it available to you. I'm not saying I'm right, but that is the thought process. And you know, I haven't thought of this before (and this is about us feature film distributors at least), but even though you guys have bought 16mm prints, then VHS tapes, then DVDs and now possibly blu-ray, I can guarantee that with each purchase there was either an ease of use or greater quality provided with each purchase over the years. With each technology, the buyer has gotten better and better film transfers (at least from most of us) and better and better context. In the old days, you would get a study guide. Today,
Re: [Videolib] Question about streaming rights
I know there is one prof here who actually writes about the supplements provided to various editions of medieval films--what is considered necessary and appropriate in presenting what is often yet another collector's edition or director's cut of a film which has already been released (historical background? Interviews that explain how it's all relevant? Film historians' views of the film, or historians' views of the history?). At one point he wanted to order for example South American and European editions that had different supplements! Judy -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of ghand...@library.berkeley.edu Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:18 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Question about streaming rights Hi all With almost no exception, DVD enhancements, supplements, add-ons, bonuses, and the Special Features are almost completely ignored here. There are a few interesting exceptions. Last year, we bought the TV series Young Indiana Jones, which includes (I kid you not) over 20 hours of supplements. In that case, the supplements (historical background related to the adventures of young Indie) are the ONLY things ever used. The only other time that supplements get used are cases in which unique, whole films (alternate versions, short films by the director of the feature, etc) are included: e.g.: White Fawn's Devotion (the first American feature by a Native American filmmaker) which is included with Milestone's redoubtable The Exiles. Maybe these bells/whistles mean something in the home video marketplace, but in academia, not so much...at least not in Berkeley academia. Gary Your point about enhancements is similar to textbook enhancements - CD-Roms, workbooks etc. Here is a link to the Government Accounting Office's report about the tripling of textbook prices: http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05806.pdf Spoiler: It is due to the enhancements and extras that come with the textbooks. Is there any indication that for face-to-face instruction that these enhancements or extras are utilized in class or as part of the curriculum? In the case of textbooks, sometimes professors actively use the enhancements (for instance test banks, many of which are available online via password - streaming, as it were) or assign students to use them, while some do not. If I had the choice to purchase a film for $100.00 to add to the collection and one for $395.00, I'd select the $100.00 cut even if I missed out on the enhancements. Because that means I could buy two more titles at that price for the cost of one film with enhancement. Perhaps some film/media faculty would make a special request for a DVD with extras, but as part of a collection development policy, I'd have to say that the most affordable item would be the priority. On 9/28/2010 2:43 PM, Dennis Doros wrote: Matt, The simple answer is this. A DVD is a physical item that you have to drop into a player. It is illegal to copy if it's encrypted (in most cases). A streaming version is a digital file, and if it's on your hard drive, it's literally forever. (Though, of course, this is ridiculous because how many people can open files from 1992 even? but let's assume a file can migrate over the years.) As Jessica points out, distributors have limited contracts of usually seven to fifteen years, but even more important, livelihoods (and the filmmakers') are based on repeated licensing of the same film. That was the also case in most leasings of 16mm prints before the video age as well, so it's not a new thing. And of course, if you have a digital file, you can pass that file on to other hard drives so it's like buying ten copies for the price of one. And if you have to stream off of the distributor's hard drive, they would be responsible forever to make it available to you. I'm not saying I'm right, but that is the thought process. And you know, I haven't thought of this before (and this is about us feature film distributors at least), but even though you guys have bought 16mm prints, then VHS tapes, then DVDs and now possibly blu-ray, I can guarantee that with each purchase there was either an ease of use or greater quality provided with each purchase over the years. With each technology, the buyer has gotten better and better film transfers (at least from most of us) and better and better context. In the old days, you would get a study guide. Today, you can get commentaries by the director, short films that the director did, the original script, video interviews of the cast and crew, an essay by a esteemed critic, etc. Back in 1965, how many students outside the major cities would have had the chance to listen to a number of directors talk about his work? I understand at $395 a crack, those various formats get annoying but with a lot of stuff at $9.95, it probably
Re: [Videolib] Public Domain for sale???
Well PD films have been available in VHS and DVD for a long time and we all keep buying them. Why? Because it's too much trouble for many of us to make a dub and have it on hand when it goes missing. Yeah, streaming PD titles can be a bit different. Prelinger films are always there (in theory) freely available to stream at archive.org. I guess I just look at it as a convenience that FMG is selling. No, I would not buy FMGs stream knowing that it was freely available legally elsewhere. Companies have been selling PD titles for a long time what difference does it make what format it is in? On the other hand you can look at it as a company taking advantage of someone that may not have knowledge that a title is available for free legally elsewhere. Best, Myles -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of ghand...@library.berkeley.edu Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:34 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Public Domain for sale??? Check out http://films.com/id/17839/Prelinger_Archives_American_Thrift_Part_I_1962.htm I have a note into Rick Prelinger, who may or may not be aware of this. I have huge respect for Rick, so I hope it's not gary Can you forward some examples. J. Op 29-09-10 17:07, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu ghand...@library.berkeley.edu schreef: Hi all Just came across something sort of odd. I notice that Films Media is selling streaming licenses for a number of public domain films that are available absolutely free on the Internet Moving Image Archive. This doesn't seem right to me. Maybe our friends at Films.com can elaborate? Gary Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] DVD enhancements
Good reason to have MARC records that list supplementary materials in fields that provide title access. Lorraine. Lorraine Knight marc4media 10645 N. Tatum Blvd., Ste. 200-316 Phoenix Az. 85028 1-800-799-3988 480-998-0283 www.marc4media.com -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Brigid Duffy Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 8:46 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] DVD enhancements I have occasionally bought a DVD because it included a short film we needed. We also had a professor in business request Disney's Ratatouille not for the film, but for a supplementary interview on filmmaking and running a gourmet restaurant - Fine Food and Film: A Conversation with Brad Bird and Thomas Keller (2007, 14 minutes). Problem is, unless the supplementary materials are well publicized, nobody will know they are there, and that's not much of a selling point. And how many people buy anything (cars, phones, books, DVDs or whatever) because they want the add-ons? Brigid Duffy Media Acquisitions Academic Technology San Francisco State University San Francisco, CA 94132-4200 E-mail: bdu...@sfsu.edu On Sep 29, 2010, at 8:18 AM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote: Hi all With almost no exception, DVD enhancements, supplements, add-ons, bonuses, and the Special Features are almost completely ignored here. There are a few interesting exceptions. Last year, we bought the TV series Young Indiana Jones, which includes (I kid you not) over 20 hours of supplements. In that case, the supplements (historical background related to the adventures of young Indie) are the ONLY things ever used. The only other time that supplements get used are cases in which unique, whole films (alternate versions, short films by the director of the feature, etc) are included: e.g.: White Fawn's Devotion (the first American feature by a Native American filmmaker) which is included with Milestone's redoubtable The Exiles. Maybe these bells/whistles mean something in the home video marketplace, but in academia, not so much...at least not in Berkeley academia. Gary Your point about enhancements is similar to textbook enhancements - CD-Roms, workbooks etc. Here is a link to the Government Accounting Office's report about the tripling of textbook prices: http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05806.pdf Spoiler: It is due to the enhancements and extras that come with the textbooks. Is there any indication that for face-to-face instruction that these enhancements or extras are utilized in class or as part of the curriculum? In the case of textbooks, sometimes professors actively use the enhancements (for instance test banks, many of which are available online via password - streaming, as it were) or assign students to use them, while some do not. If I had the choice to purchase a film for $100.00 to add to the collection and one for $395.00, I'd select the $100.00 cut even if I missed out on the enhancements. Because that means I could buy two more titles at that price for the cost of one film with enhancement. Perhaps some film/media faculty would make a special request for a DVD with extras, but as part of a collection development policy, I'd have to say that the most affordable item would be the priority. On 9/28/2010 2:43 PM, Dennis Doros wrote: Matt, The simple answer is this. A DVD is a physical item that you have to drop into a player. It is illegal to copy if it's encrypted (in most cases). A streaming version is a digital file, and if it's on your hard drive, it's literally forever. (Though, of course, this is ridiculous because how many people can open files from 1992 even? but let's assume a file can migrate over the years.) As Jessica points out, distributors have limited contracts of usually seven to fifteen years, but even more important, livelihoods (and the filmmakers') are based on repeated licensing of the same film. That was the also case in most leasings of 16mm prints before the video age as well, so it's not a new thing. And of course, if you have a digital file, you can pass that file on to other hard drives so it's like buying ten copies for the price of one. And if you have to stream off of the distributor's hard drive, they would be responsible forever to make it available to you. I'm not saying I'm right, but that is the thought process. And you know, I haven't thought of this before (and this is about us feature film distributors at least), but even though you guys have bought 16mm prints, then VHS tapes, then DVDs and now possibly blu-ray, I can guarantee that with each purchase there was either an ease of use or greater quality provided with each purchase over the years. With each technology, the buyer has gotten better and better film transfers (at least from most of us) and better and better
Re: [Videolib] Question about streaming rights
And Gary, thank you for noticing! That one short WHITE FAWN'S DEVOTION took five weeks out of my life. Two to acquire it from the LOC and score it, and then three weeks solid to prove that Youngdeer was indeed a Winnebago tribe member. And sad to say, I got all the way to 90% sure and had to take the reassurance of the Winnebago tribal elder to say at least purported on the dvd. I'm not sure other producers are as OCD as I am, but I think there are. AND then I found out that short was also on a Treasures from the American Film Archives release. But most of The Exiles bonus features was specifically produced with the classroom in mind. I would also recommend the Criterion bonus features especially when they get archival interviews of directors from European television. Some of them are incredible. But the NEXT two box sets, are going to be really wonderful... Dennis On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:18 AM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote: Hi all The only other time that supplements get used are cases in which unique, whole films (alternate versions, short films by the director of the feature, etc) are included: e.g.: White Fawn's Devotion (the first American feature by a Native American filmmaker) which is included with Milestone's redoubtable The Exiles. Maybe these bells/whistles mean something in the home video marketplace, but in academia, not so much...at least not in Berkeley academia. Gary Your point about enhancements is similar to textbook enhancements - CD-Roms, workbooks etc. Here is a link to the Government Accounting Office's report about the tripling of textbook prices: http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05806.pdf Spoiler: It is due to the enhancements and extras that come with the textbooks. Is there any indication that for face-to-face instruction that these enhancements or extras are utilized in class or as part of the curriculum? In the case of textbooks, sometimes professors actively use the enhancements (for instance test banks, many of which are available online via password - streaming, as it were) or assign students to use them, while some do not. If I had the choice to purchase a film for $100.00 to add to the collection and one for $395.00, I'd select the $100.00 cut even if I missed out on the enhancements. Because that means I could buy two more titles at that price for the cost of one film with enhancement. Perhaps some film/media faculty would make a special request for a DVD with extras, but as part of a collection development policy, I'd have to say that the most affordable item would be the priority. On 9/28/2010 2:43 PM, Dennis Doros wrote: Matt, The simple answer is this. A DVD is a physical item that you have to drop into a player. It is illegal to copy if it's encrypted (in most cases). A streaming version is a digital file, and if it's on your hard drive, it's literally forever. (Though, of course, this is ridiculous because how many people can open files from 1992 even? but let's assume a file can migrate over the years.) As Jessica points out, distributors have limited contracts of usually seven to fifteen years, but even more important, livelihoods (and the filmmakers') are based on repeated licensing of the same film. That was the also case in most leasings of 16mm prints before the video age as well, so it's not a new thing. And of course, if you have a digital file, you can pass that file on to other hard drives so it's like buying ten copies for the price of one. And if you have to stream off of the distributor's hard drive, they would be responsible forever to make it available to you. I'm not saying I'm right, but that is the thought process. And you know, I haven't thought of this before (and this is about us feature film distributors at least), but even though you guys have bought 16mm prints, then VHS tapes, then DVDs and now possibly blu-ray, I can guarantee that with each purchase there was either an ease of use or greater quality provided with each purchase over the years. With each technology, the buyer has gotten better and better film transfers (at least from most of us) and better and better context. In the old days, you would get a study guide. Today, you can get commentaries by the director, short films that the director did, the original script, video interviews of the cast and crew, an essay by a esteemed critic, etc. Back in 1965, how many students outside the major cities would have had the chance to listen to a number of directors talk about his work? I understand at $395 a crack, those various formats get annoying but with a lot of stuff at $9.95, it probably balances out to be pretty good overall. I'd love to see what a media library's budget is compared to 1970 and what percentage of the overall institution's budget would have been compared to today. Best, Dennis Doros Milestone Film
Re: [Videolib] DVD enhancements
And how many people buy anything (cars, phones, books, DVDs or whatever) because they want the add-ons? I forget which Ford cars they're advertising, but there are several commercials where all they are selling are the cool gizmos. GPS, Touch Screen, push-button, etc. -- Best, Dennis Doros Milestone Film Video/Milliarium Zero PO Box 128 Harrington Park, NJ 07640 Phone: 201-767-3117 Fax: 201-767-3035 email: milefi...@gmail.com www.milestonefilms.com www.ontheboweryfilm.com www.arayafilm.com www.exilesfilm.com www.wordisoutmovie.com www.killerofsheep.com AMIA Philadelphia 2010: www.amianet.org Join Milestone Film on Facebook! VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Public Domain for sale???
I think it is a problem because, yes the item is in the public domain, but what ever wrapper Internet Archives has put on the item is not. I assume Prelinger has put a Cretive Commons License on their additions, but they probably forbid commericalization of their product. Because the stream lists Prelinger Archives in the URL a downloader could think that by purchasing it at Films they are supporting the Internet archives when they may not be. My two cents. jhs John H. Streepy Media Services Supervisor Library-Media Circulation James E. Brooks Library Central Washington University 400 East University Way Ellensburg, WA 98926-7548 (509) 963-2861 http://www.lib.cwu.edu/media Hand to hand combat just goes with the territory. All part of being a librarian -- James Turner Rex Libris Transitus profusum est nocens! Jaeschke, Myles mjae...@tulsalibrary.org 9/29/2010 8:50 AM Well PD films have been available in VHS and DVD for a long time and we all keep buying them. Why? Because it's too much trouble for many of us to make a dub and have it on hand when it goes missing. Yeah, streaming PD titles can be a bit different. Prelinger films are always there (in theory) freely available to stream at archive.org. I guess I just look at it as a convenience that FMG is selling. No, I would not buy FMGs stream knowing that it was freely available legally elsewhere. Companies have been selling PD titles for a long time what difference does it make what format it is in? On the other hand you can look at it as a company taking advantage of someone that may not have knowledge that a title is available for free legally elsewhere. Best, Myles -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of ghand...@library.berkeley.edu Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:34 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Public Domain for sale??? Check out http://films.com/id/17839/Prelinger_Archives_American_Thrift_Part_I_1962.htm I have a note into Rick Prelinger, who may or may not be aware of this. I have huge respect for Rick, so I hope it's not gary Can you forward some examples. J. Op 29-09-10 17:07, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu ghand...@library.berkeley.edu schreef: Hi all Just came across something sort of odd. I notice that Films Media is selling streaming licenses for a number of public domain films that are available absolutely free on the Internet Moving Image Archive. This doesn't seem right to me. Maybe our friends at Films.com can elaborate? Gary Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Public Domain for sale???
John, I would agree with that aspect of it. If FMG is advertising a PD title from the Prelinger archives (which they clearly are) and Rick Prelinger is not aware of this then yes that is a problem. And yes, first glance at the example given it appears that FMG is trying to capitalize on Prelinger's name and work in archiving PD titles which I too would take issue with if it is indeed true. But I don't see a problem with a company trying to sell a PD title in any format as long as the entire content streamed is PD. What would stop FMG or any other company for that matter from removing said wrappers and sell streaming access? Best, Myles Tulsa City County Library Media Collections From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of John Streepy Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:34 AM To: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' Subject: Re: [Videolib] Public Domain for sale??? I think it is a problem because, yes the item is in the public domain, but what ever wrapper Internet Archives has put on the item is not. I assume Prelinger has put a Cretive Commons License on their additions, but they probably forbid commericalization of their product. Because the stream lists Prelinger Archives in the URL a downloader could think that by purchasing it at Films they are supporting the Internet archives when they may not be. My two cents. jhs John H. Streepy Media Services Supervisor Library-Media Circulation James E. Brooks Library Central Washington University 400 East University Way Ellensburg, WA 98926-7548 (509) 963-2861 http://www.lib.cwu.edu/media Hand to hand combat just goes with the territory. All part of being a librarian -- James Turner Rex Libris Transitus profusum est nocens! Jaeschke, Myles mjae...@tulsalibrary.org 9/29/2010 8:50 AM Well PD films have been available in VHS and DVD for a long time and we all keep buying them. Why? Because it's too much trouble for many of us to make a dub and have it on hand when it goes missing. Yeah, streaming PD titles can be a bit different. Prelinger films are always there (in theory) freely available to stream at archive.org. I guess I just look at it as a convenience that FMG is selling. No, I would not buy FMGs stream knowing that it was freely available legally elsewhere. Companies have been selling PD titles for a long time what difference does it make what format it is in? On the other hand you can look at it as a company taking advantage of someone that may not have knowledge that a title is available for free legally elsewhere. Best, Myles -Original Message- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of ghand...@library.berkeley.edu Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:34 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Public Domain for sale??? Check out http://films.com/id/17839/Prelinger_Archives_American_Thrift_Part_I_1962.htm I have a note into Rick Prelinger, who may or may not be aware of this. I have huge respect for Rick, so I hope it's not gary Can you forward some examples. J. Op 29-09-10 17:07, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu ghand...@library.berkeley.edu schreef: Hi all Just came across something sort of odd. I notice that Films Media is selling streaming licenses for a number of public domain films that are available absolutely free on the Internet Moving Image Archive. This doesn't seem right to me. Maybe our friends at Films.com can elaborate? Gary Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation,
[Videolib] Slighty OT but somewhat related to PD streaming discussion
From the publib listserv… Myles From: publib-boun...@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-boun...@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Minobe, Susan Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:23 AM To: pub...@lists.lis.illinois.edu; pub...@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Beware -- free enterprise Selling what’s freely available… “reprinting Wikipedia articles in paperback book form“ The culprits: “Alphascript Publishing, Betascript Publishing, and Fastbook Publishing, apparently all subsidiaries of VDM Publishing House” -Susan L. Minobe- Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 3:54 PM To: wes...@listserv.brown.edu Subject: Fwd: Heads-Up re some new books Here's an interesting note from a colleague here at the U of Minnesota Libraries. GA Colleagues, This was a new one for me, so I thought it might be for others on the list. We had a request for a new book on the African-American jazz pianist, Hank Jones, published by Alphascript. But there is no entry for it yet in WorldCat. So I checked Amazon. Turns out that Alphascript Publishing, Betascript Publishing, and Fastbook Publishing, apparently all subsidiaries of VDM Publishing House, are in the business of reprinting Wikipedia articles in paperback book form. The cover images of these books are all similar, with a minimalist design and stock graphic image vaguely related to the subject matter (e.g., the 100-page Hank Jones “book” has a picture of a (white) person's hands playing the piano, while a book on the history of Ghana has two giraffes). These books are available on Amazon alongside books that are actually authored, edited, and published by reputable publishing houses. Clicking on the name of one of the “editors” of the Hank Jones books reveals that Frederic P. Miller has edited over 65,000 books. He's been a busy guy! We won’t be spending the $45 they are asking for this publication. I thought you might appreciate a heads-up about this. Caveat emptor! - Tim VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] can anyone tell me?
Hi All, Is there a similar list forum like this for compact discs? Your search for sound video ends here! Jay Sonin, General Manager Music Hunter Distributing Company 25-58 34th Street, Suite # 2 Astoria, NY 11103-4902 musichun...@nyc.rr.com 718-777-1949VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] Have you seen De Soto?
Hi Everyone, We have a faculty member looking for the title, Death March to De Soto as our copy is just about dead, at least audibly. The catalog record says it was released in 1998 - though I believe this is likely in fact the same program originally broadcasted on The Learning Channel in 1993. Assuming they are the same, the producer was Arkios Productions and the title appears to have only been released on VHS and distributed by Films, but no longer available in their catalog per Films website and phone customer service (Doug, can you confirm?). Does anyone know where we might be able to secure a copy? The faculty member mentioned this title is vital to her class (and according to our circ. history, several others!) and has resulted in spurring good quality discussion - always a good thing! Thanks, Scott -- Scott Spicer Media Outreach and Learning Spaces Librarian University of Minnesota Libraries - Twin Cities 341 Walter Library spic0...@umn.edu612.626.0629 Media Services: lib.umn.edu/media SMART Learning Commons: smart.umn.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] Keep Cool (film) - seeking a copy w/ English subtitles
Greetings, O Wise Video Masters: We've looked around for a copy of Keep Cool (Zhang Yimou) with English subtitles have come up empty. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keep_Cool_(film) You're my last hope, Videolib. Know of any distributors? Best, Cathy Catherine H. Michael Communications Legal Studies Librarian Ithaca College Library Gannett Center 1201, 953 Danby Road Ithaca, NY 14850 phone: 607-274-1293 http://comlaw.wordpress.com/ VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] Foreign Film rights
Hi, everyone. Someone from the list contacted me a while ago regarding companies UNCW has used to provide PPR for international films. Unfortunately, we had a power outage that impacted my e-mail. I was never able to retrieve the message, nor could I remember who sent it. I decided to answer the question here, in hopes that the right person might find it. Naturally, we have used many US distributors who handle foreign films: Swank, Criterion, IFC, Sony Pictures Classic, Palm Pictures, First Run Features, Music Box Films, Zeitgeist and Film Movement come to mind most readily, though I'm leaving a great number out, I'm sure. I'm also planning to use Strand Releasing, as soon as they are ready to distribute Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives. I have used a few companies that have since gone out of business. For Bollywood films, we have used Yash Raj. I have just contacted UTV about the film Udaan and was quoted a very reasonable price. We have a French instructor who has secured PPR for a few French films through the French Embassy. We have a Portuguese instructor who secured films from Raccord Produções and PRODUÇÕES CINEMATOGRÁFICAS LC BARRETO. She also used Ondamax Films (Latin American Cinema Distribution) and City Lights Media Group. I hope this list is helpful, though it is not complete by any means. Thanks, Sandra Sandra F. Jackson Film Program Coordinator Lumina Theater Sharky's Box Office Department of Campus Life The University of North Carolina Wilmington Phone 910.962.7971 Fax: 910-962-7438 jackso...@uncw.edu http://www.uncw.edu/lumina NOTICE: Emails sent and received in the course of university business are subject to the North Carolina Public Records Act (N.C.G.S. §132-1 et seq.) and may be released to the public unless an exception applies. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Out of the office
On 9/29/10 9:02 PM, cdesca...@injoyvideos.com cdesca...@injoyvideos.com sent this: I am currently out of the office until September 5, 2010. If you need immediate assistance contact InJoy at (303) 447-2082 ext 2. Otherwise, I will reply to your message as soon as I return. Thank you, Carlos Descalzo Awk! Somebody please unsub this nong-nong, okay? Rick VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
