Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 46, Issue 31

2011-09-13 Thread Steffen, James M
Gary, could you  unsubscribe me from this list? Thank you.



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Theater, Dance, ILA/IDS and LGBT Subject Liaison
Marian K. Heilbrun Music and Media Library
Emory University
540 Asbury Circle
Atlanta, GA 30322-2870
Phone: (404) 727-8107
FAX: (404) 727-2257
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 18:05:20 -0400
From: Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 46, Issue 27
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Well there are few nuts out there, but those are mostly cranky French 
companies. rights holders do not want their stuff to die, the smaller ones  ( 
non studios) and especially filmmakers, want very much for their material to be 
available. However it costs serious money to remaster and release material. I 
think the problem is students, faculty , IT and administration people, not 
librarians. This group does if fact think films should be free, and available 
at the press of button on their computer. Some of them may be OK letting a 
library buy one copy if it is roughly $25 and they can stream it, but feel 
anything more is a waste.

With all due respect no library is preserving a film by making a digital copy 
from a VHS.They are actually getting an inferior copy that is down a generation 
of an already vastly inferior image. The only way to preserve a copy is using 
the best available elements and this is why I am so angry about this. Duping 
VHS to DVD and calling preservation and archiving is not only a joke, it does 
as I keep pointing out literally make it harder for the material to ever be 
properly mastered and distributed. Dubbing might cost a library a few bucks to 
pay a student worker to do it,  real preservation or mastering is thousands and 
in some cases tens of thousands of dollars so you can see why rights holders 
might be just a wee pissed at institutions dubbing films they themselves can't 
afford to do, into crappy copies. I don't know if I was more upset at UCLA 
illegally streaming thousands of films or using a 30 year old VHS copy of THE 
TIN DRUM for example, a title which has been available on DVD for at least 15 
years.


It is nice to know everyone here is happy to buy a new copy, but until  
distributors know they can sell enough copies to cover the very high cost of 
making a decent DVD, they simply can not afford to put them out. This is why I 
have always wanted to focus to be on co-operation between distributors and 
libraries on finding ways to make it that work, making cheap DVDS of their 
films is not going to help.

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Ball, James (jmb4aw) 
jmb...@eservices.virginia.edu wrote:
 ?Use it up, wear it out, make it do, do without.?



 We can do without if we have to.? There is always other content that
 students and faculty can use.? But again, I find it hard to believe
 that rights-holders would really rather their work just die than have
 someone take on the responsibility of preserving it, at their own
 expense, so that people could continue to see it?



 M-



 __

 Matt Ball

 Media Services Librarian

 University of Virginia

 mattb...@virginia.edu

 434-924-3812



 From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
 [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of
 catarch...@aol.com
 Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 5:14 PM
 To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
 Subject: Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 46, Issue 27



 We are a small distributor of many many short art films, and it would
 hardly be worthwhile for anyone to pirate our stuff. Where would they 
 advertise it?

 And yet I have a dog in this fight. Because every so often we get an
 inquiry about a title and I respond with an order form, and the line goes 
 dead.
 Why? Because we don't charge $10, we charge $50.? And I think they
 figure well let's see who has that, borrow it, and run off a copy.

 This whole discussion is really about having something that either you
 can't have or that costs more than you want to spend.? Parsing and
 splitting the copyright laws is just a proxy argument.

 If the XYZ Production Company ever does make a DVD of that title you
 want, you can buy it. And if not, not.

 May I quote what is sometimes referred to as the New England credo?

 Use it up, wear it out, make it do, do without.

 Stephan Chodorov
 Creative Arts Television
 www.catarchive.com


 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
 issues relating to the selection, evaluation,
 acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current
 and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It
 is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for
 video librarians, as well 

Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 46, Issue 31

2011-09-13 Thread ghandman
Sure

Jessica and I finally wore you out, eh, James?  Sorry to lose you from the
list.

Gary



 Gary, could you  unsubscribe me from this list? Thank you.



 --
 James M. Steffen, PhD
 Film and Media Studies Librarian
 Theater, Dance, ILA/IDS and LGBT Subject Liaison
 Marian K. Heilbrun Music and Media Library
 Emory University
 540 Asbury Circle
 Atlanta, GA 30322-2870
 Phone: (404) 727-8107
 FAX: (404) 727-2257
 Email: jste...@emory.edu



 --

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 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 18:05:20 -0400
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 Well there are few nuts out there, but those are mostly cranky French
 companies. rights holders do not want their stuff to die, the smaller ones
  ( non studios) and especially filmmakers, want very much for their
 material to be available. However it costs serious money to remaster and
 release material. I think the problem is students, faculty , IT and
 administration people, not librarians. This group does if fact think films
 should be free, and available at the press of button on their computer.
 Some of them may be OK letting a library buy one copy if it is roughly $25
 and they can stream it, but feel anything more is a waste.

 With all due respect no library is preserving a film by making a digital
 copy from a VHS.They are actually getting an inferior copy that is down a
 generation of an already vastly inferior image. The only way to preserve
 a copy is using the best available elements and this is why I am so angry
 about this. Duping VHS to DVD and calling preservation and archiving is
 not only a joke, it does as I keep pointing out literally make it harder
 for the material to ever be properly mastered and distributed. Dubbing
 might cost a library a few bucks to pay a student worker to do it,  real
 preservation or mastering is thousands and in some cases tens of thousands
 of dollars so you can see why rights holders might be just a wee pissed at
 institutions dubbing films they themselves can't afford to do, into crappy
 copies. I don't know if I was more upset at UCLA illegally streaming
 thousands of films or using a 30 year old VHS copy of THE TIN DRUM for
 example, a title which has been available on DVD for at least 15 years.


 It is nice to know everyone here is happy to buy a new copy, but until
 distributors know they can sell enough copies to cover the very high cost
 of making a decent DVD, they simply can not afford to put them out. This
 is why I have always wanted to focus to be on co-operation between
 distributors and libraries on finding ways to make it that work, making
 cheap DVDS of their films is not going to help.

 On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Ball, James (jmb4aw)
 jmb...@eservices.virginia.edu wrote:
 ?Use it up, wear it out, make it do, do without.?



 We can do without if we have to.? There is always other content that
 students and faculty can use.? But again, I find it hard to believe
 that rights-holders would really rather their work just die than have
 someone take on the responsibility of preserving it, at their own
 expense, so that people could continue to see it?



 M-



 __

 Matt Ball

 Media Services Librarian

 University of Virginia

 mattb...@virginia.edu

 434-924-3812



 From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
 [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of
 catarch...@aol.com
 Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 5:14 PM
 To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
 Subject: Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 46, Issue 27



 We are a small distributor of many many short art films, and it would
 hardly be worthwhile for anyone to pirate our stuff. Where would they
 advertise it?

 And yet I have a dog in this fight. Because every so often we get an
 inquiry about a title and I respond with an order form, and the line
 goes dead.
 Why? Because we don't charge $10, we charge $50.? And I think they
 figure well let's see who has that, borrow it, and run off a copy.

 This whole discussion is really about having something that either you
 can't have or that costs more than you want to spend.? Parsing and
 splitting the copyright laws is just a proxy argument.

 If the XYZ Production Company ever does make a DVD of that title you
 want, you can buy it. And if not, not.

 May I quote what is sometimes referred to as the New England credo?

 Use it up, wear it out, make it do, do without.

 Stephan Chodorov
 Creative Arts Television
 www.catarchive.com


 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
 issues relating to the selection, evaluation,
 acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current
 and evolving video formats in libraries and 

[Videolib] Extended Education Classes

2011-09-13 Thread Brigid Duffy

Hi Videolib,

The face-to-face exemption allows:

performance or display of a work by instructors or pupils in the  
course of face-to-face teaching activities of a nonprofit educational  
institution, in a classroom or similar place devoted to instruction


A question has come up as to how far that goes.

Our extended education program has satellite programs in connection  
with other colleges in the area. Can videos that SFSU bought for SFSU  
classes be shown?


Our extended education program has a 'credit partners' option for  
businesses and conferences, which will allow university credit for in- 
house training or conferences, if they meet our university  
department's standards for instruction. Can they use videos we have  
bought in face to face instruction?


I swear, every time somebody tries to clear up copyright issues,  
somebody else creates a new grey area.


Thanks for any information, ideas or opinions.


Brigid Duffy
Academic Technology
San Francisco State University
San Francisco, CA  94132-4200
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Re: [Videolib] Extended Education Classes

2011-09-13 Thread Brewer, Michael
You are still a non-profit institution, the purpose is still instruction and it 
is face to face.  I don't see where the issue is.  The videos only need to be 
legal copies (they don't have to belong to the institution - they could be 
acquired through ILL, or be copies owned by the faculty).

mb

Michael Brewer
Team Leader for Instructional Services
University of Arizona Libraries
brew...@u.library.arizona.edumailto:brew...@u.library.arizona.edu

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Brigid Duffy
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:28 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] Extended Education Classes

Hi Videolib,

The face-to-face exemption allows:

performance or display of a work by instructors or pupils in the course of 
face-to-face teaching activities of a nonprofit educational institution, in a 
classroom or similar place devoted to instruction

A question has come up as to how far that goes.

Our extended education program has satellite programs in connection with other 
colleges in the area. Can videos that SFSU bought for SFSU classes be shown?

Our extended education program has a 'credit partners' option for businesses 
and conferences, which will allow university credit for in-house training or 
conferences, if they meet our university department's standards for 
instruction. Can they use videos we have bought in face to face instruction?

I swear, every time somebody tries to clear up copyright issues, somebody else 
creates a new grey area.

Thanks for any information, ideas or opinions.


Brigid Duffy
Academic Technology
San Francisco State University
San Francisco, CA  94132-4200
E-mail: bdu...@sfsu.edumailto:bdu...@sfsu.edu
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
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working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Extended Education Classes

2011-09-13 Thread Jessica Rosner
Not a problem if they are using the physical copies and not literally
sending them by satellite or some kind of streaming method. That would
lead to complications especially for fiction films.

Also as Michael pointed out, it does not matter where the video comes
from as long as it is a legal copy.  ALL videos come with face to
face rights as it is part of copyright law.

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Brigid Duffy bdu...@sfsu.edu wrote:
 Hi Videolib,
 The face-to-face exemption allows:
 performance or display of a work by instructors or pupils in the course of
 face-to-face teaching activities of a nonprofit educational institution, in
 a classroom or similar place devoted to instruction
 A question has come up as to how far that goes.
 Our extended education program has satellite programs in connection with
 other colleges in the area. Can videos that SFSU bought for SFSU classes be
 shown?
 Our extended education program has a 'credit partners' option for businesses
 and conferences, which will allow university credit for in-house training or
 conferences, if they meet our university department's standards for
 instruction. Can they use videos we have bought in face to face instruction?
 I swear, every time somebody tries to clear up copyright issues, somebody
 else creates a new grey area.
 Thanks for any information, ideas or opinions.

 Brigid Duffy
 Academic Technology
 San Francisco State University
 San Francisco, CA  94132-4200
 E-mail: bdu...@sfsu.edu
 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues
 relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control,
 preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and
 related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
 working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
 between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
 distributors.





-- 
Jessica Rosner
Media Consultant
224-545-3897 (cell)
212-627-1785 (land line)
jessicapros...@gmail.com

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preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
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[Videolib] great courses

2011-09-13 Thread Rosen, Rhonda J.
Hi everyone,
I've got a faculty who wants to order one of those Great Courses.  I've tried 
to avoid them over the years as I consider them more in the talking heads kind 
of productions,
And basically a substitute  for a teacher, rather than a supplementbut am I 
wrong?

Do any of you purchase them for your collectionsthey are often like 20 - ½ 
hour lectures.lots of space taken up

Just curious,
Rhonda

Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media  Access Services
William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University
One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659
rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584|
http://library.lmu.eduhttp://library.lmu.edu/
 You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where people 
sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of employing 
wild animals as librarians.
--Monty Python





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relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
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between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] great courses

2011-09-13 Thread Griest, Bryan
They are indeed talking heads, but I think they are pretty darn good ones-our 
patrons consistently rate them highly. Essentially they are taped university 
course lectures. Most likely not meant for academic libraries, given that they 
would be competing for your own professors' classes, but that's their problem!

; )

Bryan Griest

Glendale Public Library

 

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Rosen, Rhonda J.
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:42 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] great courses

 

Hi everyone,

I've got a faculty who wants to order one of those Great Courses.  I've tried 
to avoid them over the years as I consider them more in the talking heads kind 
of productions,

And basically a substitute  for a teacher, rather than a supplementbut am I 
wrong? 

 

Do any of you purchase them for your collectionsthey are often like 20 - ½ 
hour lectures.lots of space taken up

 

Just curious,

Rhonda

 

Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media  Access Services
William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University
One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659
rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584|
http://library.lmu.edu http://library.lmu.edu/ 

 You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where people 
sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of employing 
wild animals as librarians.
--Monty Python

 

 

 

 

 

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] great courses

2011-09-13 Thread Pat Mcgee
We have three: Higher Mathematics, Joy of Science, and Calculus Made Clear.  
The Calculus probably gets the most usage.  Users have been quite positive 
about it.

Best.

Pat McGee

Coordinator of Media Services

Volpe Library and Media Center

Tennessee Technological University

Campus Box 5066

Cookeville, TN 38505

931-372-3544

 

 

 

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Rosen, Rhonda J.
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:42 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] great courses

 

Hi everyone,

I've got a faculty who wants to order one of those Great Courses.  I've tried 
to avoid them over the years as I consider them more in the talking heads kind 
of productions,

And basically a substitute  for a teacher, rather than a supplementbut am I 
wrong? 

 

Do any of you purchase them for your collectionsthey are often like 20 - ½ 
hour lectures.lots of space taken up

 

Just curious,

Rhonda

 

Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media  Access Services
William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University
One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659
rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584|
http://library.lmu.edu http://library.lmu.edu/ 

 You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where people 
sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of employing 
wild animals as librarians.
--Monty Python

 

 

 

 

 

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] great courses

2011-09-13 Thread Tiffany Hudson
I work for the Salt Lake City Public Library and these courses are extremely 
popular!  But I always wait until they go on sale. They offer every course in 
their catalog at a sale price at least once each year.

- Original Message -
From: Rhonda J. Rosen rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:41:43 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
Subject: [Videolib] great courses





Hi everyone, 

I’ve got a faculty who wants to order one of those “Great Courses.” I’ve tried 
to avoid them over the years as I consider them more in the talking heads kind 
of productions, 

And basically a substitute for a teacher, rather than a supplement….but am I 
wrong? 



Do any of you purchase them for your collections….they are often like 20 – ½ 
hour lectures…..lots of space taken up…. 



Just curious, 

Rhonda 



Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media  Access Services 
William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University 
One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659 
rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584| 
http://library.lmu.edu 

You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where people sit 
in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of employing wild 
animals as librarians. 
--Monty Python 










VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

-- 
Tiffany Hudson
Audio-Visual Selector
Salt Lake City Public Library
210 East 400 South
Salt Lake City, UT  84111
801-322-8161
801-524-8200
thud...@slcpl.org


The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. ~Eleanor 
Roosevelt

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Re: [Videolib] great courses

2011-09-13 Thread Troy Davis
here at WM, if someone really really wants them, we'd get it.

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 1:56 PM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote:
 Ug!

 It's interesting having been around a high-class institutional joint
 like Berkeley for so many years.  I cannot tell you the number of times
 I've suspected faculty of using videos as a way of worming out of teaching
 for one reason or another.  At least in those instances the stuff they
 were showing usually had some intrinsic interest, rather than being a
 talking head doing the lecturing they should have been doing...  Great
 Courses, indeed!

 Gary


 Hi everyone,
 I've got a faculty who wants to order one of those Great Courses.  I've
 tried to avoid them over the years as I consider them more in the talking
 heads kind of productions,
 And basically a substitute  for a teacher, rather than a supplementbut
 am I wrong?

 Do any of you purchase them for your collectionsthey are often like 20
 - ½ hour lectures.lots of space taken up

 Just curious,
 Rhonda

 Rhonda Rosen| Head, Media  Access Services
 William H. Hannon Library | Loyola Marymount University
 One LMU Drive, MS 8200 | Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659
 rhonda.ro...@lmu.edu| 310/338-4584|
 http://library.lmu.eduhttp://library.lmu.edu/
  You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where
 people sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of
 employing wild animals as librarians.
 --Monty Python





 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
 issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
 control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
 libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve
 as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
 communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
 producers and distributors.



 Gary Handman
 Director
 Media Resources Center
 Moffitt Library
 UC Berkeley

 510-643-8566
 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
 http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

 I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself.
 --Francois Truffaut


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-- 
M. Troy Davis | (757) 279-8871
Director, Swem Media Center
Earl Gregg Swem Library
The College of William  Mary
mtd...@wm.edu
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http://www.facebook.com/swemmedia
http://www.youtube.com/swemmedia

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[Videolib] Another day, another copyright lawsuit against Universities

2011-09-13 Thread Jessica Rosner
This one is kind of biggie and filled with bits of irony. Link is
below but in summery The Author's Guild and several international
writers organizations are suing 5 (so far) American Universities over
their plans to make
Orphaned but still copyrighted works that were digitized by Google
available. As most of you know the Google project is on hold and seen
as unlikely to ever get approved and a key reason for this was the
Federal Judge overseeing the case said the protections for Orphan
works were vastly insufficient. The irony is that the Authors Guild
was a party to that settlement but a number of individual authors and
publishers objected.

Again this one is a major case.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/09/authors-guild-sues-universities-over-book-digitization-project.ars

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[Videolib] Fwd: System Administrator

2011-09-13 Thread Beverly Weisenberg
what is this all about?   Why are passwords needed?

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Re: [Videolib] Streaming rights

2011-09-13 Thread Jessica Rosner
Most this would be title by title. Most major studio title (WB ,
Paramount etc.) are licensed by Swank ( except Fox which is Criterion
Pictures USA), There are also a variety of companies that license
foreign, classic  indie films including Criterion Janus, Milestone,
Zeitgeist, New Yorker etc.

Do you have any specific titles you are looking for? Pricing frankly
seems to be all over the map.

You can certainly suggest Netflix as an option assuming they carry the title.

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Kathi Fountain
kfount...@vancouver.wsu.edu wrote:
 Hi all,

 I'm new to this list and new to managing media rights in any way,
 though I'm quickly getting up to speed with copyright restrictions on
 media usage. I thought I'd tap into your collective wisdom for a
 possible solution to perplexing issue.

 On my campus, we have a few faculty members who would like to use a
 number of films in their distance education classes. Many of these are
 motion pictures, and in order to transmit these films legally, we
 would need to get streaming rights from the distributors. I've worked
 with PBS and a few other documentary producers on quotes for
 streaming, but how have you handled requests to stream feature films?
 Do you buy rights? From whom? Do you refer faculty to Netflix to see
 if films are available there, and/or encourage students to have
 Netflix accounts as a necessary course component?

 Thanks for any advice you have.

 Best,

 Kathi Carlisle Fountain
 Head of Collection Development
 Washington State University Vancouver Library
 14204 NE Salmon Creek Ave.
 Vancouver, WA 98686-9600
 Phone: 360-546-9694
 Fax: 360-546-9039
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[Videolib] Don't shoot the messenger - Commercial Felony Streaming Act, S. 978

2011-09-13 Thread Deg Farrelly
I don't recall seeing this discussed here yet.  Apologies if I am wrong.

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**

You Could Be Up The Creek For Streaming 
Up on the Hill with Kenneth Salomon

The Senate Judiciary Committee on June 16 adopted a bill that broadens the 
coverage of current federal laws against criminal infringement of copyrights 
and increases the penalties for certain instances of infringement. This 
legislation, the Commercial Felony Streaming Act, S. 978, introduced last May 
by Senators Klobuchar (D-MN), Cornyn (R-TX) and Coons (D-DE), would enable the 
government might to pursue cases that it otherwise would not be able to 
prosecute under current law. The problem is that the bill is so broad and 
intellectual property rights often difficult to determine, that individuals 
could inadvertently be swept within its scope. The concern is compounded by the 
fact that the bill imposes criminal, not civil, penalties for violation. And 
the big question is what impact S. 978 would have on colleges and universities 
if it became law.

Current law imposes criminal penalties for willful copyright infringement where 
a defendant illegally reproduces or distributes a copyrighted work. What S. 978 
seeks to address is the fact that the Internet enables illegal online streaming 
in addition to online downloading. Content industry representatives, like the 
Motion Picture Industry Association of America, claim that S. 978 is needed 
because “it is unclear whether Internet streaming constitutes distribution of 
copyrighted works, and therefore eligible to be prosecuted as a felony.” See 
“S. 978: The Commercial Felony Streaming Act, Senators Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) and 
John Cornyn (R-TX), 112th U.S. Congress” at http://www.mpaa.org/Resources/
2f0f3647-2403-40cd-9638-16ee42ec8373.pdf. Other supporters of the bill include 
the Directors Guild of America, the Recording Industry Association of America, 
the Screen Actors Guild, and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

Full article here:
https://admin.imodules.com/s/1039/images/editor_documents/s978_streaming_salomon_2011autumn.pdf
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Re: [Videolib] Fwd: System Administrator

2011-09-13 Thread ghandman
feggedabout it...a spam oversight...

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Re: [Videolib] great courses

2011-09-13 Thread Dorfman, Andrew
A few years ago, we received a donation of pretty much the entire library of 
great courses.  They are quite popular and a limited number of faculty find 
them useful.  For the most part, it's students and special borrowers who 
actually check them out.

It's also important to note that many of these are audio-only CDs and, indeed, 
those are our most popular GC titles.  They're always in demand during campus 
down times when faculty, staff and students are traveling.  As far as I can 
tell, they're not used in the classroom.

Andy
Regis University Library

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Griest, Bryan
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:54 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] great courses

They are indeed talking heads, but I think they are pretty darn good ones-our 
patrons consistently rate them highly. Essentially they are taped university 
course lectures. Most likely not meant for academic libraries, given that they 
would be competing for your own professors' classes, but that's their problem!
; )
Bryan Griest
Glendale Public Library

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[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Rosen, Rhonda J.
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:42 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] great courses

Hi everyone,
I've got a faculty who wants to order one of those Great Courses.  I've tried 
to avoid them over the years as I consider them more in the talking heads kind 
of productions,
And basically a substitute  for a teacher, rather than a supplementbut am I 
wrong?

Do any of you purchase them for your collectionsthey are often like 20 - ½ 
hour lectures.lots of space taken up

Just curious,
Rhonda

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Re: [Videolib] great courses

2011-09-13 Thread CAPLAN Victoria F
Hi Rhonda,

I select them for purchase as well. Some students like them to supplement
their courses, or to refresh (e.g. someone who jhas been out in the work
place for several years doing an MSc in civil engineering who needs to
refresh on fluid dynamics).

Others I select for general education for students interest. For example,
we have no African Studies courses at HKUST, so the 18 hour African
Experience course is useful for any students who want to learn more about
the history and cultures of Africa.


- Victoria Caplan
HKUST Libarry
Hong Kong University of Science and Technology


 Rhonda,
 I had to purchase many of them for a faculty member who insisted they were
 the most amazing things ever.  So be it.  Most of my colleagues did not
 agree, but some faculty do use certain Courses because they do like the
 content.  I'd be happy to let you know which ones are used the most.

 Best,
 Lorraine
 Alden Library
 Ohio U



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