Re: [Videolib] recommended articles or bibliographies?

2012-05-15 Thread Jo Ann Reynolds
No, but I have been thinking of writing one about UConn's experience with 
streaming.

Will try to pull some thoughts and ideas together over the next week or so.

Jo Ann

Jo Ann Reynolds
Reserve Services Coordinator
University of Connecticut Libraries
369 Fairfield Road, Unit 2005RR
Storrs, CT  06269-2005
jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu
860-486-1406
860-486-5636 (fax)
http://classguides.lib.uconn.edu/mediaresources



From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Graham
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 10:52 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] recommended articles or bibliographies?

Hello!

Does anyone have any 'go-to' articles on streaming video in academic libraries 
or any bibliographies they'd care to share? As an institution, we're beginning 
to discuss this more and more, so if anyone has any recommendations on any 
aspect of video streaming, please feel free to share your favorite!

Thanks in advance, and cheers from Nebraska!

Richard

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[Videolib] anatomy tv

2012-05-15 Thread Badilla-Melendez, Cindy
Dar Wisdom,

Have any of you used the database called anatomy tv?:

http://www.anatomy.tv/

For me this is not a video database. For me this is mostly a sciences database 
(kind of textbook made into a database) or maybe is cool for some of you

Any thoughts.
Reason I asked if someone wants me to pay for it as video.
I remember 10 years ago seen a really cool software on anatomy, that was really 
fantastic for that time and for sure is not this. But have no idea of name or 
anything. Anyone can suggest something more interactive for health sciences?
Thanks
Cindy

__
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Media Resources Librarian
O'Shaughnessy-Frey Library,
University of St. Thomas
Mail #5004, 2115 Summit Ave,
St Paul, MN 55105
phone (651) 962-5464
fax (651) 962-5406



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relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
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[Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-15 Thread Deg Farrelly
Jessica

This is patently NOT TRUE.  US copyright law identifies amount  as one of the 
four factors in determining whether a use is fair use, but it has NEVER 
specified that only the smallest possible amount is permissible.

deg

deg farrelly
ASU Libraries
Arizona State University
P.O. Box 871006
Tempe, Arizona  85287-1006
480.965.1403

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 22:03:11 -0400
From: Jessica Rosner maddux2...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Another code of best practices document...

The Georgia State ruling merely reinforces what has always been true about
fair use that it is for using the smallest possible portion of a work to
create a new one. 
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-15 Thread ghandman
yeah!  Remember that the CCUMC/CONFU Fair Use Guidelines for Educational
Multimedia years back attempted to quantify.  ALA and other participants
in the drafting process pretty much refused to sign on because of these
attempts and I think it's a good stand to to stand by.  Quantifying fair
use is a nasty slippery slope, indeed!

Gary Handman


 Jessica

 This is patently NOT TRUE.  US copyright law identifies amount  as one of
 the four factors in determining whether a use is fair use, but it has
 NEVER specified that only the smallest possible amount is permissible.

 deg

 deg farrelly
 ASU Libraries
 Arizona State University
 P.O. Box 871006
 Tempe, Arizona  85287-1006
 480.965.1403

 --


 Message: 2
 Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 22:03:11 -0400
 From: Jessica Rosner maddux2...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Videolib] Another code of best practices document...

 The Georgia State ruling merely reinforces what has always been true about
 fair use that it is for using the smallest possible portion of a work to
 create a new one.
 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
 issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
 control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
 libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve
 as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
 communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
 producers and distributors.



Gary Handman
Director
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley

510-643-8566
ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself.
--Francois Truffaut


VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-15 Thread Shoaf,Judith P
It's worth noting that Judge Evans actually emphasized that it is legitimate to 
excerpt an entire chapter (even a chapter written by a different author from 
the rest of the book) in order to provide students with a context for the 
material to be discussed. That is, she justified including MORE THAN the 
smallest possible portion.  She also stressed that transformative use of 
academic materials (i.e. the kind of factual reports involved in the case) is 
not only not necessary but is precluded by the nature of the materials and the 
way they are to be used. 

There is nothing in the decision, in fact, about video materials, nothing about 
transformative uses, and nothing about the Section 110 face-to-face + TEACH 
question. It's all about library e-reserves based on nonfiction books, though 
obviously Judge Evans's reading of Fair Use is relevant to educational use of 
media.

Judy Shoaf

-Original Message-


Jessica

This is patently NOT TRUE.  US copyright law identifies amount  as one of the 
four factors in determining whether a use is fair use, but it has NEVER 
specified that only the smallest possible amount is permissible.

deg farrelly

--
From: Jessica Rosner 

The Georgia State ruling merely reinforces what has always been true about 
fair use that it is for using the smallest possible portion of a work to 
create a new one. 

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-15 Thread Jessica Rosner
Well we now have a 10% ruling from a Federal Court but since the material
in question was non fiction it would almost surely be less for works of
fiction. There
is about 100 years of case law which gives fiction work significantly more
protection (and non fiction less).

HOWEVER there is also significant case law that amount used should be the
MINIMUM needed to achieve the purpose and that is what I was stating. Sadly
too many people and groups have simply ignored actual copyright cases so I
am not too hopeful they will accept the GSU ruling. I have yet to hear from
a single proponent of the you can use the whole work if it is REALLY
needed theory, respond to this ruling (Deg?).

I expect this might well be appealed by the publishers on a number of
grounds but like I have said I am just fine with a 10% rule.

One side issue I just want to mention because it drives ME NUTS. The GATT
treaty which  retroactively ( yes but that is because the rights holders
basically never had a chance to copyright their material) copyrighted tens
of thousands of films was attacked by virtually the same people now
claiming you can digitize and stream an entire work. We were told it
horrible, it would be then end of  Public Domain and The Supreme Court
would strike it down. Instead it led to huge number of foreign films for
the first time being available in high quality copies and the Supreme Court
completely upheld it. However unlike the institutions I know are illegally
streaming whole films in the 10 years the  GATT case wound it's way through
the courts it was enforced.



On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 2:31 PM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote:

 yeah!  Remember that the CCUMC/CONFU Fair Use Guidelines for Educational
 Multimedia years back attempted to quantify.  ALA and other participants
 in the drafting process pretty much refused to sign on because of these
 attempts and I think it's a good stand to to stand by.  Quantifying fair
 use is a nasty slippery slope, indeed!

 Gary Handman


  Jessica
 
  This is patently NOT TRUE.  US copyright law identifies amount  as one of
  the four factors in determining whether a use is fair use, but it has
  NEVER specified that only the smallest possible amount is permissible.
 
  deg
 
  deg farrelly
  ASU Libraries
  Arizona State University
  P.O. Box 871006
  Tempe, Arizona  85287-1006
  480.965.1403
 
  --
 
 
  Message: 2
  Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 22:03:11 -0400
  From: Jessica Rosner maddux2...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: [Videolib] Another code of best practices document...
 
  The Georgia State ruling merely reinforces what has always been true
 about
  fair use that it is for using the smallest possible portion of a work
 to
  create a new one.
  VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
  issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
  control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
  libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve
  as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel
 of
  communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
  producers and distributors.
 


 Gary Handman
 Director
 Media Resources Center
 Moffitt Library
 UC Berkeley

 510-643-8566
 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
 http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

 I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself.
 --Francois Truffaut


 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
 issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
 control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
 libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
 an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
 communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
 producers and distributors.

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-15 Thread Jessica Rosner
Sheesh Judith OF COURSE THERE IS NOTHING ON media but guess what Copyright
law is Copyright law and fair use is fair use . As for the Face to Face  do
ot get that at all. Please explain how a low which in EXPLICIT detail says
the use MUST be in a PHYSICAL classroom with an instructor present can be
use to justify streaming films to a computer wherever it is. This law is
not vague or open to interpretation, it says what it says. You can try to
change it but you can't ignore it because it does not fit your uses. So
basically you think the ruling is great on issues you  like but it does not
count when it conflicts with that?

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Shoaf,Judith P jsh...@ufl.edu wrote:

 It's worth noting that Judge Evans actually emphasized that it is
 legitimate to excerpt an entire chapter (even a chapter written by a
 different author from the rest of the book) in order to provide students
 with a context for the material to be discussed. That is, she justified
 including MORE THAN the smallest possible portion.  She also stressed that
 transformative use of academic materials (i.e. the kind of factual reports
 involved in the case) is not only not necessary but is precluded by the
 nature of the materials and the way they are to be used.

 There is nothing in the decision, in fact, about video materials, nothing
 about transformative uses, and nothing about the Section 110 face-to-face +
 TEACH question. It's all about library e-reserves based on nonfiction
 books, though obviously Judge Evans's reading of Fair Use is relevant to
 educational use of media.

 Judy Shoaf

 -Original Message-


 Jessica

 This is patently NOT TRUE.  US copyright law identifies amount  as one of
 the four factors in determining whether a use is fair use, but it has NEVER
 specified that only the smallest possible amount is permissible.

 deg farrelly

 --
 From: Jessica Rosner

 The Georgia State ruling merely reinforces what has always been true about
 fair use that it is for using the smallest possible portion of a work to
 create a new one.

 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
 issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
 control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
 libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
 an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
 communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
 producers and distributors.

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-15 Thread Randal Baier
Good points -- I see another healthy debate on the horizon. Hold football for 
Lucy, hope for the best, rinse, repeat. 


If I'm not mistaken it was the Kinko's case here in Ann Arbor, where some of 
these specific percentages were discussed. I think the prof. had copied 30-40% 
of a book, but the additional argument that had some substance centered not so 
much on the large percentage but that the good parts were primarily what was 
copied. Good parts  core  substantive argument, etc. Qualitative, not 
quantitative. At any rate, it seems to me that stating something as exact as 
10% is an effort in futility -- doesn't that miss a lot of the point, even 
though it is one part of the fair use review? (disclosure: I have not read even 
1% of the decision yet, so I shan't go opinionating beyond this little 
wondering!). 


Randal Baier 

- Original Message -

From: ghand...@library.berkeley.edu 
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu 
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:31:49 PM 
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use 

yeah! Remember that the CCUMC/CONFU Fair Use Guidelines for Educational 
Multimedia years back attempted to quantify. ALA and other participants 
in the drafting process pretty much refused to sign on because of these 
attempts and I think it's a good stand to to stand by. Quantifying fair 
use is a nasty slippery slope, indeed! 

Gary Handman 


 Jessica 
 
 This is patently NOT TRUE. US copyright law identifies amount as one of 
 the four factors in determining whether a use is fair use, but it has 
 NEVER specified that only the smallest possible amount is permissible. 
 
 deg 
 
 deg farrelly 
 ASU Libraries 
 Arizona State University 
 P.O. Box 871006 
 Tempe, Arizona 85287-1006 
 480.965.1403 
 
 -- 
 
 
 Message: 2 
 Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 22:03:11 -0400 
 From: Jessica Rosner maddux2...@gmail.com 
 Subject: Re: [Videolib] Another code of best practices document... 
 
 The Georgia State ruling merely reinforces what has always been true about 
 fair use that it is for using the smallest possible portion of a work to 
 create a new one. 
 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of 
 issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic 
 control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in 
 libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve 
 as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of 
 communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video 
 producers and distributors. 
 


Gary Handman 
Director 
Media Resources Center 
Moffitt Library 
UC Berkeley 

510-643-8566 
ghand...@library.berkeley.edu 
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC 

I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself. 
--Francois Truffaut 


VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors. 

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-15 Thread Shoaf,Judith P
Silly me.

Judy

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 3:08 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

Sheesh Judith OF COURSE THERE IS NOTHING ON media but guess what Copyright law 
is Copyright law and fair use is fair use . As for the Face to Face  do ot get 
that at all. Please explain how a low which in EXPLICIT detail says the use 
MUST be in a PHYSICAL classroom with an instructor present can be use to 
justify streaming films to a computer wherever it is. This law is not vague or 
open to interpretation, it says what it says. You can try to change it but you 
can't ignore it because it does not fit your uses. So basically you think the 
ruling is great on issues you  like but it does not count when it conflicts 
with that?
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Shoaf,Judith P 
jsh...@ufl.edumailto:jsh...@ufl.edu wrote:
It's worth noting that Judge Evans actually emphasized that it is legitimate to 
excerpt an entire chapter (even a chapter written by a different author from 
the rest of the book) in order to provide students with a context for the 
material to be discussed. That is, she justified including MORE THAN the 
smallest possible portion.  She also stressed that transformative use of 
academic materials (i.e. the kind of factual reports involved in the case) is 
not only not necessary but is precluded by the nature of the materials and the 
way they are to be used.

There is nothing in the decision, in fact, about video materials, nothing about 
transformative uses, and nothing about the Section 110 face-to-face + TEACH 
question. It's all about library e-reserves based on nonfiction books, though 
obviously Judge Evans's reading of Fair Use is relevant to educational use of 
media.

Judy Shoaf

-Original Message-


Jessica

This is patently NOT TRUE.  US copyright law identifies amount  as one of the 
four factors in determining whether a use is fair use, but it has NEVER 
specified that only the smallest possible amount is permissible.
deg farrelly

--
From: Jessica Rosner

The Georgia State ruling merely reinforces what has always been true about 
fair use that it is for using the smallest possible portion of a work to 
create a new one.

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-15 Thread Jessica Rosner
Honestly I am not obsessed with 10% especially if the material is say under
an hour, my problem is and has been the absurd claim that an entire work of
any length  could be digitized and streamed in its entirety

I should also confess that actually thought most of the material in the GSU
case was actually a lot longer.

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Randal Baier rba...@emich.edu wrote:

 Good points -- I see another healthy debate on the horizon. Hold football
 for Lucy, hope for the best, rinse, repeat.

 If I'm not mistaken it was the Kinko's case here in Ann Arbor, where some
 of these specific percentages were discussed. I think the prof. had copied
 30-40% of a book, but the additional argument that had some substance
 centered not so much on the large percentage but that the good parts were
 primarily what was copied. Good parts  core  substantive argument, etc.
 Qualitative, not quantitative. At any rate, it seems to me that stating
 something as exact as 10% is an effort in futility -- doesn't that miss a
 lot of the point, even though it is one part of the fair use review?
  (disclosure: I have not read even 1% of the decision yet, so I shan't go
 opinionating beyond this little wondering!).

 Randal Baier

 --
 *From: *ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
 *To: *videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
 *Sent: *Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:31:49 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use


 yeah!  Remember that the CCUMC/CONFU Fair Use Guidelines for Educational
 Multimedia years back attempted to quantify.  ALA and other participants
 in the drafting process pretty much refused to sign on because of these
 attempts and I think it's a good stand to to stand by.  Quantifying fair
 use is a nasty slippery slope, indeed!

 Gary Handman


  Jessica
 
  This is patently NOT TRUE.  US copyright law identifies amount  as one of
  the four factors in determining whether a use is fair use, but it has
  NEVER specified that only the smallest possible amount is permissible.
 
  deg
 
  deg farrelly
  ASU Libraries
  Arizona State University
  P.O. Box 871006
  Tempe, Arizona  85287-1006
  480.965.1403
 
  --
 
 
  Message: 2
  Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 22:03:11 -0400
  From: Jessica Rosner maddux2...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: [Videolib] Another code of best practices document...
 
  The Georgia State ruling merely reinforces what has always been true
 about
  fair use that it is for using the smallest possible portion of a work
 to
  create a new one.
  VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
  issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
  control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
  libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve
  as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel
 of
  communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
  producers and distributors.
 


 Gary Handman
 Director
 Media Resources Center
 Moffitt Library
 UC Berkeley

 510-643-8566
 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
 http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

 I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself.
 --Francois Truffaut


 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
 issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
 control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
 libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
 an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
 communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
 producers and distributors.


 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
 issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
 control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
 libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
 an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
 communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
 producers and distributors.


VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


[Videolib] CIP 2012 Biennial Symposium on Intellectual Property--June 6-8

2012-05-15 Thread Camille Walker
**Apologies for Cross Postings**



*CIP 2012 Biennial Symposium June 6-8, 2012*

*at the Baltimore Convention Center, Baltimore, MD*

*Early Bird Registration ends May 11!*

* *

Don’t forget to register for the best symposium program we have ever had!

Program schedule is available on the CIP website www.umuc.edu/cip2012



*PRESYMPOSIUM SEMINARS*—*June 6*: *You will have the choice between 2
workshops offered throughout the day.  Three-hour workshops include:*

•*Copyright 101 *- Nancy Sims, Copyright Program Librarian, University of
Minnesota: This interactive session will provide you with some solid
foundational knowledge in copyright, as well as help you build confidence
in addressing complex copyright issues in ways that will work well for your
institution.



•*Policy Creation and Revision* - Steve McDonald, General Counsel at Rhode
Island.   Institutional Copyright Policies:  Who, How, What, and Why?
Copyright law is increasingly important to colleges and universities, which
are among both the biggest creators and the biggest users of copyrights at
a time when copyright is itself increasingly important to our nation’s
economy.  But at the same time, copyright law is little known or understood
on our campuses, and its default provisions frequently are at odds with our
practices.  The unfortunate results of this lack of knowledge and attention
can include lost opportunities, internal misunderstandings and conflict,
and litigation.   To a significant degree, such problems can – and should –
be addressed through the development and implementation of institutional
policies.  This practical workshop will focus on the who, how, what, and
why of doing so, from both an ownership and a use perspective.



*SPEAKERS:* *We have dynamic speakers and panelists this year!*  Keynote
speakers: Lawrence Lessig, Director, Edmond J. Safra Center for Ethics at
Harvard University, IP Scholar and author will be the opening keynote on
June 6!  Peggy Hoon,  Scholarly Communications Librarian for the University
of North Carolina at Charlotte (UNCC) and UMUC's IP Scholar and Karyn
Temple Claggett, Senior Counsel  for Policy and International Affairs at
the US Copyright Office will present keynote addresses on June 7 and 8.
Session Speakers:  Brandon Butler, Director of Policy Initiatives at the
Association of Research Librarians (ARL), Donna Ferullo, Director of
University Copyright Office, Purdue University,  Katie Fortney, Librarian,
University of California, Santa Cruz, Carla Meyers, Assistant Professor and
Access Librarian, University of Colorado-Colorado Spring,  Paul Dobbs,
Library Director, Massachusetts College of Art and Design, Anne Gilliland,
Assistant Professor, Department of Library  IS, UCLA,  Martin Brennan,
Copyright and Licensing Librarian, University of Illinois at
Champaign/Urbana,  Joan Cheverie, Policy Specialist, EDUCAUSE, and Stephen,
Marvin, Campus Copyright Coordinator, West Chester University FH Green
Library.



Check out the schedule and bios of the speakers on www.umuc.edu/cip2012.



*CAREER FAIR:* We still have some employer spaces available for the
symposium career fair.   Please
registerhttp://cipcommunity.org/s/1039/index.aspx?sid=1039gid=1pgid=750for
the Career Fair
www.umuc.edu/cip2012 or contact Camille Walker at (240) 684-2964.



Camille Walker

Assistant Director of Development and Outreach

Center For Intellectual Property

University of Maryland University College

(240) 684-2964 office

(240) 684-2961 fax

cwal...@umuc.edu
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Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-15 Thread Shoaf,Judith P
I once took that personality test online and it said I am most like Lucy in 
Peanuts. My husband, who is most like Schroeder, doesn’t let me forget it. 
Nickels welcome.

Judge Evans talks about the Kinko’s and Michigan Documents cases, and disagrees 
about the “good parts” argument. In only one of the cases she considers does 
she say that the excerpt constituted “the heart of the work.” I’m not sure 
whether this is because a plaintiff argued it or it was her own analysis.

NB she looks at 74 cases, of which 27 fail the prima facie copyright violation 
test because either the plaintiffs were not able to show they had the rights, 
or else the excerpt was never accessed by students (e.g. the course was 
cancelled). So there are 47 cases where she looks at fair use. In 100% of them 
she considered that the library providing free access to the excerpts (factor 
1) strongly favored the defendants, and that the nature of the works 
(scholarship relevant to the courses) favored the defendants (factor 2). In the 
5 cases where she found violations, factor 3 had to favor the plaintiffs (that 
is, the amount had to be more than “distinctly small”) AND factor 4 had to 
strongly favor the plaintiffs (not only was permission available in a 
reasonably convenient way, but the book in question actually made money on such 
permissions).

There is no 10% rule. The rule is that an amount under 10% of a book with fewer 
than 10 chapters, or one chapter of a book with more than 10 chapters, is 
“distinctly small.” So in some cases 5% of a book could be more than a 
distinctly small portion (if it was a huge book with many chapters). I suppose 
that if you had a book with 12 chapters, and one chapter took up 20% of the 
book, that chapter could be used and still be “distinctly small.”

But if the permission is difficult to come by, the amount is irrelevant. In 13 
cases, factor 3 favored or even (in one case—30% of the book!) strongly favored 
the plaintiffs but the judge found for the defendants based on factor 4..

I shall now go fly a kite into the kite-eating tree.

Judy Shoaf




Good points -- I see another healthy debate on the horizon. Hold football for 
Lucy, hope for the best, rinse, repeat.

If I'm not mistaken it was the Kinko's case here in Ann Arbor, where some of 
these specific percentages were discussed. I think the prof. had copied 30-40% 
of a book, but the additional argument that had some substance centered not so 
much on the large percentage but that the good parts were primarily what was 
copied. Good parts  core  substantive argument, etc. Qualitative, not 
quantitative. At any rate, it seems to me that stating something as exact as 
10% is an effort in futility -- doesn't that miss a lot of the point, even 
though it is one part of the fair use review?  (disclosure: I have not read 
even 1% of the decision yet, so I shan't go opinionating beyond this little 
wondering!).

Randal Baier
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Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-15 Thread Randal Baier
Oops, now I'm obsessing . by the way everyone, Lucy is meant to represent 
the problem, the issue, the thick pudding of discourse  ya' know, the meme 
that says it all! 


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From: Randal Baier rba...@emich.edu 
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu 
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 3:11:12 PM 
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use 


Good points -- I see another healthy debate on the horizon. Hold football for 
Lucy, hope for the best, rinse, repeat. 


If I'm not mistaken it was the Kinko's case here in Ann Arbor, where some of 
these specific percentages were discussed. I think the prof. had copied 30-40% 
of a book, but the additional argument that had some substance centered not so 
much on the large percentage but that the good parts were primarily what was 
copied. Good parts  core  substantive argument, etc. Qualitative, not 
quantitative. At any rate, it seems to me that stating something as exact as 
10% is an effort in futility -- doesn't that miss a lot of the point, even 
though it is one part of the fair use review? (disclosure: I have not read even 
1% of the decision yet, so I shan't go opinionating beyond this little 
wondering!). 


Randal Baier 

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From: ghand...@library.berkeley.edu 
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu 
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:31:49 PM 
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use 

yeah! Remember that the CCUMC/CONFU Fair Use Guidelines for Educational 
Multimedia years back attempted to quantify. ALA and other participants 
in the drafting process pretty much refused to sign on because of these 
attempts and I think it's a good stand to to stand by. Quantifying fair 
use is a nasty slippery slope, indeed! 

Gary Handman 


 Jessica 
 
 This is patently NOT TRUE. US copyright law identifies amount as one of 
 the four factors in determining whether a use is fair use, but it has 
 NEVER specified that only the smallest possible amount is permissible. 
 
 deg 
 
 deg farrelly 
 ASU Libraries 
 Arizona State University 
 P.O. Box 871006 
 Tempe, Arizona 85287-1006 
 480.965.1403 
 
 -- 
 
 
 Message: 2 
 Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 22:03:11 -0400 
 From: Jessica Rosner maddux2...@gmail.com 
 Subject: Re: [Videolib] Another code of best practices document... 
 
 The Georgia State ruling merely reinforces what has always been true about 
 fair use that it is for using the smallest possible portion of a work to 
 create a new one. 
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Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-15 Thread Jessica Rosner
So I ask again even under your view how can an ENTIRE work of any length
pass a fair use test? This case apparently involved a large number of
smaller excepts and I don't really care if it was only a few out of 74 that
were upheld the point is the LONGER ones were found in violation so it is
not brain surgery here.

I never took the Lucy personality test but my friends often compared me too
her and I am a big fan. That will be 5 cents for this by the way.


On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Shoaf,Judith P jsh...@ufl.edu wrote:

  I once took that personality test online and it said I am most like Lucy
 in Peanuts. My husband, who is most like Schroeder, doesn’t let me forget
 it. Nickels welcome.

 ** **

 Judge Evans talks about the Kinko’s and Michigan Documents cases, and
 disagrees about the “good parts” argument. In only one of the cases she
 considers does she say that the excerpt constituted “the heart of the
 work.” I’m not sure whether this is because a plaintiff argued it or it was
 her own analysis. 

 ** **

 NB she looks at 74 cases, of which 27 fail the prima facie copyright
 violation test because either the plaintiffs were not able to show they had
 the rights, or else the excerpt was never accessed by students (e.g. the
 course was cancelled). So there are 47 cases where she looks at fair use.
 In 100% of them she considered that the library providing free access to
 the excerpts (factor 1) strongly favored the defendants, and that the
 nature of the works (scholarship relevant to the courses) favored the
 defendants (factor 2). In the 5 cases where she found violations, factor 3
 had to favor the plaintiffs (that is, the amount had to be more than
 “distinctly small”) AND factor 4 had to strongly favor the plaintiffs (not
 only was permission available in a reasonably convenient way, but the book
 in question actually made money on such permissions).

 ** **

 There is no 10% rule. The rule is that an amount under 10% of a book with
 fewer than 10 chapters, or one chapter of a book with more than 10
 chapters, is “distinctly small.” So in some cases 5% of a book could be
 more than a distinctly small portion (if it was a huge book with many
 chapters). I suppose that if you had a book with 12 chapters, and one
 chapter took up 20% of the book, that chapter could be used and still be
 “distinctly small.” 

 ** **

 But if the permission is difficult to come by, the amount is irrelevant.
 In 13 cases, factor 3 favored or even (in one case—30% of the book!)
 strongly favored the plaintiffs but the judge found for the defendants
 based on factor 4..

 ** **

 I shall now go fly a kite into the kite-eating tree.

 ** **

 Judy Shoaf

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

 

 Good points -- I see another healthy debate on the horizon. Hold football
 for Lucy, hope for the best, rinse, repeat.

 ** **

 If I'm not mistaken it was the Kinko's case here in Ann Arbor, where some
 of these specific percentages were discussed. I think the prof. had copied
 30-40% of a book, but the additional argument that had some substance
 centered not so much on the large percentage but that the good parts were
 primarily what was copied. Good parts  core  substantive argument, etc.
 Qualitative, not quantitative. At any rate, it seems to me that stating
 something as exact as 10% is an effort in futility -- doesn't that miss a
 lot of the point, even though it is one part of the fair use review?
  (disclosure: I have not read even 1% of the decision yet, so I shan't go
 opinionating beyond this little wondering!). 

 ** **

 Randal Baier

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[Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

2012-05-15 Thread ghandman
I just realized how relieved I am not to have to jump feet first into this
particular fray.  From now on, it's gonna be (to quote Stephen Dedalus)
Silence, exile, and cunning...

gary




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UC Berkeley

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[Videolib] Pinterest

2012-05-15 Thread Moshiri, Farhad
Have you used Pinterest to advertise your library's DVDs to your students? 
How successful has it been? Did you encounter copyright issues using cover 
images? Did you encounter problems with students comments? Thanks.

Farhad Moshiri
Audiovisual Librarian
University of the Incarnate Word
San Antonio, TX


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Re: [Videolib] Pinterest

2012-05-15 Thread Julia Churchill
Hi,

   We have been on Pinterest for several months now. So far no problems. Here 
is the link to our boards http://pinterest.com/OakLawnPL/ . We are using it to 
promote summer reading also.


Julia Churchill

Audio Visual Supervisor

Oak Lawn Public Library
9427 S. Raymond Ave.
Oak Lawn, Illinois 60453

jchurch...@olpl.org

Oak Lawn patrons can download e-books from www.mediaondemand.org



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Have you used Pinterest to advertise your library's DVDs to your students? 
How successful has it been? Did you encounter copyright issues using cover 
images? Did you encounter problems with students comments? Thanks.

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University of the Incarnate Word
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Re: [Videolib] Pinterest

2012-05-15 Thread Randal Baier
Hmm, interesting idea, Farhad. I'd not thought of that. I imagine Tumblr could 
do similar things, visually at least, but Pinterest seems to have some thematic 
tracking that could be of use I suppose. I should play with that a bit. 


I use LibraryThing to track reviews for a journal ( Asian Music ) -- I find 
that pretty useful. But LT is already set up to track book publishing. All 
potential reviewers can see what we have available, I can also track when the 
reviews are submitted and when they are published. And it's colorful with all 
those covers. I've never had a peep on any image issues. It also enters some 
basic library info. Hint: always looking for reviewers -- especially if you are 
into RAB QEEJ HMOOB , or KAEN/KAN , for that matter.  
http://www.librarything.com/profile/AsianMusicReviews  



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Subject: [Videolib] Pinterest 



Have you used “Pinterest” to advertise your library’s DVDs to your students? 
How successful has it been? Did you encounter copyright issues using cover 
images? Did you encounter problems with students comments? Thanks. 

Farhad Moshiri 
Audiovisual Librarian 
University of the Incarnate Word 
San Antonio, TX 

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[Videolib] Apple?

2012-05-15 Thread Dave Dvorchak
Not the computer company but the Beatles' publishing company.

Who handles the rights to films (and how do you get in touch with them?)? I
assume Paul McCartney? Since it's a British company, does someone over here
handle US rights?

Dave

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Re: [Videolib] Apple?

2012-05-15 Thread Jessica Rosner
Apple  never directly controlled the rights. Which film specifically?

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Dave Dvorchak ddvorc...@provcomlib.orgwrote:

 Not the computer company but the Beatles' publishing company.

 Who handles the rights to films (and how do you get in touch with them?)?
 I assume Paul McCartney? Since it's a British company, does someone over
 here handle US rights?

 Dave

 --
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 Office Manager
 Providence Community Library
 ddvorc...@provcomlib.org
 (401) 467-2700 x2


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Re: [Videolib] Apple?

2012-05-15 Thread Dave Dvorchak
Well, I see now that UA / MGM have Yellow Submarine and Let It Be. I was
thinking of the Shea Stadium concert, which, I see now has never been
officially released on VHS or DVD, So even if I have a print of it, I
assume it's a no-go!

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Jessica Rosner maddux2...@gmail.comwrote:

 Apple  never directly controlled the rights. Which film specifically?

 On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Dave Dvorchak 
 ddvorc...@provcomlib.orgwrote:

 Not the computer company but the Beatles' publishing company.

 Who handles the rights to films (and how do you get in touch with them?)?
 I assume Paul McCartney? Since it's a British company, does someone over
 here handle US rights?

 Dave

 --
 David Dvorchak
 Office Manager
 Providence Community Library
 ddvorc...@provcomlib.org
 (401) 467-2700 x2


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Re: [Videolib] Apple?

2012-05-15 Thread Jessica Rosner
You really, really, really do NOT want to screw with the Beatles people on
music rights. There was an article recently about the time and effort MAD
MEN had to put in to secure the use of one song. If it was never released
or can not be licensed you would be better off showing SONG OF THE SOUTH
and putting it up on Facebook. You do not want to mess with these people.

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Dave Dvorchak ddvorc...@provcomlib.orgwrote:

 Well, I see now that UA / MGM have Yellow Submarine and Let It Be. I was
 thinking of the Shea Stadium concert, which, I see now has never been
 officially released on VHS or DVD, So even if I have a print of it, I
 assume it's a no-go!


 On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Jessica Rosner maddux2...@gmail.comwrote:

 Apple  never directly controlled the rights. Which film specifically?

 On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Dave Dvorchak 
 ddvorc...@provcomlib.orgwrote:

 Not the computer company but the Beatles' publishing company.

 Who handles the rights to films (and how do you get in touch with
 them?)? I assume Paul McCartney? Since it's a British company, does someone
 over here handle US rights?

 Dave

 --
 David Dvorchak
 Office Manager
 Providence Community Library
 ddvorc...@provcomlib.org
 (401) 467-2700 x2


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Re: [Videolib] Apple?

2012-05-15 Thread Dave Dvorchak
Right, I was under the impression that it had been released but I proved
myself wrong!

SOTS, that's a good one. I'm sure the Disney Police would be kicking my
door down. Perhaps a double-feature with Birth of A Nation!

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Jessica Rosner maddux2...@gmail.comwrote:

 You really, really, really do NOT want to screw with the Beatles people on
 music rights. There was an article recently about the time and effort MAD
 MEN had to put in to secure the use of one song. If it was never released
 or can not be licensed you would be better off showing SONG OF THE SOUTH
 and putting it up on Facebook. You do not want to mess with these people.


 On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Dave Dvorchak 
 ddvorc...@provcomlib.orgwrote:

 Well, I see now that UA / MGM have Yellow Submarine and Let It Be. I was
 thinking of the Shea Stadium concert, which, I see now has never been
 officially released on VHS or DVD, So even if I have a print of it, I
 assume it's a no-go!


 On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Jessica Rosner maddux2...@gmail.comwrote:

 Apple  never directly controlled the rights. Which film specifically?

 On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Dave Dvorchak ddvorc...@provcomlib.org
  wrote:

 Not the computer company but the Beatles' publishing company.

 Who handles the rights to films (and how do you get in touch with
 them?)? I assume Paul McCartney? Since it's a British company, does someone
 over here handle US rights?

 Dave

 --
 David Dvorchak
 Office Manager
 Providence Community Library
 ddvorc...@provcomlib.org
 (401) 467-2700 x2


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 issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
 control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
 libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
 an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
 communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
 producers and distributors.



 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
 issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
 control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
 libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
 an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
 communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
 producers and distributors.




-- 
David Dvorchak
Office Manager
Providence Community Library
ddvorc...@provcomlib.org
(401) 467-2700 x2
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.