[Videolib] Tricky fair use question regarding streaming video databases

2013-12-19 Thread Chris Lewis
This is a theoretical scenario at this point though will happen if the
University Counsel can be convinced the proposed event is protected under
Fair Use and doesn't violate other laws such as the DMCA.

The question is whether a short clip from a licensed database can be
downloaded and used in a documentary if it favors the four Fair Use factors?

The database in question is the Television News Archive though the question
could be applied to others as well.

My thought is that if a streamed video can be downloaded then it would have
to be limited to private use and nothing more including Fair Use. But
honestly I have no confidence in that stance.

-- 
Chris Lewis
American University Library
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Tricky fair use question regarding streaming video databases

2013-12-19 Thread John Streepy

This may be an instance where contract law may out weigh your fair use rights.  
I would say you have to check with the contract regarding the licensed 
database, and look for any prohibitive language.  If your university signed a 
contract to get access to the database, that will trump the fair use rights of 
the person making the documentary. 
my two cents backed up only from what i have gleaned from following the list 
serve. 
regards and happy holidays 
jhs


John H. Streepy

Library-Government Publications
James E. Brooks Library
Central Washington University
400 East University Way
Ellensburg, WA  98926-7548

(509) 963-2861
http://www.lib.cwu.edu/Documents

Hand to hand combat just goes with the territory.
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Transitus profusum est nocens!





 Chris Lewis cle...@american.edu 12/19/2013 11:10 AM 

This is a theoretical scenario at this point though will happen if the 
University Counsel can be convinced the proposed event is protected under Fair 
Use and doesn't violate other laws such as the DMCA.


The question is whether a short clip from a licensed database can be downloaded 
and used in a documentary if it favors the four Fair Use factors?


The database in question is the Television News Archive though the question 
could be applied to others as well.


My thought is that if a streamed video can be downloaded then it would have to 
be limited to private use and nothing more including Fair Use. But honestly I 
have no confidence in that stance.


--
Chris Lewis
American University Library

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.


Re: [Videolib] Tricky fair use question regarding streaming video databases

2013-12-19 Thread Jessica Rosner
It was my understanding that in general streaming was not supposed to be
downloaded, that both technology and the contract should prevent it.

Is the material in question ONLY available on a streaming database? No way
to get it off a physical copy? Otherwise I suspect it would violate most
streaming agreements. All the ones I have seen require the institution to
take all steps to prevent downloading.


On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 2:25 PM, John Streepy john.stre...@cwu.edu wrote:

  This may be an instance where contract law may out weigh your fair use
 rights.  I would say you have to check with the contract regarding the
 licensed database, and look for any prohibitive language.  If your
 university signed a contract to get access to the database, that will trump
 the fair use rights of the person making the documentary.

 my two cents backed up only from what i have gleaned from following the
 list serve.

 regards and happy holidays

 jhs


 John H. Streepy

 Library-Government Publications
 James E. Brooks Library
 Central Washington University
 400 East University Way
 Ellensburg, WA  98926-7548

 (509) 963-2861
 http://www.lib.cwu.edu/Documents

 Hand to hand combat just goes with the territory.
 All part of being a librarian -- James Turner Rex Libris

 Transitus profusum est nocens!





  Chris Lewis cle...@american.edu 12/19/2013 11:10 AM 

 This is a theoretical scenario at this point though will happen if the
 University Counsel can be convinced the proposed event is protected under
 Fair Use and doesn't violate other laws such as the DMCA.

   The question is whether a short clip from a licensed database can be
 downloaded and used in a documentary if it favors the four Fair Use factors?

   The database in question is the Television News Archive though the
 question could be applied to others as well.

   My thought is that if a streamed video can be downloaded then it would
 have to be limited to private use and nothing more including Fair Use. But
 honestly I have no confidence in that stance.


 --
 Chris Lewis
 American University Library


 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
 issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
 control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
 libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
 an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
 communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
 producers and distributors.


VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.