[Videolib] Mysterium (1975) 16mm print

[Dennis Doros]

Does anyone know a location for the 16mm print of Shirley Clarke and Marion
Scott's MYSTERIUM from 1975. I'm desperately looking for a copy!


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relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] PPR streaming

[Jessica Rosner]

Jane is correct. PPR and Streaming are different rights. Most streaming
contracts allow any current student or faculty access to a particular
title. I learned early on from librarians that trying to limit access to
students in a particular class was insane. PPR is for a public showing of a
film and frankly in 90% of cases it is sort of red herring. The vast
majority of schools have no need for PPR on the vast majority of titles.
There are certainly important exceptions of films that students or faculty
might actually want to program ( and unlike Nahum I am not shilling titles
but I represent a few that are regularly shown on campus) but mostly there
is little interest in programming the documentary on basket weaving
co-operative in Bolivia. PPR dates back to 16mm and Beta tape etc , it
really was just thrown in because the prices are so high but again it is a
separate from streaming and OF course streaming is not just for "face to
face" situations that is the whole point of purchasing the right to stream
a title. If it was used "face to face" they would not need streaming rights.

Lastly Nahum is it possible to discuss an issue WITHOUT mentioning your
film over an over? Videolib is for discussing general issues and other than
someone asks for suggestions on titles for particular subject it is
inappropriate to mention your film, your prices etc.

Jessica Rosner


On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, nahum laufer 
wrote:

>
> Jane
> I want to disagree with you, institutional rights are for face to face use
> or private physical screening,
> "Streaming licence allows from  password protected site for our students
> and
> staff and is not shown publically maybe is correct" .
>  Yet as people not connected with the subject, so  anyone of the faculity,
> students, including MOOC students to see the film, most cases the screening
> is not in a face to face situation, so the demand that the purchase will
> include PPR is legimate, it's a public showing to all the university
> The differrance between institution fee for our film (One Day After Peace)
> is ($250)  &  PPR ($300) and we ask $100 for unlimited streaming rights,
> Other films it will be $350
> The example Deg quoted is overpriced, and the vendor doesn't want to sell.
>   Cheers
>
> Nahum Laufer
> http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php
> http://docsforeducation.com/
> Sales
> Docs for Education
> Erez Laufer Films
> Holland st 10
> Afulla 18371
> Israel
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:24:06 +
> From: "Hutchison, Jane" 
> Subject: Re: [Videolib] Your reactions to streaming terms?
> To: "'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu'" 
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> These terms are not acceptable and we would not agree to them.  And to
> follow the previous posting, one doesn't need PPR for streaming.  Streaming
> for us is from a password protected site for our students and staff and is
> not shown publically.  We license for our institution only.  Adding PPR is
> another way to obtain more money for the title when it is not needed.
>
> Jane B. Hutchison
> Associate Director
> Instruction & Research Technology
> 300 Pompton Road
> Wayne, NJ 07470
> (w)973-720-2980
> (cell) 973-418-7727
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-- 
Jessica Rosner
Media Consultant
224-545-3897 (cell)
212-627-1785 (land line)
jessicapros...@gmail.com
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

[Videolib] PPR streaming

[nahum laufer]

Jane
I want to disagree with you, institutional rights are for face to face use
or private physical screening, 
"Streaming licence allows from  password protected site for our students and
staff and is not shown publically maybe is correct" .
 Yet as people not connected with the subject, so  anyone of the faculity,
students, including MOOC students to see the film, most cases the screening
is not in a face to face situation, so the demand that the purchase will
include PPR is legimate, it's a public showing to all the university
The differrance between institution fee for our film (One Day After Peace)
is ($250)  &  PPR ($300) and we ask $100 for unlimited streaming rights,
Other films it will be $350
The example Deg quoted is overpriced, and the vendor doesn't want to sell.
  Cheers

Nahum Laufer
http://onedayafterpeace.com/index.php
http://docsforeducation.com/ 
Sales
Docs for Education
Erez Laufer Films
Holland st 10 
Afulla 18371
Israel




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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 14:24:06 +
From: "Hutchison, Jane" 
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Your reactions to streaming terms?
To: "'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu'" 
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These terms are not acceptable and we would not agree to them.  And to
follow the previous posting, one doesn't need PPR for streaming.  Streaming
for us is from a password protected site for our students and staff and is
not shown publically.  We license for our institution only.  Adding PPR is
another way to obtain more money for the title when it is not needed.

Jane B. Hutchison
Associate Director
Instruction & Research Technology
300 Pompton Road
Wayne, NJ 07470
(w)973-720-2980
(cell) 973-418-7727


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relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.