Re: [Videolib] Alternative films to Tig
For what it's worth, I've seen the documentary Tig, am a big Tig Notaro fan, and was disappointed. The structure was pretty flat, more tell you how to feel than show you (with some really stale music cues / choices that kind of drag you by the ear). If you are familiar with her work, you don't really learn anything new. The group might do better licensing the audio of her famous Largo show -- a much rawer, more emotional, and complete experience in my opinion. But, it does bundle a number of topics that are pretty current in trying to tell her story. One additional angle that might be of interest for those coming up with alternatives is the issue of fertility -- the film documents her struggles to decide how to proceed with her desire to have a family while dealing with cancer treatment and the risks involved. -- Meghann Matwichuk, M.S. Associate Librarian Film and Video Collection Morris Library, University of Delaware 181 S. College Ave. Newark, DE 19717 (302) 831-1475 http://www.library.udel.edu/filmandvideo On 8/26/2015 6:20 PM, Bergman, Barbara J wrote: Tig looks like a great film. What aspects are they interested in? Women, LGBT, disease/disability, comedy…? 65_redroses is about woman with cystic fibrosis connecting with other with CIF. (No standup comedy, that I recall.) http://www.rocoeducational.com/65_red_roses I know there are a couple films about comedians with disabilities, but blanking on titles. Barb Bergman | Media Services Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu mailto:barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Hooper, Lisa K *Sent:* Wednesday, August 26, 2015 4:31 PM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* [Videolib] Alternative films to Tig Greetings everyone, A group here on campus was very interested in hosting a screening of Tig https://youtu.be/eO7kJ0j4Qzw. Unfortunately the distributor declined our request. I just watched the trailer and it’s fantastic looking, but that is making it that much harder for me to think of an alternative, similarly themed film that we could use in its place. Does anyone on this list have suggestions? Thanks! -lisa H. Music Media Librarian Howard-Tilton Memorial Library Tulane University 504.314.7822 @lkHMusLibrarian www.facebook.com/TulaneMusicAndMediaCenter http://www.facebook.com/TulaneMusicAndMediaCenter http://www.library.tulane.edu/libraries/mmc http://bamboulanola.tumblr.com/ VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Alternative films to Tig
Thanks for the suggestion Barb. This is indeed an interesting looking film but they are looking for something with the incredibly broad theme of resilience. They group selecting the films are three very strong women and their film selections often end up being about women's issues and/or LGBT issues, although they are certainly not limited by this subject parameter. I have a few ideas lined up already but I was hoping there was something closer to Tig than what I've got already. -lisa From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Bergman, Barbara J Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 5:20 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Alternative films to Tig Tig looks like a great film. What aspects are they interested in? Women, LGBT, disease/disability, comedy...? 65_redroses is about woman with cystic fibrosis connecting with other with CIF. (No standup comedy, that I recall.) http://www.rocoeducational.com/65_red_roses I know there are a couple films about comedians with disabilities, but blanking on titles. Barb Bergman | Media Services Interlibrary Loan Librarian | Minnesota State University, Mankato | (507) 389-5945 | barbara.berg...@mnsu.edumailto:barbara.berg...@mnsu.edu From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Hooper, Lisa K Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 4:31 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: [Videolib] Alternative films to Tig Greetings everyone, A group here on campus was very interested in hosting a screening of Tighttps://youtu.be/eO7kJ0j4Qzw. Unfortunately the distributor declined our request. I just watched the trailer and it's fantastic looking, but that is making it that much harder for me to think of an alternative, similarly themed film that we could use in its place. Does anyone on this list have suggestions? Thanks! -lisa H. Music Media Librarian Howard-Tilton Memorial Library Tulane University 504.314.7822 @lkHMusLibrarian www.facebook.com/TulaneMusicAndMediaCenterhttp://www.facebook.com/TulaneMusicAndMediaCenter http://www.library.tulane.edu/libraries/mmc http://bamboulanola.tumblr.com/ VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Grassroots collaboration Was RE: Copyright question: American Playhouse Films
Dennis, I hope the NMM Board will consider you to be its guest speaker, or at least panel presenter at the 2016 NMM! ☺ I also look forward to seeing your film in the near future. Best, Mo From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Dennis Doros Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 11:23 AM To: Video Library questions videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Grassroots collaboration Was RE: Copyright question: American Playhouse Films And I too have to send my regrets, but as those on our mailing list know, Amy and I have produced our first feature film ever (http://filmbysamuelbeckett.com/) --ironically, some of it's based on fair use -- and it's having it's world premiere on October 17th. To be honest, my travel these days is mostly regarding the politics and laws to save films, the fight to preserve ALL materials (outtakes and unknown films along with digital-born works are being left behind), and any of my knowledge of copyright is just an outgrowth of those efforts. Distribution allows me to afford to do that. I do agree with Jessica that most of these meetings on fair use have been unbalanced without representatives of rights holders present and there's a lot of wringing of hands over the perceived strength of the copyright holders. The reality is that with the internet, copyright infringement is so vast that the rights holders have almost zero control of their materials these days. And most studios are afraid to sue over new technology uses because they are afraid of losing. And they're fairly ignorant on copyright as it turns out. (I hear about their meetings and it's not impressive.) The multitude of copyright laws across the world also create further confusion. BUT -- I've stayed with this listserv for many years and have waged battles, expressed sympathy and celebrated triumphs with many of you (still waiting for that Cubs miracle) because I do believe that this is the best forum for discussing our differences. I do have a life long love of librarians as the keepers of culture. (Though to be brutally honest, if you truly believe you are preservationists, you would be participating in AMIA and attend their events because the preservation world in regards to multimedia is changing rapidly. Did you know that polyester mag tracks are now threatened? That was last week's news at The Reel Thing.) So, if we could discuss a 2016 NMM meeting, I'd love to come out and work with you all on a platform where institutional budgets and rights holder interests can be debated and a statement of best practices can be made. Best regards, Dennis Doros Milestone Film Video PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640 Phone: 201-767-3117tel:201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035tel:201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.commailto:milefi...@gmail.com Visit our main website! www.milestonefilms.comhttp://www.milestonefilms.com/ Visit our new websites! www.mspresents.comhttp://www.mspresents.com, www.portraitofjason.comhttp://www.portraitofjason.com, www.shirleyclarkefilms.comhttp://www.shirleyclarkefilms.com/, To see or download our 2014 Video Catalog, click herehttps://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0150/7896/files/2015MilestoneVideoCatalog.pdf?2223081985127089573! Support Milestone Film on Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/pages/Milestone-Film/22348485426 and Twitterhttps://twitter.com/#!/MilestoneFilms! On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.commailto:jessicapros...@gmail.com wrote: Alas I won't be at NMM and I doubt Dennis will be either and this brings up what I think is the biggest problem when discussing copyright and streaming at educational institutions. I see lots of posts here and on colib for webinars, sessions, conferences devoted to the issue but only once did I see one which actually included a representative of a major\ rights holders. I am happy to be corrected as I don't follow every listing but it seems like the same experts from either universities or people from organizations often hostile to rights holders involved. Not my favorite group but has anyone from MPAA ever been involved. or from a major studio or company? Dennis and I poke our heads in here but without the participation of an intellectual property lawyer it strikes me that too much takes place in vacuum with only one view represented The other huge problem is that the issue of what constitutes fair use in streaming is totally separate from tracking down the right holder. The plain fact is that there tens of thousands of films for which you simply can not obtain the streaming rights. There are massive numbers of film that have no current US distribution but the all except the small number of PD titles have rights holders. Those made outside the US may never have had US distribution , others may have in the past but the contract has expired and reverted back to someone outside the US. They are
Re: [Videolib] Grassroots collaboration Was RE: Copyright question: American Playhouse Films
Good points, Jessica. I would want to participate in a forum with all parties involved. Another huge problem is, as you post, tracking down right holders for international films. *sighs* Best, Mo From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 10:46 AM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Grassroots collaboration Was RE: Copyright question: American Playhouse Films Alas I won't be at NMM and I doubt Dennis will be either and this brings up what I think is the biggest problem when discussing copyright and streaming at educational institutions. I see lots of posts here and on colib for webinars, sessions, conferences devoted to the issue but only once did I see one which actually included a representative of a major\ rights holders. I am happy to be corrected as I don't follow every listing but it seems like the same experts from either universities or people from organizations often hostile to rights holders involved. Not my favorite group but has anyone from MPAA ever been involved. or from a major studio or company? Dennis and I poke our heads in here but without the participation of an intellectual property lawyer it strikes me that too much takes place in vacuum with only one view represented The other huge problem is that the issue of what constitutes fair use in streaming is totally separate from tracking down the right holder. The plain fact is that there tens of thousands of films for which you simply can not obtain the streaming rights. There are massive numbers of film that have no current US distribution but the all except the small number of PD titles have rights holders. Those made outside the US may never have had US distribution , others may have in the past but the contract has expired and reverted back to someone outside the US. They are difficult but not impossible to track down but frankly in the majority of cases they are not interested in making a deal for one film for one institution. Its a bitch but it is their right. Likewise a lot of American indie films have expired contracts and have pretty much identical issues with the foreign films. Even if you find the rights holder there is reasonable chance especially with a film older than 10 years that they do not own those rights because the were not in the original contract and require getting permission and paying multiple parties. Fun stuff. On the positive side streaming is something most rights holders want to offer so they are usually aggressively working on it but there can be all kinds of legal, financial and technical issues that they have to clear. I think librarians need to make a concerted effort to fulfill a streaming request but at the same time they also have to accept and get the instructor to accept that not every film can be streamed and they might have to consider options like a different title or actually having students watch it on a DVD ( if you have a legal copy of that) Librarians and rights holders should absolutely be working together on these issues. Clearly if a rights holder has to surmount costly issues to make a film available for streaming then knowing libraries want to purchase it will help. I think accessing feature films at least through Hulu, Amazon, Fandor etc is honestly more practical in many cases at least for films that played in theaters not those made or focused on the educational market Bottom line educational institutions and rights holders must work together but it needs to be broader group of rights holders and instructors need to understand that they can't stream every film they might want. Jessica On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Sarah E. McCleskey sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edumailto:sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu wrote: Yes, I agree that a WebEx or another remote conferencing tool would be great. Thanks for the feedback so far. I think this is something that we can do. Sarah From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jodie Borgerding Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 1:20 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Grassroots collaboration Was RE: Copyright question: American Playhouse Films I can’t make it to NMM either but my university has a WebEx license so I would be more than happy to “host” a discussion. Jodie Jodie L. Borgerding, M.L.S. Instruction and Liaison Librarian Emerson Library Webster University 470 E. Lockwood St. Louis, MO 63119 (314) 246-7819tel:%28314%29%20246-7819 jborgerdin...@webster.edumailto:jborgerdin...@webster.edu http://libguides.webster.edu/soc http://libguides.webster.edu/english http://libguides.webster.edu/zombies “Chuck Norris doesn't read books. He
Re: [Videolib] Grassroots collaboration Was RE: Copyright question: American Playhouse Films
And I too have to send my regrets, but as those on our mailing list know, Amy and I have produced our first feature film ever ( http://filmbysamuelbeckett.com/) --ironically, some of it's based on fair use -- and it's having it's world premiere on October 17th. To be honest, my travel these days is mostly regarding the politics and laws to save films, the fight to preserve ALL materials (outtakes and unknown films along with digital-born works are being left behind), and any of my knowledge of copyright is just an outgrowth of those efforts. Distribution allows me to afford to do that. I do agree with Jessica that *most* of these meetings on fair use have been unbalanced without representatives of rights holders present and there's a lot of wringing of hands over the perceived strength of the copyright holders. The reality is that with the internet, copyright infringement is so vast that the rights holders have almost zero control of their materials these days. And most studios are afraid to sue over new technology uses because they are afraid of losing. And they're fairly ignorant on copyright as it turns out. (I hear about their meetings and it's not impressive.) The multitude of copyright laws across the world also create further confusion. BUT -- I've stayed with this listserv for many years and have waged battles, expressed sympathy and celebrated triumphs with many of you ( *still* waiting for that Cubs miracle) because I do believe that this is the best forum for discussing our differences. I do have a life long love of librarians as the keepers of culture. (Though to be brutally honest, if you truly believe you are preservationists, you would be participating in AMIA and attend their events because the preservation world in regards to multimedia is changing rapidly. Did you know that polyester mag tracks are now threatened? That was last week's news at The Reel Thing.) So, if we could discuss a 2016 NMM meeting, I'd love to come out and work with you all on a platform where institutional budgets and rights holder interests can be debated and a statement of best practices can be made. Best regards, Dennis Doros Milestone Film Video PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640 Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.com Visit our main website! www.milestonefilms.com Visit our new websites! www.mspresents.com, www.portraitofjason.com, www.shirleyclarkefilms.com, To see or download our 2014 Video Catalog, click here https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0150/7896/files/2015MilestoneVideoCatalog.pdf?2223081985127089573 ! Support Milestone Film on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/pages/Milestone-Film/22348485426 and Twitter https://twitter.com/#!/MilestoneFilms! On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com wrote: Alas I won't be at NMM and I doubt Dennis will be either and this brings up what I think is the biggest problem when discussing copyright and streaming at educational institutions. I see lots of posts here and on colib for webinars, sessions, conferences devoted to the issue but only once did I see one which actually included a representative of a major\ rights holders. I am happy to be corrected as I don't follow every listing but it seems like the same experts from either universities or people from organizations often hostile to rights holders involved. Not my favorite group but has anyone from MPAA ever been involved. or from a major studio or company? Dennis and I poke our heads in here but without the participation of an intellectual property lawyer it strikes me that too much takes place in vacuum with only one view represented The other huge problem is that the issue of what constitutes fair use in streaming is totally separate from tracking down the right holder. The plain fact is that there tens of thousands of films for which you simply can not obtain the streaming rights. There are massive numbers of film that have no current US distribution but the all except the small number of PD titles have rights holders. Those made outside the US may never have had US distribution , others may have in the past but the contract has expired and reverted back to someone outside the US. They are difficult but not impossible to track down but frankly in the majority of cases they are not interested in making a deal for one film for one institution. Its a bitch but it is their right. Likewise a lot of American indie films have expired contracts and have pretty much identical issues with the foreign films. Even if you find the rights holder there is reasonable chance especially with a film older than 10 years that they do not own those rights because the were not in the original contract and require getting permission and paying multiple parties. Fun stuff. On the positive side streaming is something most rights holders want to offer so they are usually aggressively working on it but there can be all kinds of
Re: [Videolib] Grassroots collaboration Was RE: Copyright question: American Playhouse Films
ugh NO interest in licensing not KNOW On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Jessica Rosner maddux2...@gmail.com wrote: It is very hard to track down international films but with a lot of work you can usually find rights holder. I honestly think the bigger problem is that even if you find the rights holder they are likely to have know interest in licensing the film to you as their goal is to have a US distributor. Many years ago on an utterly unrelated rights issue a major ( studio) rights holder told a small company wanting to license a film for VHS ( yes that long ago) that the studio was never going to put out itself that It will cost more money for our lawyers to read the contract than we will ever make . That sounds nasty but it happens to be true. Now every once in a while there is a happy story ( I remember putting someone in touch with the director of Quartier Mozart and he owned the rights himself and was happy to make a deal) but more often it is like the reaction above and again it is actually true that for a company like Gaumont,Bavaria or Universal it would be too expensive to license a single title to an institution and it gets worse for situations where you have made for TV, or indie older films or other types for which streaming is not even available unless the entire contract is redone Honestly I would just skip trying to get streaming rights and focus on seeing if you can find a legal DVD import to put on reserve and have the equipment to play it on. On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Threatt, Monique Louise mthre...@indiana.edu wrote: Good points, Jessica. I would want to participate in a forum with all parties involved. Another huge problem is, as you post, tracking down right holders for international films. **sighs** Best, Mo *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner *Sent:* Thursday, August 27, 2015 10:46 AM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Grassroots collaboration Was RE: Copyright question: American Playhouse Films Alas I won't be at NMM and I doubt Dennis will be either and this brings up what I think is the biggest problem when discussing copyright and streaming at educational institutions. I see lots of posts here and on colib for webinars, sessions, conferences devoted to the issue but only once did I see one which actually included a representative of a major\ rights holders. I am happy to be corrected as I don't follow every listing but it seems like the same experts from either universities or people from organizations often hostile to rights holders involved. Not my favorite group but has anyone from MPAA ever been involved. or from a major studio or company? Dennis and I poke our heads in here but without the participation of an intellectual property lawyer it strikes me that too much takes place in vacuum with only one view represented The other huge problem is that the issue of what constitutes fair use in streaming is totally separate from tracking down the right holder. The plain fact is that there tens of thousands of films for which you simply can not obtain the streaming rights. There are massive numbers of film that have no current US distribution but the all except the small number of PD titles have rights holders. Those made outside the US may never have had US distribution , others may have in the past but the contract has expired and reverted back to someone outside the US. They are difficult but not impossible to track down but frankly in the majority of cases they are not interested in making a deal for one film for one institution. Its a bitch but it is their right. Likewise a lot of American indie films have expired contracts and have pretty much identical issues with the foreign films. Even if you find the rights holder there is reasonable chance especially with a film older than 10 years that they do not own those rights because the were not in the original contract and require getting permission and paying multiple parties. Fun stuff. On the positive side streaming is something most rights holders want to offer so they are usually aggressively working on it but there can be all kinds of legal, financial and technical issues that they have to clear. I think librarians need to make a concerted effort to fulfill a streaming request but at the same time they also have to accept and get the instructor to accept that not every film can be streamed and they might have to consider options like a different title or actually having students watch it on a DVD ( if you have a legal copy of that) Librarians and rights holders should absolutely be working together on these issues. Clearly if a rights holder has to surmount costly issues to make a film available for streaming then knowing libraries want to purchase it will help. I think accessing feature films at
Re: [Videolib] Grassroots collaboration Was RE: Copyright question: American Playhouse Films
It is very hard to track down international films but with a lot of work you can usually find rights holder. I honestly think the bigger problem is that even if you find the rights holder they are likely to have know interest in licensing the film to you as their goal is to have a US distributor. Many years ago on an utterly unrelated rights issue a major ( studio) rights holder told a small company wanting to license a film for VHS ( yes that long ago) that the studio was never going to put out itself that It will cost more money for our lawyers to read the contract than we will ever make . That sounds nasty but it happens to be true. Now every once in a while there is a happy story ( I remember putting someone in touch with the director of Quartier Mozart and he owned the rights himself and was happy to make a deal) but more often it is like the reaction above and again it is actually true that for a company like Gaumont,Bavaria or Universal it would be too expensive to license a single title to an institution and it gets worse for situations where you have made for TV, or indie older films or other types for which streaming is not even available unless the entire contract is redone Honestly I would just skip trying to get streaming rights and focus on seeing if you can find a legal DVD import to put on reserve and have the equipment to play it on. On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Threatt, Monique Louise mthre...@indiana.edu wrote: Good points, Jessica. I would want to participate in a forum with all parties involved. Another huge problem is, as you post, tracking down right holders for international films. **sighs** Best, Mo *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner *Sent:* Thursday, August 27, 2015 10:46 AM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Grassroots collaboration Was RE: Copyright question: American Playhouse Films Alas I won't be at NMM and I doubt Dennis will be either and this brings up what I think is the biggest problem when discussing copyright and streaming at educational institutions. I see lots of posts here and on colib for webinars, sessions, conferences devoted to the issue but only once did I see one which actually included a representative of a major\ rights holders. I am happy to be corrected as I don't follow every listing but it seems like the same experts from either universities or people from organizations often hostile to rights holders involved. Not my favorite group but has anyone from MPAA ever been involved. or from a major studio or company? Dennis and I poke our heads in here but without the participation of an intellectual property lawyer it strikes me that too much takes place in vacuum with only one view represented The other huge problem is that the issue of what constitutes fair use in streaming is totally separate from tracking down the right holder. The plain fact is that there tens of thousands of films for which you simply can not obtain the streaming rights. There are massive numbers of film that have no current US distribution but the all except the small number of PD titles have rights holders. Those made outside the US may never have had US distribution , others may have in the past but the contract has expired and reverted back to someone outside the US. They are difficult but not impossible to track down but frankly in the majority of cases they are not interested in making a deal for one film for one institution. Its a bitch but it is their right. Likewise a lot of American indie films have expired contracts and have pretty much identical issues with the foreign films. Even if you find the rights holder there is reasonable chance especially with a film older than 10 years that they do not own those rights because the were not in the original contract and require getting permission and paying multiple parties. Fun stuff. On the positive side streaming is something most rights holders want to offer so they are usually aggressively working on it but there can be all kinds of legal, financial and technical issues that they have to clear. I think librarians need to make a concerted effort to fulfill a streaming request but at the same time they also have to accept and get the instructor to accept that not every film can be streamed and they might have to consider options like a different title or actually having students watch it on a DVD ( if you have a legal copy of that) Librarians and rights holders should absolutely be working together on these issues. Clearly if a rights holder has to surmount costly issues to make a film available for streaming then knowing libraries want to purchase it will help. I think accessing feature films at least through Hulu, Amazon, Fandor etc is honestly more practical in many cases at least for films that played in theaters not those made or
Re: [Videolib] Grassroots collaboration Was RE: Copyright question: American Playhouse Films
Alas I won't be at NMM and I doubt Dennis will be either and this brings up what I think is the biggest problem when discussing copyright and streaming at educational institutions. I see lots of posts here and on colib for webinars, sessions, conferences devoted to the issue but only once did I see one which actually included a representative of a major\ rights holders. I am happy to be corrected as I don't follow every listing but it seems like the same experts from either universities or people from organizations often hostile to rights holders involved. Not my favorite group but has anyone from MPAA ever been involved. or from a major studio or company? Dennis and I poke our heads in here but without the participation of an intellectual property lawyer it strikes me that too much takes place in vacuum with only one view represented The other huge problem is that the issue of what constitutes fair use in streaming is totally separate from tracking down the right holder. The plain fact is that there tens of thousands of films for which you simply can not obtain the streaming rights. There are massive numbers of film that have no current US distribution but the all except the small number of PD titles have rights holders. Those made outside the US may never have had US distribution , others may have in the past but the contract has expired and reverted back to someone outside the US. They are difficult but not impossible to track down but frankly in the majority of cases they are not interested in making a deal for one film for one institution. Its a bitch but it is their right. Likewise a lot of American indie films have expired contracts and have pretty much identical issues with the foreign films. Even if you find the rights holder there is reasonable chance especially with a film older than 10 years that they do not own those rights because the were not in the original contract and require getting permission and paying multiple parties. Fun stuff. On the positive side streaming is something most rights holders want to offer so they are usually aggressively working on it but there can be all kinds of legal, financial and technical issues that they have to clear. I think librarians need to make a concerted effort to fulfill a streaming request but at the same time they also have to accept and get the instructor to accept that not every film can be streamed and they might have to consider options like a different title or actually having students watch it on a DVD ( if you have a legal copy of that) Librarians and rights holders should absolutely be working together on these issues. Clearly if a rights holder has to surmount costly issues to make a film available for streaming then knowing libraries want to purchase it will help. I think accessing feature films at least through Hulu, Amazon, Fandor etc is honestly more practical in many cases at least for films that played in theaters not those made or focused on the educational market Bottom line educational institutions and rights holders must work together but it needs to be broader group of rights holders and instructors need to understand that they can't stream every film they might want. Jessica On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Sarah E. McCleskey sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu wrote: Yes, I agree that a WebEx or another remote conferencing tool would be great. Thanks for the feedback so far. I think this is something that we can do. Sarah *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jodie Borgerding *Sent:* Wednesday, August 26, 2015 1:20 PM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Grassroots collaboration Was RE: Copyright question: American Playhouse Films I can’t make it to NMM either but my university has a WebEx license so I would be more than happy to “host” a discussion. Jodie Jodie L. Borgerding, M.L.S. Instruction and Liaison Librarian Emerson Library Webster University 470 E. Lockwood St. Louis, MO 63119 (314) 246-7819 jborgerdin...@webster.edu http://libguides.webster.edu/soc http://libguides.webster.edu/english http://libguides.webster.edu/zombies “Chuck Norris doesn't read books. He stares them down until he gets the information he wants.” *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [ mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Hooper, Lisa K *Sent:* Wednesday, August 26, 2015 12:12 PM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Grassroots collaboration Was RE: Copyright question: American Playhouse Films Yes! I can’t make it to NMM this year but would *love* to be a part of this discussion! -lisa H. Music Media Librarian Howard-Tilton Memorial Library Tulane University 504.314.7822 @lkHMusLibrarian www.facebook.com/TulaneMusicAndMediaCenter
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Thanks, Mo! Maureen and I slayed NMM back in Nevada. Well, not literally. I mean, that's possibly worse than copyright infringement. At best, it's impolite. But we had a good time presenting. :-) Best regards, Dennis Doros Milestone Film Video PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640 Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.com Visit our main website! www.milestonefilms.com Visit our new websites! www.mspresents.com, www.portraitofjason.com, www.shirleyclarkefilms.com, To see or download our 2014 Video Catalog, click here https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0150/7896/files/2015MilestoneVideoCatalog.pdf?2223081985127089573 ! Support Milestone Film on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/pages/Milestone-Film/22348485426 and Twitter https://twitter.com/#!/MilestoneFilms! On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Threatt, Monique Louise mthre...@indiana.edu wrote: Dennis, I hope the NMM Board will consider you to be its guest speaker, or at least panel presenter at the 2016 NMM! J I also look forward to seeing your film in the near future. Best, Mo *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Dennis Doros *Sent:* Thursday, August 27, 2015 11:23 AM *To:* Video Library questions videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Grassroots collaboration Was RE: Copyright question: American Playhouse Films And I too have to send my regrets, but as those on our mailing list know, Amy and I have produced our first feature film ever ( http://filmbysamuelbeckett.com/) --ironically, some of it's based on fair use -- and it's having it's world premiere on October 17th. To be honest, my travel these days is mostly regarding the politics and laws to save films, the fight to preserve ALL materials (outtakes and unknown films along with digital-born works are being left behind), and any of my knowledge of copyright is just an outgrowth of those efforts. Distribution allows me to afford to do that. I do agree with Jessica that *most* of these meetings on fair use have been unbalanced without representatives of rights holders present and there's a lot of wringing of hands over the perceived strength of the copyright holders. The reality is that with the internet, copyright infringement is so vast that the rights holders have almost zero control of their materials these days. And most studios are afraid to sue over new technology uses because they are afraid of losing. And they're fairly ignorant on copyright as it turns out. (I hear about their meetings and it's not impressive.) The multitude of copyright laws across the world also create further confusion. BUT -- I've stayed with this listserv for many years and have waged battles, expressed sympathy and celebrated triumphs with many of you ( *still* waiting for that Cubs miracle) because I do believe that this is the best forum for discussing our differences. I do have a life long love of librarians as the keepers of culture. (Though to be brutally honest, if you truly believe you are preservationists, you would be participating in AMIA and attend their events because the preservation world in regards to multimedia is changing rapidly. Did you know that polyester mag tracks are now threatened? That was last week's news at The Reel Thing.) So, if we could discuss a 2016 NMM meeting, I'd love to come out and work with you all on a platform where institutional budgets and rights holder interests can be debated and a statement of best practices can be made. Best regards, Dennis Doros Milestone Film Video PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640 Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.com Visit our main website! www.milestonefilms.com Visit our new websites! www.mspresents.com, www.portraitofjason.com, www.shirleyclarkefilms.com, To see or download our 2014 Video Catalog, click here https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0150/7896/files/2015MilestoneVideoCatalog.pdf?2223081985127089573 ! Support Milestone Film on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/pages/Milestone-Film/22348485426 and Twitter https://twitter.com/#!/MilestoneFilms! On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com wrote: Alas I won't be at NMM and I doubt Dennis will be either and this brings up what I think is the biggest problem when discussing copyright and streaming at educational institutions. I see lots of posts here and on colib for webinars, sessions, conferences devoted to the issue but only once did I see one which actually included a representative of a major\ rights holders. I am happy to be corrected as I don't follow every listing but it seems like the same experts from either universities or people from organizations often hostile to rights holders involved. Not my favorite group but has anyone from MPAA ever been involved. or from a major studio or company? Dennis and
Re: [Videolib] Alternative films to Tig
Hi Meghann, We just reviewed “On Her Own” in our latest issue. It definitely seems to be about “resilience.” On Her Own (2015) 80 min. DVD: $59.95 ($250 w/PPR from edu.passionriver.com). Passion River (avail. from most distributors on Sept. 22). A remarkable documentary charting four years in the life of a fifth-generation rancher-farmer named Nancy Prebilich, filmmaker Morgan Schmidt-Feng’s On Her Own tells a haunting, tragic story about the fate of family farms in America today. The story begins in 2009, at the beginning of the Great Recession, as Nancy, her parents, and her sister’s family—all sharing a large farm with horses, pigs, cows, fowl, and rabbits—begin to feel the pinch of a collapsing economy. Nancy, single and youthful, is unafraid of hard, physical work and being mindful of her parents’ age she becomes more involved with learning all aspects of the ranching operation. As the years pass, Nancy’s foals die, monthly mortgages go unpaid, the land and buildings fall into disrepair, and family tensions flare as disagreements arise about how to hold onto a joint livelihood. Throughout, the film captures all aspects of work on a family farm—the emotional highs and lows, daily dramas, hopes, and disappointments. Nancy becomes wiser while also growing somewhat more resigned (she ages considerably in the face of mounting burdens), yet her capacity for reinvention and overriding generosity of spirit are deeply inspiring. Highly recommended. Aud: C, P (T. Keogh) Best, Randy Randy Pitman Publisher/Editor Video Librarian 3435 NE Nine Boulder Dr. Poulsbo, WA 98370 Tel: (360) 626-1259 Fax (360) 626-1260 E-mail: vid...@videolibrarian.com Web: www.videolibrarian.com From: Meghann Matwichuk Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 12:36 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Alternative films to Tig Jessica mentioned that 'resilience' is the theme her patrons are looking to highlight. Towards that end, I wonder if this film might be of interest: Charles Bradley: Soul of America http://www.charlesbradleyfilm.com/store.php It's been a few years since I saw this on the festival circuit, but I remember thinking it was a great music doc. So there's the artist angle, and certainly the resilience angle. Could be worth checking out -- and, good to see that it's found a DVD distributor, so I can order it for our collection now! Another that I haven't seen but read about recently (even has 'resilience' in the tagline): http://onherownfilm.com/ Looks like it's on the festival circuit now, so may be easier to license? Best, -- Meghann Matwichuk, M.S. Associate Librarian Film and Video Collection Morris Library, University of Delaware 181 S. College Ave. Newark, DE 19717 (302) 831-1475 http://www.library.udel.edu/filmandvideo On 8/27/2015 2:38 PM, Mathew Levy wrote: Thanks Randy. FYI we also handle MITT, which is the Netflix Original Mitt Romney documentary following him and his family on their campaign trail in the last election. In terms of similar films to TIG, what elements were you looking for? Films about comedians, biographies, or cancer/medical stories? I am sure all of us distributors are happy to make recommendations based on those specific needs. Best, Mat On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Randy Pitman vid...@videolibrarian.com wrote: Hi Jessica, Haven’t seen anything on “Virunga,” but Passion River is selling the Netflix doc “Print the Legend” on the market competition between manufacturers of 3D printers. Best, Randy Randy Pitman Publisher/Editor Video Librarian 3435 NE Nine Boulder Dr. Poulsbo, WA 98370 Tel: (360) 626-1259 Fax (360) 626-1260 E-mail: vid...@videolibrarian.com Web: www.videolibrarian.com From: Jessica Rosner Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 2:55 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Alternative films to Tig Sorry can't help think of an alternative but just know you are not alone. The Netflix model has been to only allow docs they buy to show in NY LA to make them Academy qualified and then refuse all other requests from theaters to colleges. A lot of venues really wanted to show the Nina Simone doc and others but were blown off. I am not even sure if Netflix ever releases their docs on DVD/blu ray Anyone know if you can legally buy a copy of VIRUNGA? Jessica On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Hooper, Lisa K lhoop...@tulane.edu wrote: Greetings everyone, A group here on campus was very interested in hosting a screening of Tig. Unfortunately the distributor declined our request. I just watched the trailer and it’s fantastic looking, but that is making it that much harder for me to think of an alternative, similarly themed film that we could use in its place. Does anyone on this list have suggestions? Thanks! -lisa H. Music Media Librarian
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Hi Mat, The overriding theme for this film series is resilience (we are, after all, marking Katrina10 in a big way down here). We already have several Katrina film options so we’re now looking for other issues that can be associated with the concept of resilience; it could be illness, race, LGBT, gender, etc. The field is, actually, pretty wide open. The people making the final selection tend to like films that are recent productions, have a rapid pace (our students lose interest far too quickly), have a high production quality a la Hollywood (for the same reason), and are easily accessible. I think Tig stood out because it appeared to meet all four criteria. Thanks! -lisa From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Mathew Levy Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 1:38 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Alternative films to Tig Thanks Randy. FYI we also handle MITT, which is the Netflix Original Mitt Romney documentary following him and his family on their campaign trail in the last election. In terms of similar films to TIG, what elements were you looking for? Films about comedians, biographies, or cancer/medical stories? I am sure all of us distributors are happy to make recommendations based on those specific needs. Best, Mat On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Randy Pitman vid...@videolibrarian.commailto:vid...@videolibrarian.com wrote: Hi Jessica, Haven’t seen anything on “Virunga,” but Passion River is selling the Netflix doc “Print the Legend” on the market competition between manufacturers of 3D printers. Best, Randy Randy Pitman Publisher/Editor Video Librarian 3435 NE Nine Boulder Dr. Poulsbo, WA 98370 Tel: (360) 626-1259tel:%28360%29%20626-1259 Fax (360) 626-1260tel:%28360%29%20626-1260 E-mail: vid...@videolibrarian.commailto:vid...@videolibrarian.com Web: www.videolibrarian.comhttp://www.videolibrarian.com From: Jessica Rosnermailto:maddux2...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 2:55 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Alternative films to Tig Sorry can't help think of an alternative but just know you are not alone. The Netflix model has been to only allow docs they buy to show in NY LA to make them Academy qualified and then refuse all other requests from theaters to colleges. A lot of venues really wanted to show the Nina Simone doc and others but were blown off. I am not even sure if Netflix ever releases their docs on DVD/blu ray Anyone know if you can legally buy a copy of VIRUNGA? Jessica On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Hooper, Lisa K lhoop...@tulane.edumailto:lhoop...@tulane.edu wrote: Greetings everyone, A group here on campus was very interested in hosting a screening of Tighttps://youtu.be/eO7kJ0j4Qzw. Unfortunately the distributor declined our request. I just watched the trailer and it’s fantastic looking, but that is making it that much harder for me to think of an alternative, similarly themed film that we could use in its place. Does anyone on this list have suggestions? Thanks! -lisa H. Music Media Librarian Howard-Tilton Memorial Library Tulane University 504.314.7822tel:504.314.7822 @lkHMusLibrarian www.facebook.com/TulaneMusicAndMediaCenterhttp://www.facebook.com/TulaneMusicAndMediaCenter http://www.library.tulane.edu/libraries/mmc http://bamboulanola.tumblr.com/ VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- -- Mathew Levy Senior Director of Sales and Acquisitions Passion River Films
Re: [Videolib] Grassroots collaboration Was RE: Copyright question: American Playhouse Films
Yaaay! From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Dennis Doros Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 3:35 PM To: Video Library questions videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Grassroots collaboration Was RE: Copyright question: American Playhouse Films Thanks, Mo! Maureen and I slayed NMM back in Nevada. Well, not literally. I mean, that's possibly worse than copyright infringement. At best, it's impolite. But we had a good time presenting. :-) Best regards, Dennis Doros Milestone Film Video PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640 Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.commailto:milefi...@gmail.com Visit our main website! www.milestonefilms.comhttp://www.milestonefilms.com/ Visit our new websites! www.mspresents.comhttp://www.mspresents.com, www.portraitofjason.comhttp://www.portraitofjason.com, www.shirleyclarkefilms.comhttp://www.shirleyclarkefilms.com/, To see or download our 2014 Video Catalog, click herehttps://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0150/7896/files/2015MilestoneVideoCatalog.pdf?2223081985127089573! Support Milestone Film on Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/pages/Milestone-Film/22348485426 and Twitterhttps://twitter.com/#!/MilestoneFilms! On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Threatt, Monique Louise mthre...@indiana.edumailto:mthre...@indiana.edu wrote: Dennis, I hope the NMM Board will consider you to be its guest speaker, or at least panel presenter at the 2016 NMM! ☺ I also look forward to seeing your film in the near future. Best, Mo From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Dennis Doros Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 11:23 AM To: Video Library questions videolib@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Grassroots collaboration Was RE: Copyright question: American Playhouse Films And I too have to send my regrets, but as those on our mailing list know, Amy and I have produced our first feature film ever (http://filmbysamuelbeckett.com/) --ironically, some of it's based on fair use -- and it's having it's world premiere on October 17th. To be honest, my travel these days is mostly regarding the politics and laws to save films, the fight to preserve ALL materials (outtakes and unknown films along with digital-born works are being left behind), and any of my knowledge of copyright is just an outgrowth of those efforts. Distribution allows me to afford to do that. I do agree with Jessica that most of these meetings on fair use have been unbalanced without representatives of rights holders present and there's a lot of wringing of hands over the perceived strength of the copyright holders. The reality is that with the internet, copyright infringement is so vast that the rights holders have almost zero control of their materials these days. And most studios are afraid to sue over new technology uses because they are afraid of losing. And they're fairly ignorant on copyright as it turns out. (I hear about their meetings and it's not impressive.) The multitude of copyright laws across the world also create further confusion. BUT -- I've stayed with this listserv for many years and have waged battles, expressed sympathy and celebrated triumphs with many of you (still waiting for that Cubs miracle) because I do believe that this is the best forum for discussing our differences. I do have a life long love of librarians as the keepers of culture. (Though to be brutally honest, if you truly believe you are preservationists, you would be participating in AMIA and attend their events because the preservation world in regards to multimedia is changing rapidly. Did you know that polyester mag tracks are now threatened? That was last week's news at The Reel Thing.) So, if we could discuss a 2016 NMM meeting, I'd love to come out and work with you all on a platform where institutional budgets and rights holder interests can be debated and a statement of best practices can be made. Best regards, Dennis Doros Milestone Film Video PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640 Phone: 201-767-3117tel:201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035tel:201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.commailto:milefi...@gmail.com Visit our main website! www.milestonefilms.comhttp://www.milestonefilms.com/ Visit our new websites! www.mspresents.comhttp://www.mspresents.com, www.portraitofjason.comhttp://www.portraitofjason.com, www.shirleyclarkefilms.comhttp://www.shirleyclarkefilms.com/, To see or download our 2014 Video Catalog, click herehttps://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0150/7896/files/2015MilestoneVideoCatalog.pdf?2223081985127089573! Support Milestone Film on Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/pages/Milestone-Film/22348485426 and Twitterhttps://twitter.com/#!/MilestoneFilms! On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Jessica
Re: [Videolib] Alternative films to Tig
Jessica mentioned that 'resilience' is the theme her patrons are looking to highlight. Towards that end, I wonder if this film might be of interest: Charles Bradley: Soul of America http://www.charlesbradleyfilm.com/store.php It's been a few years since I saw this on the festival circuit, but I remember thinking it was a great music doc. So there's the artist angle, and certainly the resilience angle. Could be worth checking out -- and, good to see that it's found a DVD distributor, so I can order it for our collection now! Another that I haven't seen but read about recently (even has 'resilience' in the tagline): http://onherownfilm.com/ Looks like it's on the festival circuit now, so may be easier to license? Best, -- Meghann Matwichuk, M.S. Associate Librarian Film and Video Collection Morris Library, University of Delaware 181 S. College Ave. Newark, DE 19717 (302) 831-1475 http://www.library.udel.edu/filmandvideo On 8/27/2015 2:38 PM, Mathew Levy wrote: Thanks Randy. FYI we also handle /MITT/, which is the Netflix Original Mitt Romney documentary following him and his family on their campaign trail in the last election. In terms of similar films to TIG, what elements were you looking for? Films about comedians, biographies, or cancer/medical stories? I am sure all of us distributors are happy to make recommendations based on those specific needs. Best, Mat On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Randy Pitman vid...@videolibrarian.com mailto:vid...@videolibrarian.com wrote: Hi Jessica, Haven’t seen anything on “Virunga,” but Passion River is selling the Netflix doc “Print the Legend” on the market competition between manufacturers of 3D printers. Best, Randy Randy Pitman Publisher/Editor Video Librarian 3435 NE Nine Boulder Dr. Poulsbo, WA 98370 Tel: (360) 626-1259 tel:%28360%29%20626-1259 Fax (360) 626-1260 tel:%28360%29%20626-1260 E-mail: vid...@videolibrarian.com mailto:vid...@videolibrarian.com Web: www.videolibrarian.com http://www.videolibrarian.com *From:* Jessica Rosner mailto:maddux2...@gmail.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 26, 2015 2:55 PM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Alternative films to Tig Sorry can't help think of an alternative but just know you are not alone. The Netflix model has been to only allow docs they buy to show in NY LA to make them Academy qualified and then refuse all other requests from theaters to colleges. A lot of venues really wanted to show the Nina Simone doc and others but were blown off. I am not even sure if Netflix ever releases their docs on DVD/blu ray Anyone know if you can legally buy a copy of VIRUNGA? Jessica On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Hooper, Lisa K lhoop...@tulane.edu mailto:lhoop...@tulane.edu wrote: Greetings everyone, A group here on campus was very interested in hosting a screening of Tig https://youtu.be/eO7kJ0j4Qzw. Unfortunately the distributor declined our request. I just watched the trailer and it’s fantastic looking, but that is making it that much harder for me to think of an alternative, similarly themed film that we could use in its place. Does anyone on this list have suggestions? Thanks! -lisa H. Music Media Librarian Howard-Tilton Memorial Library Tulane University 504.314.7822 tel:504.314.7822 @lkHMusLibrarian www.facebook.com/TulaneMusicAndMediaCenter http://www.facebook.com/TulaneMusicAndMediaCenter http://www.library.tulane.edu/libraries/mmc http://bamboulanola.tumblr.com/ VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the
Re: [Videolib] Alternative films to Tig
Thanks Randy. FYI we also handle *MITT*, which is the Netflix Original Mitt Romney documentary following him and his family on their campaign trail in the last election. In terms of similar films to TIG, what elements were you looking for? Films about comedians, biographies, or cancer/medical stories? I am sure all of us distributors are happy to make recommendations based on those specific needs. Best, Mat On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Randy Pitman vid...@videolibrarian.com wrote: Hi Jessica, Haven’t seen anything on “Virunga,” but Passion River is selling the Netflix doc “Print the Legend” on the market competition between manufacturers of 3D printers. Best, Randy Randy Pitman Publisher/Editor Video Librarian 3435 NE Nine Boulder Dr. Poulsbo, WA 98370 Tel: (360) 626-1259 Fax (360) 626-1260 E-mail: vid...@videolibrarian.com Web: www.videolibrarian.com *From:* Jessica Rosner maddux2...@gmail.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 26, 2015 2:55 PM *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Alternative films to Tig Sorry can't help think of an alternative but just know you are not alone. The Netflix model has been to only allow docs they buy to show in NY LA to make them Academy qualified and then refuse all other requests from theaters to colleges. A lot of venues really wanted to show the Nina Simone doc and others but were blown off. I am not even sure if Netflix ever releases their docs on DVD/blu ray Anyone know if you can legally buy a copy of VIRUNGA? Jessica On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Hooper, Lisa K lhoop...@tulane.edu wrote: Greetings everyone, A group here on campus was very interested in hosting a screening of Tig https://youtu.be/eO7kJ0j4Qzw. Unfortunately the distributor declined our request. I just watched the trailer and it’s fantastic looking, but that is making it that much harder for me to think of an alternative, similarly themed film that we could use in its place. Does anyone on this list have suggestions? Thanks! -lisa H. Music Media Librarian Howard-Tilton Memorial Library Tulane University 504.314.7822 @lkHMusLibrarian www.facebook.com/TulaneMusicAndMediaCenter http://www.library.tulane.edu/libraries/mmc http://bamboulanola.tumblr.com/ VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- -- Mathew Levy Senior Director of Sales and Acquisitions Passion River Films 732-440-8100 x135 m...@passionriver.com Discover Unique Films at www.passionriver.com -- VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Alternative films to Tig ~ resilience Come Hell or High Water
Lisa, Take a look at Come Hell or High Water DVD from Bullfrog Films. Description and trailer here: http://www.bullfrogfilms.com/catalog/chow.html This intimate film tells a gigantic story - about race, about power, about so-called development. But it is also a saga of community, resilience, resistance, and hope. It's about everything that matters in our society. Bill Bigelow, Rethinking Schools Finalist, CINE Golden Eagle Kind regards, Elizabeth Stanley Bullfrog Films From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Hooper, Lisa K Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 3:47 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Alternative films to Tig Hi Mat, The overriding theme for this film series is resilience (we are, after all, marking Katrina10 in a big way down here). We already have several Katrina film options so we're now looking for other issues that can be associated with the concept of resilience; it could be illness, race, LGBT, gender, etc. The field is, actually, pretty wide open. The people making the final selection tend to like films that are recent productions, have a rapid pace (our students lose interest far too quickly), have a high production quality a la Hollywood (for the same reason), and are easily accessible. I think Tig stood out because it appeared to meet all four criteria. Thanks! -lisa From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Mathew Levy Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 1:38 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Alternative films to Tig Thanks Randy. FYI we also handle MITT, which is the Netflix Original Mitt Romney documentary following him and his family on their campaign trail in the last election. In terms of similar films to TIG, what elements were you looking for? Films about comedians, biographies, or cancer/medical stories? I am sure all of us distributors are happy to make recommendations based on those specific needs. Best, Mat On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Randy Pitman vid...@videolibrarian.commailto:vid...@videolibrarian.com wrote: Hi Jessica, Haven't seen anything on Virunga, but Passion River is selling the Netflix doc Print the Legend on the market competition between manufacturers of 3D printers. Best, Randy Randy Pitman Publisher/Editor Video Librarian 3435 NE Nine Boulder Dr. Poulsbo, WA 98370 Tel: (360) 626-1259tel:%28360%29%20626-1259 Fax (360) 626-1260tel:%28360%29%20626-1260 E-mail: vid...@videolibrarian.commailto:vid...@videolibrarian.com Web: www.videolibrarian.comhttp://www.videolibrarian.com From: Jessica Rosnermailto:maddux2...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 2:55 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edumailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Alternative films to Tig Sorry can't help think of an alternative but just know you are not alone. The Netflix model has been to only allow docs they buy to show in NY LA to make them Academy qualified and then refuse all other requests from theaters to colleges. A lot of venues really wanted to show the Nina Simone doc and others but were blown off. I am not even sure if Netflix ever releases their docs on DVD/blu ray Anyone know if you can legally buy a copy of VIRUNGA? Jessica On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Hooper, Lisa K lhoop...@tulane.edumailto:lhoop...@tulane.edu wrote: Greetings everyone, A group here on campus was very interested in hosting a screening of Tighttps://youtu.be/eO7kJ0j4Qzw. Unfortunately the distributor declined our request. I just watched the trailer and it's fantastic looking, but that is making it that much harder for me to think of an alternative, similarly themed film that we could use in its place. Does anyone on this list have suggestions? Thanks! -lisa H. Music Media Librarian Howard-Tilton Memorial Library Tulane University 504.314.7822tel:504.314.7822 @lkHMusLibrarian www.facebook.com/TulaneMusicAndMediaCenterhttp://www.facebook.com/TulaneMusicAndMediaCenter http://www.library.tulane.edu/libraries/mmc http://bamboulanola.tumblr.com/ VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
Re: [Videolib] Alternative films to Tig ~ resilience Come Hell or High Water
Elizabeth, on another topic altogether -- what is the Sven Husby movie again, about the calcium depletion and environmental damage? -- I have brain sieve. == Randal VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
