Re: [Videolib] No more DVDs?

[Dennis Doros]

Laura,

I apologize, but I find this is an extremely offensive comment. A lot of
distributors I know personally or by reputation are incredibly brave and
have set out in this side of the film business to educate and/or change the
world. They're almost as brave as some of the filmmakers they represent.
(Though we don't get shot at like some of them.) Many of us have faced hate
mail, death threats, bomb threats and a LOT of protests. I'm very proud
(okay, vain) that a strategy was named after me from when I was at Kino
distributing Last Temptation of Christ and we faced down an enormous amount
of pressure to drop the title.

I actually have not heard of films pulled because of controversy (though I
suspect some might have been pulled because of slander/libel and some like
Last Temptation not picked up by larger distributors), but there are, of
course, many books and films that have been pulled from libraries or (just
as bad) not purchased. It's wonderful that ALA has a promoted a list of the
most banned books each year

(with
a great photo of our friend who we'll be distributing sooner than later) to
face this issue, but that also means it still exists.

There are extraordinarily brave librarians to be celebrated and the cause
of preservation (except when we're talking 16mm) has been championed by
libraries and media centers. But I've seen some of the nasty "stuff" that
distributors have faced to champion films. They're pretty cool too.

Best regards,
Dennis Doros
Milestone Film & Video


On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Laura Jenemann  wrote:

> Relatedly, librarians value freedom of speech.  We will hold onto films
> that are controversial, and may even oppose our individual values in order
> to preserve freedom of speech.  Will a vendor/publisher pull a streaming
> title if it is related to a controversy because it is bad business?
>
>
>
> Laura Jenemann
>
> Media, Film Studies, and Dance Librarian
>
> George Mason University
>
> 703-993-7593
>
> ljene...@gmu.edu
>
>
>
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[Videolib] 30 for 30 season 2 vol. 2?

[Moshiri, Farhad]

ESPN has released the complete season 2 of 30 for 30 (films 31-60) on DVD. But 
they have already released vol. 1 of season 2 (films 31-45) before. Does anyone 
know when they will release season 2, vol. 2 (films 46-60)? Thanks.


Farhad Moshiri, MLS
Post-Masters Advanced Study Certificate
Audiovisual  Librarian
Subject areas: Music, Dance, Copyright issues,
Middle Eastern Studies
University of the Incarnate Word
J.E. & L.E. Mabee Library
4301 Broadway - CPO 297
San Antonio, TX 78209
(210) 829-3842



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[Videolib] Surveying users of your streaming video resources

[Beth E Traylor]

Hello  All,

I  am  wondering if anyone has ever surveyed the users of  your libraries' 
streaming video resources?
What kind of survey questions did you ask?
Did you send it out or is it an ongoing survey on your page of streaming 
resources?


Thank you in advance


Beth Traylor
Media and Reserve Librarian
UW-Milwaukee

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relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
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working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

[Videolib] Betamax is dead, long live VHS!

[Chris Lewis]

That is one long tail.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/nov/10/betamax-dead-long-live-vhs-sony-end-prodution


-- 
Chris Lewis  American University Library  202.885.3257
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relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] Betamax is dead, long live VHS!

[Jessica Rosner]

Wow I had no idea they were still making Betamax.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Chris Lewis  wrote:

> That is one long tail.
>
>
> http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/nov/10/betamax-dead-long-live-vhs-sony-end-prodution
>
>
> --
> Chris Lewis  American University Library  202.885.3257
>
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>
>
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] No more DVDs?

[Laura Jenemann]

Echoing Susan and Randal’s comments, and still catching up:

A library buys the film on VHS.
A library buys the film on DVD.
A library leases the film for 3 years.

Somethin’ ain’t right about this model.

Regards,
Laura

Laura Jenemann
Media, Film Studies, and Dance Librarian
George Mason University
703-993-7593
ljene...@gmu.edu

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Albrecht
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 12:51 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] No more DVDs?

I honestly would be very, very disappointed if DVDs were discontinued by 
Icarus!  I know that, as a small residential college, we are different than big 
universities and/or those with lots of distance ed and online courses.  Still, 
I also know that we are not unique and that there are many small schools out 
there purchasing film in physical format.  I definitely still attempt to build 
a collection, not just acquire access.

Randal alluded to the budget thing, and I’ll just say, “Yes!”  For me, it still 
makes most sense to use our limited dollars to purchase DVDs, rather than 
arrange for streaming.  Yes, docs can be pricey in DVD format, too, but having 
them available for years and years as opposed to 1-year or 3-year licenses 
matters.  And DVD is DEFINITELY preferred to short-term licensing of an 
individual title.  That screams “rental” to me, and that’s just not something 
our budget can support.  Sarah mentioned buying feature films in DVD format, 
and it’s true that the difference is more marked there, where the DVD only 
costs $25.  So “bang for your buck” is absolutely more apparent in the feature 
film realm, but it still holds on the doc and educational side for us, too.

Please don’t stop! ☺

Susan

Susan Albrecht
Graduate Fellowship Advisor
Library Media Acquisitions Manager
Wabash College Lilly Library
765-361-6216 (acquisitions) / 765-361-6297 (fellowships)
765-361-6295 fax
albre...@wabash.edu
Twitter:  @Wab_Fellowships
www.facebook.com/wabashcollegelibrary.films

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[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Lewis
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 12:08 PM
To: Videolib >
Subject: Re: [Videolib] No more DVDs?

For me, the only equivalent for a DVD purchase is a streaming video with 
in-perpetuity rights that we can host locally. We have many VHS tapes and DVDs 
from companies like Carousel, Films Inc., and LAVA that have gone out of 
business - but we can still use their titles because we own a tangible version. 
That wouldn't be the case if the only option was to license a streaming version 
hosted by the distributor.
I understand that this is the direction the studios are headed because the 
average person has adapted to using Netflix, iTunes. etc. but teaching needs 
are different and specialized documentaries (or features) that are perfect for 
a given class may be used regularly long after a distributor has gone out of 
business. It's just the way that classes get taught. Some professors figure out 
a lesson plan and more or less set it on autopilot for a couple decades.  So my 
hope was that independent educational distributors would be at the tail end of 
the DVD weaning process.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Jonathan Miller 
> wrote:
Dear Videolib friends

As many of you know Icarus Films has been helping to build, and currently has 
over 300 titles on, Docuseek2, to provide colleges and universities streaming 
access to our collection over the internet.

Yes, we continue to invest in producing and releasing DVDs of the same titles. 
And, as streaming usage increases, selling fewer and fewer of them.

It is making me wonder if we should stop selling DVDs altogether, not producing 
them at all for new films, and not ordering any more once we sell the last one 
of an older one.

What do you think would happen if we did that?

How many of you would definitely NOT buy or use a film that a professor or 
collection development librarian wanted to have, if it was ONLY available via 
streaming?

I’m serious in asking this question, I think it may be time to take a (perhaps) 
drastic step, and not another small incremental one.  What do you think?  
Thanks!

Curiously yours,

Jonathan Miller



Jonathan Miller
President
Icarus Films
32 Court Street, 21st Floor
Brooklyn, NY 11201

www.IcarusFilms.com
http://HomeVideo.IcarusFilms.com

Tel 1.718.488.8900
Fax 

[Videolib] Are you the Perpetual and/or PPR university wide point person?

[Laura Jenemann]

Dear Videolib,

Two questions, perhaps related, for the librarians/library staff on the list.  
Definitely reply off list if you feel that's the best way to address:


1)  Have you ever done an assessment of your entire college/university's 
entire annual purchases with a vendor?  For example, if your student cinema and 
film club purchases PPR one-off screenings from Vendor ABC, you or your 
colleagues purchase DVDs from Vendor ABC, and you or colleagues purchase 
streaming from Vendor ABC?

2)  How did you then use that information?  For example, as a negotiating 
tactic for perpetual rights?  Or for aggregating all of the licensing from 
Vendor ABC through one entity at your university?

If you have done this, or are the perpetual rights negotiator, I would love to 
hear from you.  And I mean that literally, too: please free to call me.

Regards,
Laura

Laura Jenemann
Media, Film Studies, and Dance Librarian
George Mason University
703-993-7593
ljene...@gmu.edu

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.