Re: [Videolib] Copyright and the First Super Bowl — from Plagiarism Today

[Jessica Rosner]

Not remotely a fan of NFL and how it operates but this guy is an idiot who
reminds of Al Dettlof a deranged film collector who had the only surviving
copy of the 1910 Edison Frankenstein. There was no copyright issue but
Detloff also thought it was worth a million dollars and when no one would
give it to him, he would carry it chained to his wrist ( yes really) . When
he died his body was not found for weeks as he had no friends or relatives
and the film became available.
I would think $30,000 is pretty good money for something you can't sell or
exploit because you don't own it and no way is it worth anywhere near a
million bucks ( a figure apparently made up by Sports Illustrated). I would
take the the thirty grand and maybe get them to throw in tickets to a super
bowl

As noted NFL has a lot of material from the game and thinks the entire game
untouched would actually be largely boring. I think this is just a case of
greed and stupidity by Mr. Harwood.


On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Jenni Olson  wrote:

> Not sure if anyone else has posted this, apologies if it has already been
> shared. Seemed like an item of interest. And who knew there was a
> publication called Plagiarism Today!?
>
>
>
>
> https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2016/01/13/copyright-and-the-first-super-bowl/
>
> On Friday, January 15, 2015, the NFL Network will do something that many
> previously thought was impossible: Rebroadcast the first Super Bowl
> 
> .
>
> The legend of the first Super Bowl has been known for some time. It was
> (and in many ways still is) lost to history. All known copies of the game
> were either destroyed or had deteriorated
>  before
> they could be preserved. Clips and parts of the game survived, but the full
> game seemed to be lost to the sands of time.
>
> However, in 2005, a nearly complete video of the game surfaced
> .
> A Virginia man whose father had recorded the tapes on a stable format not
> only had the game on tape, but had it well-preserved.
>
> But when he tried to take the tape public, he ran into a myriad of
> problems between copyright law and an uncooperative NFL that kept the tape
> in the dark.
>
> Instead, the NFL has opted to piece together the game from available clips
> and it claims to have found all 145 play and are piecing it together to
> create a complete game. Combined with new commentary and packaging, what
> the NFL Network will air on Friday may be Super Bowl 1, but it won’t be the
> game as those in 1967 experienced it.
>
> To understand this, we have to look at just how this game was lost, then
> found and then lost again.
> The History of Super Bowl 1
>
> [image: NFL AFL Score]On January 15, 1967, in Los Angeles Memorial
> Coliseum, the National Football League’s (NFL) Green Bay Packers and the
> American Football League’s (AFL) Kansas City Chiefs squared off to settle
> a rivalry between the two leagues
>  and play in
> then known as the First AFL-NFL World Championship Game, a title that would
> be retroactively changed to Super Bowl 1.
>
> It was a largely uneventful game with Green Bay making short work of
> Kansas City, winning the game 35-10 in front of a stadium littered with
> empty seats. Instead of big names like The Who, Slash, The Black Eyed Peas
> or Madonna, the Grambling Marching Band teamed up with the University of
> Arizona Symphonic Marching Band to put on the halftime show.
>
> One thing the game did get was plenty of TV coverage
> .
> Since the NFL and AFL were separate leagues (they had begun to merge but
> wouldn’t become two conferences in the same league until 1970), the two
> leagues had separate TV contracts. CBS Held the NFL broadcast rights and
> NBC held the AFL rights. Due to that, both stations simulcast the game,
> shooting it out to a combined 51 million viewers.
>
> However, all of that coverage did not save it from being lost. Tapes of
> both the NBC and CBS broadcast were lost over the years. By the 2000s, the
> lack of a complete tape of the game had become widely known and, in 2005, 
> Sport
> Illustrated listed it as one of the “lost treasures” of sports
> .
>
> It was at that point that a man named Steve Harwood came forward, claiming
> to have a nearly-complete copy of the game.
> The Last (Known) Surviving Tape
>
> Following the Sports Illustrated article, a Virginia man named Steve
> Harwood came forward and claimed that he had a copy of the game, namely of
> the CBS broadcast.
>
> According 

Re: [Videolib] Blu-ray Collection Development Policies

[Tatar, Becky]

We don't really have a policy per se.  We don't have a specific Blu-Ray 
collection, but we do purchase the combo packs - Disney, Criterion, when 
released.  Or, if a film receives great reviews, but is only released on 
Blu-Ray, we'll also get that.  For a while, one of our branch selectors was 
getting Blu-Ray of top releases, but she wasn't aware that we really didn't 
collect them.  Part of the whole issue comes down to budget.  We just don't 
have it.  I hope this helps.

Becky Tatar
Periodicals/Audiovisuals
Aurora Public Library
101 S. River Street
Aurora, IL   60506
Phone: 630-264-4116
FAX: 630-896-3209
blt...@aurorapubliclibrary.org
www.aurorapubliclibrary.org

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Laura Jenemann
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 4:42 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] Blu-ray Collection Development Policies

Dear videolib,

I'm researching blu-ray collection development policies.  If you have any links 
or info to share, please reach out.

And thanks for your help.

Regards,

Laura
Laura Jenemann
Media Services/Film Studies Librarian
George Mason University Libraries
Email: ljene...@gmu.edu
Phone: 703-993-7593
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] Blu-ray Collection Development Policies

[Laura Jenemann]

Thanks for the responses on this! They're very helpful.

And if any one has formal language in a policy they can point to, please share.

Regards,
Laura


From: Jodie Borgerding 
>
Reply-To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" 
>
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 9:31 AM
To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" 
>
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Blu-ray Collection Development Policies

My situation is similar to Becky's. We don't have a policy specifically for 
Blu-Rays, but will get the combo packs (catalog them separately), only Blu-Ray 
releases, or if the faculty specifically request a Blu-Ray version. We did this 
for the Lord of the Rings trilogy last year which a film studies professor 
requested it.

Budget is the main factor. I would love to buy a DVD and Blu-Ray copy for every 
film I buy, but I can't afford to do so. I do look at the annual circulation 
counts for the films, and our Blu-Ray films do have a high number of circs so I 
have some evidence if I ever decide to request funds to build up our Blu-Ray 
collection.

Jodie



Jodie Borgerding, MLS
Instruction and Liaison Librarian
Missouri Library Association President
Webster University Library
470 E. Lockwood
St. Louis, MO  63119
(314) 246-7819
jborgerdin...@webster.edu
http://library.webster.edu
http://molib.org

From: 
videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Tatar, Becky
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 8:01 AM
To: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' 
>
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Blu-ray Collection Development Policies

We don't really have a policy per se.  We don't have a specific Blu-Ray 
collection, but we do purchase the combo packs - Disney, Criterion, when 
released.  Or, if a film receives great reviews, but is only released on 
Blu-Ray, we'll also get that.  For a while, one of our branch selectors was 
getting Blu-Ray of top releases, but she wasn't aware that we really didn't 
collect them.  Part of the whole issue comes down to budget.  We just don't 
have it.  I hope this helps.

Becky Tatar
Periodicals/Audiovisuals
Aurora Public Library
101 S. River Street
Aurora, IL   60506
Phone: 630-264-4116
FAX: 630-896-3209
blt...@aurorapubliclibrary.org
www.aurorapubliclibrary.org

From:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
 [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Laura Jenemann
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 4:42 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] Blu-ray Collection Development Policies

Dear videolib,

I'm researching blu-ray collection development policies.  If you have any links 
or info to share, please reach out.

And thanks for your help.

Regards,

Laura
Laura Jenemann
Media Services/Film Studies Librarian
George Mason University Libraries
Email: ljene...@gmu.edu
Phone: 703-993-7593
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

[Videolib] websites with movie scripts

[Sarah E. McCleskey]

Hi all,

I have a professor who wants to make PDFs from websites with movie scripts. An 
example is Kramer vs. Kramer at 
http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Kramer-vs-Kramer.html. She also has a PDF of 
Scarface that she got somewhere, I think from this website 
http://www.dailyscript.com/index.html. She was telling me that Daily Script 
must be legit because the web page for the New York Film Academy 
(https://www.nyfa.edu/student-resources/10-great-websites-download-movie-scripts/)
 links to it...

Am I being overly cautious? I am not going to post a PDF ripped from a sketchy 
site ... but I am even hesitant to link to these sites. Advice??

Sarah

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] websites with movie scripts

[Andrew Horbal]

Hi Sarah,

The "Disclaimer" page on the IMSDB website 
contains the text of 17 USC 107 (the fair use exemption) along with a note that 
says "[a]ll scripts on this site are educational purposes only," which I assume 
is the site's argument for how their use of copyrighted material qualifies as a 
fair use. Dailyscript.com's main page says simply "[t]hese are for Educational 
Purposes only." It seems probable to me that the authors of both sites are 
operating under the misapprehension that any "educational" use of copyrighted 
material is a fair use. Even if this was true, neither site has made a good 
argument for how their use qualifies as educational.

The NYFA link in question is from a blog authored by someone named Jack Picone. 
According to his LinkedIn page, he is 
an "award-winning writer" and stand-up comedian who also appears to sidelight 
as the NYFA's Director of Affairs. I would not feel comfortable assuming that 
the fact the he links to these script websites means that he has vetted their 
compliance with copyright law.

If I was in your shoes, I probably would not link to these websites on a 
library resource without first obtaining more information about whether or not 
the use of whatever individual script I was interested in was authorized. But, 
as they say, YMMV!

Andy Horbal
Head of Learning Commons
1101 McKeldin Library
7649 Library Ln.
University of Maryland
College Park, MD 20742
(301) 405-9227
ahor...@umd.edu


From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Sarah E. McCleskey
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 1:14 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] websites with movie scripts

Hi all,

I have a professor who wants to make PDFs from websites with movie scripts. An 
example is Kramer vs. Kramer at 
http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Kramer-vs-Kramer.html. She also has a PDF of 
Scarface that she got somewhere, I think from this website 
http://www.dailyscript.com/index.html. She was telling me that Daily Script 
must be legit because the web page for the New York Film Academy 
(https://www.nyfa.edu/student-resources/10-great-websites-download-movie-scripts/)
 links to it...

Am I being overly cautious? I am not going to post a PDF ripped from a sketchy 
site ... but I am even hesitant to link to these sites. Advice??

Sarah

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] websites with movie scripts

[Mandel, Debra]

Hi-

I have all these links on my media and screen studies lib guide-I took them off 
of other guides and researched, and they seem legit!   So far I haven't gotten 
any negative feedback on these sites.

Debra



  *
Daily Script
Includes movie and tv scripts and screenplays in proper screenwriting format.
  *
Drew's Script-O-Rama
Includes 1+ free movie scripts, transcripts, screenplays, teleplays and 
more since 1995.
  *
Internet Movie Script Database (IMSDb)
Includes HTML-formatted scripts indexed by film and tv genres. downloadable and 
free, with links to script vendors.
  *
The Script Source
Includes free movie and tv scripts and script writing tips.
  *
Simply Scripts
A database of hundreds of downloadable scripts, movie scripts, screenplays, and 
transcripts of current, classic and maybe a few soon-to-be-released movies, 
television, anime, unproduced and radio shows.
  *
Springfield! 
Springfield!
Dedicated to The Simpsons and host to thousands of free TV show episode scripts 
and screencaps, cartoon framegrabs and movie scripts.
  *
TV Writing
Includes US and UK drama, US comedy and animation and pilot scripts.

From: 
>
 on behalf of "Sarah E. McCleskey" 
>
Reply-To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" 
>
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 1:14 PM
To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" 
>
Subject: [Videolib] websites with movie scripts

Hi all,

I have a professor who wants to make PDFs from websites with movie scripts. An 
example is Kramer vs. Kramer at 
http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Kramer-vs-Kramer.html. She also has a PDF of 
Scarface that she got somewhere, I think from this website 
http://www.dailyscript.com/index.html. She was telling me that Daily Script 
must be legit because the web page for the New York Film Academy 
(https://www.nyfa.edu/student-resources/10-great-websites-download-movie-scripts/)
 links to it...

Am I being overly cautious? I am not going to post a PDF ripped from a sketchy 
site ... but I am even hesitant to link to these sites. Advice??

Sarah

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

[Videolib] Copyright and the First Super Bowl — from Plagiarism Today

[Jenni Olson]

Not sure if anyone else has posted this, apologies if it has already been 
shared. Seemed like an item of interest. And who knew there was a publication 
called Plagiarism Today!?



https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2016/01/13/copyright-and-the-first-super-bowl/

On Friday, January 15, 2015, the NFL Network will do something that many 
previously thought was impossible: Rebroadcast the first Super Bowl 
.

The legend of the first Super Bowl has been known for some time. It was (and in 
many ways still is) lost to history. All known copies of the game were either 
destroyed or had deteriorated 
 before they 
could be preserved. Clips and parts of the game survived, but the full game 
seemed to be lost to the sands of time.

However, in 2005, a nearly complete video of the game surfaced 
. A 
Virginia man whose father had recorded the tapes on a stable format not only 
had the game on tape, but had it well-preserved.

But when he tried to take the tape public, he ran into a myriad of problems 
between copyright law and an uncooperative NFL that kept the tape in the dark.

Instead, the NFL has opted to piece together the game from available clips and 
it claims to have found all 145 play and are piecing it together to create a 
complete game. Combined with new commentary and packaging, what the NFL Network 
will air on Friday may be Super Bowl 1, but it won’t be the game as those in 
1967 experienced it.

To understand this, we have to look at just how this game was lost, then found 
and then lost again.

The History of Super Bowl 1

On January 15, 1967, in Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, the National Football 
League’s (NFL) Green Bay Packers and the American Football League’s (AFL) 
Kansas City Chiefs squared off to settle a rivalry between the two leagues 
 and play in then 
known as the First AFL-NFL World Championship Game, a title that would be 
retroactively changed to Super Bowl 1.

It was a largely uneventful game with Green Bay making short work of Kansas 
City, winning the game 35-10 in front of a stadium littered with empty seats. 
Instead of big names like The Who, Slash, The Black Eyed Peas or Madonna, the 
Grambling Marching Band teamed up with the University of Arizona Symphonic 
Marching Band to put on the halftime show.

One thing the game did get was plenty of TV coverage 
.
 Since the NFL and AFL were separate leagues (they had begun to merge but 
wouldn’t become two conferences in the same league until 1970), the two leagues 
had separate TV contracts. CBS Held the NFL broadcast rights and NBC held the 
AFL rights. Due to that, both stations simulcast the game, shooting it out to a 
combined 51 million viewers.

However, all of that coverage did not save it from being lost. Tapes of both 
the NBC and CBS broadcast were lost over the years. By the 2000s, the lack of a 
complete tape of the game had become widely known and, in 2005, Sport 
Illustrated listed it as one of the “lost treasures” of sports 
.

It was at that point that a man named Steve Harwood came forward, claiming to 
have a nearly-complete copy of the game.

The Last (Known) Surviving Tape

Following the Sports Illustrated article, a Virginia man named Steve Harwood 
came forward and claimed that he had a copy of the game, namely of the CBS 
broadcast.

According to Harwood, his father had recorded the game using a videotape 
machine at his work. Harwood claims he did so in hopes that the tape would 
become valuable and, with it being the last surviving copy, Harwood’s father 
seemed to have been right.

Upon learning how sought after it was, Harwood immediately took the tape to the 
Paley Center for Media  in New York for 
preservation and restoration. There, they restored the tape, bringing it back 
to its former glory and

The tape, to be clear, isn’t 100% complete. It doesn’t include the halftime 
show and portions of the third quarter are missing. However, of a game where 
only clips and short portions had been known to survive, it was an amazing 
discovery and a piece of sports history.

However, it was to be a piece of sports history that no one would be able to 
enjoy, at least not yet.

Copyright and the NFL

After realizing the value in the tape, Harwood immediately sought to sell it 
and approached the NFL. However, the NFL was less than interested in the 
broadcast.

According to his lawyer, Harwood claimed the tapes were valued at more than $1 
million 

Re: [Videolib] Copyright and the First Super Bowl — from Plagiarism Today

[Dennis Doros]

Well, having watched it as an 8-year-old (I still have the program from the
game -- the NFL sent it to me for free when I wrote to ask for one!) and
seeing games from that era today, I do know what they mean when they say
it's not presentable for modern day audiences. We have been so accustomed
to all the information given to us at all times on the screen (the score,
down, yards-to-go, time left in the game) and the numerous statistics (men
and their numbers may be a stereotype but it's true) that also goes along
with fantasy football that fans interact with as the game goes on, that
early broadcasts give you a sense of uneasiness. The screen is *too* quiet
and you have to "really" follow the game and the announcers as it
progresses.

The other thing I liked is that the owner did have the video preserved and
it was done at a reputable lab. And I'm not that much of a sports fan, by
the way, but it's a great way to pass the time when you're going through
emails. (Go Kerber!)

Best regards,
Dennis Doros
Milestone Film & Video
PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640
Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.com


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On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Jenni Olson  wrote:

> Not sure if anyone else has posted this, apologies if it has already been
> shared. Seemed like an item of interest. And who knew there was a
> publication called Plagiarism Today!?
>
>
>
>
> https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2016/01/13/copyright-and-the-first-super-bowl/
>
> On Friday, January 15, 2015, the NFL Network will do something that many
> previously thought was impossible: Rebroadcast the first Super Bowl
> 
> .
>
> The legend of the first Super Bowl has been known for some time. It was
> (and in many ways still is) lost to history. All known copies of the game
> were either destroyed or had deteriorated
>  before
> they could be preserved. Clips and parts of the game survived, but the full
> game seemed to be lost to the sands of time.
>
> However, in 2005, a nearly complete video of the game surfaced
> .
> A Virginia man whose father had recorded the tapes on a stable format not
> only had the game on tape, but had it well-preserved.
>
> But when he tried to take the tape public, he ran into a myriad of
> problems between copyright law and an uncooperative NFL that kept the tape
> in the dark.
>
> Instead, the NFL has opted to piece together the game from available clips
> and it claims to have found all 145 play and are piecing it together to
> create a complete game. Combined with new commentary and packaging, what
> the NFL Network will air on Friday may be Super Bowl 1, but it won’t be the
> game as those in 1967 experienced it.
>
> To understand this, we have to look at just how this game was lost, then
> found and then lost again.
> The History of Super Bowl 1
>
> [image: NFL AFL Score]On January 15, 1967, in Los Angeles Memorial
> Coliseum, the National Football League’s (NFL) Green Bay Packers and the
> American Football League’s (AFL) Kansas City Chiefs squared off to settle
> a rivalry between the two leagues
>  and play in
> then known as the First AFL-NFL World Championship Game, a title that would
> be retroactively changed to Super Bowl 1.
>
> It was a largely uneventful game with Green Bay making short work of
> Kansas City, winning the game 35-10 in front of a stadium littered with
> empty seats. Instead of big names like The Who, Slash, The Black Eyed Peas
> or Madonna, the Grambling Marching Band teamed up with the University of
> Arizona Symphonic Marching Band to put on the halftime show.
>
> One thing the game did get was plenty of TV coverage
> .
> Since the NFL and AFL were separate leagues (they had begun to merge but
> wouldn’t become two conferences in the same league until 1970), the two
> leagues had separate TV contracts. CBS Held the NFL broadcast rights and
> NBC held the AFL rights. Due to that, both stations simulcast the game,
> shooting it out to a combined 51 million viewers.
>
> However, all of that coverage did not save it from being lost. Tapes of
> both the NBC and CBS broadcast were lost over the years. By the 2000s, the
> lack of a complete tape of the game had become widely known and, in 2005, 
> Sport
> Illustrated listed it as one of