Re: [Videolib] Difficulties in obtaining streaming rights

[Dave Dvorchak]

Please send all of these filmmakers my way and I will happily oblige with
16mm and a big screen! I have more and more people pushing DVDs or some
other digital screening method on me when I inquire about showing a print.
Ble.

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Dennis Doros  wrote:

> And if a filmmaker thinks that his or her films should be shown on 16mm or
> 35mm on a big screen rather than at 720 x 486 on a computer screen or
> Iphone, then their wishes should be followed and they themselves should be
> agreeable to accept the loss of revenue.
>



-- 
David Dvorchak
Office Manager
Providence Community Library
ddvorc...@provcomlib.org
(401) 467-2700 x2
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] Difficulties in obtaining streaming rights

[Dennis Doros]

Well, of course, I don't think any film is irreplaceable (except Powell and
Pressburger's I KNOW WHERE I'M GOING), but most people with films want to
be found and their films rented. And I don't think you want to give up the
Les Blanks and Frederick Wiseman's of the world who don't believe in giving
up control of their films, right or wrong. The world world would be far
less interesting. And if a filmmaker thinks that his or her films should be
shown on 16mm or 35mm on a big screen rather than at 720 x 486 on a
computer screen or Iphone, then their wishes should be followed and they
themselves should be agreeable to accept the loss of revenue. Films should
be treated like a art rather than a Big Mac. (There are obviously
less-than-artful films and some great hamburgers, but on the whole, I do
believe this.)

But what I do want to say is that this is a new world out there with
streaming. It may seem like this is going to be fought until the last
librarian and last distributor in existence in a post-celluloid
nitrate-imploded world kill each other off with blows to the head using
16mm Goldberg cases, but even the smallest distributors (and I can't
imagine any distributor smaller than us) and filmmakers are dealing with
this change to the digital world. I would encourage working and talking to
them to find accommodation rather than blatantly ripping files and putting
them up without permission. Not only do I truly believe it's illegal (and I
do have a pretty-fair and objective knowledge of fair use and educational
copyright laws) but it's going to be very detrimental for your kind of
films to be made in the future. We spent a lovely day with another (and far
larger) distributor over the weekend and against the backdrop of a
beautiful botanical garden in the Bronx (and there are two of them). we all
agree that the financial rewards of distribution -- which were always
minimal -- are getting slighter and slighter.

-- 
Best regards,
Dennis Doros
Milestone Film & Video/Milliarium Zero
PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640
Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.com
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Re: [Videolib] Difficulties in obtaining streaming rights

[Jessica Rosner]

Trust me I know it is very frustrating, but the fact that you are unable to
get a response or the even more likely scenario that the response is no ( I
am thinking here more of feature films) than you have ask the instructor to
either find another title you can license or presuming the title was
released actually scheduling a screening in a class (The HORROR). As the
aborted fiasco involving google books ( in particular  the project with
Univ. of Michigan) showed just because you can't find the author of a book
does not mean they are not out there or that it is OK to stream it even if
you can't find them. Is it the practice of a library to make copies of out
of print books for every student who needs one or to digitize and put
online for classes any novel, textbook etc that is out o print?

Obviously I have no idea what kind of film(s) you are referring to, as far
as feature films go, I would say  99% of them can be tracked down ,but you
may need to spend a chunk of change to hire an expert to do it. I am
curious how you (or others) would handle the situation where you do reach
the filmmaker/rights holder and they say no. Is it OK then to just stream
their film?

Instructors have to accept that not every film ever made will be available
for use in their class.

I assure it is believe it or not even more difficult on the distributor
end. You can not imagine what goes into acquiring and maintaining rights to
films. Personally I would love for certain filmmakers & rights  holders to
get their "comeuppance" and have their works illegally streamed because
they are too greedy or stupid to license them, but the collateral damage is
pretty much the end of indie film distribution and production ( in which I
include the vast majority of foreign feature films at least for
distribution in the US)


On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Helen P. Mack  wrote:

>  I swear, this whole streaming thing is enough to make me want to retire
> early!
>
> If we are interested in streaming an entire film, what are we supposed to
> do when the source (filmmaker, production co., whatever) has only an online
> presence and is so small that their website indicates no phone # or real
> email address?  I can message them through their website, but if there is
> no response, then what?  Stop and do nothing, even though we have a summer
> session course beginning in a couple of days?  I don't think so.
>
> We want to do things the right way, the legal way, but if there is no one
> to deal with, then all I can do is print out my queries as evidence that I
> have covered my a-- and then we proceed on our own.  And if someone out
> there in the world comes forward and is upset, then I say, "Fine, PLEASE
> let us give you some money."  What alternative is there?
>
> Maybe these little companies should turn over the business side of their
> operation to some larger entity (e.g. Action! Library Media Service,
> Midwest Tape, or someone of that ilk) who can operate efficiently.
> Comments?
>
> On 5/16/2012 12:30 PM, Dennis Doros wrote:
>
> Roger,
>
>  I would still say based on Judith's assessment and looking over a little
> of the decision and the opinions, that Jessica is correct in saying that if
> 100% of a copyrighted material is put up on a University streaming site
> where the rights are readily available, then there is no part of this
> decision that would say it's permissible. And I do believe Jessica is right
> that there are many institutions that are allowing this to happen.
>
>  I would like to remind one and all that we are ALL colleagues in the
> educational field and any direct or indirect insults from anybody on this
> listserv is uncalled for. With Gary heading off to sunsets on the beach
> drinking single-malt scotch after rum toddy chasers (Gary, I'm sure you're
> going to correct me on this!), we should be even more civil.
>
>  And as we are an audiovisual crowd, I like to link my suggestions to
> videos. Here's today's suggested 
> view.
> And please note, this clip is less than 10% of the feature film. ;-)
>
>  Best regards,
> Dennis Doros
> Milestone Film & Video/Milliarium Zero
> PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640
> Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.com
> Visit our main website!  www.milestonefilms.com
> Visit our other websites!  www.comebackafrica.com  www.yougottomove.com
> www.ontheboweryfilm.com  www.arayafilm.com  www.exilesfilm.com
> www.wordisoutmovie.com  www.killerofsheep.com
>
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>
> On Wed, May 16,

Re: [Videolib] Difficulties in obtaining streaming rights

[Evershed, Julie]

I have had some luck in locating the filmmaker on Facebook, and then getting 
the appropriate rights/distributor contact information from that contact. I did 
not have to request that they add me as a friend, I could message them directly 
(but I think that might be a privacy setting, so your mileage may vary).

Julie

~~~
Julie Evershed, Director
Language Resource Center
University of Michigan
North Quad
105 South State Street, #1195
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1285
phone: (734)764-0424
www.umich.edu/~langres/<http://www.umich.edu/~langres/>

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Helen P. Mack
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 3:44 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Difficulties in obtaining streaming rights

I swear, this whole streaming thing is enough to make me want to retire early!

If we are interested in streaming an entire film, what are we supposed to do 
when the source (filmmaker, production co., whatever) has only an online 
presence and is so small that their website indicates no phone # or real email 
address?  I can message them through their website, but if there is no 
response, then what?  Stop and do nothing, even though we have a summer session 
course beginning in a couple of days?  I don't think so.

We want to do things the right way, the legal way, but if there is no one to 
deal with, then all I can do is print out my queries as evidence that I have 
covered my a-- and then we proceed on our own.  And if someone out there in the 
world comes forward and is upset, then I say, "Fine, PLEASE let us give you 
some money."  What alternative is there?

Maybe these little companies should turn over the business side of their 
operation to some larger entity (e.g. Action! Library Media Service, Midwest 
Tape, or someone of that ilk) who can operate efficiently.  Comments?

On 5/16/2012 12:30 PM, Dennis Doros wrote:
Roger,

I would still say based on Judith's assessment and looking over a little of the 
decision and the opinions, that Jessica is correct in saying that if 100% of a 
copyrighted material is put up on a University streaming site where the rights 
are readily available, then there is no part of this decision that would say 
it's permissible. And I do believe Jessica is right that there are many 
institutions that are allowing this to happen.

I would like to remind one and all that we are ALL colleagues in the 
educational field and any direct or indirect insults from anybody on this 
listserv is uncalled for. With Gary heading off to sunsets on the beach 
drinking single-malt scotch after rum toddy chasers (Gary, I'm sure you're 
going to correct me on this!), we should be even more civil.

And as we are an audiovisual crowd, I like to link my suggestions to videos. 
Here's today's suggested view<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKGjOE_7bYI>. And 
please note, this clip is less than 10% of the feature film. ;-)

Best regards,
Dennis Doros
Milestone Film & Video/Milliarium Zero
PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640
Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: 
milefi...@gmail.com<mailto:milefi...@gmail.com>
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www.exilesfilm.com<http://www.exilesfilm.com/>  
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On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Brown, Roger 
mailto:rbr...@oid.ucla.edu>> wrote:
Thank you Judith. It looks like you read the entire decision (at least, wait 
for it... the good parts) and understand the specifics and the exceptions of 
this particular decision.

Each case is only more case law, not (so far) a definitive decision on fair 
use.  Well-reasoned analyses with a minimum of typographic errors are always 
welcome.


- -

Roger Brown
Manager
UCLA Instructional Media Collections & Services
46 Powell Library
Los Angeles, CA  90095-1517
office: 310-206-1248
fax: 310-206-5392
rbr...@oid.ucla.edu<mailto:rbr...@oid.ucla.edu>


From: "Shoaf,Judith P" mailto:jsh...@ufl.edu>>
Re

Re: [Videolib] Difficulties in obtaining streaming rights

[ghandman]

Well...at present there are two alternatives, and really two only

1.  Throw up your hands and find another film...assuming that streaming
without permission or license does not stand up to fair use tests or your
institution's tolerance for risk...

or

2.  Cast your lots with the risk-tolerant and UCLA and go to the liberal
interpretation battlements by streaming first and asking questions later.

Gary Handman

Blanton Reserve (that's bourbon, son) with two cubes maximum, Dennis. 
Although I have never in my life turned down a glass of single-malt.




> I swear, this whole streaming thing is enough to make me want to retire
> early!
>
> If we are interested in streaming an entire film, what are we supposed
> to do when the source (filmmaker, production co., whatever) has only an
> online presence and is so small that their website indicates no phone #
> or real email address?  I can message them through their website, but if
> there is no response, then what?  Stop and do nothing, even though we
> have a summer session course beginning in a couple of days?  I don't
> think so.
>
> We want to do things the right way, the legal way, but if there is no
> one to deal with, then all I can do is print out my queries as evidence
> that I have covered my a-- and then we proceed on our own.  And if
> someone out there in the world comes forward and is upset, then I say,
> "Fine, PLEASE let us give you some money."  What alternative is there?
>
> Maybe these little companies should turn over the business side of their
> operation to some larger entity (e.g. Action! Library Media Service,
> Midwest Tape, or someone of that ilk) who can operate efficiently.
> Comments?
>
> On 5/16/2012 12:30 PM, Dennis Doros wrote:
>> Roger,
>>
>> I would still say based on Judith's assessment and looking over a
>> little of the decision and the opinions, that Jessica is correct in
>> saying that if 100% of a copyrighted material is put up on a
>> University streaming site where the rights are readily available, then
>> there is no part of this decision that would say it's permissible. And
>> I do believe Jessica is right that there are many institutions that
>> are allowing this to happen.
>>
>> I would like to remind one and all that we are ALL colleagues in the
>> educational field and any direct or indirect insults from anybody on
>> this listserv is uncalled for. With Gary heading off to sunsets on the
>> beach drinking single-malt scotch after rum toddy chasers (Gary, I'm
>> sure you're going to correct me on this!), we should be even more civil.
>>
>> And as we are an audiovisual crowd, I like to link my suggestions to
>> videos. Here's today's suggested view
>> . And please note, this
>> clip is less than 10% of the feature film. ;-)
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Dennis Doros
>> Milestone Film & Video/Milliarium Zero
>> PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640
>> Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.com
>> 
>> Visit our main website! www.milestonefilms.com
>> 
>> Visit our other websites! www.comebackafrica.com
>>  www.yougottomove.com
>>  www.ontheboweryfilm.com
>>  www.arayafilm.com
>>  www.exilesfilm.com
>>  www.wordisoutmovie.com
>>  www.killerofsheep.com
>> 
>>
>> Support "Milestone Film" on Facebook
>>  and Twitter
>> !
>> See the website: Association of Moving Image Archivists
>>  and like them on Facebook
>> 
>>
>> AMIA 2012 Conference, Seattle, WA, December 4-7!
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Brown, Roger > > wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Judith. It looks like you read the entire decision (at
>> least, wait for it... the good parts) and understand the specifics
>> and the exceptions of this particular decision.
>>
>> Each case is only more case law, not (so far) a definitive
>> decision on fair use.  Well-reasoned analyses with a minimum of
>> typographic errors are always welcome.
>>
>>
>> - -
>>
>> Roger Brown
>> Manager
>> UCLA Instructional Media Collections & Services
>> 46 Powell Library
>> Los Angeles, CA  90095-1517
>> office: 310-206-1248 
>> fax: 310-206-5392 
>> rbr...@oid.ucla.edu 
>>
>>
>> From: "Shoaf,Judith P" mailto:jsh...@ufl.edu>>
>> Reply-To: > >
>> Date: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:42 PM
>> To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
>> 

Re: [Videolib] Difficulties in obtaining streaming rights

[Camille Walker]

If you want to know more about streaming rights, attend the one-day session
for only $200, Thursday, June 7th at the CIP Biennial Symposium in
Baltimore, MD and hear keynote speaker Peggy Hoon discuss  "The Elephant In
The Room:  Copyright and Digitization Projects."   Plus you can attend a
full-day of session and panel discussions.
Registe<http://cipcommunity.org/s/1039/index.aspx?sid=1039&gid=1&pgid=675>r
today.



Camille Walker





*From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Helen P. Mack
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 16, 2012 3:44 PM
*To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
*Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Difficulties in obtaining streaming rights



I swear, this whole streaming thing is enough to make me want to retire
early!

If we are interested in streaming an entire film, what are we supposed to
do when the source (filmmaker, production co., whatever) has only an online
presence and is so small that their website indicates no phone # or real
email address?  I can message them through their website, but if there is
no response, then what?  Stop and do nothing, even though we have a summer
session course beginning in a couple of days?  I don't think so.

We want to do things the right way, the legal way, but if there is no one
to deal with, then all I can do is print out my queries as evidence that I
have covered my a-- and then we proceed on our own.  And if someone out
there in the world comes forward and is upset, then I say, "Fine, PLEASE
let us give you some money."  What alternative is there?

Maybe these little companies should turn over the business side of their
operation to some larger entity (e.g. Action! Library Media Service,
Midwest Tape, or someone of that ilk) who can operate efficiently.
Comments?

On 5/16/2012 12:30 PM, Dennis Doros wrote:

Roger,



I would still say based on Judith's assessment and looking over a little of
the decision and the opinions, that Jessica is correct in saying that if
100% of a copyrighted material is put up on a University streaming site
where the rights are readily available, then there is no part of this
decision that would say it's permissible. And I do believe Jessica is right
that there are many institutions that are allowing this to happen.



I would like to remind one and all that we are ALL colleagues in the
educational field and any direct or indirect insults from anybody on this
listserv is uncalled for. With Gary heading off to sunsets on the beach
drinking single-malt scotch after rum toddy chasers (Gary, I'm sure you're
going to correct me on this!), we should be even more civil.



And as we are an audiovisual crowd, I like to link my suggestions to
videos. Here's today's suggested
view<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKGjOE_7bYI>.
And please note, this clip is less than 10% of the feature film. ;-)



Best regards,
Dennis Doros
Milestone Film & Video/Milliarium Zero
PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640
Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.com
Visit our main website!  www.milestonefilms.com

Visit our other websites!  www.comebackafrica.com  www.yougottomove.com
www.ontheboweryfilm.com  www.arayafilm.com  www.exilesfilm.com
www.wordisoutmovie.com  www.killerofsheep.com


Support "Milestone Film" on
Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/pages/Milestone-Film/22348485426>
 and Twitter <https://twitter.com/#%21/MilestoneFilms>!

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like them on 
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On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Brown, Roger  wrote:

Thank you Judith. It looks like you read the entire decision (at least,
wait for it... the good parts) and understand the specifics and the
exceptions of this particular decision.



Each case is only more case law, not (so far) a definitive decision on fair
use.  Well-reasoned analyses with a minimum of typographic errors are
always welcome.





- -



Roger Brown

Manager

UCLA Instructional Media Collections & Services

46 Powell Library

Los Angeles, CA  90095-1517

office: 310-206-1248

fax: 310-206-5392

rbr...@oid.ucla.edu





*From: *"Shoaf,Judith P" 
*Reply-To: *
*Date: *Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:42 PM
*To: *"videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" 
*Subject: *Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use



I once took that personality test online and it said I am most like Lucy in
Peanuts. My husband, who is most like Schroeder, doesn’t let me forget it.
Nickels welcome.



Judge Evans talks about the Kinko’s and Michigan Documents cases, and
disagrees about the “good parts” argument. In only one of the cases she
considers does she say that the excerpt constituted “the heart of 

Re: [Videolib] Difficulties in obtaining streaming rights

[Helen P. Mack]

I swear, this whole streaming thing is enough to make me want to retire 
early!


If we are interested in streaming an entire film, what are we supposed 
to do when the source (filmmaker, production co., whatever) has only an 
online presence and is so small that their website indicates no phone # 
or real email address?  I can message them through their website, but if 
there is no response, then what?  Stop and do nothing, even though we 
have a summer session course beginning in a couple of days?  I don't 
think so.


We want to do things the right way, the legal way, but if there is no 
one to deal with, then all I can do is print out my queries as evidence 
that I have covered my a-- and then we proceed on our own.  And if 
someone out there in the world comes forward and is upset, then I say, 
"Fine, PLEASE let us give you some money."  What alternative is there?


Maybe these little companies should turn over the business side of their 
operation to some larger entity (e.g. Action! Library Media Service, 
Midwest Tape, or someone of that ilk) who can operate efficiently.  
Comments?


On 5/16/2012 12:30 PM, Dennis Doros wrote:

Roger,

I would still say based on Judith's assessment and looking over a 
little of the decision and the opinions, that Jessica is correct in 
saying that if 100% of a copyrighted material is put up on a 
University streaming site where the rights are readily available, then 
there is no part of this decision that would say it's permissible. And 
I do believe Jessica is right that there are many institutions that 
are allowing this to happen.


I would like to remind one and all that we are ALL colleagues in the 
educational field and any direct or indirect insults from anybody on 
this listserv is uncalled for. With Gary heading off to sunsets on the 
beach drinking single-malt scotch after rum toddy chasers (Gary, I'm 
sure you're going to correct me on this!), we should be even more civil.


And as we are an audiovisual crowd, I like to link my suggestions to 
videos. Here's today's suggested view 
. And please note, this 
clip is less than 10% of the feature film. ;-)


Best regards,
Dennis Doros
Milestone Film & Video/Milliarium Zero
PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640
Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.com 

Visit our main website! www.milestonefilms.com 

Visit our other websites! www.comebackafrica.com 
 www.yougottomove.com 
 www.ontheboweryfilm.com 
 www.arayafilm.com 
 www.exilesfilm.com 
 www.wordisoutmovie.com 
 www.killerofsheep.com 



Support "Milestone Film" on Facebook 
 and Twitter 
!
See the website: Association of Moving Image Archivists 
 and like them on Facebook 



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On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Brown, Roger > wrote:


Thank you Judith. It looks like you read the entire decision (at
least, wait for it... the good parts) and understand the specifics
and the exceptions of this particular decision.

Each case is only more case law, not (so far) a definitive
decision on fair use.  Well-reasoned analyses with a minimum of
typographic errors are always welcome.


- -

Roger Brown
Manager
UCLA Instructional Media Collections & Services
46 Powell Library
Los Angeles, CA  90095-1517
office: 310-206-1248 
fax: 310-206-5392 
rbr...@oid.ucla.edu 


From: "Shoaf,Judith P" mailto:jsh...@ufl.edu>>
Reply-To: mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu>>
Date: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:42 PM
To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
" mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu>>
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Permissible amounts in fair use

I once took that personality test online and it said I am most
like Lucy in Peanuts. My husband, who is most like Schroeder,
doesn't let me forget it. Nickels welcome.

Judge Evans talks about the Kinko's and Michigan Documents cases,
and disagrees about the "good parts" argument. In only one of the
cases she considers does she say that the excerpt constituted "the
heart of the work." I'm not sure whether this is because a
plaintiff argued it or it was her own analysis.

NB she looks at 74 cases, of which 27 fail the prima facie
copyright violation test because either the plaintiffs were not
able to show they had t