Re: [Videolib] Nonprofit exemption

[Jessica Rosner]

Sarah
I believe most librarians are good guys but I think they are under a lot of
pressure from instructurs to get any material they need in whatever format
they ask and from admiinstration to cut costs.

I don't have the budge to go to conferences especially in Colorado but I
there it is clear that the same people present the same views with little
or no input from rights holders.On the one hand I sincerely doubt an effort
is made to reach out to say the MPAA or studios on the other hand those
guys tend to pretty clueless however as long as  the presentation and
information comes from one side I don't think anyone benefits. I am not a
lawyer but I am sure there are copyright lawyers who work for rights
holders who would be willing to attend or participate in these events

Now I actually have been to three conferences which to say the least  left
me very cynical. The first which I know I have mentioned often was ALA in
Chicago years ago where I believe Kevin Smith first claimed that films that
played in theaters for "entertainment" (in this case Citizen Kane) were
"transformed " by being used in classes and thus one could break encryption
and stream any feature film without a license ( and also as I have noted ad
nasuem when I asked if this also applied to books sold to the public like
Catcher in the Rye I was told "this was an interesting question)

The second one was at NYU where I literally got in a screaming match with
well known person in academic media who said that if a film was not
available in the format they wanted then schools could use pirate copies,
dupes etc.

The third one was a session at the Kernochan which is a bit of blur but
there was a real debate discussion between at least one  major copyright IP
specialist and several from the academic community.

It would do no good at all for me to go to these conferences my continuing
point is that at least where film/av is concerned legal reps from rights
holders ought to be invited. I see very little evidence that they are.




On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Sarah E. McCleskey <
sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu> wrote:

> I believe the schedule and presentation slides are online.
>
> Most librarians are trying to be the good guy and not rip other people
> off. I suggest you start actually attending these conferences before
> issuing uninformed blanket judgments from anonymous IP attorneys who
> weren't even there. Context is key.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 10, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Jessica Rosner  wrote:
>
> Sarah
> Out of curiosity I checked with two copyright lawyers I know. Neither
> actually knew of the Kraemer seminars and neither had heard the one law
> film that was a sponsor ( along with many academic groups) but said that
> person listed as their IP leader was a trademark lawyer who was not
> involved in copyright law. I would sincerely be interested in any more
> information on the IP lawyers and their presentations if you remember them.
> I understand this a conference from the Academic perspective but  I remain
> highly cynical that rights holders were fairly represented.
>
> Again my big issue is that too much of this is echo chamber discussion and
> that these issues need to be discussed and debated by a much broader and
> balanced group.
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Sarah E. McCleskey <
> sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jessica,
>>
>> You might be surprised to know that the UCCS Copyright conference was
>> sponsored by (among others) a law firm specializing in intellectual
>> property. Several IP attorneys gave a number of very useful presentations
>> and engaged with attendees informally in discussions.
>>
>> Their presence definitely added a different, and welcome, perspective to
>> the event.
>>
>> Sarah McCleskey
>> Head of Access Services
>> Hofstra University Library
>> sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 7, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Jessica Rosner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> My problem with things like this and the you can stream any feature film
>> released in theaters without permission/license claim/theory is that all
>>  these "theories" some  from the same exact voices in the same echo
>> chamber. IF institutions actually believed this was legal, then they should
>> state so publically on their web sites and/or inform rights holders
>> particularly major studios, foreign distributors etc in writing. The dirty
>> little secret is that  a lot of illegal streaming and showing does go on
>> but rights holders are in the dark and have no way to legally challenge it.
>> Now I don't actually expect a school to send a letter to Disney saying "We
>> are streaming FANTASIA" to our 500 intro to animation students and we don't
>> believe we need to pay you or get your permission" but it would be
>> interesting if they did and might actually result in  the kind of legal
>> clarity people say they want.. What I would like is for there to 

Re: [Videolib] Nonprofit exemption

[Sarah E. McCleskey]

I believe the schedule and presentation slides are online.

Most librarians are trying to be the good guy and not rip other people off. I 
suggest you start actually attending these conferences before issuing 
uninformed blanket judgments from anonymous IP attorneys who weren't even 
there. Context is key.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 10, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Jessica Rosner 
> wrote:

Sarah
Out of curiosity I checked with two copyright lawyers I know. Neither actually 
knew of the Kraemer seminars and neither had heard the one law film that was a 
sponsor ( along with many academic groups) but said that person listed as their 
IP leader was a trademark lawyer who was not involved in copyright law. I would 
sincerely be interested in any more information on the IP lawyers and their 
presentations if you remember them. I understand this a conference from the 
Academic perspective but  I remain highly cynical that rights holders were 
fairly represented.

Again my big issue is that too much of this is echo chamber discussion and that 
these issues need to be discussed and debated by a much broader and balanced 
group.

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Sarah E. McCleskey 
> wrote:
Hi Jessica,

You might be surprised to know that the UCCS Copyright conference was sponsored 
by (among others) a law firm specializing in intellectual property. Several IP 
attorneys gave a number of very useful presentations and engaged with attendees 
informally in discussions.

Their presence definitely added a different, and welcome, perspective to the 
event.

Sarah McCleskey
Head of Access Services
Hofstra University Library
sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 7, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Jessica Rosner 
> wrote:

My problem with things like this and the you can stream any feature film 
released in theaters without permission/license claim/theory is that all  these 
"theories" some  from the same exact voices in the same echo chamber. IF 
institutions actually believed this was legal, then they should state so 
publically on their web sites and/or inform rights holders particularly major 
studios, foreign distributors etc in writing. The dirty little secret is that  
a lot of illegal streaming and showing does go on but rights holders are in the 
dark and have no way to legally challenge it. Now I don't actually expect a 
school to send a letter to Disney saying "We are streaming FANTASIA" to our 500 
intro to animation students and we don't believe we need to pay you or get your 
permission" but it would be interesting if they did and might actually result 
in  the kind of legal clarity people say they want.. What I would like is for 
there to be more balance in the voices,sources that the educational community 
solicits for opinions. Is it really that much to ask for the many, many 
webinars, seminars etc,  to invite a legal representive from a studio, 
filmmaker or similar to participate?

Jessica

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Sarah E. McCleskey 
> wrote:
I think it is worthy of investigation. This is not an endorsement or an 
indication that I would consider using the exemption without having much more 
information.

It benefits us all to have raised awareness of the law imho.


Sarah McCleskey
Head of Access Services
Hofstra University Library
sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 7, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Dennis Doros 
> wrote:

I'm agreeing with Andy and would like to point out...

"performance of a nondramatic literary or musical work otherwise than in a 
transmission to the public"

The use of "otherwise" makes me believe that "transmission" (usually meaning a 
by mechanical method -- ie. a projector or monitor) to the public is not 
permitted.


Best regards,
Dennis Doros
Milestone Film & Video
PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640
Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / 
Email: milefi...@gmail.com
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On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Deg Farrelly 
> wrote:
Attending the Kraemer Copyright Symposium in Colorado Springs.  (Kenneth Crewes 
and Kevin Smith making great presentations among others...)

At a session yesterday, delivered by IP lawyers, the notion of the non-profit 
exemption for use of non-literary and music works was raised.

Quite 

Re: [Videolib] Nonprofit exemption

[Jessica Rosner]

Sarah
Out of curiosity I checked with two copyright lawyers I know. Neither
actually knew of the Kraemer seminars and neither had heard the one law
film that was a sponsor ( along with many academic groups) but said that
person listed as their IP leader was a trademark lawyer who was not
involved in copyright law. I would sincerely be interested in any more
information on the IP lawyers and their presentations if you remember them.
I understand this a conference from the Academic perspective but  I remain
highly cynical that rights holders were fairly represented.

Again my big issue is that too much of this is echo chamber discussion and
that these issues need to be discussed and debated by a much broader and
balanced group.

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Sarah E. McCleskey <
sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu> wrote:

> Hi Jessica,
>
> You might be surprised to know that the UCCS Copyright conference was
> sponsored by (among others) a law firm specializing in intellectual
> property. Several IP attorneys gave a number of very useful presentations
> and engaged with attendees informally in discussions.
>
> Their presence definitely added a different, and welcome, perspective to
> the event.
>
> Sarah McCleskey
> Head of Access Services
> Hofstra University Library
> sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 7, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Jessica Rosner 
> wrote:
>
> My problem with things like this and the you can stream any feature film
> released in theaters without permission/license claim/theory is that all
>  these "theories" some  from the same exact voices in the same echo
> chamber. IF institutions actually believed this was legal, then they should
> state so publically on their web sites and/or inform rights holders
> particularly major studios, foreign distributors etc in writing. The dirty
> little secret is that  a lot of illegal streaming and showing does go on
> but rights holders are in the dark and have no way to legally challenge it.
> Now I don't actually expect a school to send a letter to Disney saying "We
> are streaming FANTASIA" to our 500 intro to animation students and we don't
> believe we need to pay you or get your permission" but it would be
> interesting if they did and might actually result in  the kind of legal
> clarity people say they want.. What I would like is for there to be more
> balance in the voices,sources that the educational community solicits for
> opinions. Is it really that much to ask for the many, many webinars,
> seminars etc,  to invite a legal representive from a studio, filmmaker or
> similar to participate?
>
> Jessica
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Sarah E. McCleskey <
> sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu> wrote:
>
>> I think it is worthy of investigation. This is not an endorsement or an
>> indication that I would consider using the exemption without having much
>> more information.
>>
>> It benefits us all to have raised awareness of the law imho.
>>
>>
>> Sarah McCleskey
>> Head of Access Services
>> Hofstra University Library
>> sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 7, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Dennis Doros  wrote:
>>
>> I'm agreeing with Andy and would like to point out...
>>
>> "performance of a nondramatic literary or musical work *otherwise* than
>> in a transmission to the public"
>>
>> The use of "otherwise" makes me believe that "transmission" (usually
>> meaning a by mechanical method -- ie. a projector or monitor) to the public
>> is not permitted.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Dennis Doros
>> Milestone Film & Video
>> PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640
>> Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.com
>> www.milestone.film
>>
>>
>> JOIN OUR MAILING LIST TODAY!
>> 
>> Support us on Facebook
>>  and Twitter
>> !
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Deg Farrelly 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Attending the Kraemer Copyright Symposium in Colorado Springs.  (Kenneth
>>> Crewes and Kevin Smith making great presentations among others...)
>>>
>>> At a session yesterday, delivered by IP lawyers, the notion of the
>>> non-profit exemption for use of non-literary and music works was raised.
>>>
>>> Quite honestly, this is one exemption I don't recall hearing about
>>> before.  Sarah McClesky commented similarly.
>>>
>>> Worth looking into furtherthis may be an exemption that allows
>>> student groups and other campus activities to screen documentary works
>>> without securing public performance rights!
>>>
>>> deg farrelly
>>>
>>>
>>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
>>> control, preservation, and use of current and 

Re: [Videolib] Nonprofit exemption

[Jessica Rosner]

Sorry I looked it up and the one at Columbia was Kernochan. Mixed my K's up.




On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Eric J Harbeson <
eric.harbe...@colorado.edu> wrote:

> Jessica and all,
>
> Just to clarify, Kraemer Copyright Conference (formerly the UCCS Copyright
> Conference) is and has always been in Colorado Springs.  That's the one
> that folks are talking about now. :)
>
> Eric
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>
> _
> From: Jessica Rosner <maddux2...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 7:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [Videolib] Nonprofit exemption
> To: <videolib@lists.berkeley.edu>
>
>
>
> Yes I know this happens at Kraemer which I went to once in NYC BUT in the
> dozens of other webninars and seminars mentioned here I never see any
> representation from from rights holders. I am curious if in the specific
> discussion on the "non profit" exemption was there any participation by
> right holders? I am also curious if the responses posted here regarding how
> the wording did not in fact cover  films came up in the discussion at the
> conference.
>
> Again the bigger issue to me are the seemingly endless 'in house"
> presentations of copyright issues like the "entertainment to education"
> transformative never include rights holders and that if an institution
> believes it to be accurate it does not cease paying for any licenses and
> inform rights holders either directly or posting its policies online?
>
>
> Jessica
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Sarah E. McCleskey <
> sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jessica,
>>
>> You might be surprised to know that the UCCS Copyright conference was
>> sponsored by (among others) a law firm specializing in intellectual
>> property. Several IP attorneys gave a number of very useful presentations
>> and engaged with attendees informally in discussions.
>>
>> Their presence definitely added a different, and welcome, perspective to
>> the event.
>>
>> Sarah McCleskey
>> Head of Access Services
>> Hofstra University Library
>> sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 7, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Jessica Rosner <jessicapros...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> My problem with things like this and the you can stream any feature film
>> released in theaters without permission/license claim/theory is that all
>>  these "theories" some  from the same exact voices in the same echo
>> chamber. IF institutions actually believed this was legal, then they should
>> state so publically on their web sites and/or inform rights holders
>> particularly major studios, foreign distributors etc in writing. The dirty
>> little secret is that  a lot of illegal streaming and showing does go on
>> but rights holders are in the dark and have no way to legally challenge it.
>> Now I don't actually expect a school to send a letter to Disney saying "We
>> are streaming FANTASIA" to our 500 intro to animation students and we don't
>> believe we need to pay you or get your permission" but it would be
>> interesting if they did and might actually result in  the kind of legal
>> clarity people say they want.. What I would like is for there to be more
>> balance in the voices,sources that the educational community solicits for
>> opinions. Is it really that much to ask for the many, many webinars,
>> seminars etc,  to invite a legal representive from a studio, filmmaker or
>> similar to participate?
>>
>> Jessica
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Sarah E. McCleskey <
>> sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> I think it is worthy of investigation. This is not an endorsement or an
>>> indication that I would consider using the exemption without having much
>>> more information.
>>>
>>> It benefits us all to have raised awareness of the law imho.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sarah McCleskey
>>> Head of Access Services
>>> Hofstra University Library
>>> sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jun 7, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Dennis Doros <milefi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm agreeing with Andy and would like to point out...
>>>
>>> "performance of a nondramatic literary or musical work*otherwise* than
>>> in a transmission to the public"
>>>
>>> The use of "otherwise" makes me believe that "trans

Re: [Videolib] Nonprofit exemption

[Eric J Harbeson]

Jessica and all,

Just to clarify, Kraemer Copyright Conference (formerly the UCCS Copyright 
Conference) is and has always been in Colorado Springs.  That's the one that 
folks are talking about now. :)

Eric

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

_
From: Jessica Rosner <maddux2...@gmail.com<mailto:maddux2...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Nonprofit exemption
To: <videolib@lists.berkeley.edu<mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu>>


Yes I know this happens at Kraemer which I went to once in NYC BUT in the 
dozens of other webninars and seminars mentioned here I never see any 
representation from from rights holders. I am curious if in the specific 
discussion on the "non profit" exemption was there any participation by right 
holders? I am also curious if the responses posted here regarding how the 
wording did not in fact cover  films came up in the discussion at the 
conference.

Again the bigger issue to me are the seemingly endless 'in house" presentations 
of copyright issues like the "entertainment to education" transformative never 
include rights holders and that if an institution believes it to be accurate it 
does not cease paying for any licenses and inform rights holders either 
directly or posting its policies online?


Jessica

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Sarah E. McCleskey 
<sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu<mailto:sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu>> wrote:
Hi Jessica,

You might be surprised to know that the UCCS Copyright conference was sponsored 
by (among others) a law firm specializing in intellectual property. Several IP 
attorneys gave a number of very useful presentations and engaged with attendees 
informally in discussions.

Their presence definitely added a different, and welcome, perspective to the 
event.

Sarah McCleskey
Head of Access Services
Hofstra University Library
sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu<mailto:sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu>


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 7, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Jessica Rosner 
<jessicapros...@gmail.com<mailto:jessicapros...@gmail.com>> wrote:

My problem with things like this and the you can stream any feature film 
released in theaters without permission/license claim/theory is that all  these 
"theories" some  from the same exact voices in the same echo chamber. IF 
institutions actually believed this was legal, then they should state so 
publically on their web sites and/or inform rights holders particularly major 
studios, foreign distributors etc in writing. The dirty little secret is that  
a lot of illegal streaming and showing does go on but rights holders are in the 
dark and have no way to legally challenge it. Now I don't actually expect a 
school to send a letter to Disney saying "We are streaming FANTASIA" to our 500 
intro to animation students and we don't believe we need to pay you or get your 
permission" but it would be interesting if they did and might actually result 
in  the kind of legal clarity people say they want.. What I would like is for 
there to be more balance in the voices,sources that the educational community 
solicits for opinions. Is it really that much to ask for the many, many 
webinars, seminars etc,  to invite a legal representive from a studio, 
filmmaker or similar to participate?

Jessica

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Sarah E. McCleskey 
<sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu<mailto:sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu>> wrote:
I think it is worthy of investigation. This is not an endorsement or an 
indication that I would consider using the exemption without having much more 
information.

It benefits us all to have raised awareness of the law imho.


Sarah McCleskey
Head of Access Services
Hofstra University Library
sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu<mailto:sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu>


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 7, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Dennis Doros 
<milefi...@gmail.com<mailto:milefi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I'm agreeing with Andy and would like to point out...

"performance of a nondramatic literary or musical workotherwise than in a 
transmission to the public"

The use of "otherwise" makes me believe that "transmission" (usually meaning a 
by mechanical method -- ie. a projector or monitor) to the public is not 
permitted.


Best regards,
Dennis Doros
Milestone Film & Video
PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640
Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax:201-767-3035 / Email: 
milefi...@gmail.com<mailto:milefi...@gmail.com>
www.milestone.film<http://www.milestone.film>

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Re: [Videolib] Nonprofit exemption

[Jessica Rosner]

Yes I know this happens at Kraemer which I went to once in NYC BUT in the
dozens of other webninars and seminars mentioned here I never see any
representation from from rights holders. I am curious if in the specific
discussion on the "non profit" exemption was there any participation by
right holders? I am also curious if the responses posted here regarding how
the wording did not in fact cover  films came up in the discussion at the
conference.

Again the bigger issue to me are the seemingly endless 'in house"
presentations of copyright issues like the "entertainment to education"
transformative never include rights holders and that if an institution
believes it to be accurate it does not cease paying for any licenses and
inform rights holders either directly or posting its policies online?


Jessica

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Sarah E. McCleskey <
sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu> wrote:

> Hi Jessica,
>
> You might be surprised to know that the UCCS Copyright conference was
> sponsored by (among others) a law firm specializing in intellectual
> property. Several IP attorneys gave a number of very useful presentations
> and engaged with attendees informally in discussions.
>
> Their presence definitely added a different, and welcome, perspective to
> the event.
>
> Sarah McCleskey
> Head of Access Services
> Hofstra University Library
> sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 7, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Jessica Rosner 
> wrote:
>
> My problem with things like this and the you can stream any feature film
> released in theaters without permission/license claim/theory is that all
>  these "theories" some  from the same exact voices in the same echo
> chamber. IF institutions actually believed this was legal, then they should
> state so publically on their web sites and/or inform rights holders
> particularly major studios, foreign distributors etc in writing. The dirty
> little secret is that  a lot of illegal streaming and showing does go on
> but rights holders are in the dark and have no way to legally challenge it.
> Now I don't actually expect a school to send a letter to Disney saying "We
> are streaming FANTASIA" to our 500 intro to animation students and we don't
> believe we need to pay you or get your permission" but it would be
> interesting if they did and might actually result in  the kind of legal
> clarity people say they want.. What I would like is for there to be more
> balance in the voices,sources that the educational community solicits for
> opinions. Is it really that much to ask for the many, many webinars,
> seminars etc,  to invite a legal representive from a studio, filmmaker or
> similar to participate?
>
> Jessica
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Sarah E. McCleskey <
> sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu> wrote:
>
>> I think it is worthy of investigation. This is not an endorsement or an
>> indication that I would consider using the exemption without having much
>> more information.
>>
>> It benefits us all to have raised awareness of the law imho.
>>
>>
>> Sarah McCleskey
>> Head of Access Services
>> Hofstra University Library
>> sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 7, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Dennis Doros  wrote:
>>
>> I'm agreeing with Andy and would like to point out...
>>
>> "performance of a nondramatic literary or musical work *otherwise* than
>> in a transmission to the public"
>>
>> The use of "otherwise" makes me believe that "transmission" (usually
>> meaning a by mechanical method -- ie. a projector or monitor) to the public
>> is not permitted.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Dennis Doros
>> Milestone Film & Video
>> PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640
>> Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.com
>> www.milestone.film
>>
>>
>> JOIN OUR MAILING LIST TODAY!
>> 
>> Support us on Facebook
>>  and Twitter
>> !
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Deg Farrelly 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Attending the Kraemer Copyright Symposium in Colorado Springs.  (Kenneth
>>> Crewes and Kevin Smith making great presentations among others...)
>>>
>>> At a session yesterday, delivered by IP lawyers, the notion of the
>>> non-profit exemption for use of non-literary and music works was raised.
>>>
>>> Quite honestly, this is one exemption I don't recall hearing about
>>> before.  Sarah McClesky commented similarly.
>>>
>>> Worth looking into furtherthis may be an exemption that allows
>>> student groups and other campus activities to screen documentary works
>>> without securing public performance rights!
>>>
>>> deg farrelly
>>>
>>>
>>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, 

Re: [Videolib] Nonprofit exemption

[Sarah E. McCleskey]

Hi Jessica,

You might be surprised to know that the UCCS Copyright conference was sponsored 
by (among others) a law firm specializing in intellectual property. Several IP 
attorneys gave a number of very useful presentations and engaged with attendees 
informally in discussions.

Their presence definitely added a different, and welcome, perspective to the 
event.

Sarah McCleskey
Head of Access Services
Hofstra University Library
sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 7, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Jessica Rosner 
> wrote:

My problem with things like this and the you can stream any feature film 
released in theaters without permission/license claim/theory is that all  these 
"theories" some  from the same exact voices in the same echo chamber. IF 
institutions actually believed this was legal, then they should state so 
publically on their web sites and/or inform rights holders particularly major 
studios, foreign distributors etc in writing. The dirty little secret is that  
a lot of illegal streaming and showing does go on but rights holders are in the 
dark and have no way to legally challenge it. Now I don't actually expect a 
school to send a letter to Disney saying "We are streaming FANTASIA" to our 500 
intro to animation students and we don't believe we need to pay you or get your 
permission" but it would be interesting if they did and might actually result 
in  the kind of legal clarity people say they want.. What I would like is for 
there to be more balance in the voices,sources that the educational community 
solicits for opinions. Is it really that much to ask for the many, many 
webinars, seminars etc,  to invite a legal representive from a studio, 
filmmaker or similar to participate?

Jessica

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Sarah E. McCleskey 
> wrote:
I think it is worthy of investigation. This is not an endorsement or an 
indication that I would consider using the exemption without having much more 
information.

It benefits us all to have raised awareness of the law imho.


Sarah McCleskey
Head of Access Services
Hofstra University Library
sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 7, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Dennis Doros 
> wrote:

I'm agreeing with Andy and would like to point out...

"performance of a nondramatic literary or musical work otherwise than in a 
transmission to the public"

The use of "otherwise" makes me believe that "transmission" (usually meaning a 
by mechanical method -- ie. a projector or monitor) to the public is not 
permitted.


Best regards,
Dennis Doros
Milestone Film & Video
PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640
Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / 
Email: milefi...@gmail.com
www.milestone.film

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On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Deg Farrelly 
> wrote:
Attending the Kraemer Copyright Symposium in Colorado Springs.  (Kenneth Crewes 
and Kevin Smith making great presentations among others...)

At a session yesterday, delivered by IP lawyers, the notion of the non-profit 
exemption for use of non-literary and music works was raised.

Quite honestly, this is one exemption I don't recall hearing about before.  
Sarah McClesky commented similarly.

Worth looking into furtherthis may be an exemption that allows student 
groups and other campus activities to screen documentary works without securing 
public performance rights!

deg farrelly


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Re: [Videolib] Nonprofit exemption

[Bogage, Alan]

I think what faculty and librarians have trouble with is that a complete 
legally purchased film can be shown in class but for the exact same class and 
using the exact same film to be shown in a distance class, we have to pay 
significantly more licensing/access and do not even own the film.  So 
transformative fair use is sort of a work around.I agree though, it may not 
be justifiable in court.

Alan Bogage
Senior Director of Library, Media, and Distance Learning
Carroll Community College
1601 Washington Rd.
Westminster, MD.  21157
www.carrollcc.edu/Student-Services/Library


From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Eric J Harbeson
Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 1:00 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Nonprofit exemption

All,

110(4) is a great (and under-appreciated) bit of law, but why would it apply to 
audiovisual works when it doesn’t specifically mention them?  Are documentary 
films really both literary and audiovisual works?

Eric Harbeson

From: 
videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu<mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu> 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 7:25 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu<mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu>
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Nonprofit exemption

My problem with things like this and the you can stream any feature film 
released in theaters without permission/license claim/theory is that all  these 
"theories" some  from the same exact voices in the same echo chamber. IF 
institutions actually believed this was legal, then they should state so 
publically on their web sites and/or inform rights holders particularly major 
studios, foreign distributors etc in writing. The dirty little secret is that  
a lot of illegal streaming and showing does go on but rights holders are in the 
dark and have no way to legally challenge it. Now I don't actually expect a 
school to send a letter to Disney saying "We are streaming FANTASIA" to our 500 
intro to animation students and we don't believe we need to pay you or get your 
permission" but it would be interesting if they did and might actually result 
in  the kind of legal clarity people say they want.. What I would like is for 
there to be more balance in the voices,sources that the educational community 
solicits for opinions. Is it really that much to ask for the many, many 
webinars, seminars etc,  to invite a legal representive from a studio, 
filmmaker or similar to participate?

Jessica

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Sarah E. McCleskey 
<sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu<mailto:sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu>> wrote:
I think it is worthy of investigation. This is not an endorsement or an 
indication that I would consider using the exemption without having much more 
information.

It benefits us all to have raised awareness of the law imho.


Sarah McCleskey
Head of Access Services
Hofstra University Library
sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu<mailto:sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu>


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 7, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Dennis Doros 
<milefi...@gmail.com<mailto:milefi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'm agreeing with Andy and would like to point out...

"performance of a nondramatic literary or musical work otherwise than in a 
transmission to the public"

The use of "otherwise" makes me believe that "transmission" (usually meaning a 
by mechanical method -- ie. a projector or monitor) to the public is not 
permitted.


Best regards,
Dennis Doros
Milestone Film & Video
PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640
Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / 
Email: milefi...@gmail.com<mailto:milefi...@gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Deg Farrelly 
<deg.farre...@asu.edu<mailto:deg.farre...@asu.edu>> wrote:
Attending the Kraemer Copyright Symposium in Colorado Springs.  (Kenneth Crewes 
and Kevin Smith making great presentations among others...)

At a session yesterday, delivered by IP lawyers, the notion of the non-profit 
exemption for use of non-literary and music works was raised.

Quite honestly, this is one exemption I don't recall hearing about before.  
Sarah McClesky commented similarly.

Worth looking into furtherthis may be an exemption that allows student 
groups and other campus activities to screen documentary works without securing 
public performance rights!

deg farrelly

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
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Re: [Videolib] Nonprofit exemption

[Eric J Harbeson]

All,

110(4) is a great (and under-appreciated) bit of law, but why would it apply to 
audiovisual works when it doesn’t specifically mention them?  Are documentary 
films really both literary and audiovisual works?

Eric Harbeson

From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 7:25 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Nonprofit exemption

My problem with things like this and the you can stream any feature film 
released in theaters without permission/license claim/theory is that all  these 
"theories" some  from the same exact voices in the same echo chamber. IF 
institutions actually believed this was legal, then they should state so 
publically on their web sites and/or inform rights holders particularly major 
studios, foreign distributors etc in writing. The dirty little secret is that  
a lot of illegal streaming and showing does go on but rights holders are in the 
dark and have no way to legally challenge it. Now I don't actually expect a 
school to send a letter to Disney saying "We are streaming FANTASIA" to our 500 
intro to animation students and we don't believe we need to pay you or get your 
permission" but it would be interesting if they did and might actually result 
in  the kind of legal clarity people say they want.. What I would like is for 
there to be more balance in the voices,sources that the educational community 
solicits for opinions. Is it really that much to ask for the many, many 
webinars, seminars etc,  to invite a legal representive from a studio, 
filmmaker or similar to participate?

Jessica

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Sarah E. McCleskey 
<sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu<mailto:sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu>> wrote:
I think it is worthy of investigation. This is not an endorsement or an 
indication that I would consider using the exemption without having much more 
information.

It benefits us all to have raised awareness of the law imho.


Sarah McCleskey
Head of Access Services
Hofstra University Library
sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu<mailto:sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu>


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 7, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Dennis Doros 
<milefi...@gmail.com<mailto:milefi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'm agreeing with Andy and would like to point out...

"performance of a nondramatic literary or musical work otherwise than in a 
transmission to the public"

The use of "otherwise" makes me believe that "transmission" (usually meaning a 
by mechanical method -- ie. a projector or monitor) to the public is not 
permitted.


Best regards,
Dennis Doros
Milestone Film & Video
PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640
Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / 
Email: milefi...@gmail.com<mailto:milefi...@gmail.com>
www.milestone.film<http://www.milestone.film>

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On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Deg Farrelly 
<deg.farre...@asu.edu<mailto:deg.farre...@asu.edu>> wrote:
Attending the Kraemer Copyright Symposium in Colorado Springs.  (Kenneth Crewes 
and Kevin Smith making great presentations among others...)

At a session yesterday, delivered by IP lawyers, the notion of the non-profit 
exemption for use of non-literary and music works was raised.

Quite honestly, this is one exemption I don't recall hearing about before.  
Sarah McClesky commented similarly.

Worth looking into furtherthis may be an exemption that allows student 
groups and other campus activities to screen documentary works without securing 
public performance rights!

deg farrelly

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
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Re: [Videolib] Nonprofit exemption

[Jessica Rosner]

My problem with things like this and the you can stream any feature film
released in theaters without permission/license claim/theory is that all
 these "theories" some  from the same exact voices in the same echo
chamber. IF institutions actually believed this was legal, then they should
state so publically on their web sites and/or inform rights holders
particularly major studios, foreign distributors etc in writing. The dirty
little secret is that  a lot of illegal streaming and showing does go on
but rights holders are in the dark and have no way to legally challenge it.
Now I don't actually expect a school to send a letter to Disney saying "We
are streaming FANTASIA" to our 500 intro to animation students and we don't
believe we need to pay you or get your permission" but it would be
interesting if they did and might actually result in  the kind of legal
clarity people say they want.. What I would like is for there to be more
balance in the voices,sources that the educational community solicits for
opinions. Is it really that much to ask for the many, many webinars,
seminars etc,  to invite a legal representive from a studio, filmmaker or
similar to participate?

Jessica

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Sarah E. McCleskey <
sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu> wrote:

> I think it is worthy of investigation. This is not an endorsement or an
> indication that I would consider using the exemption without having much
> more information.
>
> It benefits us all to have raised awareness of the law imho.
>
>
> Sarah McCleskey
> Head of Access Services
> Hofstra University Library
> sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 7, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Dennis Doros  wrote:
>
> I'm agreeing with Andy and would like to point out...
>
> "performance of a nondramatic literary or musical work *otherwise* than
> in a transmission to the public"
>
> The use of "otherwise" makes me believe that "transmission" (usually
> meaning a by mechanical method -- ie. a projector or monitor) to the public
> is not permitted.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Dennis Doros
> Milestone Film & Video
> PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640
> Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.com
> www.milestone.film
>
>
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> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Deg Farrelly  wrote:
>
>> Attending the Kraemer Copyright Symposium in Colorado Springs.  (Kenneth
>> Crewes and Kevin Smith making great presentations among others...)
>>
>> At a session yesterday, delivered by IP lawyers, the notion of the
>> non-profit exemption for use of non-literary and music works was raised.
>>
>> Quite honestly, this is one exemption I don't recall hearing about
>> before.  Sarah McClesky commented similarly.
>>
>> Worth looking into furtherthis may be an exemption that allows
>> student groups and other campus activities to screen documentary works
>> without securing public performance rights!
>>
>> deg farrelly
>>
>>
>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
>> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
>> producers and distributors.
>>
>>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>
>


-- 
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Re: [Videolib] Nonprofit exemption

[Dennis Doros]

I'm agreeing with Andy and would like to point out...

"performance of a nondramatic literary or musical work *otherwise* than in
a transmission to the public"

The use of "otherwise" makes me believe that "transmission" (usually
meaning a by mechanical method -- ie. a projector or monitor) to the public
is not permitted.


Best regards,
Dennis Doros
Milestone Film & Video
PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640
Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.com
www.milestone.film


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On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Deg Farrelly  wrote:

> Attending the Kraemer Copyright Symposium in Colorado Springs.  (Kenneth
> Crewes and Kevin Smith making great presentations among others...)
>
> At a session yesterday, delivered by IP lawyers, the notion of the
> non-profit exemption for use of non-literary and music works was raised.
>
> Quite honestly, this is one exemption I don't recall hearing about
> before.  Sarah McClesky commented similarly.
>
> Worth looking into furtherthis may be an exemption that allows student
> groups and other campus activities to screen documentary works without
> securing public performance rights!
>
> deg farrelly
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>
>
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

Re: [Videolib] Nonprofit exemption

[Andrew Horbal]

Hi deg and Sarah,

110(4)  seems to me to
refer specifically to "nondramatic *literary or musical work*[s]." The
Copyright
Office's glossary  notes that
"nondramatic literary works are intended to be read; they are not intended
to be performed before an audience" and provides the following examples:
fiction, nonfiction, poetry, directories, catalogs, textbooks, reference
works, advertising copy, compilations of information, computer programs,
databases, and other textual works. This source
 (the accuracy of
which I cannot verify) defines nondramatic musical works as "popular songs,
not incorporated and performed in an opera or theater musical."

For these reasons, it's not clear to me that 110(4) would apply to
documentary films.

Andy

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Sarah E. McCleskey <
sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu> wrote:

> It's section 110 (4). Fascinating.
>
> Sarah McCleskey
> Head of Access Services
> Hofstra University Library
> sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 7, 2016, at 11:13 AM, Deg Farrelly  wrote:
> >
> > Attending the Kraemer Copyright Symposium in Colorado Springs.  (Kenneth
> Crewes and Kevin Smith making great presentations among others...)
> >
> > At a session yesterday, delivered by IP lawyers, the notion of the
> non-profit exemption for use of non-literary and music works was raised.
> >
> > Quite honestly, this is one exemption I don't recall hearing about
> before.  Sarah McClesky commented similarly.
> >
> > Worth looking into furtherthis may be an exemption that allows
> student groups and other campus activities to screen documentary works
> without securing public performance rights!
> >
> > deg farrelly
> >
> > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>



-- 
Andrew Horbal

Head of Learning Commons

1101 McKeldin Library

7649 Library Ln.

University of Maryland

College Park, MD 20742

(301) 405-9227

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Re: [Videolib] Nonprofit exemption

[Sarah E. McCleskey]

It's section 110 (4). Fascinating.

Sarah McCleskey
Head of Access Services
Hofstra University Library
sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 7, 2016, at 11:13 AM, Deg Farrelly  wrote:
> 
> Attending the Kraemer Copyright Symposium in Colorado Springs.  (Kenneth 
> Crewes and Kevin Smith making great presentations among others...)
> 
> At a session yesterday, delivered by IP lawyers, the notion of the non-profit 
> exemption for use of non-literary and music works was raised.
> 
> Quite honestly, this is one exemption I don't recall hearing about before.  
> Sarah McClesky commented similarly.
> 
> Worth looking into furtherthis may be an exemption that allows student 
> groups and other campus activities to screen documentary works without 
> securing public performance rights!
> 
> deg farrelly
> 
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
> distributors.

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

[Videolib] Nonprofit exemption

[Deg Farrelly]

Attending the Kraemer Copyright Symposium in Colorado Springs.  (Kenneth Crewes 
and Kevin Smith making great presentations among others...)

At a session yesterday, delivered by IP lawyers, the notion of the non-profit 
exemption for use of non-literary and music works was raised.

Quite honestly, this is one exemption I don't recall hearing about before.  
Sarah McClesky commented similarly.

Worth looking into furtherthis may be an exemption that allows student 
groups and other campus activities to screen documentary works without securing 
public performance rights!

deg farrelly

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.