Re: [Vietlug] VIQR-UTF8
On Sun, Jul 11, 2004 at 09:40:28AM +0700, pclouds wrote: Testing: Ba'c na`o muo^'n test co' the^? dda(ng ky' va`o vinux-testing ML. vinux-testing se~ ddo'ng vai tro` utf8 list. Co`n viqr list chi'nh la` vietlug. DDe^? dda(ng ky' thi` mail dde^'n [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vi` ly' do .. chu+a bie^'t :( vinux-testing-subscribe@ va` vinux-testing-unsubscribe@ ko hoa.t ddo^.ng. Ca'c ba'c co' the^? dda(ng ky' qua web: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vinux-testing DDe^? hu?y dda(ng ky', va`o link tre^n va` nha^.p email address va`o pha^`n ga^`n edit options, sau ddo' nha^.p ma^.t kha^?u va` unsubscribe. Ba'c na`o va^~n ga(.p tru.c tra(.c khi dda(ng ky', xin lie^n la.c vo+'i tui\. Ne^'u chi? muo^'n xem ma` ko thi'ch dda(ng ky' thi` archive o+? dda^y: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=vinux-testing (ca^`n chuye^?n encoding sang utf-8 ba(`ng tay, vi` hi`nh nhu+ no' du`ng ma(.c ddi.nh la` iso-8859-1) -- Bi C Lao --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idG21alloc_id040op=click ___ VietLUG-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vietlug-users
Re: [Vietlug] VIQR-UTF8
On Sunday 11 July 2004 09:40, pclouds wrote: Ye^u ca^`u: - Ne^'u dde^` nghi. na`y ddu+o+.c cha^'p nha^.n thi` ye^u ca^`u ca'c ba'c tre^n VIQR list vie^'t ddu'ng viqr. DDu+`ng ne^n vie^'t xem la^~n ko da^'u va` viqr, khi convert xong ra^'t kho' ddo.c. Vay la rac roi cho anh em roi!!! -- Ky Anh --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com ___ VietLUG-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vietlug-users
Re: [Vietlug] VIQR-UTF8
On Saturday 10 July 2004 10:40 pm, pclouds wrote:
U+u ddie^?m:
- Ca'c ba'c xa`i viqr se~ kho^ng (hoa(.c i't) bi. qua^'y ra^`y bo+?i
utf8 messages. Ca'c ba'c utf8 se~ ca?m tha^'y thoa?i ma'i ho+n khi
kho^ng pha?i ho.c ca'ch du`ng viqr.
. . . ho.c ca'ch du`ng Viqr nu+~a sao?
Mi`nh dda^u co' pha?i ho.c gi` dda^u? Cu+' mo'c cu? chuo^'i ra, lu+.a Viqr /
Vni ro^`i la` go~ nhu+ ma^y bay gio' cuo^'n, co' tha^'y gi` kho' kha(n dda^u?
No'i chung la`m 2 ca'i rie^ng ma` chung chi'nh la` 2 trong 1, hay la('m
chu+'. Nhu+ng mi`nh nghi~ kho^ng ne^n lo.c ca'c OT ra. Cu+' dde^? y chang cho
2 be^n gio^'ng nhau, chi? kha'c mo^.t be^n la` utf8, mo^.t be^n la` Viqr.
Be^n na`o cu~ng co' OT, ma` anh na`o post OT thi se~ pha?i lie^.u lo+`i xin
lo^~i tru+o+'c. He^~ ma` que^n dde^`u bi. ne'm dda' ra'ng chi.u.
Ca'i hi`nh thu+'c 2 trong 1 na`y ta^'t nhie^n kho^ng pha?i la` no^.i dung 1
trong 2 nhu+ ba.n OanhPham dde^` nghi. ro^`i. Mi`nh se~ pha't bie^?u tie^'p
trong mo^.t ca'i RE kha'c.
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Re: [Vietlug] VIQR
On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 05:56:05AM +0100, Viet Slackware wrote: btw..vu+`a vote 1 phie^'u cho giu+~ nguye^n ML ... co`n chuye^.n la`m ML Unicode thi` ba'c na`o hu+'ng thu' vie^'t ca'i gi` gi` ddo' auto convert ca'i Archive qua Unicode he? co' uvconvert cu?a ba'c Long ro^`i. Co`n procmail rules (hay ca'i gi` ddo' kha'c) thi` tui vie^'t :-D DDe^? bu+~a na`o la`m xong mo+`i ba'c test thu+? cho vui :) -- Bi C Lao --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com ___ VietLUG-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vietlug-users
Re: [Vietlug] VIQR
On Tue, 6 Jul 2004, pclouds wrote: On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 05:56:05AM +0100, Viet Slackware wrote: btw..vu+`a vote 1 phie^'u cho giu+~ nguye^n ML ... co`n chuye^.n la`m ML Unicode thi` ba'c na`o hu+'ng thu' vie^'t ca'i gi` gi` ddo' auto convert ca'i Archive qua Unicode he? co' uvconvert cu?a ba'c Long ro^`i. Co`n procmail rules (hay ca'i gi` ddo' kha'c) thi` tui vie^'t :-D DDe^? bu+~a na`o la`m xong mo+`i ba'c test thu+? cho vui :) Hi pclouds, Tru+o+'c dda^y hi`nh nhu+ mi`nh cu~ng post le^n ML 1 ca'i procmail rule dde^? convert utf-8 sang viqr. Gio+` cu+' post la.i xem co' giu'p gi` ddu+o+.c kho^ng: :0 fbw * ^TO_vietlug-users@ * ^Content-Type:.*charset.*utf-8 |~/bin/uvconv -f uviqr -t viqr 2/dev/null HTH, Long --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com ___ VietLUG-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vietlug-users
Re: [Vietlug] VIQR
--- Larry Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: + Tie^'ng Vie^.t thi` cho ra tie^'ng Vie^.t, kho^ng co' da^'u thi` ra tie^'ng gi`? + viqr la` mo^.t ba?ng ma~ k0 pha?i kie^?u go~ Wow, ca'i na`y mo+'i nghe a` nhe? The^' VIQR *input method* trong xvnkb, uim hay Unikey la` chi nhi? ? hehe, va^.y Telex, VNI la` kie^?u go~ hay ba?ng ma~ ? Hi`nh nhu+ VNI thi` la` ca? hai, co`n Telex chi? la` kie^?u go~ ?\ DDi ddo.c RFC1456 ddi cu ;)http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1456.html /me hu` ddo.c rfc nghe cho no' oai oai ;) ddi coi... -Larry --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com ___ VietLUG-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vietlug-users Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com ___ VietLUG-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vietlug-users
Re: [Vietlug] VIQR
On Mon, Jul 05, 2004 at 03:40:07PM +0900, Bit Takeshi wrote: No'i cho gi` thi` no'i, cu~ng nhu+ ba'c James no'i ro^`i, dda^y la` ML cu?a da^n ki~ thua^.t va` do ddo' no' ca^`n su+. chi'nh xa'c: VIQR dduo+.c du`ng, ca^`n ti'nh pho^? du.ng cao: do ddo' VIQR dduo+.c du`ng:) Va^.y [EMAIL PROTECTED] la` da`nh cho da^n ky~ thua^.t? Va^.y co' ne^n la^.p the^m mo^.t ca'i list da`nh cho da^n phi ky~ thua^.t ko ? -- Bi C Lao --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com ___ VietLUG-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vietlug-users
Re: [Vietlug] VIQR
--- Ky Anh [EMAIL PROTECTED] からのメッセージ： Viec noi hai ML la mot y tuong hay, nhung tai ton them mot "admin" nua, ma cong viec cung khong co gi thu vi. Co' cha(ng, ne^'u ca'c anh la admin cua "MailMan", thi tim cach them mo^.t "pre-cook" de "detect message" nao la uft8, message nao la "viqr", sau do "convert" qua luon (ko. biet MailMan cua VietLUG la` du`ng cu?a chung, hay la do "phe ta" qua?n ly'...) Em xin loi vi may cai keyboard cua em no' ko cha.y, phai go tieng Viet ko. dau. Thanh that xin loi cac anh!!! -- Ba'c co' bie^'T la` 1 trong nhu+~Ng rules cu?a vietlug ML la` pha?i go~ VIQR. Trong na`y mo.i nguo+`i la`m nhu+ the^'. Ca' nha^n em xoa' ta^'T ca? nhu+~Ng emails tu+` Vietlug kho^ng du`ng VIQR ;). No'i va^.y chu+' ba'c tho^ng ca?m VH http://www.fedu.uec.ac.jp/~vuhung/ http://chuiyang.org __ Do You Yahoo!? http://bb.yahoo.co.jp/ --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com ___ VietLUG-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vietlug-users
Re: [Vietlug] VIQR
Why not? That's good ideas. On Mon, 2004-07-05 at 14:14, pclouds wrote: On Mon, Jul 05, 2004 at 03:40:07PM +0900, Bit Takeshi wrote: No'i cho gi` thi` no'i, cu~ng nhu+ ba'c James no'i ro^`i, dda^y la` ML cu?a da^n ki~ thua^.t va` do ddo' no' ca^`n su+. chi'nh xa'c: VIQR dduo+.c du`ng, ca^`n ti'nh pho^? du.ng cao: do ddo' VIQR dduo+.c du`ng:) Va^.y [EMAIL PROTECTED] la` da`nh cho da^n ky~ thua^.t? Va^.y co' ne^n la^.p the^m mo^.t ca'i list da`nh cho da^n phi ky~ thua^.t ko ? --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com ___ VietLUG-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vietlug-users
Re: [Vietlug] VIQR
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004, b1nhb00ng wrote: On Sun, Jul 04, 2004 at 05:44:30AM -0500, Larry Nguyen wrote: Hmm, 0 co' o+? nha` ne^n 0 check dduoc ;) Oops my bad, xvnkb DOES have it. /me bangs his head against xvnkb tarball Wow, you admit that you were wrong! /me jumps up and down for joy No'i cho he^'t le~ thi` co' tru+o+`ng ho+.p viqr la` kie^?u go~ tha^.t (vi' du. trong gtk's input method) nhu+ng trong tru+o+`ng ho+.p na`y va` ha^`u he^'t ca'c tru+o+`ng ho+.p kha'c, viqr la` ba?ng ma~, sir See below ;) See above :) 4. SPECIFICATION OF VIQR MNEMONICS VIQR, VIetnamese Quoted-Readable specification, is not an encoding convention but is rather a convention for typing, reading, and transferring Vietnamese data using only the 7-bit ASCII character set. Last I check, typing == go~ Also, reading here can be associated with representation (or charset) DDo^`ng y'. Nhu+ng no'i VIQR kho^ng pha?i la` mo^.t kie^?u go~ (input method) thi` hoa`n toa`n sai. Admit it! Vi` dda^y la` kie^?u go~ VIQR ne` ;) -Larry --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com ___ VietLUG-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vietlug-users
Re: [Vietlug] VIQR
On Mon, 5 Jul 2004, pclouds wrote:
On Sun, Jul 04, 2004 at 02:48:26PM +0900, James Nguyen wrote:
Do va^.y mo+'i co' nhu+~ng ye^u ca^`u ve^` tri`nh ba`y mo^.t
email, thu+o+`ng ga(.p nha^'t la`
- kho^ng top posting
- kho^ng thread hijacking
- dda(.t topic ro~ ra`ng
- ca('t do`ng thi'ch ho+.p
- ca('t pha^`n thu+`a trong reply, ca('t qua?ng ca'o
- kho^ng du`ng HTML mail
Ra^'t hay. DDe^` nghi. ddu+a vo^ FAQ ;)
Hoi truoc co' ca'i FAQ cho ML nhu+ng vi` ca^?u tha? update Slash no' dde`
le^n ma^'t :(
-Larry
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Re: [Vietlug] VIQR
Larry wrote: On Sun, 4 Jul 2004, b1nhb00ng wrote: On Sun, Jul 04, 2004 at 05:44:30AM -0500, Larry Nguyen wrote: Hmm, 0 co' o+? nha` ne^n 0 check dduoc ;) Oops my bad, xvnkb DOES have it. /me bangs his head against xvnkb tarball Wow, you admit that you were wrong! /me jumps up and down for joy No'i cho he^'t le~ thi` co' tru+o+`ng ho+.p viqr la` kie^?u go~ tha^.t (vi' du. trong gtk's input method) nhu+ng trong tru+o+`ng ho+.p na`y va` ha^`u he^'t ca'c tru+o+`ng ho+.p kha'c, viqr la` ba?ng ma~, sir See below ;) See above :) 4. SPECIFICATION OF VIQR MNEMONICS VIQR, VIetnamese Quoted-Readable specification, is not an encoding convention but is rather a convention for typing, reading, and transferring Vietnamese data using only the 7-bit ASCII character set. Last I check, typing == go~ Also, reading here can be associated with representation (or charset) DDo^`ng y'. Nhu+ng no'i VIQR kho^ng pha?i la` mo^.t kie^?u go~ (input method) thi` hoa`n toa`n sai. Admit it! Vi` dda^y la` kie^?u go~ VIQR ne` ;) Em ngu+'a mo^`m nha?y vo^ mo^.t ti': sao ba'c Larry va` bb kho^ng coi VIQR nhu+ VNI ddu+.oc sao (ba'c VietSlackware da~ de^` ca^.p do'): vu+`a la` ca'ch go~, vu+`a la` ba~ng ma~: + typing method: bo+?i vi` ba'c cha(?ng ca^`n bo^. go~ na`o va^~n go~ du+o+.c no' + charset: bo+?i vi` co' the^? du`ng kie^?u go~ telex dde^? go~ ba?ng ma~ (go.i la` kie^?u go~ thi` sao nhi\?) VIQR /me dzo.t tru+o+'c kho^ng bb ngu+'a tay toa`n bo.p lung tung ;). --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com ___ VietLUG-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vietlug-users
Re: [Vietlug] VIQR
Thie^'t nghi~ ai dda~ mo` ma^~m vo^ mailinglist na`y thi` dda~ la` da^n ky~ thua^.t hay i't nha^'t la` cu~ng co' ta^m ho^`n ky~ thua^.t. Kho^ng the^? na`o tham gia ca'i List na`y ho?i ve^` nhu+~ng dde^` ta`i bash-scripting, C-coding hay hay la` Perl-hacking va` nhie^`u va^'n dde^` ky~ thua^.t kha'c ... no'i ddu'ng ra ga^`n nhu+ 100% la` ky~ thua^.t ma` than phie^`n la` go~ VIQR kho' hay la` phie^`n va` tu+. dda'nh gia' mi`nh la` ngu+o+`i kho^ng chuye^n ky~ thua^.t. tui u?ng ho^. ba'c 100% tui cu~ng cha? du`ng bo^. go~ na`o dde^? go~ VIQR ;) vo+'i la.i nguye^n thu?y ca'i VIQR ra ddo+`i cu~ng vi` lu'c ddo' kho^ng co' bo^. go~ charset cho tie^'ng Vie^.t btw..vu+`a vote 1 phie^'u cho giu+~ nguye^n ML ... co`n chuye^.n la`m ML Unicode thi` ba'c na`o hu+'ng thu' vie^'t ca'i gi` gi` ddo' auto convert ca'i Archive qua Unicode he? Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com ___ VietLUG-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vietlug-users
Re: [Vietlug] VIQR
Hoang Nam wrote: Em nha^.n ddu+o+.c 2 ca'i mails co' no^.i dung nhu+ sau : 1. con cai kieu nhu VIQR chi them mat thoi gian doi voi nguoi khong co quen dung thoi(TELEX, VNI thi to danh duoc day). Sao ba'c Nam kho^ng hu+o+'ng da^~n ho. du`ng bo^. go~ Unikey cu?a ba'c Long hay xvnkb cu?a ba'c La^m a^'y\. Du`ng ca'i ddo' thi` go~ theo kie^?u Telex cho ba?ng ma~ VIQR cu~ng co' to^'n tho+`i gian ho+n go~ vo+'i ca'c ba?ng ma~ kha'c da^u\. 2. Tieng Viet khong dau la mot dung cu de luyen tap tri nao rat tot, khong viec gi phai viet co dau ca??? Em cha(?ng tha^'y luye^.n tri' na~o gi` ca?, chi? to^? to^'n tho+`i gian di.ch nghi~a, nhie^`u khi co`n nha^`m nho.t lung tung (blackmind). Ma` luye^.n ca'i do' xong cha(?ng co`n tho+`i gian ma` luye^.n cho Linux nu+~a, ca'c ba'c nhi\? ;) Co`n chuye^.n mo.i ngu+o+`i kho^ng thi'ch a^'y ma`, ke^. ho. ddi ba'c Nam. No'i nhu+ ba'c James la` ddu'ng vi` co`n tu`y thuo^.c va`o quan he^. trao ddo^?i mail nu+~a chu+'. No'i nhu+ ba'c mkh_sgn cu~ng du'ng : bo+'i ra la`m gi` vi` suy cho cu`ng anh em mi`nh dda^u pha?i la` ca'c nha` ngo^n ngu+~ ho.c. Co`n no'i theo y' em: ke^. ho. ddi, anh em ta co' ca'i rie^ng cu?a anh em ta, ddu+o+.c la`m ca'i mi`nh thi'ch la` em tho?a ma~n ro^`i\. --- BITguy --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com ___ VietLUG-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vietlug-users
Re: [Vietlug] VIQR
+ Tie^'ng Vie^.t thi` cho ra tie^'ng Vie^.t, kho^ng co' da^'u thi` ra tie^'ng gi`? + viqr la` mo^.t ba?ng ma~ k0 pha?i kie^?u go~ Wow, ca'i na`y mo+'i nghe a` nhe? The^' VIQR *input method* trong xvnkb, uim hay Unikey la` chi nhi? ? Em nghi~, ca'i layout la` VIQR cha(?ng qua chi? la` chuye^?n ddo^?i tu+` ca'c kie^?u go~ kha'c qua VIQR ma` tho^i . Qua dda^y, ra^'t ca?m o+n ca'c ba'c dda~ cho y' kie^'n . Em dda~ co' 1 ca'ch nhi`n nha^.n ro~ ra`ng ho+n : ma(.c ke^. ! Xin ca?m o+n ca'c ba'c ra^'t nhie^`u . === Hoa`ngNam --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com ___ VietLUG-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vietlug-users
Re: [Vietlug] VIQR
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004, b1nhb00ng wrote: On Sun, Jul 04, 2004 at 04:00:53AM -0500, Larry Nguyen wrote: Wow, ca'i na`y mo+'i nghe a` nhe? The^' VIQR *input method* trong xvnkb, uim hay Unikey la` chi nhi? ? xvnkb k0 co' viqr input method :( Hmm, 0 co' o+? nha` ne^n 0 check dduoc ;) No'i cho he^'t le~ thi` co' tru+o+`ng ho+.p viqr la` kie^?u go~ tha^.t (vi' du. trong gtk's input method) nhu+ng trong tru+o+`ng ho+.p na`y va` ha^`u he^'t ca'c tru+o+`ng ho+.p kha'c, viqr la` ba?ng ma~, sir See below ;) DDi ddo.c RFC1456 ddi cu ;)http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1456.html ddo.c la.i ddi ... cu :p VIQR (pronounced vicker) is a mnemonic encoding of Vietnamese characters into US ASCII for use on 7-bit systems. You *did* read the whole thing, did you? 4. SPECIFICATION OF VIQR MNEMONICS VIQR, VIetnamese Quoted-Readable specification, is not an encoding convention but is rather a convention for typing, reading, and transferring Vietnamese data using only the 7-bit ASCII character set. Last I check, typing == go~ -Larry --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com ___ VietLUG-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vietlug-users
Re: [Vietlug] VIQR
On Sun, Jul 04, 2004 at 05:44:30AM -0500, Larry Nguyen wrote: Hmm, 0 co' o+? nha` ne^n 0 check dduoc ;) Oops my bad, xvnkb DOES have it. /me bangs his head against xvnkb tarball No'i cho he^'t le~ thi` co' tru+o+`ng ho+.p viqr la` kie^?u go~ tha^.t (vi' du. trong gtk's input method) nhu+ng trong tru+o+`ng ho+.p na`y va` ha^`u he^'t ca'c tru+o+`ng ho+.p kha'c, viqr la` ba?ng ma~, sir See below ;) See above :) 4. SPECIFICATION OF VIQR MNEMONICS VIQR, VIetnamese Quoted-Readable specification, is not an encoding convention but is rather a convention for typing, reading, and transferring Vietnamese data using only the 7-bit ASCII character set. Last I check, typing == go~ Also, reading here can be associated with representation (or charset) -- bb --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com ___ VietLUG-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vietlug-users
Re: [Vietlug] VIQR
On Sun, Jul 04, 2004 at 01:00:40PM +0900, HoangNam wrote:
1.
Thu that mot dieu voi Trung -Tron ve la to cung khong biet danh
VIQR, tai vi nhung nguoi nhan thu deu du thong minh de hieu noi
dung ca(me to 58 tuoi roi ma van doc duoc day thoi). Tieng Viet
thi cho ra tieng Viet, con cai kieu nhu VIQR chi them mat thoi
gian doi voi nguoi khong co quen dung thoi(TELEX, VNI thi to danh
duoc day)
+ Tie^'ng Vie^.t thi` cho ra tie^'ng Vie^.t, kho^ng co' da^'u thi` ra
tie^'ng gi`?
+ viqr la` mo^.t ba?ng ma~ k0 pha?i kie^?u go~
2.
Tieng Viet khong dau la mot dung cu de luyen tap tri nao rat tot,
khong viec gi phai viet co dau ca
Ne^n ba?o ba'c na`y dde^` nghi. le^n bo^. xem co' the^? in sa'ch gia'o
khoa k0 da^'u ddu+o+.c kho^ng; no' vu+`a bo^? i'ch cho tro`, vu+`a li'
thu' cho tha^`y. DDu+o+.c the^' thi` to^'t la('m, chi? tha^'y to^.i
cu. A-le^'ch-dan-ddo+` Ro^'t (Alexandre deRhodes) nga`y xu+a ma^'t
co^ng bo` ra sa`n nha`, lie^'m bu't ve~ the^m ra^u ria cho ca'c chu+~
ca'i dde^? pha^n bie^.t ca'ch pha't a^m...
Tie^'ng Vie^.t, cu~ng nhu+ mo.i ngo^n ngu+~ kha'c du`ng dde^? giao
thie^.p, lie^n la.c, truye^`n dda.t tho^ng tin, ne^'u pha?i vu+`a
ddo.c vu+`a lua^.n nghi~a chu+~ thi` vu+`a ma^'t tho+`i gian k0 ca^`n
thie^'t, vu+`a ... ha^m
my ddo^`ng xu 200 mo+'i cu+'ng
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Re: [Vietlug] VIQR
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 13:00:40 +0900
HoangNam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1.
Thu that mot dieu voi Trung -Tron ve la to cung khong biet danh
VIQR,
tai vi
nhung nguoi nhan thu deu du thong minh de hieu noi dung ca(me to 58
2.
Tieng Viet khong dau la mot dung cu de luyen tap tri nao rat tot,
khong viec gi phai viet co dau ca
Ca'c ba'c tha^'y the^' na`o ??
Tru+o+'c he^'t, khi muo^'n ba('t dda^`u mo^.t va^'n dde^`
mo+'i, ba'c pha?i ta.o mo^.t thread mo+'i. Reply mo^.t mail
kho^ng lie^n quan la` vie^.c la`m ga^y phie^`n phu+'c cho
nhie^`u ngu+o+`i (thread hijacking).
Ve^` chuye^.n VIQR:
Trong nhu+~ng mail list ve^` ky~ thua^.t no'i chung, vie^.c
tri`nh ba`y ro~ ra`ng y' kie^'n, ca^u ho?i cu?a mi`nh la`
ra^'t quan tro.ng. Co' nhu+ va^.y mo+'i thu hu't su+. chu' y'
cu?a nhie^`u ngu+o+`i, mo+'i mong ddu+o+.c ngu+o+`i kha'c
tra? lo+`i, go'p y', trao ddo^?i. Ke^'t qua? la` co' lo+.i
cho ba?n tha^n va` cho ngu+o+`i kha'c.
O+? nhu+~ng no+i na`y, ca`ng ro~ ra`ng de^~ hie^?u ca`ng
to^'t. Dda'nh ddo^' ngo^n ngu+~ kho^ng pha?i la` mu.c ddi'ch.
Ma^'t tho+`i gian cho vie^.c ddo' la` vo^ i'ch.
Do va^.y mo+'i co' nhu+~ng ye^u ca^`u ve^` tri`nh ba`y mo^.t
email, thu+o+`ng ga(.p nha^'t la`
- kho^ng top posting
- kho^ng thread hijacking
- dda(.t topic ro~ ra`ng
- ca('t do`ng thi'ch ho+.p
- ca('t pha^`n thu+`a trong reply, ca('t qua?ng ca'o
- kho^ng du`ng HTML mail
- go~ tie^'ng Vie^.t co' da^'u
Do va^'n dde^` ky~ thua^.t, ye^u ca^`u tu+o+ng thi'ch vo+'i
ta^'t ca? ca'c mo^i tru+o+`ng, VIQR la` gia?i pha'p duy nha^'t
hie^.n nay cho tie^'ng Vie^.t co' da^'u.
Khi gu+?i mail le^n ML ma` kho^ng ba?o ve^. nhu+~ng ye^u ca^`u
to^'i thie^?u ddo', nghi~a la` ba.n kho^ng to^n tro.ng ngu+o+`i
nha^.n (vo^ ti`nh hay co^' y'). Mail chu+'a pha^`n vo^ i'ch nhu+
qua?ng ca'o, html, pha^`n thu+`a thi` la`m mo+` pha^`n chu? ye^'u,
to^'n bandwidth. Mail vie^'t kho^ng ro~ ra`ng thi` ma^'t tho+`i gian
dde^? ddo.c va` hie^?u. Ddu+`ng hy vo.ng co' ddu+o+.c tra? lo+`i,
go'p y', trao ddo^?i khi gu+?i nhu+~ng mail nhu+ va^.y.
Trong chie^'n di.ch huy ddo^.ng go~ VIQR cu?a em , kho^ng bie^'t bao
nhie^u ngu+o+`i pha?n ddo^'i , cu~ng dda~ ga^y ra bao nhie^u xi'ch
mi'ch . Va` gio+` dda^y ho. no'i cho 1 tra`ng nhu+ the^' dda^'y . hic
Trao ddo^?i ca' nha^n la` va^'n dde^` kha'c. Co`n tu`y va`o
background, quan he^. vo+'i ngu+o+`i kia, e.g. co' dda'ng
dde^? bo? tho+`i gian ngo^`i ddoa'n chu+~ hay kho^ng.
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Re: [Vietlug] VIQR
On Sunday 04 July 2004 11:00, HoangNam wrote:
Em nha^.n ddu+o+.c 2 ca'i mails co' no^.i dung nhu+ sau :
1.
Thu that mot dieu voi Trung -Tron ve la to cung khong biet danh VIQR,
tai vi
nhung nguoi nhan thu deu du thong minh de hieu noi dung ca(me to 58 tuoi
roi ma
van doc duoc day thoi). Tieng Viet thi cho ra tieng Viet, con cai kieu
nhu
VIQR chi
them mat thoi gian doi voi nguoi khong co quen dung thoi(TELEX, VNI thi
to danh duoc day)
2.
Tieng Viet khong dau la mot dung cu de luyen tap tri nao rat tot,
khong viec gi phai viet co dau ca
Ca'c ba'c tha^'y the^' na`o ??
Trong chie^'n di.ch huy ddo^.ng go~ VIQR cu?a em , kho^ng bie^'t bao nhie^u
ngu+o+`i pha?n ddo^'i , cu~ng dda~ ga^y ra bao nhie^u xi'ch mi'ch . Va`
gio+` dda^y ho. no'i cho 1 tra`ng nhu+ the^' dda^'y . hic .
Anh Hu+ng o+i . Em buo^`n qua' huhu . Co' le~ tu+` gio+` ai go~ gi` thi`
ke^. la` ho+n anh nhi? .
Kho^ng bie^'t tre^n nhu+~ng ma'y kha'c thi` sao, rie^ng ma'y to^i chi? co'
the^? go~ tie^'ng Vie^.t co' da^'u dda`ng hoa`ng trong Kmail, OOorg, Kword,
co`n ne^'u ngu+'a tay muo^'n gu+?i mail ba(`ng mutt dde^? ho.c ta^.p thi`
chi.u che^'t kho^ng go~ ddu+o+.c.
Trong tru+o+`ng ho+.p na`y muo^'n minh ba.ch ro~ ra`ng thi` xa`i ddo+~ Viqr
cu~ng ddu+o+.c la('m. Ne^'u muo^'n go~ mo^.t ca^u vi' du.
ca?i ca'ch co`n bu+o+'i ra nhie^`u ca'i lo^.n xo^.n ho+n
ma` go~ kho^ng co' da^'u thi` kinh ngu+o+`i la('m.
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