Re: [VM] Beginner VM questions
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 02:15:50PM -0400, Peter Davis wrote: Ok, on a totally different tack, I currently have mutt setup so I can 1) Fetch my mail from a few different accounts on various POP3 servers, 2) Store it in Maildir format, and 3) Read it with mutt Can I do this with VM? I've found some sites that reference using Maildir as a spool, but I want to use the POP3 servers as the spool, and store it locally in Maildir format. (I think the last time I used VM, about 10 years ago or more, I was storing in MH format.) If there any examples of how to set this up in my .vm file, that would be a huge help. Ok, since this was met with stoney silence, and my searches for using VM with Maildir haven't been too fruitful, how about MH format? I assume VM still supports that, right? I could convert my Maildir folders back to MH (as they were originally). Then I'd be using VM to fetch new mail from POP3 servers and add it to the MH repository, and of course to read, reply, forward, etc. Thanks, -pd P.S. - Apologies again for sending with mutt. My .vm is currently a shambles as I tried getting Maildir working. -- Peter Davis The Tech Curmudgeon - http://www.techcurmudgeon.com
Re: [VM] Beginner VM questions
Peter Davis writes: Ok, since this was met with stoney silence, and my searches for using VM with Maildir haven't been too fruitful, how about MH format? I assume VM still supports that, right? Sorry, Peter. You are out luck. VM doesn't support either mailder or MH format (yet). There is an on-going wishlist item, but I have no idea when we will get to it. The only support VM has for any maildir-like format is that it can define virtual folders over directories. I presume it would look something like this: (setq vm-virtual-folder-alist '( ;; start virtual folder definition (virtual-folder-name ((/path/to/maildir1 /path/to/maildir2) (header foo) ) ) ;; end of virtual folder definition ;; more virtual folders if needed ) ) If this set-up works, you will be able to at least read the maildir folders. I don't think you will be able to operate on them. If you want full inter-operability with your Mutt set-up, I think it won't be possible. I could convert my Maildir folders back to MH (as they were originally). Then I'd be using VM to fetch new mail from POP3 servers and add it to the MH repository, and of course to read, reply, forward, etc. If you are commiting to using VM, then your best bet is to keep VM folders in its native mbox format, and work with Mutt and VM in parallel for a while. Once you are sure you are comfortable with VM, you can convert maildir/MH folders to mbox folders. I think MH has a way of doing it. There is no problem with accessing POP3 servers from VM, or downloading mail from them into VM folders. Cheers, Uday
Re: [VM] Beginner VM questions
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 05:26:17PM +0100, Uday Reddy wrote: Peter Davis writes: Ok, since this was met with stoney silence, and my searches for using VM with Maildir haven't been too fruitful, how about MH format? I assume VM still supports that, right? Sorry, Peter. You are out luck. VM doesn't support either mailder or MH format (yet). There is an on-going wishlist item, but I have no idea when we will get to it. Thanks, Uday. I was pretty sure I was using VM with MH-format folders about 10 or 11 years ago, but that was probably a whole different incarnation of VM. If you are commiting to using VM, then your best bet is to keep VM folders in its native mbox format, and work with Mutt and VM in parallel for a while. Once you are sure you are comfortable with VM, you can convert maildir/MH folders to mbox folders. I think MH has a way of doing it. There is no problem with accessing POP3 servers from VM, or downloading mail from them into VM folders. I was going to try a few different MUAs in parallel, to see the benefits and shortcomings of each. I suppose I could setup VM to fetch POP3 messages without deleting them from the server, right? Then I could have separate mbox and Maildir archives for a while. Thank you! -pd
Re: [VM] Beginner VM questions
On 2012-09-20, Uday Reddy usr.vm.ro...@gmail.com wrote: If you are commiting to using VM, then your best bet is to keep VM folders in its native mbox format, and work with Mutt and VM in parallel for a Urgh. mbox format is totally sick. From-stuffing will screw you whatever you do. mbox format is the most evil Unix legacy not yet exterminated. I recommend mmdf format. (Not ideal, but I've never yet had cause to send a mail including the mmdf delimiter.)
Re: [VM] Setting up VM for the first time - imap to read on the server
It isn't needed. But the VM default for the variable `vm-stunnel-program' is stunnel. So, it is looking for the stunnel program. To avoid stunnel entirely, you should set `vm-stunnel-program' to nil. Then VM will fire up the Emacs 24 SSL functionality. The following chunk would do that automatically. Stefan @@ -675,8 +675,7 @@ -- file)) -(defcustom vm-stunnel-program stunnel +(defcustom vm-stunnel-program + (if (and (fboundp 'gnutls-available-p) (gnutls-available-p)) + nil +stunnel) *Name of program to use to run stunnel. This is used to make SSL connections to POP and IMAP servers that support SSL. If this is set to nil, VM will attempt to use the
