Re: [VM] Email dangers portrayed in media
Hi Uday Sorry about the swearing. I realized, as soon as I sent off my earlier message, that I should have added a warning about it. But, having watched the whole series, I felt that, underneath all that crudity, there was a lot of subtle reality that was portrayed. I am planning to get all the old series from LoveFilm and watch them too. It is not that one should be warned about it. Just that a lot of swearing imo portrays a bad image. Some do swear a lot if they have been brought up with that background. There is certainly a lot of subtle reality there but ruined by the swearing. Another trend that has come up in the last few years is that people can't be bothered to maintain an address book. If they want to send you a message, they go and look for an old message you sent them and do a reply. Now, imagine they copy somebody in, and imagine that they have top-posting turned on by default! The problem with an address book; is that with windows one can get a virus and then send to contacts along with the mbox file being trassed, or if one uses webmail yahoo somehow the same thing can happen. My sister had a Viagra advert sent to all contacts... very embarrassing. I had a similar experience when i used aol but no embarrassment. Gmail UI seems more secure in that respect but their big negative is to hide bottom portion of the message which is why i went back to using an email client again. The point of this thread, however, is not to complain about top-posting, but rather to point out that it is *dangerous*. VM users are not immune from it. If you use vm-reply-include-text a lot, you are doing exactly the same thing that the Outlook-users do, and you might get burnt some day! Yes and sorry i didn't mean to digress. The danger is there particularly since gmail hide the bottom portion of the message. james
Re: [VM] Email dangers portrayed in media
James Freer writes: Gmail UI seems more secure in that respect but their big negative is to hide bottom portion of the message which is why i went back to using an email client again. You mean, when you send a message, you can't see what stuff you are citing? That is even worse than Outlook! But the biggest negative of gmail is of course is that it productizes you. (If you don't pay for a product, you are the product.) Cheers, Uday
Re: [VM] Email dangers portrayed in media
Uday Reddy usr.vm.ro...@gmail.com writes: But the biggest negative of gmail is of course is that it productizes you. (If you don't pay for a product, you are the product.) Gmail's lacks what seems to be the most basic e-mail: you can't get e-mail message out of it uncorrupted: - There is no way to forward a message as an attachment. So you can't have someone join a thread just by forwarding the message to them. - There is no way to save messages to a file. - It insists on formatting certain MIME types, sometimes it does this incorrectly. Incorrect is understandable, since email often is invalid HTML. Not being able to get the unformatted (uncorrupted) message is a dead end. All of this lead to a very stressful few hours once. That said, gmail is a great imap server for VM :-) Mark
Re: [VM] Email dangers portrayed in media
Gmail's lacks what seems to be the most basic e-mail: you can't get e-mail message out of it uncorrupted: - There is no way to forward a message as an attachment. So you can't have someone join a thread just by forwarding the message to them. - There is no way to save messages to a file. I use Alpine and one can save an email as text with/without headers. With the gmail UI one can print to pdf... but i don't think you mean that. I'm switching to VM as soon as xubuntu gets emacs 24 on board. Just joined the VM list in advance. That said, gmail is a great imap server for VM :-) I use it as i was so disappointed with yahoo, aol and others. Gmail does seem to be the best unless one is setting up a mail server. james
