Re: [VM] IMAP-SSL with Exchange Server
As far as I can tell, I’ve implemented all the suggestions received here regarding my problem connecting to Microsoft Exchange Server via imap-ssl from native Windows Emacs 23.1.1 using vm. I’ve upgraded to vm 8.2.0b and convinced Cygwin to accept Windows filename conventions and not complain to vm. But still my password is rejected as “incorrect”. As I’ve said before, my account on Exchange Server is accessible from my iPhone, and my vm setup works fine with Gmail. At this point, would it be appropriate to file a bug on the Launchpad site? I’ve appended my current .vm in case anyone wants to find a flaw I’ve missed: ;; start of .vm (setq vm-imap-account-alist '( (imap-ssl:imap.gmail.com:993:*:login:m...@gmail.com:* Gmail) (imap-ssl:owa.myschool.edu:993:*:login:m...@myschool.edu:* Cornell IMAP) ) ) (setq vm-primary-inbox imap-ssl:owa.myschool.edu:993:inbox:login:m...@myschool.edu:*) (setq vm-reply-subject-prefix Re: ) (setq vm-stunnel-program c:/cygwin/bin/stunnel.exe) ; Debugging only: (setq vm-debug t) (setq vm-imap-keep-trace-buffer t) (setq vm-imap-log-sessions t) ; Stylistic: (setq vm-preview-lines t) ; Show as much of message as possible ; Directories (setq vm-folders-summary-directories '(c:/Mail/)) (setq vm-mime-all-attachments-directory c:/detached/) (setq vm-mime-attachment-save-directory c:/detached/) (setq vm-folder-directory c:/Mail/) (setq vm-temp-file-directory c:/temp/) (setq vm-imap-folder-cache-directory c:/temp/) ; Keys (define-key vm-mail-mode-map \C-c\C-a 'mail-abbrev-insert-alias) ; Rendering (setq vm-mime-text/html-handler nil) ; disable lynx til it's useful ;;; end of .vm /Lew --- Lew Perin / pe...@acm.org http://babelcarp.org
Re: [VM] IMAP-SSL with Exchange Server
Lewis Perin writes: At this point, would it be appropriate to file a bug on the Launchpad site? The best way to file bug reports is to use M-x vm-submit-bug-report. But the bug-report function normally doesn't include private information in your settings, such as logins. So, you might need to add them manually. The only problem you seem to have at the moment is that the login didn't work. So, that is what you need to check. I’ve appended my current .vm in case anyone wants to find a flaw I’ve missed: ;; start of .vm (setq vm-imap-account-alist '( (imap-ssl:imap.gmail.com:993:*:login:m...@gmail.com:* Gmail) (imap-ssl:owa.myschool.edu:993:*:login:m...@myschool.edu:* Cornell IMAP) ) ) The login should be whatever your IMAP server wants you to use. It seems to unlikely that they want you to use something like m...@myschool.edu. You should check the documentation you have been given for your IMAP server. Cheers, Uday
Re: [VM] IMAP-SSL with Exchange Server
Uday Reddy usr.vm.ro...@gmail.com writes: Lewis Perin writes: At this point, would it be appropriate to file a bug on the Launchpad site? The best way to file bug reports is to use M-x vm-submit-bug-report. But the bug-report function normally doesn't include private information in your settings, such as logins. So, you might need to add them manually. The only problem you seem to have at the moment is that the login didn't work. So, that is what you need to check. I’ve appended my current .vm in case anyone wants to find a flaw I’ve missed: ;; start of .vm (setq vm-imap-account-alist '( (imap-ssl:imap.gmail.com:993:*:login:m...@gmail.com:* Gmail) (imap-ssl:owa.myschool.edu:993:*:login:m...@myschool.edu:* Cornell IMAP) ) ) The login should be whatever your IMAP server wants you to use. It seems to unlikely that they want you to use something like m...@myschool.edu. You should check the documentation you have been given for your IMAP server. Sorry, I should have made clear that “m...@myschool.edu” is a de-identified version of the real thing. The actual login in my .vm is the same as the one I use when fetching mail from the same server via my mobile phone. /Lew --- Lew Perin / pe...@acm.org http://babelcarp.org
Re: [VM] IMAP-SSL with Exchange Server
Lewis Perin writes: So, where does it get into trouble? Immediately on login, I get “vm-imap-protocol-error: IMAP protocol error: unexpected char (10)”. Indeed, you said that. But what is in the trace buffer at this point? In particular, is there a line without a CR character (^M)? And, as I noted earlier in this thread, when I tried setting vm-imap-tolerant-of-bad-imap to 1, emacs became unresponsive and eventually exhausted its memory. Evidently, there is a problem with the server interaction. So, setting this flag doesn't help us. Cheers, Uday
Re: [VM] IMAP-SSL with Exchange Server
John Hein jz4rfcq...@snkmail.com writes: Lewis Perin wrote at 10:50 -0400 on Jun 15, 2012: John Hein writes: Uday Reddy wrote at 00:01 +0100 on Jun 15, 2012: Lewis Perin writes: By the way, the trace of my IMAP session does say this before I run into trouble: * OK The Microsoft Exchange IMAP4 service is ready. If it gets this far, then stunnel is unlikely to be the problem. So, where does it get into trouble? You can also skip vm stunnel completely and use command line: openssl s_client -connect your.imapserver.com:993 .. login youra...@yourdom.com yourpassword .. list * Well, that was interesting! The openssl command got me the “* OK The Microsoft Exchange IMAP4 service is ready.” response I expected, but the login request wasn’t even seen as a complete request until I appended the -crlf option to the openssl command as suggested here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8682976/imap-connection-carriage-return-line-feed-issue-from-linux And then the response to the login request was “login BAD Command Error. 12”. Not sure what that means. As I said earlier in the thread, my credentials get accepted by Exchange Server when submitted from my iPhone. I wonder, though, if the -crlf openssl option could be a clue to why vm and Exchange aren’t happy with each other. Is vm sending linefeeds only? Re: login BAD Command... You need _some_ sequence before the word login. Like . login you yourpw or x login you yourpw. When I use login me mypw on my imap server, I get login BAD Error in response. When I use login me (with no password), I get xxx BAD Error. So based on your quoted error message, I'm guessing you negelected to add the leading sentinel string. Yes, that’s exactly right; thanks! But addressing that issue just yields a different error, sadly: .. login m...@myschool.edu mypassword .. NO LOGIN failed. But - I’ve been googling a lot lately - I tried this instead: .. login my-windows-domain\me mypassword and it worked fine. This is strange - as I said earlier, my iPhone gets through to the Exchange server, and it has no idea of what Windows domain claims me. But using the Windows domain doesn’t help me from vm; I still get that “unexpected char (10)” error. And the trace buffer for a session using the Windows domain shows no advance over what I got using a normal email address. /Lew --- Lew Perin / pe...@acm.org http://babelcarp.org
Re: [VM] IMAP-SSL with Exchange Server
Thanks, Uday, for mustering the patience to stick with this annoying and narrow thread. I know you have other things to do! Uday Reddy usr.vm.ro...@gmail.com writes: Lewis Perin writes: cygwin warning: MS-DOS style path detected: c:\temp\vm387560729 Preferred POSIX equivalent is: /cygdrive/c/temp/vm387560729 CYGWIN environment variable option nodosfilewarning turns off this warning. Consult the user’s guide for more details about POSIX paths: http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using.html#using-pathnames So, clearly you need to fix this issue in order to get a clean IMAP session for VM. For some value of “clean”: this is a warning, but is it consequential? I doubt that this is stopping cygwin stunnel from doing its job, as I can get to Gmail using imap-ssl by this route. The file cygwin is complaining about, c:\temp\vm387560729, is the stunnel config generated by vm. I imagine vm uses that locution for the file name because of this line in my vm: (setq vm-temp-file-directory c:/temp/) I coded that because it’s native Windows emacs, not Cygwin emacs, and stunnel is the only Cygwin program I use. I’m leery of using Cygwin filenames in configuring native Windows emacs, to be honest. If it were safe, in this context, to code: (setq vm-temp-file-directory /cygdrive/c/temp/) I’d be delighted to do it. But I don’t think it is. I got this message when I tried it: completion--some: Opening output file: no such file or directory, c:/cygdrive/c/temp/vm075228092 This way, it seems vm isn’t even getting to the stage of invoking stunnel and attempting an imap session. * OK The Microsoft Exchange IMAP4 service is ready.^M * BYE Connection is closed. 13 My guess is that your Exchange server is over-eager to close the connection. I don’t think so. The “* BYE Connection is closed. 13” line appears quite a while after vm complains about the unexpected char. You might want to check what happens when you do this with gmail. See above, please. /Lew --- Lew Perin / pe...@acm.org http://babelcarp.org
Re: [VM] IMAP-SSL with Exchange Server
Lewis Perin writes: cygwin warning: MS-DOS style path detected: c:\temp\vm387560729 Preferred POSIX equivalent is: /cygdrive/c/temp/vm387560729 CYGWIN environment variable option nodosfilewarning turns off this warning. Consult the user’s guide for more details about POSIX paths: http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using.html#using-pathnames So, clearly you need to fix this issue in order to get a clean IMAP session for VM. For some value of “clean”: this is a warning, but is it consequential? The warning message is meant for you, not VM! VM won't know what to do with it. You should create a CYGWIN environment variable with nodosfilewarning as its value, and get rid of the warning message. Windows Emacs will necessarily use Windows path names, which Cygwin doesn't like. But they gave you a work-around. So, please use it. I don't know why it is working for gmail. But it is likely that it is breaking in some more subtle ways. VM is trying to listen to the server and the warning message is interfering with it. Cheers, Uday
Re: [VM] IMAP-SSL with Exchange Server
Hi: Where does vm save the stummel config file? I have a similar but unrelated stunnel problem connecting to gmail. It connects fine when using an emacs 24 snapshot with built in ssl, but fails with emacs 23 stunnel. I'd like to debug my stunnel setup with the vm generated config file. Matthew Vernon writes: What it might be worth doing is snaffling a copy of the stunnel configuration file that VM creates, and running stunnel by hand to check it's managing to connect OK. Matthew -- `O'-0 `O'---. `O'---. `O'---. \___| | \___|0-/ \___|/\___| | | /\ | | \ | |\ | | The Dangers of modern veterinary life -- Les Smithson
Re: [VM] IMAP-SSL with Exchange Server
Lewis Perin pe...@panix.com writes: Uday Reddy usr.vm.ro...@gmail.com writes: Lewis Perin writes: When I submit my password for the (default) inbox, the connection fails immediately with vm-imap-protocol-error: IMAP protocol error: unexpected char (10) Unless you have a working configuration of stunnel, I would suspect it first. If you search vm.info archives on Google Groups you will find earlier discussions of stunnel. Perhaps you can get stunnel to work with some other IMAP server like gmail first to make sure that it works. I just checked against Gmail using imap-ssl, and it works fine with my vm/stunnel setup. Upgrading to VM 8.2.0b might also help, because various improvements have been made since the old release. I can see there have been changes to vm-imap.el lately, so I guess I’ll give it a try. Oh, but wait: I see on Launchpad that 8.1.2 is more recent than 8.2.0b and it’s recommended as an upgrade path from 8.1.1 to 8.2.0. OK... /Lew --- Lew Perin / pe...@acm.org http://babelcarp.org
Re: [VM] IMAP-SSL with Exchange Server
Lewis Perin pe...@panix.com writes: Has anyone reading this had experience connecting vm to a Microsoft Exchange IMAP-SSL server? (Successful experience, I hope!) Yes; stunnel4 and IMAP to Exchange Just Worked; My notes suggest I didn't need the additional-configuration-file option. What it might be worth doing is snaffling a copy of the stunnel configuration file that VM creates, and running stunnel by hand to check it's managing to connect OK. Matthew -- `O'-0 `O'---. `O'---. `O'---. \___| | \___|0-/ \___|/\___| | | /\ | | \ | |\ | | The Dangers of modern veterinary life
