Re: OT: Vi in a browser...
Hi! On Wed, 30 May 2007, Tim Chase wrote: Just stumbled across this link: http://gpl.internetconnection.net/vi/ for a basic implementation of Vi, authored in JavaScript. Sick, sick, sick. So just in case you're on a foreign computer that doesn't have vi/vim installed, and you need a fix, you can get it via the web. :) as for the classic use case of wanting to edit textfields vim-style (longer blog posts come to mind), I usually use MozEx, an extension to FF, which allows to use any editor for such things. It has more features but I don't use any of them. I can definitely recommend it. Especially considering the splendid UI of the ticket system I'm forced to use. Regards, Tobias -- In the future, everyone will be anonymous for 15 minutes.
Re: JSVI: Vi implemented in Javascript
Hi! On Wed, 30 May 2007, A.J.Mechelynck wrote: Kevin Old wrote: Not sure if everyone's seen this, but it's definitely cool and quite accurate. http://ajaxian.com/archives/jsvi-you-love-vi-you-love-javascript-now-you-have-both Hmm... when's the day when Vim will be implemented in Lisp, so if the boss wants everyone to use Emacs, we can obey and still have the look, feel and functionality of Vim? (Not necessarily the speed, though.) Of course, that has already been done. It's called viper: http://www.delorie.com/gnu/docs/emacs/viper.html Viper Is a Package for Emacs Rebels. Nice Backronym, too. Regards, Tobias PS: I don't know if it's pure lisp. But hey, I don't need it :) -- In the future, everyone will be anonymous for 15 minutes.
Re: JSVI: Vi implemented in Javascript
Hi! On Wed, 30 May 2007, A.J.Mechelynck wrote: Tobias Klausmann wrote: Hi! On Wed, 30 May 2007, A.J.Mechelynck wrote: [...] Hmm... when's the day when Vim will be implemented in Lisp, so if the boss wants everyone to use Emacs, we can obey and still have the look, feel and functionality of Vim? (Not necessarily the speed, though.) Of course, that has already been done. It's called viper: http://www.delorie.com/gnu/docs/emacs/viper.html Viper Is a Package for Emacs Rebels. Nice Backronym, too. Regards, Tobias PS: I don't know if it's pure lisp. But hey, I don't need it :) Neither do I know, neither do I need it, and Emacs-script is rumored to be Lisp, but since I don't use Emacs (and never did, except maybe for just a few minutes until I found out it wasn't the editor for me), and never used Lisp either (I just know it uses way too much parentheses for sanity) so I don't rightly know. The one use case I know of was binary-patching UUCP back in the day. Back then, vi barfed on line lengths 255. But emacs was just unusable for an admin!. So there was a small howto on installing viper in emacs in order to patch the UUCP binary. Emacs for line length, viper for usability. That howto even made it into a magazine. Regards, Tobias -- In the future, everyone will be anonymous for 15 minutes.
Re: Why bottom-posting is prefered on Vim Mainling List?
Hi! On Tue, 29 May 2007, Axel Kielhorn wrote: Am 29.05.2007 um 05:00 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Slightly Off-topic, but I'm still wondering why bottom-posting is prefered on Vim Mainling List. As far as I know, most e-mail clients defaults to top-posting (i.e. replied message shows before the original message), So far I have only met one e-mail client that forces the user to top-post. Its use leads to page long full quotes even after a few iterations. Since you top-post, you never see what has already accumulated. Also it encourages lazyness: by not needing to find the spot where one would answer the original poster. If I can't even be bothered to find said spot, why should I trim what's irrelevant? and I personally feel top-posting much much easier to read than bottom-posting. This only works for the One question, one answer type of mails. And even then, I find it very counter-intuitive. Even if there's just one question, one answer, it's order is reversed. One might see that differently in those cultures, where text is written from the bottom up. Not that I'd know of such a culture. Regards, Tobias PS: On another note: how do you (as in y'all) feel about somebody re-arranging your text when quoting you? I guess the simple parts (everything for example gw} does) are okay with just about everyone. But what about the order of points made? -- In the future, everyone will be anonymous for 15 minutes.
Re: GVim Crash
Hi! On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, Andy Wokula wrote: GVim7 (Win32) crashes if I do the following: clean startup :new :tabnew :call winnr(#) happens with or without 219 patches included Same here for the Linux (amd64) console version. Throws a core. If need be I can do a gdb bt and post the results. Regards, Tobias -- Never touch a burning system.
Re: Console Text Display Problem
Hi! On Thu, 01 Mar 2007, Gene Kwiecinski wrote: It's somewhat hard to describe, but when typing the display appears to back up or stop moving, the text color looks kind of inverted, and characters sort of appear twice for a word or so. Backspacing and retying the exact same thing corrects the problem, saving and reopening the file also, it is purely a display problem, but highly irritating as I can't detect typos or read coherently. It happens quite frequently when typing, maybe once every couple lines. http://dgoodwin.dangerouslyinc.com/files/vim-problem.png This is just me typing I've got once. Whoa... seriously weird. Indeed. Sometimes, mismatches in encoding settings with UTF-8 being expected and latin-1 being delivered (or a myriad of three-way mismatches with screen, vim and the terminal) can cause something which looks like a strange case of overstrike (like on printers). This is due to the way UTF-8 and similar multibyte encodings work. I recommend double-checking terminal settings, encoding settings and the like. Also, trying a different method of login (if remote) or a differen terminal might be illuminating. The speed, Xon/Xoff et al mismatches mentioned by Gene hold true, too, of course. If there's a serial line or somesuch involved, I'd check its settings first. Hope this helps, Tobias -- Never touch a burning system.
Re: VimTips - Google Wiki Usefulness
Hi! On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ElWiki.com Free MediaWiki hosting with fast setup. A free .com/net/org domain is offered for wikis which reach 10 pages of content. Google AdSense text-ads may be added to the right sidebar to cover hosting expenses. From: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wiki_Science:How_to_start_a_Wiki Yakov I just checked the ElWiki.com. It sound really nice in the sense that it's completely free. However, checking the terms, some made me think if it is what a Vim community should agree with (I quote from http://elwiki.com/register.php): [...] So this means that they can stop the wiki without further question or make it not free anymore, and therefore, what would become of the contents of the wiki? I also believe that mediawiki would be a good solution but I agree with Antoine when he says: the problem would be a free hosting. I'd say having a dedicated machine at a co-lo would be best. If need be, I can ask around if our company would be willing to host for free. Regards, Tobias -- Never touch a burning system.
