Re: --with-features=TYPE

2006-08-15 Thread Robert Hicks

A.J.Mechelynck wrote:

Robert Hicks wrote:

Georg Dahn wrote:

Hi!

--- Robert Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I see in the configure file that --with-features takes tiny, small, 
normal, big or huge (default: normal).


Is there some place I can look to see what those options provide?


Try

:h :version

Best wishes,
Georg



Cool, exactly what I was looking for.  : )

Robert





Basically:
- the tiny version has nothing that can be omitted -- not even online 
help, visual mode, or expression evaluation;
- the small version has visual mode and split windows (and online 
help) but it still lacks expression evaluation;
- the normal version has a lot more, but it still lacks some important 
(to me) features, including support for multi-byte encodings (such as 
Chinese or Unicode) and for right-to-left writing systems (such as 
Hebrew, Arabic or Farsi);

- the big version has everything except the profiling feature;
- the huge version has it all.
- There are still some features (such as MzScheme, Perl, Python, Tcl, 
and, on X11 systems, GNOME, which requires a GTK+ GUI) which have to be 
included manually.


I would recommend to stay away from the tiny and small versions, 
unless you're running on a system with very limited memory like 16-bit 
Dos. Personally, since I like the big all-bells-and-whistles package, I 
source (not run) the following bash script just before running make:


-8-
#!/bin/bash
#
# this file must be sourced, not run
#
# set environment variables
export CONF_OPT_GUI='--enable-gnome-check'
export CONF_OPT_PERL='--enable-perlinterp'
export CONF_OPT_PYTHON='--enable-pythoninterp'
export CONF_OPT_TCL='--enable-tclinterp --with-tcl=tclsh8.4'
export CONF_OPT_RUBY='--enable-rubyinterp'
export CONF_OPT_MZSCHEME='--enable-mzschemeinterp'
export CONF_OPT_CSCOPE='--enable-cscope'
export CONF_OPT_MULTIBYTE='--enable-multibyte'
export CONF_OPT_OUTPUT='--enable-fontset'
export CONF_OPT_FEAT='--with-features=huge'
export CONF_OPT_COMPBY='[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
-8-

(if your browser, or mine, beautified the last line by breaking it 
between export and CONF_OPT_COMPBY, well, it shouldn't have.)
You can use this script, changing anything you want, including of course 
at least the compiled-by line. If you lack the development packages 
required for one or other of the configured-in options, configure will 
turn it off.





A couple of questions if I may...

#1 How do I source? I have never done that prior to a make before...

#2 If I do this:

export CONF_OPT_TCL='--enable-tclinterp --with-tcl=tclsh8.4'

do I have to pass anything else to point it to libs or anything? I have 
ActiveTcl installed on my HP/UX boxes.


#3 If you are passing:

export CONF_OPT_FEAT='--with-features=huge'

and the huge version has it all why pass the multibyte, etc.?

:Robert



Re: --with-features=TYPE

2006-08-15 Thread Charles E Campbell Jr

Robert Hicks wrote:

I see in the configure file that --with-features takes tiny, small, 
normal, big or huge (default: normal).


Is there some place I can look to see what those options provide?


Perhaps my webpage:  http://mysite.verizon.net/astronaut/vim/vimfeat.html

will be of help.

Regards,
Chip Campbell



Re: --with-features=TYPE

2006-08-15 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

Robert Hicks wrote:

A.J.Mechelynck wrote:

Robert Hicks wrote:

Georg Dahn wrote:

Hi!

--- Robert Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I see in the configure file that --with-features takes tiny, 
small, normal, big or huge (default: normal).


Is there some place I can look to see what those options provide?


Try

:h :version

Best wishes,
Georg



Cool, exactly what I was looking for.  : )

Robert





Basically:
- the tiny version has nothing that can be omitted -- not even 
online help, visual mode, or expression evaluation;
- the small version has visual mode and split windows (and online 
help) but it still lacks expression evaluation;
- the normal version has a lot more, but it still lacks some 
important (to me) features, including support for multi-byte encodings 
(such as Chinese or Unicode) and for right-to-left writing systems 
(such as Hebrew, Arabic or Farsi);

- the big version has everything except the profiling feature;
- the huge version has it all.
- There are still some features (such as MzScheme, Perl, Python, Tcl, 
and, on X11 systems, GNOME, which requires a GTK+ GUI) which have to 
be included manually.


I would recommend to stay away from the tiny and small versions, 
unless you're running on a system with very limited memory like 16-bit 
Dos. Personally, since I like the big all-bells-and-whistles package, 
I source (not run) the following bash script just before running make:


-8-
#!/bin/bash
#
# this file must be sourced, not run
#
# set environment variables
export CONF_OPT_GUI='--enable-gnome-check'
export CONF_OPT_PERL='--enable-perlinterp'
export CONF_OPT_PYTHON='--enable-pythoninterp'
export CONF_OPT_TCL='--enable-tclinterp --with-tcl=tclsh8.4'
export CONF_OPT_RUBY='--enable-rubyinterp'
export CONF_OPT_MZSCHEME='--enable-mzschemeinterp'
export CONF_OPT_CSCOPE='--enable-cscope'
export CONF_OPT_MULTIBYTE='--enable-multibyte'
export CONF_OPT_OUTPUT='--enable-fontset'
export CONF_OPT_FEAT='--with-features=huge'
export CONF_OPT_COMPBY='[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
-8-

(if your browser, or mine, beautified the last line by breaking it 
between export and CONF_OPT_COMPBY, well, it shouldn't have.)
You can use this script, changing anything you want, including of 
course at least the compiled-by line. If you lack the development 
packages required for one or other of the configured-in options, 
configure will turn it off.





A couple of questions if I may...

#1 How do I source? I have never done that prior to a make before...


In bash:

source myconfig

or

. myconfig

(assuming that you've copied the script as myconfig in the top 
directory of your build hierarchy, which has src/ runtime/ etc. 
subdirectories, and that you have made that directory current). Doing 
just myconfig won't work, because bash will run it in a temporary 
environment and restore the environment afterwards. It may sound strange 
but I've tried.


The advantage of this approach (setting environment variables) is that 
you don't need to make _any_ change in the Makefile, and yet make will 
invoke configure with _your_ preferred settings.




#2 If I do this:

export CONF_OPT_TCL='--enable-tclinterp --with-tcl=tclsh8.4'

do I have to pass anything else to point it to libs or anything? I have 
ActiveTcl installed on my HP/UX boxes.


You pass he TCL version as above; if your distribution of TCL is 
properly installed, configure (run by make the first time, or 
whenever you run make reconfig in the src/ directory) will find it and 
make will set up the compiler and linker command-lines to include the 
proper header files and libraries. For perl, python, etc. you don't even 
need to pass the interpreter version. If your TCL distribution is _not_ 
properly installed, or if you _don't_ have the tcl-devel package (or 
whatever it is called on your flavour of Linux), configure will exclude 
it and you'll end up with -tcl in the :version listing of your Vim 
executable, regardless of the presence of --enable-tclinterp




#3 If you are passing:

export CONF_OPT_FEAT='--with-features=huge'

and the huge version has it all why pass the multibyte, etc.?


At the moment I wrote this script, it wasn't clear to me that 
multibyte and cscope didn't need to be included manually. Also, if 
you want to *exclude* them, the presence of these lines makes it obvious 
that, e.g., to exclude +multi_byte (I don't recommend it, but it's your 
funeral not mine) you export CONF_OPT_MULTIBYTE='--disable-multibyte'. 
The five interpreted languages, the GNOME interface, and of course the 
compiled by line, *must* be configured manually, or they won't be 
included, not even in a Huge version. As for the fontset feature 
(+xfontset), :help +feature-list says that it is system-dependent, 
and it seems that my system hasn't got what it takes, since my Vim 
executable ends up with -xfontset.




:Robert





Best regards,
Tony.


Re: --with-features=TYPE

2006-08-14 Thread Yakov Lerner

On 8/14/06, Robert Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I see in the configure file that --with-features takes tiny, small,
normal, big or huge (default: normal).

Is there some place I can look to see what those options provide?


The answer is in file features.h, search for FEAT_HUGE, but it's not
concentrated in a single place and it's scattered all around the
features.h file and it's in fact difficult to track down.

For a simple answer as to what FEAT_HUGE entails, here is :version
from the vim7 which was built with --with-features=huge and no
other config additions. As you see, it includes GUI, and eval, and almost
everything, except interpreters (-tcl -perl and -python -ruby). BTW I would
prefer :version to print +features first, and then -features in
separate paragraph,
separately.

Huge version with GTK2 GUI.  Features included (+) or not (-):
+arabic +autocmd +balloon_eval +browse ++builtin_terms +byte_offset +cindent
+clientserver +clipboard +cmdline_compl +cmdline_hist +cmdline_info
+comments +cryptv
+cscope +cursorshape +dialog_con_gui +diff +digraphs +dnd -ebcdic
+emacs_tags +eval
+ex_extra +extra_search +farsi +file_in_path +find_in_path +folding
-footer +fork()
+gettext -hangul_input +iconv +insert_expand +jumplist +keymap +langmap +libcall
+linebreak +lispindent +listcmds +localmap +menu +mksession +modify_fname +mouse
+mouseshape +mouse_dec +mouse_gpm -mouse_jsbterm +mouse_netterm
+mouse_xterm +multi_byte
+multi_lang -mzscheme +netbeans_intg -osfiletype +path_extra -perl
+postscript +printer
+profile -python +quickfix +reltime +rightleft -ruby +scrollbind
+signs +smartindent
-sniff +statusline -sun_workshop +syntax +tag_binary +tag_old_static
-tag_any_white -tcl
+terminfo +termresponse +textobjects +title +toolbar +user_commands +vertsplit
+virtualedit +visual +visualextra +viminfo +vreplace +wildignore
+wildmenu +windows
+writebackup +X11 -xfontset +xim +xsmp_interact +xterm_clipboard -xterm_save

Yakov


Re: --with-features=TYPE

2006-08-14 Thread A.J.Mechelynck

Robert Hicks wrote:

Georg Dahn wrote:

Hi!

--- Robert Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I see in the configure file that --with-features takes tiny, small, 
normal, big or huge (default: normal).


Is there some place I can look to see what those options provide?


Try

:h :version

Best wishes,
Georg



Cool, exactly what I was looking for.  : )

Robert





Basically:
- the tiny version has nothing that can be omitted -- not even online 
help, visual mode, or expression evaluation;
- the small version has visual mode and split windows (and online 
help) but it still lacks expression evaluation;
- the normal version has a lot more, but it still lacks some important 
(to me) features, including support for multi-byte encodings (such as 
Chinese or Unicode) and for right-to-left writing systems (such as 
Hebrew, Arabic or Farsi);

- the big version has everything except the profiling feature;
- the huge version has it all.
- There are still some features (such as MzScheme, Perl, Python, Tcl, 
and, on X11 systems, GNOME, which requires a GTK+ GUI) which have to be 
included manually.


I would recommend to stay away from the tiny and small versions, 
unless you're running on a system with very limited memory like 16-bit 
Dos. Personally, since I like the big all-bells-and-whistles package, I 
source (not run) the following bash script just before running make:


-8-
#!/bin/bash
#
# this file must be sourced, not run
#
# set environment variables
export CONF_OPT_GUI='--enable-gnome-check'
export CONF_OPT_PERL='--enable-perlinterp'
export CONF_OPT_PYTHON='--enable-pythoninterp'
export CONF_OPT_TCL='--enable-tclinterp --with-tcl=tclsh8.4'
export CONF_OPT_RUBY='--enable-rubyinterp'
export CONF_OPT_MZSCHEME='--enable-mzschemeinterp'
export CONF_OPT_CSCOPE='--enable-cscope'
export CONF_OPT_MULTIBYTE='--enable-multibyte'
export CONF_OPT_OUTPUT='--enable-fontset'
export CONF_OPT_FEAT='--with-features=huge'
export CONF_OPT_COMPBY='[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
-8-

(if your browser, or mine, beautified the last line by breaking it 
between export and CONF_OPT_COMPBY, well, it shouldn't have.)
You can use this script, changing anything you want, including of course 
at least the compiled-by line. If you lack the development packages 
required for one or other of the configured-in options, configure will 
turn it off.



Best regards,
Tony.