Re: gvim cut paste selection
Ujjal, Although it fixed the problem (or perhaps only masked it, as the underlying problem is with Cygwin X), the patch I submitted to Vim was rejected. Bram maintained that since the bug pertained to Cygwin XWindows, so should the fix. I actually did not disagree with him on this point. The reason I had started with Vim rather than XWindows was that I was more familiar with Vim's source code. However, since Bram refused to incorporate the patch, I proceeded to post to the XWindows list. It was suggested that I write a patch and submit it. I wrote a patch, and Colin Harrison (who was more familiar with the patch submission process) tested the patch and submitted it to the Bugzilla bug tracking database. I also tested on my own PC running Cygwin X and gVim compiled from unix sources. Months after patch submission, the patch was accepted and the issue changed to FIXED / RESOLVED. I have not yet checked to see whether the patch has actually been rolled into the most recently released version of XWin. You can see a full description of the bug and how I fixed it by reading the thread below. Also, I've included the link to the Bugzilla submission page, so you can obtain and apply the Xwin patch if you like. Alternatively, you could obtain and apply the Vim patch, but since it's not likely ever to find its way into Vim (and really is kind of a kludge anyways), I'd recommend the former approach... Hope this helps, Brett Stahlman Thread subject: Serious flaw in Cygwin X clipboard integration prevents paste from X to Windows app http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2006-01/msg00030.html Bugzilla entry 5375: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5735 - Original Message - From: Ujjal Bose To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 3:16 AM Subject: Fwd: gvim cut paste selection Hi, I saw ur patch that you have posted to the URL mentioned below. So will the same patch work for a unix vim or is it only for Win32 ? As you can see from the thread below that I am also facing similar problems , but from Unix Gvim Windows Apps. Thanks, Ujjal Forwarded Conversation Subject: gvim cut paste selection From: Ujjal Bose [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vim@vim.org Date: Sat, Nov 4, 2006 at 9:30 PM Hi , I was having problem with cut-paste selections from X - Windows for gvim (6.2) , and this is the reply I got from the RealVNC team . So is there a way to solve this in gvim ? Thanks in advance ! -Ujjal -- Forwarded message -- From: James Weatherall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Nov 3, 2006 9:59 PM Subject: RE: Xvnc cut paste problem To: Ujjal Bose [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Ujjal, It sounds like gvim doesn't set the timestamp on the X selection correctly when it sets it, so vncconfig doesn't think it's changed. Selecting text in another X application, then selecting the desired text in gvim should cause vncconfig to see the selection ownership change and to then send the gvim text to the viewer. Cheers, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Ujjal Bose Sent: 01 November 2006 19:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Xvnc cut paste problem For the laste few days my cut paste selections from Unix-Windows is not working properly but Windows-Unix works perfectly. I was using autocutsel to enable cut-paste between various X11 selections, and also had a line for vncconfig -nowin -iconic in my VNC xstartup file but nothing seems to help. 0) I am using Xvnc 4.2.1 server in my Linux m/c and TightVNC viewer on Windows XP side. 1) A Copy selection from a unix application (gvim) seems to work intermittently. 2) If I do a mouse based visual selection (also called PRIMARY selection in X11) from my gvim windows , and paste it in Windows notepad, only a partial paste happens for the first time, and then onwards , the same stuff is pasted over and over again, in spite of selecting some other text in gvim. 3) Pasting from xterm-Notepad(Windows) seems to work correctly. 4) I even started a new VNC session on another Linux m/c (same xstartup file) but didnt help. 5) Another thing I observed : from gvim , irrespective of my selection method (copy or mouse based) , the paste in Notepad seems to work only (partially in case of mouse selection and fully in case of Copy) for the first time. If I select something else now and then try to paste , the last stuff only gets pasted. BUT IF I COPY BACK SOME TEXT FROM WINDOWS-UNIX and then try again , IT WORKS FOR THE NEW SELECTION , but again , only for once, till I repeat the process. 6) Again, pasting from xterm always works perfectly. Any help appreciated. -Ujjal # My xstartup file vncconfig -nowin if ($OSTYPE == Linux) then # Linux xrdb $HOME/.Xresources \xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title $VNCDESKTOP Desktop #/usr/bin/gnome-session #/usr/bin/startkde #fvwm2 /home
Re: gvim cut paste selection
On 11/8/06, Stahlman Family [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ujjal, Although it fixed the problem (or perhaps only masked it, as the underlying problem is with Cygwin X), the patch I submitted to Vim was rejected. Bram maintained that since the bug pertained to Cygwin XWindows, so should the fix. I actually did not disagree with him on this point. The reason I had started with Vim rather than XWindows was that I was more familiar with Vim's source code. However, since Bram refused to incorporate the patch, I proceeded to post to the XWindows list. It was suggested that I write a patch and submit it. I wrote a patch, and Colin Harrison (who was more familiar with the patch submission process) tested the patch and submitted it to the Bugzilla bug tracking database. I also tested on my own PC running Cygwin X and gVim compiled from unix sources. Months after patch submission, the patch was accepted and the issue changed to FIXED / RESOLVED. I have not yet checked to see whether the patch has actually been rolled into the most recently released version of XWin. You can see a full description of the bug and how I fixed it by reading the thread below. Also, I've included the link to the Bugzilla submission page, so you can obtain and apply the Xwin patch if you like. Alternatively, you could obtain and apply the Vim patch, but since it's not likely ever to find its way into Vim (and really is kind of a kludge anyways), I'd recommend the former approach... Hope this helps, Brett Stahlman Thread subject: Serious flaw in Cygwin X clipboard integration prevents paste from X to Windows app http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2006-01/msg00030.html Bugzilla entry 5375: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5735 - Original Message - From: Ujjal Bose To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 3:16 AM Subject: Fwd: gvim cut paste selection Hi, I saw ur patch that you have posted to the URL mentioned below. So will the same patch work for a unix vim or is it only for Win32 ? As you can see from the thread below that I am also facing similar problems , but from Unix Gvim Windows Apps. Thanks, Ujjal Hi Brett, I tested your vim patch on my machine and its working for me in Unix, after removing the ifdef WIN32 macros from the patch. Now cut/paste across gvim (unix) -- Windows apps is perfect ! As noted earlier by Brett, this may not be the best approach, but it pretty much solves my problem :) Thanks to Brett and Yakov ! -Ujjal
Re: gvim cut paste selection
On 11/5/06, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ujjal Bose wrote: I was having problem with cut-paste selections from X - Windows for gvim (6.2) , and this is the reply I got from the RealVNC team . So is there a way to solve this in gvim ? Thanks in advance ! -Ujjal -- Forwarded message -- From: James Weatherall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Nov 3, 2006 9:59 PM Subject: RE: Xvnc cut paste problem To: Ujjal Bose [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Ujjal, It sounds like gvim doesn't set the timestamp on the X selection correctly when it sets it, so vncconfig doesn't think it's changed. Selecting text in another X application, then selecting the desired text in gvim should cause vncconfig to see the selection ownership change and to then send the gvim text to the viewer. Cheers, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. This is a known problem that nobody has found a solution for yet. The Time type is some special kind of timestamp. I don't even know how to get the timestamp for now. That's why CurrentTime is used. Getting the timestamp from an event (e.g. a mouse click) is not always possible (e.g., in an xterm we don't get it) and certainly difficult to pass all the way from the input to the selection. Problem with Xvnc is that they stick to the specification instead of to what applications do in practice. Bram, I know how to fill the correct non-0 time in own_selection() for xterm clipbpard and for Xt gui (we need to generate dummy self-NotifyEvent to get timestamp). I did not know how to do it for gtk, but looks like Brett have the solution for gtk. What do you say about adding option xcliptime with values 0=use 0L timestamp, 1=fill non-0 timestamp ? It might be even possible to auto-guess whether server supports 0L timestamp in OwnSelection (can be xcliptime==2). Yakov
Re: gvim cut paste selection
Yakov Lerner wrote: On 11/5/06, Bram Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ujjal Bose wrote: I was having problem with cut-paste selections from X - Windows for gvim (6.2) , and this is the reply I got from the RealVNC team . So is there a way to solve this in gvim ? Thanks in advance ! -Ujjal -- Forwarded message -- From: James Weatherall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Nov 3, 2006 9:59 PM Subject: RE: Xvnc cut paste problem To: Ujjal Bose [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Ujjal, It sounds like gvim doesn't set the timestamp on the X selection correctly when it sets it, so vncconfig doesn't think it's changed. Selecting text in another X application, then selecting the desired text in gvim should cause vncconfig to see the selection ownership change and to then send the gvim text to the viewer. Cheers, Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. This is a known problem that nobody has found a solution for yet. The Time type is some special kind of timestamp. I don't even know how to get the timestamp for now. That's why CurrentTime is used. Getting the timestamp from an event (e.g. a mouse click) is not always possible (e.g., in an xterm we don't get it) and certainly difficult to pass all the way from the input to the selection. Problem with Xvnc is that they stick to the specification instead of to what applications do in practice. Bram, I know how to fill the correct non-0 time in own_selection() for xterm clipbpard and for Xt gui (we need to generate dummy self-NotifyEvent to get timestamp). I did not know how to do it for gtk, but looks like Brett have the solution for gtk. What do you say about adding option xcliptime with values 0=use 0L timestamp, 1=fill non-0 timestamp ? It might be even possible to auto-guess whether server supports 0L timestamp in OwnSelection (can be xcliptime==2). I don't like using an option for something that is actually something system-dependent. It's like telling the user we are incapable to figure it out so he has to do all the work to figure out how it should work himself. As mentioned before, using CurrentTime for the timestamp, as we do now, should work anyway. -- If Microsoft would build a car... ... Occasionally your car would die on the freeway for no reason. You would have to pull over to the side of the road, close all of the car windows, shut it off, restart it, and reopen the windows before you could continue. For some reason you would simply accept this. /// Bram Moolenaar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.Moolenaar.net \\\ ///sponsor Vim, vote for features -- http://www.Vim.org/sponsor/ \\\ \\\download, build and distribute -- http://www.A-A-P.org/// \\\help me help AIDS victims -- http://ICCF-Holland.org///
Re: gvim cut paste selection
- Original Message - From: Ujjal Bose [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vim@vim.org Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:19 PM Subject: Re: gvim cut paste selection On 11/8/06, Stahlman Family [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ujjal, Although it fixed the problem (or perhaps only masked it, as the underlying problem is with Cygwin X), the patch I submitted to Vim was rejected. Bram maintained that since the bug pertained to Cygwin XWindows, so should the fix. I actually did not disagree with him on this point. The reason I had started with Vim rather than XWindows was that I was more familiar with Vim's source code. However, since Bram refused to incorporate the patch, I proceeded to post to the XWindows list. It was suggested that I write a patch and submit it. I wrote a patch, and Colin Harrison (who was more familiar with the patch submission process) tested the patch and submitted it to the Bugzilla bug tracking database. I also tested on my own PC running Cygwin X and gVim compiled from unix sources. Months after patch submission, the patch was accepted and the issue changed to FIXED / RESOLVED. I have not yet checked to see whether the patch has actually been rolled into the most recently released version of XWin. You can see a full description of the bug and how I fixed it by reading the thread below. Also, I've included the link to the Bugzilla submission page, so you can obtain and apply the Xwin patch if you like. Alternatively, you could obtain and apply the Vim patch, but since it's not likely ever to find its way into Vim (and really is kind of a kludge anyways), I'd recommend the former approach... Hope this helps, Brett Stahlman Thread subject: Serious flaw in Cygwin X clipboard integration prevents paste from X to Windows app http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2006-01/msg00030.html Bugzilla entry 5375: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5735 - Original Message - From: Ujjal Bose To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 3:16 AM Subject: Fwd: gvim cut paste selection Hi, I saw ur patch that you have posted to the URL mentioned below. So will the same patch work for a unix vim or is it only for Win32 ? As you can see from the thread below that I am also facing similar problems , but from Unix Gvim Windows Apps. Thanks, Ujjal Hi Brett, I tested your vim patch on my machine and its working for me in Unix, after removing the ifdef WIN32 macros from the patch. Now cut/paste across gvim (unix) -- Windows apps is perfect ! As noted earlier by Brett, this may not be the best approach, but it pretty much solves my problem :) Ujjal, I'm glad you got it working. Although the XWin patch is probably the ideal solution, building Vim is probably easier than building XWin, and a working non-ideal solution is always better than none at all. However, I am meaning to download the latest XWin source distribution to see whether my patch is in it yet. When I see that it is, I'll notify the list, since there are probably other Vim users who have been affected by this... Brett Stahlman Thanks to Brett and Yakov ! -Ujjal
Re: gvim cut paste selection
On 11/4/06, Ujjal Bose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was having problem with cut-paste selections from X - Windows for gvim (6.2) , and this is the reply I got from the RealVNC team . So is there a way to solve this in gvim ? I found the patch someone made for very similar problem: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.editors.vim/38505 I wonder whether this patch also fixes your problem with vnc if you replace '#ifdef WIN32UNIX' in the patch to just '#if 1' ? Yakov
