Re: Using py commands to evaluate text for balloon commands..

2006-05-24 Thread Yakov Lerner

On 5/24/06, Mohsin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am trying to use the  ':py' interface to evaluate text under cursor and show
the result in a balloon text.  I got the python and vim code to work easily,
however I have problem communicating between the two (py and vim):

1. How do I access vim variables in py commands
   (like text under cursor, all the 'let variables', 'set options')?

This is easy, see below


2. In the Balloon vim function, how do I access py variables.
Note that I am not  happy with just printing the py result on the
message line -
I want the py output (ot data structures
in a vim variable to display it in a balloon.

Note that :py commands are not available in the sandbox.
I dont know whether Balloon function is executed in the
sandbox. Maybe it is not (then :py is available in the Balloon func),
maybe it is (then :py is not available in the Balloon func). If you
find out, I'm interested to hear your result.


To access vim variables in py commands
(like text under cursor, all the 'let variables', 'set options'):
Try along these lines:

let vimstringvar=mystring
let numericvar=123
:exe :py pythonvar=.numericvarwe got vim numericvar
into pythonvar
:exe :py pythonvar='.vimstringvar.'we got vim string var into pythonvar
 similarly for options. nb difference needed between string vs numeric
:exe :py pythonvar=.readonly   we got numeric vim option
into pythonvar
:exe :py pythonvar='.runtmepath.' we got string vim option
into pythonvar

NB if rhs string contains apostrophe, then additional care is needed.

THis is what comes to mind. Maybe more direct method exists.
I don't know.

Yakov


RE: set readonly - strange?

2006-05-24 Thread Zdenek Sekera
 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 23 May 2006 18:12
 To: Yakov Lerner
 Cc: Zdenek Sekera; vim-dev@vim.org
 Subject: Re: set readonly - strange?
 
 As far as I can tell, there are several instances where there are
 transitory buffers as vim is starting, opening a new tab, probably
 some in closing op.s.
 

That may be true, but...

 I don't know if I used the right word by saying the buffer is
 undefined, but I don't think it it's guaranteed to be usable until a
 certain point, which is after -u, and at the first file loaded, i.e.
 -c
 
 If you open a buffer explicitly from inside .vimtest , then that's a
 different story.
 

In my test case, buffer must exist, I am well passed the '-u ...'
phase because I can *see* the buffer when I do :set readable?'.
I think Yakov's test case is saying even more.

 It's kinda bug-ish, but it's not a bug unless it's contrary to stated
 behavior.  It'll be interesting to see how Bram addresses it.
 

I also think it is bug.

---Zdenek

 On 5/23/06, Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On 5/23/06, Zdenek Sekera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
create a file ~/.vimtest as follows:
   
cat  .vimtest
set nocompatible
set readonly
C-D
   
and execute (g)vim:
   
vim .vimtest -u .vimtest
   
try :set readonly? and you'll get 'noreadonly'.
 
  The buffer does exist when initfile is executed. The ':ls' 
 in initfile shows it.
  Adding more printouts to initfile shows interesting results:
 
  vim -u 1 1
  - file called 1 ---
  set nocompatible
  ls
  call input('before set readonly 111')
  set readonly
  set readonly?
  ls
  set readonly?
  set readonly?
  echo readonly=.readonly
  call input('after set readonly 222')
  -
  In vim, ':verb set readonly?' shows that readonly is 
 misteriously reset.
  The output differs between vim6 and vim7.
  --- vim7 output --
1 %1line 1
  before set readonly 111
1 % =  1line 1
 
 
  readonly=1
  after set readonly 222
  
  Note the missing output of ':set readonly?'!!! It prints neither
  'readonly' nor 'noreadonly'.
  - vim6 output 
 
1 %1line 1
  before set readonly 111
   before set readonly 111
1 % =  1line 1
readonly
readonly
  readonly=1
  after set readonly 222
  -
 
  Looks like a bug to me.
 
  Yakov
 
 


Re: set readonly - strange?

2006-05-24 Thread Eric Arnold

On 5/24/06, Zdenek Sekera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 23 May 2006 18:12
 To: Yakov Lerner
 Cc: Zdenek Sekera; vim-dev@vim.org
 Subject: Re: set readonly - strange?

 As far as I can tell, there are several instances where there are
 transitory buffers as vim is starting, opening a new tab, probably
 some in closing op.s.


That may be true, but...

 I don't know if I used the right word by saying the buffer is
 undefined, but I don't think it it's guaranteed to be usable until a
 certain point, which is after -u, and at the first file loaded, i.e.
 -c

 If you open a buffer explicitly from inside .vimtest , then that's a
 different story.


In my test case, buffer must exist, I am well passed the '-u ...'
phase because I can *see* the buffer when I do :set readable?'.
I think Yakov's test case is saying even more.


It's not clear that the buffer exists when the   :set ro  command is
read according to the -u option, though it might exist in some form
since no error occurs.  Even if a buffer does exist at that time, I'm
fairly sure that is was transitory, and that it's not the same buffer
that you actually see and type  :set ro?  at.

Secondly, you need to be past the -c or similar stage, where it states
that files have been loaded.  It doesn't say that for -u.

You *are* past the loading state when you type  :set ro?  , but that's
not the same as when the -u file is processed.


 It's kinda bug-ish, but it's not a bug unless it's contrary to stated
 behavior.  It'll be interesting to see how Bram addresses it.


I also think it is bug.

---Zdenek

 On 5/23/06, Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On 5/23/06, Zdenek Sekera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
create a file ~/.vimtest as follows:
   
cat  .vimtest
set nocompatible
set readonly
C-D
   
and execute (g)vim:
   
vim .vimtest -u .vimtest
   
try :set readonly? and you'll get 'noreadonly'.
 
  The buffer does exist when initfile is executed. The ':ls'
 in initfile shows it.
  Adding more printouts to initfile shows interesting results:
 
  vim -u 1 1
  - file called 1 ---
  set nocompatible
  ls
  call input('before set readonly 111')
  set readonly
  set readonly?
  ls
  set readonly?
  set readonly?
  echo readonly=.readonly
  call input('after set readonly 222')
  -
  In vim, ':verb set readonly?' shows that readonly is
 misteriously reset.
  The output differs between vim6 and vim7.
  --- vim7 output --
1 %1line 1
  before set readonly 111
1 % =  1line 1
 
 
  readonly=1
  after set readonly 222
  
  Note the missing output of ':set readonly?'!!! It prints neither
  'readonly' nor 'noreadonly'.
  - vim6 output 
 
1 %1line 1
  before set readonly 111
   before set readonly 111
1 % =  1line 1
readonly
readonly
  readonly=1
  after set readonly 222
  -
 
  Looks like a bug to me.
 
  Yakov
 




RE: set readonly - strange?

2006-05-24 Thread Zdenek Sekera
 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 24 May 2006 11:21
 To: Zdenek Sekera
 Cc: Yakov Lerner; vim-dev@vim.org
 Subject: Re: set readonly - strange?
 
 On 5/24/06, Zdenek Sekera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   -Original Message-
   From: Eric Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 23 May 2006 18:12
   To: Yakov Lerner
   Cc: Zdenek Sekera; vim-dev@vim.org
   Subject: Re: set readonly - strange?
  
   As far as I can tell, there are several instances where there are
   transitory buffers as vim is starting, opening a new tab, probably
   some in closing op.s.
  
 
  That may be true, but...
 
   I don't know if I used the right word by saying the buffer is
   undefined, but I don't think it it's guaranteed to be 
 usable until a
   certain point, which is after -u, and at the first file 
 loaded, i.e.
   -c
  
   If you open a buffer explicitly from inside .vimtest , 
 then that's a
   different story.
  
 
  In my test case, buffer must exist, I am well passed the '-u ...'
  phase because I can *see* the buffer when I do :set readable?'.
  I think Yakov's test case is saying even more.
 
 It's not clear that the buffer exists when the   :set ro  command is
 read according to the -u option, though it might exist in some form
 since no error occurs.  Even if a buffer does exist at that time, I'm
 fairly sure that is was transitory, and that it's not the same buffer
 that you actually see and type  :set ro?  at.
 
 Secondly, you need to be past the -c or similar stage, where it states
 that files have been loaded.  It doesn't say that for -u.
 
 You *are* past the loading state when you type  :set ro?  , but that's
 not the same as when the -u file is processed.
 

I don't know to that depth as you do, but then we should
agree that 'set readonly' in .vimrc is useless, because
it would never work, right?
This is hard to accept. So it looks more and more just as a bug.

---Zdenek

   It's kinda bug-ish, but it's not a bug unless it's 
 contrary to stated
   behavior.  It'll be interesting to see how Bram addresses it.
  
 
  I also think it is bug.
 
  ---Zdenek
 
   On 5/23/06, Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 5/23/06, Zdenek Sekera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  create a file ~/.vimtest as follows:
 
  cat  .vimtest
  set nocompatible
  set readonly
  C-D
 
  and execute (g)vim:
 
  vim .vimtest -u .vimtest
 
  try :set readonly? and you'll get 'noreadonly'.
   
The buffer does exist when initfile is executed. The ':ls'
   in initfile shows it.
Adding more printouts to initfile shows interesting results:
   
vim -u 1 1
- file called 1 ---
set nocompatible
ls
call input('before set readonly 111')
set readonly
set readonly?
ls
set readonly?
set readonly?
echo readonly=.readonly
call input('after set readonly 222')
-
In vim, ':verb set readonly?' shows that readonly is
   misteriously reset.
The output differs between vim6 and vim7.
--- vim7 output --
  1 %1line 1
before set readonly 111
  1 % =  1line 1
   
   
readonly=1
after set readonly 222

Note the missing output of ':set readonly?'!!! It prints neither
'readonly' nor 'noreadonly'.
- vim6 output 
   
  1 %1line 1
before set readonly 111
 before set readonly 111
  1 % =  1line 1
  readonly
  readonly
readonly=1
after set readonly 222
-
   
Looks like a bug to me.
   
Yakov
   
  
 
 


Re: Using py commands to evaluate text for balloon commands..

2006-05-24 Thread Ilya

Yakov Lerner wrote:

[...]
Note that :py commands are not available in the sandbox.
I dont know whether Balloon function is executed in the
sandbox. Maybe it is not (then :py is available in the Balloon func),
maybe it is (then :py is not available in the Balloon func). If you
find out, I'm interested to hear your result.
[...]
Sandbox and balloon function issue was discussed ~5 month ago and vim 
was patched

allowing bexpr to run non-sandbox
commands _if_ it wasn't set in a modeline (this is so
that bexpr could potentially get values from an
external debugger or somewhere via Python/Perl
extensions).




RE: set readonly - strange?

2006-05-24 Thread Zdenek Sekera
 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 24 May 2006 12:38
 To: Zdenek Sekera
 Cc: vim-dev@vim.org
 Subject: Re: set readonly - strange?
 
 I think 'readonly' does not belong in the .vimrc since it is a
 buffer-local-only option.
 

Yes, but I have only one buffer...

 However, you can use an autocommand to set it.  What are you really
 trying to do from the .vimrc ?  Setting the readonly value for the
 default empty starting buffer seems odd, and you can manage the
 reaonly property several ways for files actually loaded into buffers.
 

Clearly, my example was a case simplyfied to the utmost,
but describing what I really want to do: display a buffer
for reading only. My real '.vimtest' has many more options,
of course, so I thought I can this one into it as well
(just as I wanted 'modifiable', 'modified', and more).
This was to make things simple, start 'vim -u this that'.
Since that doesn't work for some of those settings, I'll
have to settle for another way like 'vim -R ...'.
I wanted to avoid any additional parameter on the vim call
(for some reasons), but I have to now change my mind.

You maybe right it doesn't belong to '.vimrc', but that's
not explicitly stated anywhere (and for others), hence
my trying and discovering a hole, perhaps a bug.
Wouldn't you think that it should apply always to at least
the first buffer on the vim call? Or all if it's in .vimrc?
The implementation is not clear IMHO, perhaps the doc needs
some update. 

It will be indeed interesting to see what will Bram decide
about it. Let's wait.

---Zdenek

 
 On 5/24/06, Zdenek Sekera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   -Original Message-
   From: Eric Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 24 May 2006 11:21
   To: Zdenek Sekera
   Cc: Yakov Lerner; vim-dev@vim.org
   Subject: Re: set readonly - strange?
  
   On 5/24/06, Zdenek Sekera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 23 May 2006 18:12
 To: Yakov Lerner
 Cc: Zdenek Sekera; vim-dev@vim.org
 Subject: Re: set readonly - strange?

 As far as I can tell, there are several instances 
 where there are
 transitory buffers as vim is starting, opening a new 
 tab, probably
 some in closing op.s.

   
That may be true, but...
   
 I don't know if I used the right word by saying the buffer is
 undefined, but I don't think it it's guaranteed to be
   usable until a
 certain point, which is after -u, and at the first file
   loaded, i.e.
 -c

 If you open a buffer explicitly from inside .vimtest ,
   then that's a
 different story.

   
In my test case, buffer must exist, I am well passed 
 the '-u ...'
phase because I can *see* the buffer when I do :set readable?'.
I think Yakov's test case is saying even more.
  
   It's not clear that the buffer exists when the   :set ro  
 command is
   read according to the -u option, though it might exist in 
 some form
   since no error occurs.  Even if a buffer does exist at 
 that time, I'm
   fairly sure that is was transitory, and that it's not the 
 same buffer
   that you actually see and type  :set ro?  at.
  
   Secondly, you need to be past the -c or similar stage, 
 where it states
   that files have been loaded.  It doesn't say that for -u.
  
   You *are* past the loading state when you type  :set ro?  
 , but that's
   not the same as when the -u file is processed.
  
 
  I don't know to that depth as you do, but then we should
  agree that 'set readonly' in .vimrc is useless, because
  it would never work, right?
  This is hard to accept. So it looks more and more just as a bug.
 
  ---Zdenek
 
 It's kinda bug-ish, but it's not a bug unless it's
   contrary to stated
 behavior.  It'll be interesting to see how Bram addresses it.

   
I also think it is bug.
   
---Zdenek
   
 On 5/23/06, Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On 5/23/06, Zdenek Sekera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
create a file ~/.vimtest as follows:
   
cat  .vimtest
set nocompatible
set readonly
C-D
   
and execute (g)vim:
   
vim .vimtest -u .vimtest
   
try :set readonly? and you'll get 'noreadonly'.
 
  The buffer does exist when initfile is executed. The ':ls'
 in initfile shows it.
  Adding more printouts to initfile shows interesting results:
 
  vim -u 1 1
  - file called 1 ---
  set nocompatible
  ls
  call input('before set readonly 111')
  set readonly
  set readonly?
  ls
  set readonly?
  set readonly?
  echo readonly=.readonly
  call input('after set readonly 222')
  -
  In vim, ':verb set readonly?' shows that readonly is
 misteriously reset.
  The output differs between vim6 and vim7.
 

Re: set readonly - strange?

2006-05-24 Thread Yakov Lerner

On 5/24/06, Eric Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think 'readonly' does not belong in the .vimrc since it is a
buffer-local-only option.


If you try to set any other buffer-local option in .vimrc,
you'll see that it works just fine.

I tried 'set tw=22' in file opened as 'vim -u file file' and
it works just fine.

Yakov


Re: set readonly - strange?

2006-05-24 Thread Eric Arnold

On 5/24/06, Yakov Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 5/24/06, Eric Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think 'readonly' does not belong in the .vimrc since it is a
 buffer-local-only option.

If you try to set any other buffer-local option in .vimrc,
you'll see that it works just fine.

I tried 'set tw=22' in file opened as 'vim -u file file' and
it works just fine.



True.  Don't know for sure exactly what's going on.  However, if you use:

set nocp
echomsg '1 bufnr ' . bufnr(%) . ', bufname ' . bufname( bufnr(%) )
echomsg '1 bufloaded ' . bufloaded( bufnr(%) )
edit somefile
echomsg '2 bufnr ' . bufnr(%) . ', bufname ' . bufname( bufnr(%) )
echomsg '2 bufloaded ' . bufloaded( bufnr(%) )
set tw=71
set ro


The first echomsg shows that it does indeed think that the file from
the command line is in a buffer, however,   bufloaded()  shows that it
isn't loaded.  For all I can tell, the first buffer was created by
:badd  and doesn't become loaded until .vimrc is finished (and maybe
even later).

So, there must be some difference about which options can be applied
to a buffer before it is loaded.


Re: Pattern questions

2006-05-24 Thread Benji Fisher
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 02:22:32PM +0200, Zdenek Sekera wrote:
  
   if (char =~ '\m[;|?:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*(){}\\_+-[\]/\]')
 do something
   endif
  
   2. why when the pattern ends with '+' or '\+' do I get
  an error?

 Can you be more specific?  I tried

:let char = a
:echo char =~ '\m[;|?:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*(){}\\_+-[\]/\]+'
:echo char =~ '\m[;|?:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*(){}\\_+-[\]/\]\+'

and neither generated an error.

HTH --Benji Fisher


Re: please unsubscribe me

2006-05-24 Thread Benji Fisher
On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 12:33:50PM +0200, Ulrich Lauther wrote:
 As the automatic unsubscribing process does not seem to work and mail to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't help either, could please some kind soul
 remove me from the list?

 I think that moving the vim mailing lists to a new server is on
Bram's TODO list when he gets back from vacation.  Until then, I do not
think there is anyone who can help.  I have not tested myself, but
judging from your post and others, the mail admin is MIA. :-(

--Benji Fisher


RE: Pattern questions

2006-05-24 Thread Zdenek Sekera
Hi, Benji

 On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 02:22:32PM +0200, Zdenek Sekera wrote:
   
if (char =~ '\m[;|?:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*(){}\\_+-[\]/\]')
  do something
endif
   
2. why when the pattern ends with '+' or '\+' do I get
   an error?
 
  Can you be more specific?  I tried
 
 :let char = a
 :echo char =~ '\m[;|?:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*(){}\\_+-[\]/\]+'
 :echo char =~ '\m[;|?:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*(){}\\_+-[\]/\]\+'

Sorry, I should have been clearer:

Note the placement of the '+' in my pattern, somewhere
in the middle, there it doesn't cause any problem:

if (char =~ '\m[;|?:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*(){}\\_+-[\]/\]'
 ^
 | here

The erroneous (in my judgement) patterns are (e.g.) are these:

if (char =~ '\m[;|?:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*(){}\\_-[\]/\+]')
if (char =~ '\m[;|?:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*(){}\\_-[\]/\\+]')

So the question is why is it OK to have '+' in the middle
and not at the end?

---Zdenek


Re: Pattern questions

2006-05-24 Thread Charles E Campbell Jr

Zdenek Sekera wrote:


Sorry, I should have been clearer:

Note the placement of the '+' in my pattern, somewhere
in the middle, there it doesn't cause any problem:

if (char =~ '\m[;|?:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*(){}\\_+-[\]/\]'
^
| here

The erroneous (in my judgement) patterns are (e.g.) are these:

if (char =~ '\m[;|?:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*(){}\\_-[\]/\+]')
if (char =~ '\m[;|?:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*(){}\\_-[\]/\\+]')

So the question is why is it OK to have '+' in the middle
and not at the end?
 



It has nothing to do with +, and everything to do with - .  The - is a 
range character,
more commonly seen with something like [a-z] (which stands for all lower 
case characters).

You need to escape the minus sign (ie. \-).

Regards,
Chip Campbell



RE: Pattern questions

2006-05-24 Thread Zdenek Sekera
 -Original Message-
 From: Charles E Campbell Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 24 May 2006 15:55
 To: Zdenek Sekera
 Cc: vim-dev@vim.org
 Subject: Re: Pattern questions
 
 Zdenek Sekera wrote:
 
 Sorry, I should have been clearer:
 
 Note the placement of the '+' in my pattern, somewhere
 in the middle, there it doesn't cause any problem:
 
 if (char =~ '\m[;|?:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*(){}\\_+-[\]/\]'
  ^
  | here
 
 The erroneous (in my judgement) patterns are (e.g.) are these:
 
 if (char =~ '\m[;|?:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*(){}\\_-[\]/\+]')
 if (char =~ '\m[;|?:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*(){}\\_-[\]/\\+]')
 
 So the question is why is it OK to have '+' in the middle
 and not at the end?
   
 
 
 It has nothing to do with +, and everything to do with - .  
 The - is a 
 range character,
 more commonly seen with something like [a-z] (which stands 
 for all lower 
 case characters).
 You need to escape the minus sign (ie. \-).

Ops, I missed that one. Obvious! Thanks.

---Zdenek


Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: vim7: formatoptions]

2006-05-24 Thread Charles E Campbell Jr

Benji Fisher wrote:


Did you notice this thread on vim-dev?

- Forwarded message from Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

To: vim-dev@vim.org
From: Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:  vim7: formatoptions
Date:  Fri, 19 May 2006 13:48:51 +0200

I just realized that editing a directory removes t from formatoptions. E.g.

set formatoptions+=rw
fo = tcqrw
e Foo
fo = tcqrw
e .
fo = cqrw
e Bar
fo = cqrw

This doesn't happen with the --noplugin switch so I'd assume that some 
standard vim plugin is causing this -- maybe netrw? Can somebody verify 
this?
 



Netrw attempted to issue a warning about this problem, but apparently it 
gets wiped out before being seen.
These two settings were problematical; I originally caught them as 
causing problems with the pluginkiller.

The problem: netrw would hang.

Anyway, I think I've worked around the two settings (fo=...ta...).  Now, 
I must admit that I haven't done a comprehensive
test of netrw and all its features with these two settings active.  
Please try the netrw v100j from my website:


 http://mysite.verizon.net/astronaut/vim/index.html#VimFuncs  , see 
Network Oriented Reading, Writing, and Browsing.


Regards,
Chip Campbell


Re: netrw, winxp, and a problem...

2006-05-24 Thread Charles E Campbell Jr

A.J.Mechelynck wrote:


Charles E Campbell Jr wrote:


Hello, Tony!

I've had several folks having a problem with WinXP and netrw.  The 
problems seem to involve temporary files during attempts to use ftp; 
since temporary filenames are produced by tempname(), they're o/s 
dependent.  Admittedly without having searched the source, I figure 
that these temporary files are in fact produced by the C function 
tmpnam() -- hmm, I did just do that search, and tmpnam() is used.  
Since that's a C-library function, these temporary files are 
presumably not only o/s dependent but compiler dependent.


I generally compile my own vim using cygwin+gcc for Windows.  I've 
never seen the problems these folks are having.  So, last night I 
downloaded a copy of your compiled vim (7.0aa, perhaps patched to 
213? - I don't recall exactly).  I also installed my latest netrw, 
and used it in a dos (cmd.exe)
window, and furthermore used vim -u NONE  (also, set nocp and :so 
..path-to-netrwPlugin.vim).  I was hoping to finally see these 
problems, but I still was able to do remote browsing, readwrite and 
NreadNwrite without any problems.


So, have you had any issues with remote browsing/ftp with netrw?  Do 
you have any suspicions as to what the problem might be?  What 
compiler do you use?


Thank you,
Chip Campbell



Sorry, Dr. Chip, I can't help you there so I'm referring you to the 
vim-dev list:


1. As a rule, I don't edit over ftp, I edit my files locally and, when 
I'm satisfied with the result, I upload them with any available ftp 
client. If I want to make sure that my files look all right, I 
browse them with my favourite web browser (both locally with file: 
and remotely with http: or ftp; )



In essence, that's what netrw supports.



Creation and opening of a temporary zero-length file with a unique 
name in a given directory is a well-documented system call on Dos-like 
systems; I wouldn't expect it to be compiler-dependent since the OS 
explicitly provides it. (I'm not familiar with specific Windows calls 
but there is a Dos system call for it since Dos 3 or maybe earlier.)


I believe that cygwin does it differently, but even so, there's a 
possible compiler dependency concerning which directory the temporary 
file is made.




If it works OK with your latest version of netrw, then maybe the 
trouble is that the version of netrw distributed with Vim 7.0 is _not_ 
the latest one?



The latest is v100j, which I've just uploaded to my website.  The 
distributed version is, alas, always likely to not be the latest one, 
except for a short window of time...


Thank you,
Chip Campbell



Regression in gvim 7.0.00x

2006-05-24 Thread Luc Hermitte
Hello,

I've been observing a regression on gvim since the release of vim 7.0.
I'm observing it on gvim 7.0.000 on windows, gvim 7.0.015 (or 17, I do
not remember) on Linux (gui=GTK2/Athena). It seems I do not have it with
the console version on Linux -- I haven't had the opportunity to test
the following lines of code with the console version.

I don't remember the problem on gvim 7.0e (at least I do not have it on
vim 7.0a on windows)


The problem consists in the combination of a few things:
- a nmapping selects (as in select-mode) a few characters
- an imapping calls a function (through i_CTRL-R) that executes the
  previous mapping with :normal, and then returns \esc to terminate
  the INSERT-SELECT mode and finish in select-mode.

Here are a few VimL lines that reproduce the problems.
Go in insert mode and type !exp!, Three lines are inserted, and
toto should be selected. It is not anymore

Hitting !jp! in normal-mode, or in insert-mode, selects toto as
expected.

Note: I have found a VimL workaround by returning
\c-\\c-n\c-\\c-ngv\c-g from I_expand_n_jump().
But there is still a regression I cannot explain.


--- % 
function! N_jump()
  call search('toto')
  let select = 'v' . virtcol('.').'|o'
  if selection == 'exclusive' | let select = select . 'l' | endif
  call search('toto\zs')
  return select.\c-g
endfunction

nnoremap !jp! @=N_jump()cr
imap !jp! c-\c-n!jp!

function! I_expand_n_jump()
  let str = toto\ntiti\ntutu 
  let l = line('.')
  put=str
  exe l
  normal !jp!
  return \esc\right
endfunction

inoremap !exp! c-r=I_expand_n_jump()cr
--- % 


-- 
Luc Hermitte
http://hermitte.free.fr/vim/


Re: netrw, winxp, and a problem...

2006-05-24 Thread Steve Hall
On Wed, 2006-05-24 at 12:04 -0400, Charles E Campbell Jr wrote:
 A.J.Mechelynck wrote:
  Charles E Campbell Jr wrote:
  
   I've had several folks having a problem with WinXP and netrw.
   The problems seem to involve temporary files during attempts to
   use ftp; since temporary filenames are produced by tempname(),
   they're o/s dependent.
 
[snip]
  Sorry, Dr. Chip, I can't help you there so I'm referring you to
  the vim-dev list:

I might be completely off the trail here, but this sounds suspiciously
like my age old problem of using Vim-generated paths for Windows calls
via system(), tempname() or the like. 

No matter how hard I've tried to maintain a Windows path in a var, it
somehow always ends up with an escaped space or a forward slash. (It
seems use of fnamemodify() or expand() resets them.) So a long time
ago I gave up trying to keep slashes and backslashes straight in my
variables in favor of a wrapper approach:

let tmp = myvar
 system call prep
if has(win32)
 remove trailing slash (Win95)
let tmp = substitute(tmp, '\(\\\|/\)$', '', 'g')
 remove escaped spaces
let tmp = substitute(tmp, '\ ', ' ', 'g')
 convert slashes to backslashes
let tmp = substitute(tmp, '/', '\', 'g')
endif
set noshellslash
call system(mkdir  . '' . tmp . '')
set shellslash

Just assume all paths are Windows-hostile unless passed through such a
wrapper. (I never see these errors on *nix, so I assume it's path
related.)

Unfortunately, it is difficult to make such a strategy reasonably
modular since you want to maintain the space between the command,
options and the final path-filename argument. Abstracting the path
through one more function ends up confusing me more than just
duplicating the wrapper where needed.

You guys are both old pros, but I've been bushwhacked by this one so
many times I figured I'd encourage you to take one more gander.


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