Re: 7.3.967 fails on Tiger PPC due to Python problem
dv1...@wayne.edu, on 05/19/13 at 01:11:47 -0400, wrote:
Scrolling up through the terminal output reveals some warnings
that are potentially useful:
-pipe -DMACOS_X_UNIX -no-cpp-precomp -g -O -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE
-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=1
-I/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/include/python2.7
-DPYTHON_HOME=\/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7\ -o
objects/if_python.o if_python.c
In file included from if_python.c:660:
if_py_both.h: In function ‘OptionsDestructor’:
if_py_both.h:1415: warning: suggest explicit braces to avoid ambiguous ‘else’
if_py_both.h: In function ‘OptionsTraverse’:
if_py_both.h:1423: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘Py_VISIT’
if_py_both.h: In function ‘OptionsClear’:
if_py_both.h:1430: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘Py_CLEAR’
if_py_both.h: In function ‘WinListDestructor’:
if_py_both.h:2112: warning: suggest explicit braces to avoid ambiguous ‘else’
Since the choking was on the functions Py_{VISIT,CLEAR}, and the
warnings reflected the lines 1423 and 1430 in if_py_both.h, I decided
to do an 'hg blame' on that file. The result is that the lines in
question were most recently touched by patch 7.3.965 (the python
garbage collection patch).
I cannot bisect to test commits prior to that, because updating to
such a commit (e.g., 7.3.930) deletes all the MacVim parts and leaves
the working directory as plain BramVim. As I noted earlier, BramVim
doesn't have the problem in question.
-gmn
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Re: 7.3.967 fails on Tiger PPC due to Python problem
Phil Dobbin, on 05/23/13 at 01:50:52 +0100, wrote: On 19/05/2013 06:52, dv1...@wayne.edu wrote: dv1...@wayne.edu, on 05/19/13 at 01:11:47 -0400, wrote: MacVim failed to build on OS X 10.4.11 (PPC) after pulling to 7.3.967. Everything as of the 7.3.806 pull from February was just fine. Seems the recent fiddling with Python in BramLand has messed things up for poor Tiger. I forgot to mention that on Tiger PPC, BramVim 7.3.967 (and indeed 7.3.969) built fine. Just a point of comparison. I apologise for not being to help with your dilemma but I've just acquired a couple of legacy G4 PowerMacs running 10.4.11 if there is a link to a tarball of 7.3.806 available, I would greatly appreciate having it. Snapshot 55's Python is unable to cope with a lot of my plugins. The best I can do is to point you towards a zipped archive of the source code for 7.3.806, which comes from Björn's repo: https://github.com/b4winckler/macvim/archive/1ba220ad3da69e3607a7e36b97c66e43bca68790.zip. I discovered (reported in an earlier post) that it's patch 7.3.965 that introduces what the build process's error messages claim to be the offending lines. It seems really weird that BramVim would build without problem while MacVim would choke. -gmn -- -- You received this message from the vim_mac maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_mac group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_mac+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
