Re: just wanted to say thank you
Hi, Seems like control-e doesn't work. As for settings for vim, i'm not sure how to start yet. Will get to it this weekend. Cheers, Yuma Light has no value without darkness On 20/09/2013, at 1:41 AM, Bram Moolenaar b...@moolenaar.net wrote: Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: To all who developed vim for mac. I am a blind software engineering student and have been struggling to find the right coding environment. I tried macvim last week on counts of my friends recommending it, and once i turned core text renderer off, though visual mode is not accessible to me, all the other key commands do, which has really increased my capacity to navigate around code lengthier than 500 lines. The experience is like jumping from a physical dial nokia to the iphone 5S. This is awesome. And the more commands i learn, the better it gets. thank you guys for this application. Now on for a few comments, haha :) 1-voice over related: I've noticed that when reading through lines, vim does not read out the last character, such as ; for endss of statements. It's not too bad as i can just $i then check if the closure is there but i thought i would mention this. Just guessing: Perhaps setting 'virtualedit' to onemore helps: :set ve=onemore 2-When (i assume) the text reaches the bottom of the visible area, vim has some difficulty scrolling further down. I use the /'string' command to jump around, but when i'm in a block of code but it happens to be at the bottom of the visible area, then either the up/down arrow or j or k get clunky. To note, the system alert sound triggers so i'm assuming this also happens to visual coders. Am i doing something wrong here? Perhaps you want to use CTRL-E? Apart from the above, everything is smooth. Obviously, i'm not a power user yet so my requests might not be technical, but this might help for other blind coders out there. -- hundred-and-one symptoms of being an internet addict: 234. You started college as a chemistry major, and walk out four years later as an Internet provider. /// Bram Moolenaar -- b...@moolenaar.net -- http://www.Moolenaar.net \\\ ///sponsor Vim, vote for features -- http://www.Vim.org/sponsor/ \\\ \\\ an exciting new programming language -- http://www.Zimbu.org/// \\\help me help AIDS victims -- http://ICCF-Holland.org/// -- -- You received this message from the vim_mac maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_mac group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_mac+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: just wanted to say thank you
Yuma, I am not very experienced in this area but I was wondering if you considered Emacspeak : ( http://emacspeak.sourceforge.net/releases/release-38.0.html). This is not to knock vim or anything but Emacspeak won the ACM dissertation award for its author. Shriphani On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 4:21 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Seems like control-e doesn't work. As for settings for vim, i'm not sure how to start yet. Will get to it this weekend. Cheers, Yuma Light has no value without darkness On 20/09/2013, at 1:41 AM, Bram Moolenaar b...@moolenaar.net wrote: Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: To all who developed vim for mac. I am a blind software engineering student and have been struggling to find the right coding environment. I tried macvim last week on counts of my friends recommending it, and once i turned core text renderer off, though visual mode is not accessible to me, all the other key commands do, which has really increased my capacity to navigate around code lengthier than 500 lines. The experience is like jumping from a physical dial nokia to the iphone 5S. This is awesome. And the more commands i learn, the better it gets. thank you guys for this application. Now on for a few comments, haha :) 1-voice over related: I've noticed that when reading through lines, vim does not read out the last character, such as ; for endss of statements. It's not too bad as i can just $i then check if the closure is there but i thought i would mention this. Just guessing: Perhaps setting 'virtualedit' to onemore helps: :set ve=onemore 2-When (i assume) the text reaches the bottom of the visible area, vim has some difficulty scrolling further down. I use the /'string' command to jump around, but when i'm in a block of code but it happens to be at the bottom of the visible area, then either the up/down arrow or j or k get clunky. To note, the system alert sound triggers so i'm assuming this also happens to visual coders. Am i doing something wrong here? Perhaps you want to use CTRL-E? Apart from the above, everything is smooth. Obviously, i'm not a power user yet so my requests might not be technical, but this might help for other blind coders out there. -- hundred-and-one symptoms of being an internet addict: 234. You started college as a chemistry major, and walk out four years later as an Internet provider. /// Bram Moolenaar -- b...@moolenaar.net -- http://www.Moolenaar.net \\\ ///sponsor Vim, vote for features -- http://www.Vim.org/sponsor/\\\ \\\ an exciting new programming language -- http://www.Zimbu.org /// \\\help me help AIDS victims -- http://ICCF-Holland.org/// -- -- You received this message from the vim_mac maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_mac group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_mac+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- PhD Candidate at Carnegie Mellon University, http://shriphani.com/ http://github.com/shriphani -- -- You received this message from the vim_mac maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_mac group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_mac+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: just wanted to say thank you
Hi Shriphani, I'm aware about emacspeak, but emacs might be part of my coding environment later down the road as it requires a lot of configuring just to get the speech going when i can run emacs on my mac os terminal and pretty much get the same result with the os's default voices. If there is a 64-bit GUI version of emacs though, i'm all for giving it a try. Cheers, Yuma Light has no value without darkness On 20/09/2013, at 6:34 PM, Shriphani Palakodety shripha...@gmail.com wrote: Yuma, I am not very experienced in this area but I was wondering if you considered Emacspeak : (http://emacspeak.sourceforge.net/releases/release-38.0.html). This is not to knock vim or anything but Emacspeak won the ACM dissertation award for its author. Shriphani On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 4:21 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Seems like control-e doesn't work. As for settings for vim, i'm not sure how to start yet. Will get to it this weekend. Cheers, Yuma Light has no value without darkness On 20/09/2013, at 1:41 AM, Bram Moolenaar b...@moolenaar.net wrote: Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: To all who developed vim for mac. I am a blind software engineering student and have been struggling to find the right coding environment. I tried macvim last week on counts of my friends recommending it, and once i turned core text renderer off, though visual mode is not accessible to me, all the other key commands do, which has really increased my capacity to navigate around code lengthier than 500 lines. The experience is like jumping from a physical dial nokia to the iphone 5S. This is awesome. And the more commands i learn, the better it gets. thank you guys for this application. Now on for a few comments, haha :) 1-voice over related: I've noticed that when reading through lines, vim does not read out the last character, such as ; for endss of statements. It's not too bad as i can just $i then check if the closure is there but i thought i would mention this. Just guessing: Perhaps setting 'virtualedit' to onemore helps: :set ve=onemore 2-When (i assume) the text reaches the bottom of the visible area, vim has some difficulty scrolling further down. I use the /'string' command to jump around, but when i'm in a block of code but it happens to be at the bottom of the visible area, then either the up/down arrow or j or k get clunky. To note, the system alert sound triggers so i'm assuming this also happens to visual coders. Am i doing something wrong here? Perhaps you want to use CTRL-E? Apart from the above, everything is smooth. Obviously, i'm not a power user yet so my requests might not be technical, but this might help for other blind coders out there. -- hundred-and-one symptoms of being an internet addict: 234. You started college as a chemistry major, and walk out four years later as an Internet provider. /// Bram Moolenaar -- b...@moolenaar.net -- http://www.Moolenaar.net \\\ ///sponsor Vim, vote for features -- http://www.Vim.org/sponsor/ \\\ \\\ an exciting new programming language -- http://www.Zimbu.org/// \\\help me help AIDS victims -- http://ICCF-Holland.org/// -- -- You received this message from the vim_mac maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_mac group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_mac+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- PhD Candidate at Carnegie Mellon University, http://shriphani.com/ http://github.com/shriphani -- -- You received this message from the vim_mac maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_mac group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_mac+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message from the vim_mac maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_mac group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_mac+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: just wanted to say thank you
Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: To all who developed vim for mac. I am a blind software engineering student and have been struggling to find the right coding environment. I tried macvim last week on counts of my friends recommending it, and once i turned core text renderer off, though visual mode is not accessible to me, all the other key commands do, which has really increased my capacity to navigate around code lengthier than 500 lines. The experience is like jumping from a physical dial nokia to the iphone 5S. This is awesome. And the more commands i learn, the better it gets. thank you guys for this application. Now on for a few comments, haha :) 1-voice over related: I've noticed that when reading through lines, vim does not read out the last character, such as ; for endss of statements. It's not too bad as i can just $i then check if the closure is there but i thought i would mention this. Just guessing: Perhaps setting 'virtualedit' to onemore helps: :set ve=onemore 2-When (i assume) the text reaches the bottom of the visible area, vim has some difficulty scrolling further down. I use the /'string' command to jump around, but when i'm in a block of code but it happens to be at the bottom of the visible area, then either the up/down arrow or j or k get clunky. To note, the system alert sound triggers so i'm assuming this also happens to visual coders. Am i doing something wrong here? Perhaps you want to use CTRL-E? Apart from the above, everything is smooth. Obviously, i'm not a power user yet so my requests might not be technical, but this might help for other blind coders out there. -- hundred-and-one symptoms of being an internet addict: 234. You started college as a chemistry major, and walk out four years later as an Internet provider. /// Bram Moolenaar -- b...@moolenaar.net -- http://www.Moolenaar.net \\\ ///sponsor Vim, vote for features -- http://www.Vim.org/sponsor/ \\\ \\\ an exciting new programming language -- http://www.Zimbu.org/// \\\help me help AIDS victims -- http://ICCF-Holland.org/// -- -- You received this message from the vim_mac maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_mac group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_mac+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
just wanted to say thank you
To all who developed vim for mac. I am a blind software engineering student and have been struggling to find the right coding environment. I tried macvim last week on counts of my friends recommending it, and once i turned core text renderer off, though visual mode is not accessible to me, all the other key commands do, which has really increased my capacity to navigate around code lengthier than 500 lines. The experience is like jumping from a physical dial nokia to the iphone 5S. This is awesome. And the more commands i learn, the better it gets. thank you guys for this application. Now on for a few comments, haha :) 1-voice over related: I've noticed that when reading through lines, vim does not read out the last character, such as ; for endss of statements. It's not too bad as i can just $i then check if the closure is there but i thought i would mention this. 2-When (i assume) the text reaches the bottom of the visible area, vim has some difficulty scrolling further down. I use the /'string' command to jump around, but when i'm in a block of code but it happens to be at the bottom of the visible area, then either the up/down arrow or j or k get clunky. To note, the system alert sound triggers so i'm assuming this also happens to visual coders. Am i doing something wrong here? Apart from the above, everything is smooth. Obviously, i'm not a power user yet so my requests might not be technical, but this might help for other blind coders out there. Best regards, Yuma -- -- You received this message from the vim_mac maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups vim_mac group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vim_mac+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
