Stuff Missing from my System 7 on LC II

2018-12-29 Thread Marcus Smith
I got a Macintosh LC II that came with System 7.0.1. I Found a copy of 
System 7.5 online that came in the form of 7 floppy images that I had to 
jump through some hoops to make into actual floppies. I installed 7.5, and 
everything works fine. However, to my mind it is missing a number of 
things, such as extension manager (and some other minor things I can't 
recall right now). Is it possible the installer didn't install everything 
based on my hard disk size or something (40 MB)? Any ideas?

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Re: Stuff Missing from my System 7 on LC II

2018-12-30 Thread Marcus Smith
So.. Mine has 10 MB of RAM, 40 MB HDD. Last night, I made floppies of the
7.5.3 update (14 of them) using my beige G3. I installed them on the LCII.
I had to delete some stuff because the installer wanted 15MB of free space
to proceed. The installation went fine, but I have the same issue - no
extension manager, appearance, control strip, etc.. Either something is
messed up from the original installation that has carried through, or..
something.. Anyway...

The sad news is that all of those floppy ejections killed my floppy drive's
ability to eject (now just makes a weird noise). I have another floppy
drive on the way as well as a 160MB HDD. I'll just re-do the entire thing
from scratch.

I also have a SCSI CD ROM for the LC II - still waiting for a SCSI cable
for that. I also have a burner for my G3 coming so I can make CDs for the
LC II. Can the LC II boot from an external CD ROM?

Anyway.. I'm starting to spend waaay to much money on these old computers.
Why? Because I think it's fun! Whee!

On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 7:12 PM Paul Mccorkle  wrote:

>
> You could boot from an external scsi2sd, that would work.
>
> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 3:58 PM 'Keith Jamison' via Vintage Macs <
> vintage-macs@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm with Paul. I've only ever seen 7.5.3 as a large archive of multiple
>> images. Each image can be transferred on a single floppy but you need to
>> have them all to extract the installation information. That should extract
>> to a single file of about 20MB. A 40MB HDD is probably too small especially
>> if you have an OS on the disk as well as applications etc.
>>
>> According to MacTracker, 7.5 requires a minimum of 4MB RAM and 21MB of
>> hard drive space. Your LC II has a minimum of 2MB RAM and can have a
>> maximum of 10MB RAM.
>>
>> I think your 40MB drive isn't big enough for the installation.
>>
>> Even if you have 22MB of free space, the Mac has to move things into
>> position before the new OS can go live. It also requires somewhere to store
>> that 21MB installation file while it transfers files and components for the
>> OS update.
>>
>> Maybe consider this.
>>
>> Clone your 40MB drive to a ZIP disk if possible. Copy the full 7.5
>> installation to the Zip disk. Boot the LC II using the ZIP as the start up
>> disk. Install the 7.5 on the Zip disk and this should preserve your
>> applications and files through the upgrade.
>>
>> When you are happy, Clone your ZIP back to the 40MB drive and it should
>> be the full 7.5.
>>
>> Just a thought.
>>
>> Hope you get it sorted,
>>
>> Keith
>>
>> On Sunday, 30 December 2018, 12:20:07 GMT, Paul Mccorkle <
>> driven...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> try reinstall?  Never heard of this before.
>>
>> http://igsi.tripod.com/mac/index753.htm
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 1:14 AM Marcus Smith 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I got a Macintosh LC II that came with System 7.0.1. I Found a copy of
>> System 7.5 online that came in the form of 7 floppy images that I had to
>> jump through some hoops to make into actual floppies. I installed 7.5, and
>> everything works fine. However, to my mind it is missing a number of
>> things, such as extension manager (and some other minor things I can't
>> recall right now). Is it possible the installer didn't install everything
>> based on my hard disk size or something (40 MB)? Any ideas?
>>
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Re: Stuff Missing from my System 7 on LC II

2019-01-03 Thread Marcus Smith
So... I got my SCSI cable. Even though the CD ROM doesn't work when the 
system is running (probably because I haven't installed the driver, you 
know, since my floppy drive is busted), I was able to use it to boot to a 
7.5.3 full install CD I found on Macintosh Repository. I wiped the HDD, and 
installed the system from scratch. Now, everything looks right, and I have 
the control panels I expect to have (except control strip...). There is 
still 16 of the 40 MB left!

Before reinstall, it didn't have colorful folder icons, the trash can was 
in black and white, it was missing a number of control panels. Something 
was definitely wrong.. Now it's all good. Yay! Thanks for the pointers guys!

On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 1:14:15 AM UTC-6, Marcus Smith wrote:
>
> I got a Macintosh LC II that came with System 7.0.1. I Found a copy of 
> System 7.5 online that came in the form of 7 floppy images that I had to 
> jump through some hoops to make into actual floppies. I installed 7.5, and 
> everything works fine. However, to my mind it is missing a number of 
> things, such as extension manager (and some other minor things I can't 
> recall right now). Is it possible the installer didn't install everything 
> based on my hard disk size or something (40 MB)? Any ideas?
>

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