Re: Trouble loading OS 7.6.1 onto a IIci.

[J.S. Garrison]

on 10/20/03 5:35 PM, John Niven at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I was trying to install OS 7.6.1 from an external CDrom, on a IIci with
> 20Mb RAM and a 500Mb HD.
> 
> I successfully booted from the CDrom.
> 
> The install is supposed to instal 7.6 first then do the 7.6.1 update
> automatically. However the installer freezes at the end of the first
> install. When I restart the Mac from the HD it works but is only 7.6.
> 
> I've used this CD on other (newer) systems and not had this problem
> (this will be the first IIci).
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> John
> 

I've only done that with floppies. Maybe if you copy the update to your hard
disk?


Jeff


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Re: Trouble loading OS 7.6.1 onto a IIci.

[Rankin, Adam]

-- Original Message --
From: John Niven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date:  Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:35:20 -0700

>I was trying to install OS 7.6.1 from an external CDrom, on a IIci with 
>20Mb RAM and a 500Mb HD.
>
>I successfully booted from the CDrom.
>
>The install is supposed to instal 7.6 first then do the 7.6.1 update 
>automatically. However the installer freezes at the end of the first 
>install. When I restart the Mac from the HD it works but is only 7.6.
>
>I've used this CD on other (newer) systems and not had this problem 
>(this will be the first IIci).
>
>Any ideas?
>
>John
>
o could try to run the 7.6.1 updater on it's own. This buried somewhere in the 
software installers folder on the CD. Also, are you sure that there is enough space 
avalible on the hard drive?

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Trouble loading OS 7.6.1 onto a IIci.

[John Niven]

I was trying to install OS 7.6.1 from an external CDrom, on a IIci with 
20Mb RAM and a 500Mb HD.

I successfully booted from the CDrom.

The install is supposed to instal 7.6 first then do the 7.6.1 update 
automatically. However the installer freezes at the end of the first 
install. When I restart the Mac from the HD it works but is only 7.6.

I've used this CD on other (newer) systems and not had this problem 
(this will be the first IIci).

Any ideas?

John

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Re: Apple! Re: OS 7.6.1

[the pickle]

At 20:02 -0700 on 18/08/01, Gregg Eshelman wrote:

>OK! Get me my #8 Clue-by-Four. GRR! Apple has
>moved or just plain cut off public access to
>the devworld site now.

Try this:



The other nice bits are in the Development_Kits/ directory, up two levels
in that FTP URL above.

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Re: OS 7.6.1

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At 19:36 -0700 on 18/08/01, Gregg Eshelman wrote:

>--- Marten van de Kraats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> If you use a dialup connection, download ot ppp too.
>> Same directory.
>
>I saw some site (while digging up info on the 6200)
>that FreePPP is a much better performer on the
>internet than OT-PPP. Somehow FreePPP can operate

It used to be, back when OT/PPP first came out.

That advantage disappeared with Mac OS 8.1 and OT 1.3.x and higher.

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Re: OS 7.6.1

[the pickle]

At 19:29 -0700 on 18/08/01, Gregg Eshelman wrote:

>Then get Open Transport 1.1.1 and install it then
>get Open Transport 1.1.2 and install it. I don't
>know why Apple says to install 1.1.1 then 1.1.2
>instead of just installing 1.1.2. Open Transport

...because the OT on the ftp.info.apple.com server won't actually WORK if
you don't install 1.1.1 first.

The version on dev is a full install and will work without installing any
OT first.

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Apple! Re: OS 7.6.1

[Gregg Eshelman]

--- Gregg Eshelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- Steve Moody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >Anybody have a copy of 7.6.1 for an LCIII?  I'm
> > using 7.1, but want 
> > to move up to a version that has OT so that I can
> > network it with a 
> > newer Mac.
> 
> You don't need 7.6.1 for that. :) Hit this,
> http://devworld.apple.com/sdk

OK! Get me my #8 Clue-by-Four. GRR! Apple has
moved or just plain cut off public access to
the devworld site now.

I'll be back in a bit after I go pound some common
sense into the #$^##^&%$s who are completely
fouling up Apple's websites.

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Re: OS 7.6.1

[Gregg Eshelman]

--- Marten van de Kraats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you use a dialup connection, download ot ppp too.
> Same directory.

I saw some site (while digging up info on the 6200)
that FreePPP is a much better performer on the
internet than OT-PPP. Somehow FreePPP can operate
the 6200's serial ports (and maybe other old Macs')
at 56K speed when normally they top out at 19.2K
or 9.6K for the 6200 series.

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Re: OS 7.6.1

[Gregg Eshelman]

--- Steve Moody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>Anybody have a copy of 7.6.1 for an LCIII?  I'm
> using 7.1, but want 
> to move up to a version that has OT so that I can
> network it with a 
> newer Mac.

You don't need 7.6.1 for that. :) Hit this,
http://devworld.apple.com/sdk

Get the Drag Manager, Thread Manager and CFM 68k.
Then get Open Transport 1.1.1 and install it then
get Open Transport 1.1.2 and install it. I don't
know why Apple says to install 1.1.1 then 1.1.2
instead of just installing 1.1.2. Open Transport
will disable MacTCP and make the Network control
panel invisible. OT uses the AppleTalk and TCP/IP
control panels. To make it work on an Ethernet LAN
you need to set both of those control panels to
connect via Ethernet. If you have TCP/IP setup
manually and boot up without another computer
(even a PC!) active to "talk" to, it usually
switches AppleTalk back to the Printer port. :P
Gets annoying when I forget and boot the Mac
before the PC. At least I can switch it to Ethernet
and don't have to reboot. But it would be nicer
if (like Windows) it wouldn't just decide on its
own that since there isn't _any_ activity on the
ethernet port that it will "help" and switch
AppleTalk to the printer port for me. :P
(Is there any extention or control panel that
will tell Mac OS to leave my network setings 
the $#^$#$ alone how _I_ set them?)

If for some reason you want to switch to MacTCP there
is a Network Software Selector control panel on
the net somewhere.

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Re: OS 7.6.1

[the pickle]

At 10:49 -0400 on 18/08/01, Steve Moody wrote:

>   Anybody have a copy of 7.6.1 for an LCIII?  I'm using 7.1, but want
>to move up to a version that has OT so that I can network it with a
>newer Mac.

Uhmmm..why not just install OT on the LC III?

Links are in the FAQ.
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Re: OS 7.6.1

[Dana Sibera]

On Sunday, August 19, 2001, at 01:26 AM, Marten van de Kraats wrote:

>> At 5:15 PM +0200 8/18/01, Marten van de Kraats wrote:
Anybody have a copy of 7.6.1 for an LCIII?  I'm using 7.1, but 
 want
 to move up to a version that has OT so that I can network it with a
 newer Mac.
 --
 ---
>>> Just install OT on 7.1 and be done with it. Your lc III will be dog
>>> slow with 7.6.1.
>>
>>Where can I get OT and what version do I need?
>> --
> ftp://ftp.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/
> Macintosh/Networking-Communications/Open_Transport
> I'd download 1.1.1 I think and then 1.1.2 on top of that (I vaguely
> remember you can't install 1.1.2 without first installing 1.1.1, but
> I might be mistaken).

That's exactly how I set it up on my LC475 - slightly different base as 
I have 7.5.3 on it, but it did need 1.1.1 before 1.1.2 (or version 
numbers similar to those :D). regardless, the text files on the ftp site 
do explain it :D

Be well,
Dana

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Re: OS 7.6.1

[Marten van de Kraats]

>At 5:15 PM +0200 8/18/01, Marten van de Kraats wrote:
>>   >Anybody have a copy of 7.6.1 for an LCIII?  I'm using 7.1, but want
>>>to move up to a version that has OT so that I can network it with a
>>>newer Mac.
>>>--
>>>---
>>Just install OT on 7.1 and be done with it. Your lc III will be dog
>>slow with 7.6.1.
>
>Where can I get OT and what version do I need?
>--
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I'd download 1.1.1 I think and then 1.1.2 on top of that (I vaguely 
remember you can't install 1.1.2 without first installing 1.1.1, but 
I might be mistaken).

If you use a dialup connection, download ot ppp too. Same directory.

Marten
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Re: OS 7.6.1

[Steve Moody]

At 5:15 PM +0200 8/18/01, Marten van de Kraats wrote:
>  >Anybody have a copy of 7.6.1 for an LCIII?  I'm using 7.1, but want
>>to move up to a version that has OT so that I can network it with a
>>newer Mac.
>>--
>>---
>Just install OT on 7.1 and be done with it. Your lc III will be dog
>slow with 7.6.1.

   Where can I get OT and what version do I need?
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Re: OS 7.6.1

[Marten van de Kraats]

>Anybody have a copy of 7.6.1 for an LCIII?  I'm using 7.1, but want
>to move up to a version that has OT so that I can network it with a
>newer Mac.
>--
>---
Just install OT on 7.1 and be done with it. Your lc III will be dog 
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OS 7.6.1

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   Anybody have a copy of 7.6.1 for an LCIII?  I'm using 7.1, but want 
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newer Mac.
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