Re: Xfinity mobile question

[Mary Otten]

Well, I'm not sure. We used to have Xfinity cable, and one of the side benefits 
of that was access to Xfinity Wi-Fi when available. You did have to have 
Xfinity password etc. to get into the app for the Wi-Fi. But many of the sites 
were not secure, and they told you that when you login. So I would be very 
careful. I would at least one a lot more explanation.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 23, 2017, at 6:58 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> As I understand it, it only uses Xfinity wifi and that is secure since you 
> cannot access it without an Xfinity account username and password.
> Richard
> 
> 
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 23, 2017, at 2:34 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>> I would be really concerned about that switching to Wi-Fi when it's 
>> available. A lot of that Wi-Fi might not be secure. Do you really want to do 
>> that? It might be cheaper, but security is a huge deal.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 23, 2017, at 11:49 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Since Comcast has started their Accessibility help line, the customer 
>>> service has been quite good.
>>> I have not gone to their mobile service since you have to buy the phone 
>>> through them and I'm not quite ready to buy a new phone.
>>> They are using the Verizon towers, so the coverage is as good as Verizon 
>>> plus they switch to xfinity wifi when available saving on data usage.
>>> You get unlimited talk and text with your comcast/xfinity internet service, 
>>> so no charge unless you use data.
>>> HTH,
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
>>> flying.
>>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
>>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 23, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
 Wendy,
 
 I don't have Xfinity Mobile but I pulled up the app in the Apps Store and 
 was not impressed that 55% of those reviewing it gave it 1 star. I'd urge 
 everyone considering a switch to this service to research it thoroughly 
 and not just based on an introductory price. Historically, Comcast has not 
 received very good marks for customer service.
 
 Alan Lemly
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Wendy Alling
 Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 8:01 AM
 To: iPhone list
 Subject: Xfinity mobile question
 
 Hi everyone, now that Xfinity has xfinity  mobile, is anyone who has 
 Comcast using this? If so, what do you think? I'm thinking of switching. 
 Thanks for any help.
 
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Re: Xfinity mobile question

[Richard Turner]

As I understand it, it only uses Xfinity wifi and that is secure since you 
cannot access it without an Xfinity account username and password.
Richard


"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."



On Oct 23, 2017, at 2:34 PM, Mary Otten 
> wrote:

I would be really concerned about that switching to Wi-Fi when it's available. 
A lot of that Wi-Fi might not be secure. Do you really want to do that? It 
might be cheaper, but security is a huge deal.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 23, 2017, at 11:49 AM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:

Since Comcast has started their Accessibility help line, the customer service 
has been quite good.
I have not gone to their mobile service since you have to buy the phone through 
them and I'm not quite ready to buy a new phone.
They are using the Verizon towers, so the coverage is as good as Verizon plus 
they switch to xfinity wifi when available saving on data usage.
You get unlimited talk and text with your comcast/xfinity internet service, so 
no charge unless you use data.
HTH,
Richard


"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."



On Oct 23, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Alan Lemly 
> wrote:

Wendy,

I don't have Xfinity Mobile but I pulled up the app in the Apps Store and was 
not impressed that 55% of those reviewing it gave it 1 star. I'd urge everyone 
considering a switch to this service to research it thoroughly and not just 
based on an introductory price. Historically, Comcast has not received very 
good marks for customer service.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wendy Alling
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 8:01 AM
To: iPhone list
Subject: Xfinity mobile question

Hi everyone, now that Xfinity has xfinity  mobile, is anyone who has Comcast 
using this? If so, what do you think? I'm thinking of switching. Thanks for any 
help.

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5 reasons to use Edge in Windows 10 Fall Creators Update - CNET

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I am posting this because Apple compatibility is mentioned in the article.

Mark  

5 reasons to use Edge in Windows 10 Fall Creators Update - CNET

CNET How To - Saturday, October 21, 2017 at 11:05 AM
5 reasons to use Edge in Windows 10 Fall Creators Update - CNET
With Windows 10 Fall Creators Update, Microsoft has added a handful of new
features and tweaks to its Edge browser. I doubt they will be enough to pry
you away from your browser of choice, but the Edge browser continues to
trend in the right direction. Here are the five big improvements Microsoft
has made to Edge with its most recent Windows update. 
Pin pages to the taskbar
Not seen since Windows 8, you can once again pin websites to the taskbar. To
do so, click the triple-dot button along the Edge window's right edge and
choose Pin this page to the taskbar. 
 
You can put your favorite websites on your taskbar for fast access. 
Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET 
True full-screen mode
Edge finally has a true, full-screen mode where you lose the browser's menus
and tabs at the top. Hit F11 to toggle in and out of full-screen mode or
click the triple-dot button and then click the diagonal double-arrow button
to the right of the zoom controls. 
Better integration with your phone

Edge promises to let you start an article on your phone and then pick it
where you left off on your PC, but you'll need to use a preview version of
Edge for iOS or Android or the Cortana app for iOS or Android to try it out.
And you'll need to connect your phone to your PC in the new Phone section of
the Settings app, which you'll find on the main page of Settings. I tried it
out by installing the Cortana app on my iPhone ($849.00 at Apple). I opened
a news article and tapped the blue button to continue reading on my PC. It
worked seamlessly; as soon as I tapped the button on my phone, a new tab
opened on Edge on my PC. 
 
Heading home? Send the article you are reading on your phone to your PC.
Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET 
Better bookmarking
Click the star button in Edge (or hit Control-D) and you'll see Edge's
bookmark menu got a design refresh and better illustrates the folder
hierarchy for your favorites, making it quicker and easier to find a folder
to plop a new favorite. And on the Favorites hub itself, you'll find two new
items on the right-click menu -- Sort by name and Edit URL. The former lets
you arrange a list of favorites alphabetically and the latter lets you
quickly edit a favorite's URL. 
Better PDF and eBook reader
Microsoft added a few tools to make Edge more capable with PDFs and eBooks
for touchscren PCs. With PDFs, you can now click the Add Notes button to the
right of the URL bar to ink on the PDF, from signing your name and
highlighting lines to adding comments and copying text. It's particularly
useful for signing documents -- no longer will you need to add a weird
electronic signature or, worse, print, sign and scan a PDF in order to send
back a signed copy. 
 
You can add highlights and notes to eBooks as well as PDF files.
Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET 
For eBooks, students (and habitual notetakers) will rejoice at being able to
mark up eBooks as you read them. Just highlight some text and a small menu
will appear that lets you highlight the text, underline it, add a comment,
copy it or open a Cortana panel along the Edge window's right edge without
leaving the page you are on. 
Read more: The 10 best new features of Windows 10 Fall Creators Update 
 
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RE: keyboard issue after apparent forced upgrade

[Connie Mohney]

Hello Ray,

I have an amazon basics keyboard too. I’m getting the same behaviors with mine 
as you are.  Here are some work arounds.  To get to the app switcher press   
control option and the letter h that will take you away from the app.  It will 
still be open but just in the back ground.  If you want to be able to close the 
app press the control option and hold them down.  Then you want to press the h 
twice quickly while you are holding those keys down.  It will say app switcher 
then you are given the option to close the app. If you want to delete e-mail 
messages, you have to have your roder set to actions.  Then you can up arrow to 
delete the e-mail message.  Now, if you were referring to iMessages you have to 
have the roder on actions press the up arrow  the first thing you are going to 
hear is hide alerts.  Up arrow again and it will say delete.  You double tap 
there and it will say delete null.  As soon as you close the app the messages 
will be gone.  I don’t think it is the amazon basics keyboard because I use a 
smaller keyboard when I’m away from home and get those same behaviors.  So, I’m 
hoping these behaviors will get fixed with another update.

HTH.

 

Connie 

 

From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 7:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: keyboard issue after apparent forced upgrade

 

I have an amazon basics keyboard connected to the phone. Under Bluetooth 
settings, it Identifies as a KT1281. After the upgrade, I no longer have a 
number of the f key functions such as f1 twice to get to the app switcher. Is 
this a bug or is this keyboard no longer compatible with IOS11? Also how do I 
go about deleting messages from the messages app without having to stand on my 
head? When I select delete and invoke it with either a finger or the keyboard, 
The message does not appear to delete. What might I be missing or, is this also 
a bug?
Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA

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Re: Aipoly app for iphone

[Donna]

The app itself is FREE, but to get the full functionality of the app there is a 
monthly charge. Without the monthly subscription the app is mostly useless. 
There are other apps that have similar features that are Free & have no monthly 
subscription Fee. 

Donna   
> 
> This message says this app it’s free. And it is not free the app is on a 
> subscription base and so you will be charged I believe around $10 a month for 
> it
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 19, 2016, at 11:52 AM, Dionipher Herrera  wrote:
>> 
>> good morning guys! i just want to invite you to try this app called aipoly 
>> and it’s free. it recognises objects and color  in no time while the taptap 
>> see, you have to take pictures and recognises it.
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iTunes Radio Stations

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,  

Is it still possible to create new iTunes radio stations if one does not
subscribe to Apple Music?  

I attempted to create a new radio station in the iOS 11 Music app, but was
unable to do so without first agreeing to subscribe to the Apple Music
streaming service.

All replies welcomed.

Mark

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Re: Aipoly app for iphone

[Johnna Simmons]

This message says this app it’s free. And it is not free the app is on a 
subscription base and so you will be charged I believe around $10 a month for it

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 19, 2016, at 11:52 AM, Dionipher Herrera  wrote:
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Need Tips for Attaching Photo to Message and Getting it to Stay There when Msg is Delivered

[Dani Pagador]

Hi, Everyone.
I'm helping my Mom with her phone again. I've taught her to use the
Attach Media option to take a photo while in the Messages app. I
understand, in a general sense, that you can hit Send and that the
photo should stay with the text message--I've seen texts from my Sis
with photos attached, so made the assumption from there.

But when Mom does it, I get the text and no pic.

I only have light perception and don't use the camera, so know almost
nothing about this.

What am I missing? She says some message comes up about effects. What
does that mean, and how do I help her?

Thanks,
Dani

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Re: Xfinity mobile question

[Mary Otten]

I would be really concerned about that switching to Wi-Fi when it's available. 
A lot of that Wi-Fi might not be secure. Do you really want to do that? It 
might be cheaper, but security is a huge deal.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 23, 2017, at 11:49 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Since Comcast has started their Accessibility help line, the customer service 
> has been quite good.
> I have not gone to their mobile service since you have to buy the phone 
> through them and I'm not quite ready to buy a new phone.
> They are using the Verizon towers, so the coverage is as good as Verizon plus 
> they switch to xfinity wifi when available saving on data usage.
> You get unlimited talk and text with your comcast/xfinity internet service, 
> so no charge unless you use data.
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 23, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
>> Wendy,
>> 
>> I don't have Xfinity Mobile but I pulled up the app in the Apps Store and 
>> was not impressed that 55% of those reviewing it gave it 1 star. I'd urge 
>> everyone considering a switch to this service to research it thoroughly and 
>> not just based on an introductory price. Historically, Comcast has not 
>> received very good marks for customer service.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 8:01 AM
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>> Subject: Xfinity mobile question
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>> Hi everyone, now that Xfinity has xfinity  mobile, is anyone who has Comcast 
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RE: changing the way received signal is displayed

[M. Taylor]

Hello Ray,

According to the web, it is no longer possible to place iOS 11.x on iPHone into 
permanent Field Test mode.  Field Test mode is the state in which iPhone needs 
to be, in order to display signal strength in numbers rather than bars.

I submitted a feature request to Apple, regarding this but whether or not they 
will restore this functionality is anyone's guess.  If they do, I suspect it 
will take years.

Just one more reason why, so far, I'm glad I have not yet updated to iOS 11.  
(smile)

Mark

From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 10:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: changing the way received signal is displayed

How do we go from bars to numbers again?
Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA
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Join Me in Reporting Twitter for iOS v7.10 Moments and TrendsForYou VoiceOver Accessibility Bug

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I am cross-posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing
list.

As of the latest Twitter for iOS app, v7.10, released today, TwitterMoments
and TrendsForYou are not VoiceOver accessible.

Please join me in reporting this issue.

The following is the review I posted in the App Store.  You are welcome to
use any or all of it in your feedback to Twitter:

[BEGIN REVIEW]
SUBJECT:
Request to Fix TwitterMoments and TrendsForYou VoiceOver Accessibility Bug

Unlike in previous versions of the app, in the latest release of Twitter for
iOS (v7.10), VoiceOver, Apple's software screen reading solution for the
blind and low vision,  cannot access TwitterMoments and the "TrendsForYou"
feature of the Twitter service.

STEPS TO REPRODUCE:

1.
Make certain that VoiceOver is enabled.  

2.
>From within the Twitter for iOS app, select the "Search and Explore" tab,
located near the bottom center of the display.  The current headline article
will be displayed.  This area of the screen is VoiceOver accessible.  

3.
Either by single-finger swiping from left-to-right or using
explore-by-touch, place VoiceOver focus on the "Trends for You" heading,
located just above the middle center of the display.  

4.
Now, single-finger swipe from left-to-right in order to read the currently
trending article headlines.  In previous versions of the app, the trending
article headlines would be read, out loud.  Now, however, swiping from
left-to-right results in nothing being read, out loud, even though there are
trending article headlines being displayed on the screen.

5.
Either by single-finger swiping from left-to-right or using
explore-by-touch, place VoiceOver focus on the "Today's Moments" heading.

6.
Now, single-finger swipe from left-to-right in order to read the Twitter
Moments article headlines.  In previous versions of the app, the Twitter
Moments article headlines would be read, out loud.  Now, however, swiping
from left-to-right results in nothing being read, out loud, even though
there are Twitter Moments article headlines being displayed on the screen.

I fervently request that this VoiceOver accessibility bug be addressed as
soon as possible.

Thank you,
[END REVIEW]

Here is my tweet on this issue:
[BEGIN TWEET]:
In #iOS @Twitter v7.10 app, #TwitterMoments and #TrendsForYou areas are
inaccessible to the #VisuallyImpaired, via #VoiceOver. @Support 
[END TWEET]:

The following is the text of the feedback I submitted via Twitter's feedback
tool, which has a 500-character limit:
[BEGIN FEEDBACK]
In the latest release of Twitter for iOS (v7.10), the TwitterMoments &
TrendsForYou areas are completely inaccessible to the visually impaired, via
VoiceOver. Please fix as soon as possible.
[END FEEDBACK]

Post your request in the App Store, as a review, send a tweet to both
@support and @Twitter, and Submit feedback to Twitter via the feedback form
located at:
https://support.twitter.com/forms/feature_report?feature=tweets.

Thank you and I'll see you on Twitter, @MarkMarcus.

Mark


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trouble with turfwars since updating IOS?

[goshawk on horseback]

is anyone else having major problems getting the iPhone game turf wars to work 
since updating to the latest IOS? 
as I certainly am. 
more to the point, has anyone found a way to get rid of the problems? 

Simon 

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Questions about formatting and picture conversions using KNFB Reader app

[Jim Portillo]

Good morning,

 

Two questions for you.

A few weeks ago, I was in a class where some handouts were being passed out.
A friend of mine took a picture of the handout he got using my KNFB reader
app.  He'd never seen the app before, and was a bit skeptical about
something that happened while taking the picture.  He said that the
formatting didn't look right or didn't look as it did on the actual handout.
Does the formatting need to be edited or something?

It read OK when I took it home.  So, when the picture is taken, does the
formatting change in some way?  How can I make sure the formatting is the
same?

 

Yesterday, I was in the same class, and my friend accidently used my camera
to take a picture of some papers handed out.

So, now I just have a picture.  I seriously doubt that KNFB reader would
convert such a picture, right?

 

I think that next time, I'll just get my own copies of handouts.  We just
thought we were taking advantage of my pone and the apps.  If anyone knows
how to convert a picture using KNFB reader, I'd love to know.

 

Thanks.

Jim

 

 

 

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Re: Xfinity mobile question

[Richard Turner]

Since Comcast has started their Accessibility help line, the customer service 
has been quite good.
I have not gone to their mobile service since you have to buy the phone through 
them and I'm not quite ready to buy a new phone.
They are using the Verizon towers, so the coverage is as good as Verizon plus 
they switch to xfinity wifi when available saving on data usage.
You get unlimited talk and text with your comcast/xfinity internet service, so 
no charge unless you use data.
HTH,
Richard


"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."



On Oct 23, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Alan Lemly 
> wrote:

Wendy,

I don't have Xfinity Mobile but I pulled up the app in the Apps Store and was 
not impressed that 55% of those reviewing it gave it 1 star. I'd urge everyone 
considering a switch to this service to research it thoroughly and not just 
based on an introductory price. Historically, Comcast has not received very 
good marks for customer service.

Alan Lemly

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wendy Alling
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 8:01 AM
To: iPhone list
Subject: Xfinity mobile question

Hi everyone, now that Xfinity has xfinity  mobile, is anyone who has Comcast 
using this? If so, what do you think? I'm thinking of switching. Thanks for any 
help.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: WiFi thermostats

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Richard,

Can you use Voice Over to change the temperature?

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 8:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WiFi thermostats

 

 

Yes, you can raise or lower it by one degree at a time with the up or down 
buttons. Or you can double tap on the Voice Recorder mic button and say set 
heat at 70 degrees, etc. 

Then, there will be a button to either set it as a permanent hold, or to hold 
until a certain time.

You can also set up a schedule, though that is rather tedious. 

HTH,

Richard

 





(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)


On Oct 22, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:

Hi Richard,

Can you raise or lower the heat or air conditioner settings with VO?

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 3:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WiFi thermostats

 

 

rick, 

The honeywell app works very well. The only thing I really wish was exposed to 
VoiceOver is the current inside/outside temperature reading. You can use the 
voice button and ask, but that is a bit hit and miss. 

I like the fact that you can make adjustments from anywhere.

Richard

 






(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)


On Oct 22, 2017, at 12:51 PM, Rick Alfaro  wrote:

Chip, thanks for the great summary. So far I’m leaning to the Honeywell 
RTH9585WF1004 since it’s app looks to be at least somewhat workable. The 
Ecobee4 looked interesting but I found the demo mode in the app to mostly be 
inaccessible with no way to interact with the controls with VO.

 

The skill you mentioned sounds very interesting. Is there any skill available 
that will allow you to create schedules? Also, how much can you really do via 
the Echo or Siri? I get the feeling it’s quite limited.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 3:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: WiFi thermostats

 

I have several years of experience with the Nest thermostats:  we own two, and 
we have two Nest smoke detectors as well (primarily because they will call your 
phone if an emergency occurs at home).

 

The Nest app is moderately accessible … I have not been able to set schedules 
using it.  Also, if the thermostat has a problem connecting to your wifi, or 
via the internet to the Nest main servers, it will display error messages only 
on the thermostat (which you usually have to have sighted help to deal with).

 

You could get around the inability to set schedules by use of the “learning” 
feature (having your installer clear all learning after installation and 
testing is very helpful).  Each time you make an adjustment to the temp, the 
idea is that if it sees you do this repeatedly it will make a schedule for you.

 

My wife found it confusing when it would suddenly make a temperature setting 
change without explanation, so we eventually turned off learning (I guess it’s 
a personal preference).

 

It’s very nice that the Nest will manage humidity in a home which has a 
two-speed or a variable speed system.  It does this by running the system at 
slower speeds when the humidity rises too high.  Even with a standard single 
speed system the Nest will manage humidity by “over-cooling” up to 4 degrees if 
you enable this feature.  However, it takes sighted assistance to adjust the 
humidity level setting (it’s not something you usually ever adjust again 
however).

 

It’s a very good idea to get an installer who is certified as a “Nest Pro”, so 
ask them.  Turns out my installer was not, and I am still arguing with them, 
and trying to teach them about Nest features.  Their one employee who 
understood Nest thermostats has left them.

 

If you have both Nest thermostats and smoke detectors, if you have any smoke 
the detectors will cause your heating or air conditioning to shut off to stop 
the spread of smoke … a nice feature.  Their smoke detectors report the problem 
with a recorded voice announcement, along with its location, such as “low 
battery in the dining room” or “smoke in the up stairs”, so this is also nice.  
They self test themselves monthly, and report the results to you via the app.

 

While the ability to control Nest thermostats is built into the Echo, I use a 
third party Skill called “The Thermostat” because it allows me to ask it what 
is the humidity in the up stairs, and other such additional questions and 
commands, so you may want to look into this skill as it works with many models.

 

Hth,

 

Chip

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rick Alfaro
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 1:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: WiFi thermostats

 

Hello listers. I know this topic has been discussed several 

RE: Xfinity mobile question

[Alan Lemly]

Wendy,

I don't have Xfinity Mobile but I pulled up the app in the Apps Store and was 
not impressed that 55% of those reviewing it gave it 1 star. I'd urge everyone 
considering a switch to this service to research it thoroughly and not just 
based on an introductory price. Historically, Comcast has not received very 
good marks for customer service.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wendy Alling
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 8:01 AM
To: iPhone list
Subject: Xfinity mobile question

Hi everyone, now that Xfinity has xfinity  mobile, is anyone who has Comcast 
using this? If so, what do you think? I'm thinking of switching. Thanks for any 
help.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Get an unlimited no-contract phone plan for $45 - CNET

[Mateo fizen]

here are some great offers: https://kingcasinobonus.co.uk

marți, 15 august 2017, 08:24:31 UTC+3, M. Taylor a scris:
>
> CNET News - Monday, August 14, 2017 at 6:50 AM 
> Get an unlimited no-contract phone plan for $45 - CNET 
> CNET's Cheapskate scours the web for great deals on PCs, phones, gadgets 
> and 
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>  
>   
> Rok Mobile's new plan undercuts Sprint by $5 a month. You can use that 
> savings to buy them some vowels. 
> Rok Mobile 
> How much data do you typically consume in a month? The average is 
> somewhere 
> around 3-4GB, in which case Cricket Wireless offers arguably the best deal 
> around: $35 a month (with autopay) for a plan that includes 4GB of 4G LTE 
> data. Cricket is a GSM carrier, however, and 4GB may not be enough for 
> everyone. 
> Indeed, if you're packing a Sprint-compatible CDMA phone and you like to 
> stream a lot of video, you're probably more interested in an unlimited 
> plan. 
> Verizon charges $80 per month for the privilege, while Sprint is quite a 
> bit 
> more affordable at $50. But now there's an even better deal. 
> Mobile virtual network operator (MVNO) Rok Mobile just introduced an 
> unlimited Sprint-network plan for $45 per month. That would save you $60 a 
> year over Sprint and $420 over Verizon. What's more, that plan includes 
> 24/7 
> roadside assistance -- kind of a weird extra, but also a pretty nice perk 
> if 
> you don't already have AAA or the like. 
> Rok who-now? 
> Rok Mobile has been around for a few years; the carrier's early claim to 
> fame was a bundled music-streaming service, but that option is no more. 
> Instead, you're basically scoring Sprint's $50-a-month plan for $45 a 
> month 
> and getting the aforementioned tow-truck benefit. 
> That plan includes unlimited voice minutes, text messages and 4G LTE data. 
> Is the data really unlimited, though? Rok "may reduce to slower speeds 
> after 
> 20GB of LTE usage," according to a company rep. That's a common practice; 
> I'm pretty sure Sprint does likewise after 22GB. 
> Another common practice: Rok's "Data Stretcher" streams video at a lower 
> resolution so you consume less data. Curiously, however, this works only 
> on 
> Android devices, according to the carrier's FAQ page. 
> Speaking of phones, you should be able to bring any unlocked, 
> CDMA-compatible model to Rok, though of course you'll need to do an 
> IMEI-number check before signing up. It's worth noting that many modern 
> phones (Google Nexuses, some Samsung Galaxys, late-model iPhones, and so 
> on) 
> can work on both GSM and CDMA networks, so if you were previously with a 
> GSM 
> carrier, you should be able to make the move. 
> Deal or no deal? 
> The other consideration, of course, is coverage. For many users (myself 
> included), Sprint coverage is, um, not excellent. Rok notes that it now 
> leverages both Sprint and "the nation's most reliable other CDMA network," 
> which is MVNO-speak for "Verizon." 
> This particular plan is specifically identified as a "Sprint Unlimited," 
> however, which suggests to me that you'll be limited to Sprint's network 
> only. I asked Rok for clarification on that; the answer I got was a little 
> vague. 
> But here's the beauty of no-contract services like this: You try it out 
> for 
> a month or two, and if you're not happy, you move on. 
> Your thoughts? 
> Bonus deal: It's not exactly an impulse buy, but if you've had your eye on 
> a 
> big iPad, here's a significant savings: For a limited time, and while 
> supplies last, BuySpry (via eBay) has the Apple iPad Pro 12.9 256GB Wi-Fi 
> + 
> Cellular for $799.99 shipped. Apple charges $1,029. 
>   
> Pull in local stations (hopefully) with this amplified antenna. 
> Vansky 
> What's the catch? These are new, sealed iPads, but apparently they're also 
> the "European model with US charger" -- meaning no discernible difference 
> from the US model, at least according to the seller. And it comes with a 
> full Apple warranty. So if you want the premium, loaded iPad Pro 12.9 for 
> the price of the entry-level model, here you go! 
> Bonus deal No. 2: Ditching cable usually means ditching local channels -- 
> unless you connect an antenna and take advantage of your TV's built-in 
> tuner. (You remember antennas and tuners, right?) 
> OK, but can one of those flat, plastic antennas really do the job? Depends 
> on where you live, how the antenna is positioned and other variables. But 
> here's your chance to test-drive the setup on the cheap: Vansky's 
> transparent indoor amplified antenna is $16.99 shipped (with Prime) when 
> you 
> apply promo code IIJUEF17 at checkout. 
> Promising to pull in channels up to 50 miles away, this mostly see-through 
> antenna will work best when mounted high up on a window. How 

RE: WiFi thermostats

[Rick Alfaro]

Richard,

 

Are you able to setup your own schedule via the app independently when using 
the TCC app?

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WiFi thermostats

 

 

rick, 

The honeywell app works very well. The only thing I really wish was exposed to 
VoiceOver is the current inside/outside temperature reading. You can use the 
voice button and ask, but that is a bit hit and miss. 

I like the fact that you can make adjustments from anywhere.

Richard

 





(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)


On Oct 22, 2017, at 12:51 PM, Rick Alfaro  > wrote:

Chip, thanks for the great summary. So far I’m leaning to the Honeywell 
RTH9585WF1004 since it’s app looks to be at least somewhat workable. The 
Ecobee4 looked interesting but I found the demo mode in the app to mostly be 
inaccessible with no way to interact with the controls with VO.

 

The skill you mentioned sounds very interesting. Is there any skill available 
that will allow you to create schedules? Also, how much can you really do via 
the Echo or Siri? I get the feeling it’s quite limited.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 3:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: WiFi thermostats

 

I have several years of experience with the Nest thermostats:  we own two, and 
we have two Nest smoke detectors as well (primarily because they will call your 
phone if an emergency occurs at home).

 

The Nest app is moderately accessible … I have not been able to set schedules 
using it.  Also, if the thermostat has a problem connecting to your wifi, or 
via the internet to the Nest main servers, it will display error messages only 
on the thermostat (which you usually have to have sighted help to deal with).

 

You could get around the inability to set schedules by use of the “learning” 
feature (having your installer clear all learning after installation and 
testing is very helpful).  Each time you make an adjustment to the temp, the 
idea is that if it sees you do this repeatedly it will make a schedule for you.

 

My wife found it confusing when it would suddenly make a temperature setting 
change without explanation, so we eventually turned off learning (I guess it’s 
a personal preference).

 

It’s very nice that the Nest will manage humidity in a home which has a 
two-speed or a variable speed system.  It does this by running the system at 
slower speeds when the humidity rises too high.  Even with a standard single 
speed system the Nest will manage humidity by “over-cooling” up to 4 degrees if 
you enable this feature.  However, it takes sighted assistance to adjust the 
humidity level setting (it’s not something you usually ever adjust again 
however).

 

It’s a very good idea to get an installer who is certified as a “Nest Pro”, so 
ask them.  Turns out my installer was not, and I am still arguing with them, 
and trying to teach them about Nest features.  Their one employee who 
understood Nest thermostats has left them.

 

If you have both Nest thermostats and smoke detectors, if you have any smoke 
the detectors will cause your heating or air conditioning to shut off to stop 
the spread of smoke … a nice feature.  Their smoke detectors report the problem 
with a recorded voice announcement, along with its location, such as “low 
battery in the dining room” or “smoke in the up stairs”, so this is also nice.  
They self test themselves monthly, and report the results to you via the app.

 

While the ability to control Nest thermostats is built into the Echo, I use a 
third party Skill called “The Thermostat” because it allows me to ask it what 
is the humidity in the up stairs, and other such additional questions and 
commands, so you may want to look into this skill as it works with many models.

 

Hth,

 

Chip

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Alfaro
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 1:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: WiFi thermostats

 

Hello listers. I know this topic has been discussed several times on this list. 
At the time I had a functioning WiFi thermostat from Radio Thermostats known as 
the Filtreet CT50. 

 

Unfortunately, it’s bitten the dust and no longer connects to my network, even 
not after long hours of trouble shooting including the wiring. It’s time for me 
to move on so I’d like to purchase a thermostat that works with Alexa. The one 
I’ve seen on Amazon is the Ecobee3 lite second gen for $168 via Prime shipping. 
Of course the real issue is whether or not it’s IOS app is workable with 
VoiceOver. If anyone has had any 

Re: Itselfinity mobile question

[Lisa Soulor]

My husband and I just signed up with Xfinity Mobile. We are saving $25
a month from what we were paying with Verizon. The service has been
exactly the same as Verizon's, no quality change. You do have to buy
phones from them, you cannot take your old phone to them. We did need
to upgrade so we each got an Iphone 7. I would highly recommend this
service, I am so glad we switched.
Lisa

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Xfinity mobile question

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Hi everyone, now that Xfinity has xfinity  mobile, is anyone who has Comcast 
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keyboard issue after apparent forced upgrade

['Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone]

I have an amazon basics keyboard connected to the phone. Under Bluetooth 
settings, it Identifies as a KT1281. After the upgrade, I no longer have a 
number of the f key functions such as f1 twice to get to the app switcher. Is 
this a bug or is this keyboard no longer compatible with IOS11? Also how do I 
go about deleting messages from the messages app without having to stand on my 
head? When I select delete and invoke it with either a finger or the keyboard, 
The message does not appear to delete. What might I be missing or, is this also 
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Re: can we ask the developer to make this games accessible

['鍾 智明' via VIPhone]

Well, I don’t know! Maybe we can send them a email or things like it, and asked 
them to do something for it, I think it will be great when it is accessible for 
voiceover or something like it

Ming
Skype: chungchiming9950


> lenron brown  於 2017年10月23日 下午6:04 寫道：
> 
> Ok so you would think this game would be totally accessible.
> 
>> On 10/23/17, 'Ming' via VIPhone  wrote:
>> it's sounds like  an audio games for IOS! but, it's not accessible  at all.
>> 
>> The virtual reality game only using auditory sense without visual sight
>> released.
>> 
>> It is the binaural sound horror game “Zombie Audio” that killing unexpected
>> creatures depending on hearing instead of opening eyes.
>> 
>> As the game “Zombie Audio” is an auditory-dependent virtual reality game,
>> users can have an astonishing experience that zombies are right next to them
>> while playing it with closed eyes.
>> 
>> Considering the fact that almost every game these days is produced to use
>> visual sight main sense, “Zombie audio” has differentiated competitiveness.
>> 
>> Anyone can experience the vivid virtual reality from hearing by using
>> ear-phones(also by head-phones).
>> 
>> The game is about the story of the main character, who is visually impaired,
>> surviving in the world occupied by zombies. As he survives depending only on
>> hearing, users may play it with closed eyes and be part of the story
>> themselves.
>> 
>> Be all ears, be the virtual reality unfolded. Be fascinated by the unusual
>> experience playing “Zombie Audio.”
>> 
>> Genre : Binaural Sound Horror Game
>> 
>> Warnings:
>> The pregnant lady, the old and the infirm, and the mentally or physically
>> weak person should refrain from playing this game!
>> It might be dangerous playing in motion.
>> ...More
>> Zombie Audio(VR Game English ver.) Support
>> What's New in Version 1.1
>> minor bug fix
>> app store link:
>> https://itunes.apple.com/za/app/zombie-audio-vr-game-english-ver/id1060539051?mt=8=uo%3D8
>> Ming
>> msn/window live messenger
>> chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com
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>> chungchiming9950
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Re: can we ask the developer to make this games accessible

[lenron brown]

Ok so you would think this game would be totally accessible.

On 10/23/17, 'Ming' via VIPhone  wrote:
> it's sounds like  an audio games for IOS! but, it's not accessible  at all.
>
> The virtual reality game only using auditory sense without visual sight
> released.
>
> It is the binaural sound horror game “Zombie Audio” that killing unexpected
> creatures depending on hearing instead of opening eyes.
>
> As the game “Zombie Audio” is an auditory-dependent virtual reality game,
> users can have an astonishing experience that zombies are right next to them
> while playing it with closed eyes.
>
> Considering the fact that almost every game these days is produced to use
> visual sight main sense, “Zombie audio” has differentiated competitiveness.
>
> Anyone can experience the vivid virtual reality from hearing by using
> ear-phones(also by head-phones).
>
> The game is about the story of the main character, who is visually impaired,
> surviving in the world occupied by zombies. As he survives depending only on
> hearing, users may play it with closed eyes and be part of the story
> themselves.
>
> Be all ears, be the virtual reality unfolded. Be fascinated by the unusual
> experience playing “Zombie Audio.”
>
> Genre : Binaural Sound Horror Game
>
> Warnings:
> The pregnant lady, the old and the infirm, and the mentally or physically
> weak person should refrain from playing this game!
> It might be dangerous playing in motion.
> ...More
> Zombie Audio(VR Game English ver.) Support
> What's New in Version 1.1
> minor bug fix
> app store link:
> https://itunes.apple.com/za/app/zombie-audio-vr-game-english-ver/id1060539051?mt=8=uo%3D8
> Ming
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>  chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com
>  skype:
>  chungchiming9950
>
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>  http://www.facebook.com/mingcm1
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can we ask the developer to make this games accessible

['Ming' via VIPhone]

it's sounds like  an audio games for IOS! but, it's not accessible  at all.

The virtual reality game only using auditory sense without visual sight 
released.

It is the binaural sound horror game “Zombie Audio” that killing unexpected 
creatures depending on hearing instead of opening eyes. 

As the game “Zombie Audio” is an auditory-dependent virtual reality game, users 
can have an astonishing experience that zombies are right next to them while 
playing it with closed eyes. 

Considering the fact that almost every game these days is produced to use 
visual sight main sense, “Zombie audio” has differentiated competitiveness. 
Anyone can experience the vivid virtual reality from hearing by using 
ear-phones(also by head-phones).

The game is about the story of the main character, who is visually impaired, 
surviving in the world occupied by zombies. As he survives depending only on 
hearing, users may play it with closed eyes and be part of the story themselves.

Be all ears, be the virtual reality unfolded. Be fascinated by the unusual 
experience playing “Zombie Audio.” 

Genre : Binaural Sound Horror Game

Warnings: 
The pregnant lady, the old and the infirm, and the mentally or physically weak 
person should refrain from playing this game!
It might be dangerous playing in motion.
...More
Zombie Audio(VR Game English ver.) Support
What's New in Version 1.1
minor bug fix
app store link:
https://itunes.apple.com/za/app/zombie-audio-vr-game-english-ver/id1060539051?mt=8=uo%3D8
Ming
 msn/window live messenger
 chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com
 skype:
 chungchiming9950
 
 face book:
 http://www.facebook.com/mingcm1

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Re: how to use WhatsApp for a particular purpose

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

hi,
Thanks for this info. Can I also use the group functionality for multiway 
telephone conversations?
thanks, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 22 Oct 2017, at 20:29, Chip Orange  wrote:
> 
> I use the group feature of WhatsApp quite a bit ... in concept it's very much 
> like this mailing list, except each of us in the group leaves voice messages 
> instead of email messages to the group.
> 
> This might be a good way to offer lessons of any kind, as each less would go 
> out to the entire group, who could also hear any questions.
> 
> When recording long voice messages you may want to know that there is an 
> alternative to holding your finger down on the voice message button (which is 
> the usual way to record a message).  The alternative is to start the message 
> by holding your finger down, then use your other hand to turn off voice over 
> and then turn it back on.  As soon as you turn voice over off you can release 
> your finger from the voice message button and it will continue recording.  
> You can verify this by looking for a timer which is at the bottom of the 
> screen near the voice message button.
> 
> To stop the recording you give the voice message button a double tap.
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: how to use WhatsApp for a particular purpose
> 
> hello,
> Somewhat impetuously, I have offered to teach English to various people 
> around the world using WhatsApp. I have used this app for a while now, but, 
> Millie to receive messages and reply to them. I have a list of, say, eight 
> people, with their phone numbers, who wish to avail of my services. Wilde we 
> would be a group, as such, I am thinking that the calls would be on an 
> individual basis. am I right in assuming one can use WhatsApp in the same way 
> that one can use Skype? so, we can chat away as with a normal phone call? 
> would there be any point in me setting up a group? it might be easier to keep 
> tabs of the various calls and people, but not sure about that… in fact, I 
> almost wish I hadn’t volunteered, I don’t really know how to go about this. 
> can anyone give me some tips as to how to organise this via the app?
> 
> thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
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Re: four finger swipe for moving between apps?

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

hi,
Assuming you have your phone set to portrait locked, when in a nap, with other 
apps open as well, turn your phone to landscape and try the gesture moving for 
fingers from top to bottom or bottom to top. this was how I first got 
successful with the gesture and now can use it with the phone in any position. 
sometimes, it helps to touch the middle of the screen first, to ensure the 
children the content of the app. but I’m not sure this is necessary. One word 
of warning, with the latest update, if you go past the first open app, you may 
get thrown back onto the home screen. One final point, my hands are reasonably 
small and I am using an iPhone 6, whereas, when I use the same gesture on my 
old for S, it can be more difficult to achieve. The phone really does need to 
see all four fingertips. all the forefinger gestures are more tricky because of 
this.

hope this helps you a little, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 22 Oct 2017, at 13:33, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Can someone please tell me how to accomplish this.
> I can’t get it to work.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2017, at 6:53 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> hi,
>> Thanks for the responses, it is now working for me again, after, yet one 
>> more, 
>> thanks, Sandy reset.
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 20 Oct 2017, at 13:10, Godwin Adoyi  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's working here. I use it everyday.
>>> 
>>> Godwin Adoyi Agada
>>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>>> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 11:54:54 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: four finger swipe for moving between apps?
>>>  
>>> hi,
>>> I am using 11.02 and find I can no longer use the four finger swipe to swap 
>>> between open apps. has this functionality gone or changed in some way? I 
>>> have to use the app switcher instead, which is much more of a bother.
>>> 
>>> thanks, Sandy
>>> 
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
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