Re: Beta list

[Marie]

Thanks much
Marie


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  Could someone post the address to subscribe to the Apple Beta List?
  Thanks,
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Re: Beta list

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Could someone post the address to subscribe to the Apple Beta List?
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Beta list

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Could someone post the address to subscribe to the Apple Beta List?
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Re: No one use VPN?

[l . d . ethier23]

Thanks to took time to answer

Lyne

> Le 5 août 2019 à 11:44, Wayne Merritt  a écrit :
> 
> Hello. I don't use VPN often, but have tried 2 that work well.
> Windscribe and Tunnel Bear are both free. Windscribe offers up to 10
> gigs free if you enter your email address. Tunnel Bear offers up to
> 500 megabytes for free I think, but it is easy to setup and meant to
> offer a lot of features and protection with not a lot of fuss, for
> those who want a simple experience. Both are accessible and work
> fairly well.
> 
> Good luck,
> Wayne
> 
>> On 8/4/19, l.d.ethie...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I asked my question again, witch VPN is accessible with voiceover and easy
>> to set?
>> Thank you
>> 
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RE: Siri won't give me time to ask a question

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

Not running a beta, but I do notice that if I’ve got my phone in my pocket and 
either press the home button for Siri to come up or say hey Siri, and don’t 
pull the phone out of my pocket quick enough, I’ll get that second beep 
notification that the dictation window has stopped. This isn’t the case if the 
phone’s on my desk or flat on the table etc. Maybe it’s got something to do 
with the motion sensor to avoid accidentally triggering Siri or something.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2019 12:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri won't give me time to ask a question

 

Sorry, I didn’t check carefully and thought this was the Apple Beta list I am 
also on as is Richard.

Anyways, there is no point in getting too upset, iOS 13 is in Beta and a number 
of things don’t work correctly as is often the case with Beta software. It is 
quite possible l be fixed and there is again the SIRI sound when you push the 
home button, yes, if you say Hey SIRI the sound is there. I’ll now say no more 
on this list about the Beta.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dave 
Jones
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2019 8:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Siri won't give me time to ask a question

 

 Hold the button down until you are finished speaking to Siri. 

 

On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 10:29 AM Joshua Hendrickson mailto:louv...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I agree, that is a dumb thing to do on apples part.  Please tell me,
that if you use hey siri, that you still hear the siri sound.  I use
that more then holding the home button.

On 8/5/19, englishride...@gmail.com   
mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> Sieghard, there really is no more Siri sound unless you wear a headset? I
> think this is kind of a stupid move on Apple's part. Did they at least
> replace the auditory feedback with a vibration or something? Sheesh, Apple!
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ari
>
>> On Aug 5, 2019, at 3:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel >  > wrote:
>>
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> You don't have to hold the home button. It's a bit of a pain in iOS 13
>> because unless you use a headset there is no SIRI sound, but I usually
>> just press and hold the home button for maybe 2 seconds, then I tell SIRI
>> what I want and it works fine.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 1:26 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> Subject: Re: Siri won't give me time to ask a question
>>
>> You have to hold the home button if you are not using Hey Siri, unless you
>> know a setting I do not.
>> Also, that sounds to me like a resource issue" Clear everything from the
>> app switcher, and reboot the phone.
>> If all else fails, call Apple Accessibility 877-204-3930
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology
>> is indistinguishable from magic."
>> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
>> www.turner42.com  
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 4, 2019, at 9:52 AM, Janet Bell >>  > wrote:
>>>
>>> you don't have to hold the hope button but maybe it depends on what
>>> phone you have.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Fanus Buys
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 5:14 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>>> Subject: RE: Siri won't give me time to ask a question
>>>
>>> That's exactly what I do but while holding the home button Siri won't let
>>> me finish the question.
>>> Regards
>>> Fanus
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  ] On
>>> Behalf Of David Redman
>>> Sent: Sunday, 04 August 2019 16:23
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>>> Subject: Re: Siri won't give me time to ask a question
>>>
>>> Press and hold the home button while you ask Siri what you want then
>>> release it when you’re done.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Aug 4, 2019, at 7:19 AM, Richard Turner >>>  >
 wrote:

 First, close all apps from the app switcher, and reboot your phone.
 Then, try again. If that doesn't work, explain exactly what steps you
 use to get Siri listening? Hey Siri, or holding the home button?
 I suspect the reboot will fix it.


 Richard

 Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology
 is indistinguishable from magic."
 (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
 

How do You Use Apple Pay?

[dani pagador]

Morning, All.
Subject line says it all. I know I have a credit card number in my
phone associated with my Apple ID for paying for music and app
purchases.,I don't  know how to use Apple Pay, though I see it as an
option in the Messages app. Is the credit card also associated with
Apple Pay?  Can someone give me a run-down on how the service works?

Thanks,
Dani

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Re: Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical Trainer

[Andy Baracco]

It is aerobic training.  It is designed primarily for those who have issues 
with standing and walking, but who want to stay fit.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Deb Cook Lewis 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 11:55 AM
  Subject: RE: Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical 
Trainer


  Yeah this is tough, LOL. With the sale, they’re $200 difference.

  So when you say you can sync it, does it give you any data that an Apple 
Watch wouldn’t already pick up? Obviously my watch is going to record it as 
activity. But my sister thought it might be more strength training than 
aerobic. 

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Aleeha Dudley
  Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 11:49 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical 
Trainer

   

  I’m not certain. Honestly, I’d probably be fine without the connectivity, but 
I’m a geek and love things that connect together.

  Aleeha 





On Aug 5, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:

 

So as I understand it, the only difference in the two machines is the app 
support. If that’s true, do you think having the app is worthwhile or would you 
be just as happy with the machine by itself. I know that’s always subjective, 
but I’m really struggling with this. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Aleeha Dudley
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical 
Trainer

 

Hi, 

I can get the app to sync, but it’s not the most accessible thing in the 
world. I bought the smart one, and really like it, but the app just isn’t great.

Aleeha Dudley 






  On Aug 5, 2019, at 1:13 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:

   

  Amazon’s deal of the day is the not smart version of the Cubii under desk 
elliptical trainer. The smart one, for $200 more, has an app that logs your 
data to the Health app etc. I might be willing to spring for the expensive one 
if I had reasonable certainty that the app is useable at least. But I can’t 
tell without a device. Has anyone used this app and have comments? 

  If I don’t determine that it is somewhat accessible, I’ll probably get 
the dumbed down version because my Apple watch will still record it. But using 
the app might be fun. I’m not interested in group stuff with it, just tracking 
my own data reasonably accurately.

  Thanks for any thoguhts.

   

  Deb

   

   

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RE: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Well, I know my Mom’s experience and maybe that is because one border collie 
probably produces a lot more fur than 3 cats, also I guess it depends on the 
size of the house and how much stuff you have. I have been there when my Mom 
had her Neato running and sometimes there is no explanation why it goes where 
it goes, here it seems to do the main open area of the living room in an 
efficient pattern only to suddenly drive off to vacuum in front of the couch 
where it drives back and forth more than it needs to and then it goes off into 
the kitchen or elsewhere only to come back in the living room and do some of 
what it did before all over again. Maybe it can’t get it’s orientation right, 
my parents house is a log home and the living room has a 16 or 18 foot vaulted 
ceiling, my Mom says often when it’s in her bedroom which at about 25 feet by 
15 feet is also large, it does a better job than in the rest of the house.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cher 
Bosch
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2019 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato 
robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, 
August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s

It really is easy to clean though. We have 3 cats and in their favorite hangout 
rooms, the fur does accumulate enough to dump the dirt bin and clean the 
brushes. However this is very quick and easy. the reason the fur fills the bin 
and roller so quickly is because the Neato does such an outstanding job of 
sucking up pet hair. There is no comparison to the huge amount of hair picked 
up by our Neato with that picked up by our old powerful industrial class 
upright! We love the amazing mapping feature of our Neato also compared to the 
“bump and turn” random motion of others. The mapping allows Neato to finish a 
job in a fraction of the time of the round bounce-off-the-walls-and-furniture” 
type. And… it’s quiet!

Cher



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 2:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato 
robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, 
August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s

The claim of “easy to clean” is debatable. My Mom has one and while her border 
collie has now gone to doggie heaven, when she still had him she said she 
pretty much had to take the thing apart after at least every cleaning/use and 
completely clean out the brushes and everything or it would  not function 
properly. In fact, I used to want one of these but after her experience I 
decided these were maybe not quite ready for prime time.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato robotic 
vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, August 02, 
2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s


Neato robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely 
Friday, August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)




Neato, a company that specializes in robotic vacuums, has announced that it 
will be adding in support for Siri shortcuts in the fall. If you've got 
yourself a Neato vacuum, soon you'll be able to use Siri Shortcuts for remote 
control. Users will be able to issue voice commands to tell their Neato vacuum 
to begin a preset cleaning cycle, stop cleaning, or set up shortcuts to tell 
the vacuum to clean a specific area. Users will also be able to send the vacuum 
to the charging base via Siri Shortcut as well. If you're not the type to talk 
to your vacuum, the Neato robot vacuum will attempt to to learn when and where 
to sweep and offer lock-screen suggestions. There's no specific time frame for 
when this update will release. Neato has stated this update will roll out with 
a firmware update set to release this fall, likely following the release of iOS 
13 and macOS Catalina. All of Neato's current vacuums are set to get the 
update. Neato vacuums currently work with myriad services, including an Apple 
Watch app, Wear OS services, Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant, and even through 
Facebook Messenger. Siri Shortcuts debuted in iOS 12 in 2018 . The system was 
built from Workflow, an app that Apple purchased in 2017 , Shortcuts delivers 
app and system control options through a drag-and-drop card UI, that can be 
invoked by Siri. AppleInsider reviewed the Neato Botvac Connected back in 2016, 
and found it to be one of the best robot vacuum cleaners available on the 
market. In addition to offering controls via iPhone and Apple Watch, it also 
supports complex scheduling functions, cleans very well, and is easy to empty 
and clean. .
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Re: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s

[Kay Malmquist]

Which Neato do you have and would you recommend one over another and if so, 
why?

,Daily memo;
Handle  stress  like  a dog, if you can not eat it, or play with it,
pee on it and walk  away!!

Kay malmquist
Skype name:  kayleebuttercup
Email: kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

  - Original Message - 
  From: Cher Bosch
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 12:54 PM
  Subject: RE: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato 
robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, 
August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s


  It really is easy to clean though. We have 3 cats and in their favorite 
hangout rooms, the fur does accumulate enough to dump the dirt bin and clean 
the brushes. However this is very quick and easy. the reason the fur fills 
the bin and roller so quickly is because the Neato does such an outstanding 
job of sucking up pet hair. There is no comparison to the huge amount of 
hair picked up by our Neato with that picked up by our old powerful 
industrial class upright! We love the amazing mapping feature of our Neato 
also compared to the “bump and turn” random motion of others. The mapping 
allows Neato to finish a job in a fraction of the time of the round 
bounce-off-the-walls-and-furniture” type. And… it’s quiet!



  Cher







  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 2:17 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato 
robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, 
August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s



  The claim of “easy to clean” is debatable. My Mom has one and while her 
border collie has now gone to doggie heaven, when she still had him she said 
she pretty much had to take the thing apart after at least every 
cleaning/use and completely clean out the brushes and everything or it would 
not function properly. In fact, I used to want one of these but after her 
experience I decided these were maybe not quite ready for prime time.



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 7:03 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato 
robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, 
August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s



  Neato robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely 
Friday, August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)





  Neato, a company that specializes in robotic vacuums, has announced that 
it will be adding in support for Siri shortcuts in the fall. If you've got 
yourself a Neato vacuum, soon you'll be able to use Siri Shortcuts for 
remote control. Users will be able to issue voice commands to tell their 
Neato vacuum to begin a preset cleaning cycle, stop cleaning, or set up 
shortcuts to tell the vacuum to clean a specific area. Users will also be 
able to send the vacuum to the charging base via Siri Shortcut as well. If 
you're not the type to talk to your vacuum, the Neato robot vacuum will 
attempt to to learn when and where to sweep and offer lock-screen 
suggestions. There's no specific time frame for when this update will 
release. Neato has stated this update will roll out with a firmware update 
set to release this fall, likely following the release of iOS 13 and macOS 
Catalina. All of Neato's current vacuums are set to get the update. Neato 
vacuums currently work with myriad services, including an Apple Watch app, 
Wear OS services, Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant, and even through Facebook 
Messenger. Siri Shortcuts debuted in iOS 12 in 2018 . The system was built 
from Workflow, an app that Apple purchased in 2017 , Shortcuts delivers app 
and system control options through a drag-and-drop card UI, that can be 
invoked by Siri. AppleInsider reviewed the Neato Botvac Connected back in 
2016, and found it to be one of the best robot vacuum cleaners available on 
the market. In addition to offering controls via iPhone and Apple Watch, it 
also supports complex scheduling functions, cleans very well, and is easy to 
empty and clean. .

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RE: Siri won't give me time to ask a question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Sorry, I didn’t check carefully and thought this was the Apple Beta list I am 
also on as is Richard.
Anyways, there is no point in getting too upset, iOS 13 is in Beta and a number 
of things don’t work correctly as is often the case with Beta software. It is 
quite possible l be fixed and there is again the SIRI sound when you push the 
home button, yes, if you say Hey SIRI the sound is there. I’ll now say no more 
on this list about the Beta.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
Jones
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2019 8:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri won't give me time to ask a question

 Hold the button down until you are finished speaking to Siri.

On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 10:29 AM Joshua Hendrickson 
mailto:louv...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I agree, that is a dumb thing to do on apples part.  Please tell me,
that if you use hey siri, that you still hear the siri sound.  I use
that more then holding the home button.

On 8/5/19, englishride...@gmail.com 
mailto:englishride...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Sieghard, there really is no more Siri sound unless you wear a headset? I
> think this is kind of a stupid move on Apple's part. Did they at least
> replace the auditory feedback with a vibration or something? Sheesh, Apple!
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ari
>
>> On Aug 5, 2019, at 3:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> You don't have to hold the home button. It's a bit of a pain in iOS 13
>> because unless you use a headset there is no SIRI sound, but I usually
>> just press and hold the home button for maybe 2 seconds, then I tell SIRI
>> what I want and it works fine.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 1:26 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Siri won't give me time to ask a question
>>
>> You have to hold the home button if you are not using Hey Siri, unless you
>> know a setting I do not.
>> Also, that sounds to me like a resource issue" Clear everything from the
>> app switcher, and reboot the phone.
>> If all else fails, call Apple Accessibility 877-204-3930
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology
>> is indistinguishable from magic."
>> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
>> www.turner42.com
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>>
>>> On Aug 4, 2019, at 9:52 AM, Janet Bell 
>>> mailto:ja...@jan25.plus.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> you don't have to hold the hope button but maybe it depends on what
>>> phone you have.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Fanus Buys
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 5:14 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Siri won't give me time to ask a question
>>>
>>> That's exactly what I do but while holding the home button Siri won't let
>>> me finish the question.
>>> Regards
>>> Fanus
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of David Redman
>>> Sent: Sunday, 04 August 2019 16:23
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Siri won't give me time to ask a question
>>>
>>> Press and hold the home button while you ask Siri what you want then
>>> release it when you’re done.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Aug 4, 2019, at 7:19 AM, Richard Turner 
 mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>>
 wrote:

 First, close all apps from the app switcher, and reboot your phone.
 Then, try again. If that doesn't work, explain exactly what steps you
 use to get Siri listening? Hey Siri, or holding the home button?
 I suspect the reboot will fix it.


 Richard

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>> On Aug 4, 2019, at 7:15 AM, Fanus Buys 
>> mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hello list
> When I activate Siri and start to ask a question she just plays the
> sound and then says she doesn't know i.e. she does not wait for me
> to complete the question. This is on an iPhone 7 with IOS 12.4. Has
> anyone experienced this?
> Regards
> Fanus
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Re: Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical Trainer

[Aleeha Dudley]

It can capture a little more accurately than the watch. It’s not meant to be in 
depth cardio, I can certainly get sweaty while using it, but it’s not meant for 
that. It’s more meant to keep you active throughout the day. 
Aleeha 

> On Aug 5, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
> 
> Yeah this is tough, LOL. With the sale, they’re $200 difference.
> So when you say you can sync it, does it give you any data that an Apple 
> Watch wouldn’t already pick up? Obviously my watch is going to record it as 
> activity. But my sister thought it might be more strength training than 
> aerobic. 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Aleeha Dudley
> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 11:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical 
> Trainer
>  
> I’m not certain. Honestly, I’d probably be fine without the connectivity, but 
> I’m a geek and love things that connect together.
> Aleeha 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Deb Cook Lewis > > wrote:
>>  
>> So as I understand it, the only difference in the two machines is the app 
>> support. If that’s true, do you think having the app is worthwhile or would 
>> you be just as happy with the machine by itself. I know that’s always 
>> subjective, but I’m really struggling with this. 
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Aleeha Dudley
>> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 11:23 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical 
>> Trainer
>>  
>> Hi, 
>> I can get the app to sync, but it’s not the most accessible thing in the 
>> world. I bought the smart one, and really like it, but the app just isn’t 
>> great.
>> Aleeha Dudley 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 5, 2019, at 1:13 PM, Deb Cook Lewis >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> Amazon’s deal of the day is the not smart version of the Cubii under desk 
>>> elliptical trainer. The smart one, for $200 more, has an app that logs your 
>>> data to the Health app etc. I might be willing to spring for the expensive 
>>> one if I had reasonable certainty that the app is useable at least. But I 
>>> can’t tell without a device. Has anyone used this app and have comments? 
>>> If I don’t determine that it is somewhat accessible, I’ll probably get the 
>>> dumbed down version because my Apple watch will still record it. But using 
>>> the app might be fun. I’m not interested in group stuff with it, just 
>>> tracking my own data reasonably accurately.
>>> Thanks for any thoguhts.
>>>  
>>> Deb
>>>  
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RE: Sonos and Ikea partner up - the result: Symfonisk WiFi Table lamp and bookshelf Speakers

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Fanus,

No, the Google Assistant is relatively new to Sonos and you must add it to the 
Sonos One. You must also have the Google Assistant app on your phone to 
complete the setup.

Yes, Canada is very large, after Russia it is the second largest country in the 
world and one of the least populated, total population is about 37 Million 
compared to I believe a bit over 56 Million for South Africa.
As for size, Canada has 9,985,000 square Kilometers, Russia is still a lot 
larger at just over 17 Million square kilometers, the US comes in at 9,834,000 
square kilometers so not all that much different from Canada.
South Africa has a bit over 1.2 Million square kilometers which is slightly 
larger than the province of British Columbia where I live which is 944,735 
square kilometers but with a population of only just under 5 Million and 80% of 
them live in the Vancouver area and Vancouver Island. I live in a small town 
called Smithers in northwestern British Columbia with a population of about 
6,000, driving distance to Vancouver is about 1,200 Km and it’s about 400 Km to 
the next larger city with a population of about 60,000. The coordinates are 
54.7824 degrees North and 127.1686 degrees West. Strictly in terms of latitude 
we are a bit further north than Hamburg Germany which is northern Germany, 
Moscow in Russia is maybe a degree or so (100 Km) further North. 40% of 
Canada’s land mass are made of up our 3 northern Territories, Yukon, Northwest 
and Nunavut, combined population in those approx. 3.8 Million square kilometers 
is less than 120,000 and of those almost half live in the capital cities of 
each of those territories.

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2019 1:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos and Ikea partner up - the result: Symfonisk WiFi Table lamp 
and bookshelf Speakers

Hello Sieghard
Thanks for the info. Alexa is not yet available here but your instructions for 
volume up and down and play and pause are spot on. Is google assistant built 
into the Sonos One or must I set it up? Bye the way, I am very interested in 
location of places so I did not realize that Canada is such a large country. 
What are your coordinates so that I can locate it in my mind and then it lets 
me imagine I can “see” your town. I use my perkins brailler and coordinates to 
make maps of countries and although the scale is not 100% I get a fair 
indication of locations. I have not yet made a Canada map but I would like to 
plot your town when I get to the Canada map.
Regards
Fanus



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, 04 August 2019 19:38
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos and Ikea partner up - the result: Symfonisk WiFi Table lamp 
and bookshelf Speakers

Hi Fanus,

No, I have not heard either the Ikea bookshelf or speaker/lamp. The next Ikea 
for me is in Vancouver which is 1,200 Km away. If I get to Vancouver or another 
ccity with an Ikea next time I’ll try to find the time to check them out.

I don’t use the touch controls on the Sonos One much except for maybe turning 
the volume up or down or to pause playback if Alexa or the Google Assistant 
fail to hear me. I can usually do the volume fairly consistently, the area you 
touch is about half way from front to back and towards the left edge of the 
speaker is volume down and towards the right edge is volume up. Play/Pause is 
in the middle.
Towards the back of the speaker I think about in the middle left to right is a 
button which let’s you turn off the microphone and I think there maybe one 
which you can press to make the assistant listen in case you don’t want to say 
the wake word.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 4:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos and Ikea partner up - the result: Symfonisk WiFi Table lamp 
and bookshelf Speakers

Hello Sieghard
Thanks for informing us. Have you perhaps hat a chance to listen to an Ikea 
Speaker to compare the quality with Sonos? Secondly, can you please remind me 
and others of the touch buttons and swipes one can use on the Sonos One speaker?
Regards
Fanus


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 02 August 2019 19:35
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sonos and Ikea partner up - the result: Symfonisk WiFi Table lamp and 
bookshelf Speakers

For the Sonos fans out there who haven’t heard yet, you can now buy a speaker 
which integrates into your Sonos system from Ikea. You can even get a table 
lamp with a built-in speaker. These don’t appear 

RE: Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical Trainer

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Yeah this is tough, LOL. With the sale, they’re $200 difference.

So when you say you can sync it, does it give you any data that an Apple Watch 
wouldn’t already pick up? Obviously my watch is going to record it as activity. 
But my sister thought it might be more strength training than aerobic. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Aleeha Dudley
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 11:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical Trainer

 

I’m not certain. Honestly, I’d probably be fine without the connectivity, but 
I’m a geek and love things that connect together.

Aleeha 





On Aug 5, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Deb Cook Lewis mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

So as I understand it, the only difference in the two machines is the app 
support. If that’s true, do you think having the app is worthwhile or would you 
be just as happy with the machine by itself. I know that’s always subjective, 
but I’m really struggling with this. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Aleeha Dudley
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical Trainer

 

Hi, 

I can get the app to sync, but it’s not the most accessible thing in the world. 
I bought the smart one, and really like it, but the app just isn’t great.

Aleeha Dudley 






On Aug 5, 2019, at 1:13 PM, Deb Cook Lewis <  
deblewi...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Amazon’s deal of the day is the not smart version of the Cubii under desk 
elliptical trainer. The smart one, for $200 more, has an app that logs your 
data to the Health app etc. I might be willing to spring for the expensive one 
if I had reasonable certainty that the app is useable at least. But I can’t 
tell without a device. Has anyone used this app and have comments? 

If I don’t determine that it is somewhat accessible, I’ll probably get the 
dumbed down version because my Apple watch will still record it. But using the 
app might be fun. I’m not interested in group stuff with it, just tracking my 
own data reasonably accurately.

Thanks for any thoguhts.

 

Deb

 

 

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Re: Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical Trainer

[Aleeha Dudley]

I’m not certain. Honestly, I’d probably be fine without the connectivity, but 
I’m a geek and love things that connect together.
Aleeha 

> On Aug 5, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
> 
> So as I understand it, the only difference in the two machines is the app 
> support. If that’s true, do you think having the app is worthwhile or would 
> you be just as happy with the machine by itself. I know that’s always 
> subjective, but I’m really struggling with this. 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Aleeha Dudley
> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 11:23 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical 
> Trainer
>  
> Hi, 
> I can get the app to sync, but it’s not the most accessible thing in the 
> world. I bought the smart one, and really like it, but the app just isn’t 
> great.
> Aleeha Dudley 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2019, at 1:13 PM, Deb Cook Lewis > > wrote:
>>  
>> Amazon’s deal of the day is the not smart version of the Cubii under desk 
>> elliptical trainer. The smart one, for $200 more, has an app that logs your 
>> data to the Health app etc. I might be willing to spring for the expensive 
>> one if I had reasonable certainty that the app is useable at least. But I 
>> can’t tell without a device. Has anyone used this app and have comments? 
>> If I don’t determine that it is somewhat accessible, I’ll probably get the 
>> dumbed down version because my Apple watch will still record it. But using 
>> the app might be fun. I’m not interested in group stuff with it, just 
>> tracking my own data reasonably accurately.
>> Thanks for any thoguhts.
>>  
>> Deb
>>  
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RE: Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical Trainer

[Deb Cook Lewis]

So as I understand it, the only difference in the two machines is the app 
support. If that’s true, do you think having the app is worthwhile or would you 
be just as happy with the machine by itself. I know that’s always subjective, 
but I’m really struggling with this. 

 

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Aleeha Dudley
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical Trainer

 

Hi, 

I can get the app to sync, but it’s not the most accessible thing in the world. 
I bought the smart one, and really like it, but the app just isn’t great.

Aleeha Dudley 





On Aug 5, 2019, at 1:13 PM, Deb Cook Lewis mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Amazon’s deal of the day is the not smart version of the Cubii under desk 
elliptical trainer. The smart one, for $200 more, has an app that logs your 
data to the Health app etc. I might be willing to spring for the expensive one 
if I had reasonable certainty that the app is useable at least. But I can’t 
tell without a device. Has anyone used this app and have comments? 

If I don’t determine that it is somewhat accessible, I’ll probably get the 
dumbed down version because my Apple watch will still record it. But using the 
app might be fun. I’m not interested in group stuff with it, just tracking my 
own data reasonably accurately.

Thanks for any thoguhts.

 

Deb

 

 

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Re: Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical Trainer

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
I can get the app to sync, but it’s not the most accessible thing in the world. 
I bought the smart one, and really like it, but the app just isn’t great.
Aleeha Dudley 

> On Aug 5, 2019, at 1:13 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
> 
> Amazon’s deal of the day is the not smart version of the Cubii under desk 
> elliptical trainer. The smart one, for $200 more, has an app that logs your 
> data to the Health app etc. I might be willing to spring for the expensive 
> one if I had reasonable certainty that the app is useable at least. But I 
> can’t tell without a device. Has anyone used this app and have comments? 
> If I don’t determine that it is somewhat accessible, I’ll probably get the 
> dumbed down version because my Apple watch will still record it. But using 
> the app might be fun. I’m not interested in group stuff with it, just 
> tracking my own data reasonably accurately.
> Thanks for any thoguhts.
>  
> Deb
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Experience with the App for the Cubii Under Desk Elliptical Trainer

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Amazon's deal of the day is the not smart version of the Cubii under desk
elliptical trainer. The smart one, for $200 more, has an app that logs your
data to the Health app etc. I might be willing to spring for the expensive
one if I had reasonable certainty that the app is useable at least. But I
can't tell without a device. Has anyone used this app and have comments? 

If I don't determine that it is somewhat accessible, I'll probably get the
dumbed down version because my Apple watch will still record it. But using
the app might be fun. I'm not interested in group stuff with it, just
tracking my own data reasonably accurately.

Thanks for any thoguhts.

 

Deb

 

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RE: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s

[Cher Bosch]

It takes only a couple of minutes to empty the bin and clean the brushes. This 
is one of the things I love about the Neato.

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 2:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato 
robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, 
August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s

 

That is to bad.  I have read a lot of reviews about them and they are pretty 
favorable.  With having several cats and dogs, that was my complaint about the 
Roomba's I had as well.  Cleaning the brushes and roller took more time then 
the vacuuming did.

 

,Daily memo; 
Handle  stress  like  a dog, if you can not eat it, or play with it,
pee on it and walk  away!!

 

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From: Sieghard Weitzel   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 1:16 PM

Subject: RE: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato 
robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, 
August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s

 

The claim of “easy to clean” is debatable. My Mom has one and while her border 
collie has now gone to doggie heaven, when she still had him she said she 
pretty much had to take the thing apart after at least every cleaning/use and 
completely clean out the brushes and everything or it would  not function 
properly. In fact, I used to want one of these but after her experience I 
decided these were maybe not quite ready for prime time.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato robotic 
vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, August 02, 
2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s

 

Neato robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely 
Friday, August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)

 

 

Neato, a company that specializes in robotic vacuums, has announced that it 
will be adding in support for Siri shortcuts in the fall. If you've got 
yourself a Neato vacuum, soon you'll be able to use Siri Shortcuts for remote 
control. Users will be able to issue voice commands to tell their Neato vacuum 
to begin a preset cleaning cycle, stop cleaning, or set up shortcuts to tell 
the vacuum to clean a specific area. Users will also be able to send the vacuum 
to the charging base via Siri Shortcut as well. If you're not the type to talk 
to your vacuum, the Neato robot vacuum will attempt to to learn when and where 
to sweep and offer lock-screen suggestions. There's no specific time frame for 
when this update will release. Neato has stated this update will roll out with 
a firmware update set to release this fall, likely following the release of iOS 
13 and macOS Catalina. All of Neato's current vacuums are set to get the 
update. Neato vacuums currently work with myriad services, including an Apple 
Watch app, Wear OS services, Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant, and even through 
Facebook Messenger. Siri Shortcuts debuted in iOS 12 in 2018 . The system was 
built from Workflow, an app that Apple purchased in 2017 , Shortcuts delivers 
app and system control options through a drag-and-drop card UI, that can be 
invoked by Siri. AppleInsider reviewed the Neato Botvac Connected back in 2016, 
and found it to be one of the best robot vacuum cleaners available on the 
market. In addition to offering controls via iPhone and Apple Watch, it also 
supports complex scheduling functions, cleans very well, and is easy to empty 
and clean. .

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RE: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s

[Cher Bosch]

It really is easy to clean though. We have 3 cats and in their favorite hangout 
rooms, the fur does accumulate enough to dump the dirt bin and clean the 
brushes. However this is very quick and easy. the reason the fur fills the bin 
and roller so quickly is because the Neato does such an outstanding job of 
sucking up pet hair. There is no comparison to the huge amount of hair picked 
up by our Neato with that picked up by our old powerful industrial class 
upright! We love the amazing mapping feature of our Neato also compared to the 
“bump and turn” random motion of others. The mapping allows Neato to finish a 
job in a fraction of the time of the round bounce-off-the-walls-and-furniture” 
type. And… it’s quiet!

 

Cher

 

 

 

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Weitzel
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 2:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato 
robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, 
August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s

 

The claim of “easy to clean” is debatable. My Mom has one and while her border 
collie has now gone to doggie heaven, when she still had him she said she 
pretty much had to take the thing apart after at least every cleaning/use and 
completely clean out the brushes and everything or it would  not function 
properly. In fact, I used to want one of these but after her experience I 
decided these were maybe not quite ready for prime time.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: From Apple Insideer about Shortcuts and robotic vacuumNeato robotic 
vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely Friday, August 02, 
2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)s

 

Neato robotic vacuums set to get Siri Shortcuts in the fall By Amber Neely 
Friday, August 02, 2019, 04:49 am PT (07:49 am ET)

 

 

Neato, a company that specializes in robotic vacuums, has announced that it 
will be adding in support for Siri shortcuts in the fall. If you've got 
yourself a Neato vacuum, soon you'll be able to use Siri Shortcuts for remote 
control. Users will be able to issue voice commands to tell their Neato vacuum 
to begin a preset cleaning cycle, stop cleaning, or set up shortcuts to tell 
the vacuum to clean a specific area. Users will also be able to send the vacuum 
to the charging base via Siri Shortcut as well. If you're not the type to talk 
to your vacuum, the Neato robot vacuum will attempt to to learn when and where 
to sweep and offer lock-screen suggestions. There's no specific time frame for 
when this update will release. Neato has stated this update will roll out with 
a firmware update set to release this fall, likely following the release of iOS 
13 and macOS Catalina. All of Neato's current vacuums are set to get the 
update. Neato vacuums currently work with myriad services, including an Apple 
Watch app, Wear OS services, Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant, and even through 
Facebook Messenger. Siri Shortcuts debuted in iOS 12 in 2018 . The system was 
built from Workflow, an app that Apple purchased in 2017 , Shortcuts delivers 
app and system control options through a drag-and-drop card UI, that can be 
invoked by Siri. AppleInsider reviewed the Neato Botvac Connected back in 2016, 
and found it to be one of the best robot vacuum cleaners available on the 
market. In addition to offering controls via iPhone and Apple Watch, it also 
supports complex scheduling functions, cleans very well, and is easy to empty 
and clean. .

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Re: help with ipnhone eight

[stewart]

Hey sieghard:


Already got my info that i needed.?? Found the darn key but thanks for 
your input.?? much appreciated. .



Stew

On 8/5/2019 12:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

What keyboard/language did  you install? I know that on the German keyboard 
layout and maybe the UK as well (not sure about that) the letters Z and Y are 
switched, e.g. on a German keyboard the Z is where the Y is on the US keyboard 
and the Y is what the Z is.


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Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 3:51 PM
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Subject: RE: help with ipnhone eight

The z is to the right of the shift key on the left side.
If you find the a, slide down just a little and if you land on shift, slide 
right just a very little.

If you are flicking, then good luck,
Richard


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Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 3:21 PM
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Subject: help with ipnhone eight

hey folks:


i just recently got an iphone eight.?? i am starting to learn it with some 
effort.?? i am trying to enter my password in the wi fi password edit box.?? i 
can navigate between the numbers and letters okay but i need a z and there 
doesn't seem to be one.?? i can only locate a through y.?? does anyone have any 
suggestions??? this is very frustrating.?? thanks


stew

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RE: help with ipnhone eight

[Sieghard Weitzel]

What keyboard/language did  you install? I know that on the German keyboard 
layout and maybe the UK as well (not sure about that) the letters Z and Y are 
switched, e.g. on a German keyboard the Z is where the Y is on the US keyboard 
and the Y is what the Z is.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 3:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: help with ipnhone eight

The z is to the right of the shift key on the left side.
If you find the a, slide down just a little and if you land on shift, slide 
right just a very little.

If you are flicking, then good luck,
Richard


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the 
Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, it says, or 
rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at 
the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, 
p.59

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of stewart
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 3:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: help with ipnhone eight

hey folks:


i just recently got an iphone eight.?? i am starting to learn it with some 
effort.?? i am trying to enter my password in the wi fi password edit box.?? i 
can navigate between the numbers and letters okay but i need a z and there 
doesn't seem to be one.?? i can only locate a through y.?? does anyone have any 
suggestions??? this is very frustrating.?? thanks


stew

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Re: No one use VPN?

[Wayne Merritt]

Hello. I don't use VPN often, but have tried 2 that work well.
Windscribe and Tunnel Bear are both free. Windscribe offers up to 10
gigs free if you enter your email address. Tunnel Bear offers up to
500 megabytes for free I think, but it is easy to setup and meant to
offer a lot of features and protection with not a lot of fuss, for
those who want a simple experience. Both are accessible and work
fairly well.

Good luck,
Wayne

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Re: Siri won't give me time to ask a question

[Dave Jones]

 Hold the button down until you are finished speaking to Siri.

On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 10:29 AM Joshua Hendrickson 
wrote:

> I agree, that is a dumb thing to do on apples part.  Please tell me,
> that if you use hey siri, that you still hear the siri sound.  I use
> that more then holding the home button.
>
> On 8/5/19, englishride...@gmail.com  wrote:
> > Sieghard, there really is no more Siri sound unless you wear a headset? I
> > think this is kind of a stupid move on Apple's part. Did they at least
> > replace the auditory feedback with a vibration or something? Sheesh,
> Apple!
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ari
> >
> >> On Aug 5, 2019, at 3:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Richard,
> >>
> >> You don't have to hold the home button. It's a bit of a pain in iOS 13
> >> because unless you use a headset there is no SIRI sound, but I usually
> >> just press and hold the home button for maybe 2 seconds, then I tell
> SIRI
> >> what I want and it works fine.
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> >> Richard Turner
> >> Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 1:26 PM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: Siri won't give me time to ask a question
> >>
> >> You have to hold the home button if you are not using Hey Siri, unless
> you
> >> know a setting I do not.
> >> Also, that sounds to me like a resource issue" Clear everything from the
> >> app switcher, and reboot the phone.
> >> If all else fails, call Apple Accessibility 877-204-3930
> >>
> >>
> >> Richard
> >>
> >> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology
> >> is indistinguishable from magic."
> >> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
> >> www.turner42.com
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Aug 4, 2019, at 9:52 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> you don't have to hold the hope button but maybe it depends on what
> >>> phone you have.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message- From: Fanus Buys
> >>> Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 5:14 PM
> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Subject: RE: Siri won't give me time to ask a question
> >>>
> >>> That's exactly what I do but while holding the home button Siri won't
> let
> >>> me finish the question.
> >>> Regards
> >>> Fanus
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> >>> Behalf Of David Redman
> >>> Sent: Sunday, 04 August 2019 16:23
> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Subject: Re: Siri won't give me time to ask a question
> >>>
> >>> Press and hold the home button while you ask Siri what you want then
> >>> release it when you’re done.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On Aug 4, 2019, at 7:19 AM, Richard Turner <
> richardturne...@outlook.com>
>  wrote:
> 
>  First, close all apps from the app switcher, and reboot your phone.
>  Then, try again. If that doesn't work, explain exactly what steps you
>  use to get Siri listening? Hey Siri, or holding the home button?
>  I suspect the reboot will fix it.
> 
> 
>  Richard
> 
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> technology
>  is indistinguishable from magic."
>  (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
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> >> On Aug 4, 2019, at 7:15 AM, Fanus Buys 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello list
> > When I activate Siri and start to ask a question she just plays the
> > sound and then says she doesn't know i.e. she does not wait for me
> > to complete the question. This is on an iPhone 7 with IOS 12.4. Has
> > anyone experienced this?
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Re: Siri won't give me time to ask a question

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I agree, that is a dumb thing to do on apples part.  Please tell me,
that if you use hey siri, that you still hear the siri sound.  I use
that more then holding the home button.

On 8/5/19, englishride...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Sieghard, there really is no more Siri sound unless you wear a headset? I
> think this is kind of a stupid move on Apple's part. Did they at least
> replace the auditory feedback with a vibration or something? Sheesh, Apple!
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ari
>
>> On Aug 5, 2019, at 3:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> You don't have to hold the home button. It's a bit of a pain in iOS 13
>> because unless you use a headset there is no SIRI sound, but I usually
>> just press and hold the home button for maybe 2 seconds, then I tell SIRI
>> what I want and it works fine.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 1:26 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Siri won't give me time to ask a question
>>
>> You have to hold the home button if you are not using Hey Siri, unless you
>> know a setting I do not.
>> Also, that sounds to me like a resource issue" Clear everything from the
>> app switcher, and reboot the phone.
>> If all else fails, call Apple Accessibility 877-204-3930
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology
>> is indistinguishable from magic."
>> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
>> www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 4, 2019, at 9:52 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>>>
>>> you don't have to hold the hope button but maybe it depends on what
>>> phone you have.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Fanus Buys
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 5:14 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Siri won't give me time to ask a question
>>>
>>> That's exactly what I do but while holding the home button Siri won't let
>>> me finish the question.
>>> Regards
>>> Fanus
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of David Redman
>>> Sent: Sunday, 04 August 2019 16:23
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Siri won't give me time to ask a question
>>>
>>> Press and hold the home button while you ask Siri what you want then
>>> release it when you’re done.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Aug 4, 2019, at 7:19 AM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:

 First, close all apps from the app switcher, and reboot your phone.
 Then, try again. If that doesn't work, explain exactly what steps you
 use to get Siri listening? Hey Siri, or holding the home button?
 I suspect the reboot will fix it.


 Richard

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>> On Aug 4, 2019, at 7:15 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
>
> Hello list
> When I activate Siri and start to ask a question she just plays the
> sound and then says she doesn't know i.e. she does not wait for me
> to complete the question. This is on an iPhone 7 with IOS 12.4. Has
> anyone experienced this?
> Regards
> Fanus
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Re: An interesting conversion in the company name field of a contact

[englishrider91]

I always just put the name of the company in the first name field, and things 
usually work for me. Well, I usually put the city in the first name field in 
parentheses, particularly if it's something common, like Stop and Shop, a 
grocery store here in Massachusetts. Otherwise, Siri will start trying to find 
places by doing an internet search, rather than calling the number listed in my 
contacts. This thing of putting the city in the first name field also works 
well for me since sometimes I have more than one of the same store in my 
contacts, just in a different city, and I like to know right away, without 
going into the contact, which one I'm looking at.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Aug 3, 2019, at 7:32 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure if that is normal, but if you plan to use Siri to call that 
> company, don't use the company field, since Siri ignores it. Use the last 
> name field.
> HTH,
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
> indistinguishable from magic." 
> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
> www.turner42.com
>  
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2019, at 4:26 PM, karl Smith  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Yesterday I was adding a contact to my iPhone and when I got to the company 
>> name field I entered the company name which is LVI. When going back to 
>> verify my information the field read 56. Wondering what the problem was I 
>> deleted the data and wrote LVI again. Once more it said 56. It was then I 
>> realized it was converting LVI as if it was a Roman numeral. Is this normal?
>>  
>> Karl
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> __
>>  
>> Karl Smith
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>> Axis
>> 4304 South El Camino St.
>> Taylorsville, Utah 84129
>>  
>> Phone: 866-824-7885
>> Fax: 866-824-7885
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Re: Siri won't give me time to ask a question

[englishrider91]

Sieghard, there really is no more Siri sound unless you wear a headset? I think 
this is kind of a stupid move on Apple's part. Did they at least replace the 
auditory feedback with a vibration or something? Sheesh, Apple!


Thanks,
Ari

> On Aug 5, 2019, at 3:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> You don't have to hold the home button. It's a bit of a pain in iOS 13 
> because unless you use a headset there is no SIRI sound, but I usually just 
> press and hold the home button for maybe 2 seconds, then I tell SIRI what I 
> want and it works fine.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 1:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Siri won't give me time to ask a question
> 
> You have to hold the home button if you are not using Hey Siri, unless you 
> know a setting I do not.
> Also, that sounds to me like a resource issue" Clear everything from the app 
> switcher, and reboot the phone.
> If all else fails, call Apple Accessibility 877-204-3930
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
> indistinguishable from magic." 
> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>> On Aug 4, 2019, at 9:52 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> you don't have to hold the hope button but maybe it depends on what phone 
>> you have.
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Fanus Buys
>> Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 5:14 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Siri won't give me time to ask a question
>> 
>> That's exactly what I do but while holding the home button Siri won't let me 
>> finish the question.
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of David Redman
>> Sent: Sunday, 04 August 2019 16:23
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Siri won't give me time to ask a question
>> 
>> Press and hold the home button while you ask Siri what you want then release 
>> it when you’re done.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 4, 2019, at 7:19 AM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> First, close all apps from the app switcher, and reboot your phone.
>>> Then, try again. If that doesn't work, explain exactly what steps you use 
>>> to get Siri listening? Hey Siri, or holding the home button?
>>> I suspect the reboot will fix it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
>>> indistinguishable from magic."
>>> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
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>>> 
> On Aug 4, 2019, at 7:15 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
 
 Hello list
 When I activate Siri and start to ask a question she just plays the 
 sound and then says she doesn't know i.e. she does not wait for me 
 to complete the question. This is on an iPhone 7 with IOS 12.4. Has 
 anyone experienced this?
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RE: Sonos and Ikea partner up - the result: Symfonisk WiFi Table lamp and bookshelf Speakers

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Sieghard

Thanks for the info. Alexa is not yet available here but your instructions for 
volume up and down and play and pause are spot on. Is google assistant built 
into the Sonos One or must I set it up? Bye the way, I am very interested in 
location of places so I did not realize that Canada is such a large country. 
What are your coordinates so that I can locate it in my mind and then it lets 
me imagine I can “see” your town. I use my perkins brailler and coordinates to 
make maps of countries and although the scale is not 100% I get a fair 
indication of locations. I have not yet made a Canada map but I would like to 
plot your town when I get to the Canada map.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, 04 August 2019 19:38
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos and Ikea partner up - the result: Symfonisk WiFi Table lamp 
and bookshelf Speakers

 

Hi Fanus,

 

No, I have not heard either the Ikea bookshelf or speaker/lamp. The next Ikea 
for me is in Vancouver which is 1,200 Km away. If I get to Vancouver or another 
ccity with an Ikea next time I’ll try to find the time to check them out.

 

I don’t use the touch controls on the Sonos One much except for maybe turning 
the volume up or down or to pause playback if Alexa or the Google Assistant 
fail to hear me. I can usually do the volume fairly consistently, the area you 
touch is about half way from front to back and towards the left edge of the 
speaker is volume down and towards the right edge is volume up. Play/Pause is 
in the middle.

Towards the back of the speaker I think about in the middle left to right is a 
button which let’s you turn off the microphone and I think there maybe one 
which you can press to make the assistant listen in case you don’t want to say 
the wake word.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 4:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos and Ikea partner up - the result: Symfonisk WiFi Table lamp 
and bookshelf Speakers

 

Hello Sieghard

Thanks for informing us. Have you perhaps hat a chance to listen to an Ikea 
Speaker to compare the quality with Sonos? Secondly, can you please remind me 
and others of the touch buttons and swipes one can use on the Sonos One speaker?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 02 August 2019 19:35
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sonos and Ikea partner up - the result: Symfonisk WiFi Table lamp and 
bookshelf Speakers

 

For the Sonos fans out there who haven’t heard yet, you can now buy a speaker 
which integrates into your Sonos system from Ikea. You can even get a table 
lamp with a built-in speaker. These don’t appear to integrate with Alexa or 
Google Home or anything like that, but at $149 and $249 Canadian, respectively, 
the bookshelf speakers and table lamp aren’t exactly what I would consider all 
that expensive. I assume in the US this will translate into $119 and $179 or 
$189, respectively.

The bookshelf speakers are a foot tall, 4 inches wide and 6 inches deep and you 
can get a wall bracket for a mere $15 and a speaker hook for $10, it allows you 
to hang the speakers of a rail like some of the systems you can find for in the 
kitchen where you install a continuous rail under your upper counters and  you 
can then hang utensils off it or get various shelves, paper towel holders etc. 
You can read all about it below:

 

Symfonisk 

  WiFi Speakers

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

 

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RE: Siri won't give me time to ask a question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Richard,

You don't have to hold the home button. It's a bit of a pain in iOS 13 because 
unless you use a headset there is no SIRI sound, but I usually just press and 
hold the home button for maybe 2 seconds, then I tell SIRI what I want and it 
works fine.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri won't give me time to ask a question

You have to hold the home button if you are not using Hey Siri, unless you know 
a setting I do not.
Also, that sounds to me like a resource issue" Clear everything from the app 
switcher, and reboot the phone.
If all else fails, call Apple Accessibility 877-204-3930


Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
indistinguishable from magic." 
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
www.turner42.com
 

> On Aug 4, 2019, at 9:52 AM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> you don't have to hold the hope button but maybe it depends on what phone 
> you have.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Fanus Buys
> Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 5:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Siri won't give me time to ask a question
> 
> That's exactly what I do but while holding the home button Siri won't let me 
> finish the question.
> Regards
> Fanus
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of David Redman
> Sent: Sunday, 04 August 2019 16:23
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Siri won't give me time to ask a question
> 
> Press and hold the home button while you ask Siri what you want then release 
> it when you’re done.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 4, 2019, at 7:19 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> First, close all apps from the app switcher, and reboot your phone.
>> Then, try again. If that doesn't work, explain exactly what steps you use to 
>> get Siri listening? Hey Siri, or holding the home button?
>> I suspect the reboot will fix it.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
>> indistinguishable from magic."
>> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
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>>> 
>>> Hello list
>>>  When I activate Siri and start to ask a question she just plays the 
>>> sound and then says she doesn't know i.e. she does not wait for me 
>>> to complete the question. This is on an iPhone 7 with IOS 12.4. Has 
>>> anyone experienced this?
>>> Regards
>>> Fanus
>>> 
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