RE: I never meant to update.

2019-10-23 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
I have never had an iPhone update itself unless I tapped on “I Agree” at some 
point. I am pretty sure a lot of people tap it not even checking what they 
agree to and then they wonder why iOS updated itself.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
Jones
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 4:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I never meant to update.

The same thing happened with my wife’s phone just after iOS 13 was released. 
All of her updates including iOS updates has been disabled yet she would’ve 
woke one morning to find that her phone was updated to iOS 13. In fact, this 
has been going on for her since iOS 9. She has not been able to stop this from 
happening. And yes. Everything automatic is and has been disabled on her phone. 
Additionally, a couple of the low vision features that she uses have been 
broken in iOS 13. You cannot imagine how furious she has been about it.


On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 2:00 PM Dave 
mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, as far as i know. You can't roll back, as apple will have stopped
signing the 12.4.1 update.

Dave.


-Original Message-
From: terri...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 6:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I never meant to update.

Hello Dave,
Can I uninstall the updates and roll back to 12.4.1?
Best,
Terri Hedgpeth

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 1:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I never meant to update.

absolutely.

If you accidentally tap on the incorrect button, it will update over night.

I think it's always better, to delete the downloaded update.

Dave.


-Original Message-
From: janet gross
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 7:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I never meant to update.

Hi Josh,
When I got my first iPhone, and when I got a notification I had an update, I
tapped on the later option, and sure enough the phone did download the very
next time I turned on my phone!  My point, be very careful if you don't want
to update right now, about the later option though.
Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 1:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I never meant to update.

I'll delete my update again.  I think 2 gigs for an update is rather large
myself.  I just always go to not now, and remind me later.
Hopefully, my phone won't update by itself.

On 10/22/19, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> HI Dave,
> Thank you for this as I just removed it by following your steps.
> Thank you thank you!
> Janet
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Dave
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I never meant to update.
>
> Hi You can remove the downloaded update, by going into settings,
> general, and swiping to iPhone storage.
>
> There you will find the iOS 13 update. Just double tap on it, and you
> will have the option to delete it.
>
> It will download again at some point. But just keep deleting it.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> From: janet 
> gross>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 6:16 PM
> To: 
> viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: I never meant to update.
>
> Hi Duane and All,
> Duane you didn’t do anything wrong, as the exact samething happened to
> me just last Sunday, even though, I have my auto download set to off.
> When I turned on my XR phone with iOS 12.4.1, the update 13 .1.2 was
> downloading, and I had no option to cancel.  I turned the phone off,
> and waited, and turned it back on, but still the update was downloading!
> I was furious!
> I
> think this is very unfair that Apple would do this, and as far as I am
> concerned, this should not be allowed!  Although, doesn’t all the
> updates automatically download, but we have the option to install by
> accepting the license agreement or not.  Hopefully someone will chime in
> on my question.
> After the download, a few days later is when I got the first
> notification to install the update, so I did not accept the license
> agreement, so it has not installed on my phone.  Although, it is still
> there waiting for me to accept the license agreement, and I have no
> intentions of updating just yet.  Has anyone noticed the size

RE: Updating payment method for Apple ID

2019-10-23 Thread M. Taylor 
Hello Wendy,

Not to worry.  This is a well-known software glitch that Apple says it will 
resolve.

In the meantime, you will have to update your payment method, at least once, 
via the web portal.  Once done, then you should be able to update your card 
info via your local Apple device.

So, go to:  
http://appleid.apple.com and sign into your account via your preferred web 
browser.

Update your info, there, and you should be good to go.

The next time you open the Settings / Apple ID / Payment method on your Apple 
device, you will see that you can now edit your payment method, again, should 
you wish.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wendy Alling
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 4:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updating payment method for Apple ID

This is what I did, several times, but it would not allow me to edit my card. 
This card also has Apple Pay attached with it. Don’t know if that has anything 
to do with it or not, but it wouldn’t allow me to change anything.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 23, 2019, at 6:04 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Wendy,
> 
> Open Settings on your device and choose the Apple ID option, which also 
> includes your name. Choose Payment & Shipping, and then choose Edit.
> 
> best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 23, 2019, at 12:18 PM, Wendy Alling  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, I’ve spent half the morning trying to figure out how to update my 
>> payment card for my Apple ID. Any instructions would be helpful. Thank you.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: I never meant to update.

2019-10-23 Thread Dave Jones 
The same thing happened with my wife’s phone just after iOS 13 was
released. All of her updates including iOS updates has been disabled yet
she would’ve woke one morning to find that her phone was updated to iOS 13.
In fact, this has been going on for her since iOS 9. She has not been able
to stop this from happening. And yes. Everything automatic is and has been
disabled on her phone. Additionally, a couple of the low vision features
that she uses have been broken in iOS 13. You cannot imagine how furious
she has been about it.


On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 2:00 PM Dave  wrote:

> Hi, as far as i know. You can't roll back, as apple will have stopped
> signing the 12.4.1 update.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: terri...@gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 6:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: I never meant to update.
>
> Hello Dave,
> Can I uninstall the updates and roll back to 12.4.1?
> Best,
> Terri Hedgpeth
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Dave
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 1:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I never meant to update.
>
> absolutely.
>
> If you accidentally tap on the incorrect button, it will update over night.
>
> I think it's always better, to delete the downloaded update.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: janet gross
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 7:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: I never meant to update.
>
> Hi Josh,
> When I got my first iPhone, and when I got a notification I had an update,
> I
> tapped on the later option, and sure enough the phone did download the
> very
> next time I turned on my phone!  My point, be very careful if you don't
> want
> to update right now, about the later option though.
> Janet
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 1:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I never meant to update.
>
> I'll delete my update again.  I think 2 gigs for an update is rather large
> myself.  I just always go to not now, and remind me later.
> Hopefully, my phone won't update by itself.
>
> On 10/22/19, janet gross  wrote:
> > HI Dave,
> > Thank you for this as I just removed it by following your steps.
> > Thank you thank you!
> > Janet
> >
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of Dave
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:40 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: I never meant to update.
> >
> > Hi You can remove the downloaded update, by going into settings,
> > general, and swiping to iPhone storage.
> >
> > There you will find the iOS 13 update. Just double tap on it, and you
> > will have the option to delete it.
> >
> > It will download again at some point. But just keep deleting it.
> >
> > Dave.
> >
> >
> > From: janet gross
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 6:16 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: RE: I never meant to update.
> >
> > Hi Duane and All,
> > Duane you didn’t do anything wrong, as the exact samething happened to
> > me just last Sunday, even though, I have my auto download set to off.
> > When I turned on my XR phone with iOS 12.4.1, the update 13 .1.2 was
> > downloading, and I had no option to cancel.  I turned the phone off,
> > and waited, and turned it back on, but still the update was downloading!
> > I was furious!
> > I
> > think this is very unfair that Apple would do this, and as far as I am
> > concerned, this should not be allowed!  Although, doesn’t all the
> > updates automatically download, but we have the option to install by
> > accepting the license agreement or not.  Hopefully someone will chime in
> > on my question.
> > After the download, a few days later is when I got the first
> > notification to install the update, so I did not accept the license
> > agreement, so it has not installed on my phone.  Although, it is still
> > there waiting for me to accept the license agreement, and I have no
> > intentions of updating just yet.  Has anyone noticed the size of this
> > update? It is a little over 2 gigs!  So next time we think about
> > buying an iPhone, we might have to pay more money to get more space on
> > our phones!  If someone doesn’t want the newest update, that should be
> > their right, so please people try and understand some people just
> > don’t ask for trouble!  Now, I’m sure Apple had good intentions when
> > releasing an update, but it doesn’t always work that way, and I’m sure
> > Apple knows that!  Doesn’t the Apple baiter testers give their
> > findings to Apple before Apple actually releases the update? Doesn’t
> > Apple listen to their baiter testers? When I have a problem with my
> > phone after an update, and I call Apple, they can only give me a
> > workaround if they have

Re: Updating payment method for Apple ID

2019-10-23 Thread Wendy Alling 
This is what I did, several times, but it would not allow me to edit my card. 
This card also has Apple Pay attached with it. Don’t know if that has anything 
to do with it or not, but it wouldn’t allow me to change anything.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 23, 2019, at 6:04 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Wendy,
> 
> Open Settings on your device and choose the Apple ID option, which also 
> includes your name. Choose Payment & Shipping, and then choose Edit.
> 
> best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 23, 2019, at 12:18 PM, Wendy Alling  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, I’ve spent half the morning trying to figure out how to update my 
>> payment card for my Apple ID. Any instructions would be helpful. Thank you.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Updating payment method for Apple ID

2019-10-23 Thread Anna Dresner 
Hi Wendy,

Open Settings on your device and choose the Apple ID option, which also 
includes your name. Choose Payment & Shipping, and then choose Edit.

best,
Anna




> On Oct 23, 2019, at 12:18 PM, Wendy Alling  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, I’ve spent half the morning trying to figure out how to update my 
> payment card for my Apple ID. Any instructions would be helpful. Thank you.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Bluetooth question.

2019-10-23 Thread Carolyn Arnold 
I have Bluetooth in my hearing aids, but can get some
earbuds so can answer phone and hang up and talk using them.


So, my question is, I have my hearing aids paired to
Bluetooth. Can I just run them both at the same time, either
or or what should I do to have this for whichever I want to
use. I have a treatment for tinnitus, where I need to use my
hearing aids. Otherwise, it would be really good to use the
earbuds. Thanks for any help. 

If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,

Carolyn

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Re: I never meant to update.

2019-10-23 Thread Dave 
Hi, as far as i know. You can't roll back, as apple will have stopped 
signing the 12.4.1 update.


Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: terri...@gmail.com

Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 6:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I never meant to update.

Hello Dave,
Can I uninstall the updates and roll back to 12.4.1?
Best,
Terri Hedgpeth

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 1:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I never meant to update.

absolutely.

If you accidentally tap on the incorrect button, it will update over night.

I think it's always better, to delete the downloaded update.

Dave.


-Original Message-
From: janet gross
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 7:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I never meant to update.

Hi Josh,
When I got my first iPhone, and when I got a notification I had an update, I 
tapped on the later option, and sure enough the phone did download the very 
next time I turned on my phone!  My point, be very careful if you don't want 
to update right now, about the later option though.

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Joshua Hendrickson

Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 1:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I never meant to update.

I'll delete my update again.  I think 2 gigs for an update is rather large 
myself.  I just always go to not now, and remind me later.

Hopefully, my phone won't update by itself.

On 10/22/19, janet gross  wrote:

HI Dave,
Thank you for this as I just removed it by following your steps.
Thank you thank you!
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I never meant to update.

Hi You can remove the downloaded update, by going into settings,
general, and swiping to iPhone storage.

There you will find the iOS 13 update. Just double tap on it, and you
will have the option to delete it.

It will download again at some point. But just keep deleting it.

Dave.


From: janet gross
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 6:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I never meant to update.

Hi Duane and All,
Duane you didn’t do anything wrong, as the exact samething happened to
me just last Sunday, even though, I have my auto download set to off.
When I turned on my XR phone with iOS 12.4.1, the update 13 .1.2 was
downloading, and I had no option to cancel.  I turned the phone off,
and waited, and turned it back on, but still the update was downloading! 
I was furious!

I
think this is very unfair that Apple would do this, and as far as I am
concerned, this should not be allowed!  Although, doesn’t all the
updates automatically download, but we have the option to install by
accepting the license agreement or not.  Hopefully someone will chime in 
on my question.

After the download, a few days later is when I got the first
notification to install the update, so I did not accept the license
agreement, so it has not installed on my phone.  Although, it is still
there waiting for me to accept the license agreement, and I have no
intentions of updating just yet.  Has anyone noticed the size of this
update? It is a little over 2 gigs!  So next time we think about
buying an iPhone, we might have to pay more money to get more space on
our phones!  If someone doesn’t want the newest update, that should be
their right, so please people try and understand some people just
don’t ask for trouble!  Now, I’m sure Apple had good intentions when
releasing an update, but it doesn’t always work that way, and I’m sure
Apple knows that!  Doesn’t the Apple baiter testers give their
findings to Apple before Apple actually releases the update? Doesn’t
Apple listen to their baiter testers? When I have a problem with my
phone after an update, and I call Apple, they can only give me a
workaround if they have one, so the main problem is not corrected!
Yes, I know some people might not be experiencing the same phone
issues after the update, and that seems to be a little odd!
Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Duane Steele
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 10:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I never meant to update.


Hello iPhone Friends,



Some of you reading this note will suppose that perhaps I'd done
something wrong in the settings on my iPhone 8.  With all the recent
flack I'd read and heard about iOS 13, I had decided to wait awhile
before updating.  I checked my settings to ensure that the automatic
update feature had been turned off.  You can now guess where this is
going.  I awoke this morning and looked at the time on my iPhone and
discovered it had updated overnight without my consent.  I can only
imagine that,

RE: I never meant to update.

2019-10-23 Thread territek 
Hello Dave,
Can I uninstall the updates and roll back to 12.4.1?
Best,
Terri Hedgpeth

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 1:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I never meant to update.

absolutely.

If you accidentally tap on the incorrect button, it will update over night.

I think it's always better, to delete the downloaded update.

Dave.


-Original Message-
From: janet gross
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 7:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I never meant to update.

Hi Josh,
When I got my first iPhone, and when I got a notification I had an update, I 
tapped on the later option, and sure enough the phone did download the very 
next time I turned on my phone!  My point, be very careful if you don't want to 
update right now, about the later option though.
Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 1:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I never meant to update.

I'll delete my update again.  I think 2 gigs for an update is rather large 
myself.  I just always go to not now, and remind me later.
Hopefully, my phone won't update by itself.

On 10/22/19, janet gross  wrote:
> HI Dave,
> Thank you for this as I just removed it by following your steps.
> Thank you thank you!
> Janet
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Dave
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I never meant to update.
>
> Hi You can remove the downloaded update, by going into settings, 
> general, and swiping to iPhone storage.
>
> There you will find the iOS 13 update. Just double tap on it, and you 
> will have the option to delete it.
>
> It will download again at some point. But just keep deleting it.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> From: janet gross
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 6:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: I never meant to update.
>
> Hi Duane and All,
> Duane you didn’t do anything wrong, as the exact samething happened to 
> me just last Sunday, even though, I have my auto download set to off.  
> When I turned on my XR phone with iOS 12.4.1, the update 13 .1.2 was 
> downloading, and I had no option to cancel.  I turned the phone off, 
> and waited, and turned it back on, but still the update was downloading!  I 
> was furious!
> I
> think this is very unfair that Apple would do this, and as far as I am 
> concerned, this should not be allowed!  Although, doesn’t all the 
> updates automatically download, but we have the option to install by 
> accepting the license agreement or not.  Hopefully someone will chime in on 
> my question.
> After the download, a few days later is when I got the first 
> notification to install the update, so I did not accept the license 
> agreement, so it has not installed on my phone.  Although, it is still 
> there waiting for me to accept the license agreement, and I have no 
> intentions of updating just yet.  Has anyone noticed the size of this 
> update? It is a little over 2 gigs!  So next time we think about 
> buying an iPhone, we might have to pay more money to get more space on 
> our phones!  If someone doesn’t want the newest update, that should be 
> their right, so please people try and understand some people just 
> don’t ask for trouble!  Now, I’m sure Apple had good intentions when 
> releasing an update, but it doesn’t always work that way, and I’m sure 
> Apple knows that!  Doesn’t the Apple baiter testers give their 
> findings to Apple before Apple actually releases the update? Doesn’t 
> Apple listen to their baiter testers? When I have a problem with my 
> phone after an update, and I call Apple, they can only give me a 
> workaround if they have one, so the main problem is not corrected!
> Yes, I know some people might not be experiencing the same phone 
> issues after the update, and that seems to be a little odd!
> Janet
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Duane Steele
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 10:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: I never meant to update.
>
>
> Hello iPhone Friends,
>
>
>
> Some of you reading this note will suppose that perhaps I'd done 
> something wrong in the settings on my iPhone 8.  With all the recent 
> flack I'd read and heard about iOS 13, I had decided to wait awhile 
> before updating.  I checked my settings to ensure that the automatic 
> update feature had been turned off.  You can now guess where this is 
> going.  I awoke this morning and looked at the time on my iPhone and 
> discovered it had updated overnight without my consent.  I can only 
> imagine that, given today's rapid advances in artificial intelligence, 
> my phone made its own decision, and

Updating payment method for Apple ID

2019-10-23 Thread Wendy Alling 
Hi all, I’ve spent half the morning trying to figure out how to update my 
payment card for my Apple ID. Any instructions would be helpful. Thank you.

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VoiceOver crashing after call, possible work around

2019-10-23 Thread Richard Turner 
I am told that if you go to the home screen before hanging up with the two 
finger double tap, VO doesn't crash.
Worth a try.




Richard
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Re: 1Password or LastPass?

2019-10-23 Thread Donald Raikes 
I just downloaded One Password on my iPhone 8 and when I opened it the
only option I had was to subscribe to the $8.99 for six months then
$3.99 per month after that.
There was no option to try it for free, and after I completed the
signup for the 6 month trial, I need to enter my email and a 6 digit
code which was supposed to be emailed to me but I never got the email,
so I am stuck at this point.



On 10/22/19, Matthew Bullis  wrote:
> Is there anything you wouldn't use this program for? Would you use this to
> create your Apple id password? That is about the only thing that I would say
> you might not want to use this for, since you probably couldn't get to the
> password field before you needed to log in.
> Matthew
>
>
> On Oct 22, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
>
> I also would go for 1Password. I don't pay for it. I just use it on my
> iPhone.
>
> On Oct 22, 2019, at 5:06 PM, Peter Logan  wrote:
>
> Additionally you can put the app on your Apple watch and then bring over
> things that you might need on a regular basis ..
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne
> Merritt
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 4:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: 1Password or LastPass?
>
> There is a subscription cost for 1Password, but it is to be able to access
> your passwords across several operating systems. At one time, there was a
> $10 US in-app purchase within the app which offers more categories, such as
> driver's license, wireless routers, and others.
> That is a 1 time purchase. I haven't bothered with the subscription since I
> only use it on my iPhone. If I want to get a password on  my Window
> computer, I will copy it from the phone. I have gotten the in-app purchase
> and have found it helpful. It can take a while to set up all of the
> passwords and other information in 1Password, but it is well worth it and
> totally accessible. For my limited use, I haven't come across any
> accessibility issues. The in-app purchase also lets you set up multiple
> password vaults, which could be for home, work, etc.
>
> Wayne
>
> On 10/22/19, Agent086b  wrote:
> Hi,
> have been using Lastpass for many years on Mac & iPhone with no
> accessibility problems.
> Max.
>
> On 23 Oct 2019, at 4:09 am, Cristobal Muñoz 
> wrote:
>
> When I was looking into a PW manager a few years ago, at that time,
> the general consensus was that 1Password was more accessible. I don't
> know if Lastpass has done anything to make it's service more
> accessible, but 1Password's been working fine for me on my iPhone and
> PCs. They're also pretty responsive to accessibility concerns and
> work to address whatever issues may pop up from time to time.
> As far as pricing... Well, in my opinion, I don't find it to be hefty
> for the convenience and peace of mind that it provides at all, but
> that's going to depend from person to person I suppose.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of kelby carlson
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 10:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: 1Password or LastPass?
>
> Which of these two apps does everyone prefer? I’ve heard great things
> about 1Password, but it looks like there’s a hefty subscription fee
> which I’m not crazy about.
>
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Re: Amazon assistant

2019-10-23 Thread Devin Prater 
You can use Reverb  on your iPhone for Alexa.

> On Oct 23, 2019, at 10:40 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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> hello, is anyone familiar with Amazon assistant? Is it accessible and useful 
> on her iPhones?
> 
> Thank you,
> Hello, is anyone familiar with Amazon assistant? Is it accessible and useful 
> on our iPhones?
> 
> Thank you,
> Traci
> 
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Amazon assistant

2019-10-23 Thread Traci Duncan 
hello, is anyone familiar with Amazon assistant? Is it accessible and useful on 
her iPhones?

Thank you,
Hello, is anyone familiar with Amazon assistant? Is it accessible and useful on 
our iPhones?

Thank you,
Traci

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Re: Bluetooth app for Instant Pot is not working in v13.1.3

2019-10-23 Thread Penny Reeder 
Hi, I have used my blue tooth IP several times since I upgraded with
-- knock on wood! -- no issues. Whenever I have trouble getting the
blue tooth and the IPconnected, I unplug the Instant Pot, plug it back
in and the connection usually works. I hope this helps.
Penny

On 10/23/19, terri...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Tried unsuccessfully to pair my iPhone XR with my Instant Pot last night and
> could not get it to pair. However, when I turned PO off and handed my phone
> to my sighted Husband, he paired it without any instantly. Pun intended.
> After he paired the two, I turned VO back on and could operate the pot
> easily as I had in the past. I hope 13.2 will fix this.
>
> Best,
>
> Terri Hedgpeth
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary
> Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 2:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth app for Instant Pot is not working in v13.1.3
>
>
>
> My instant pot is paired with a 7+ which is currently running 13.2 beta. I’m
> not having any problem there. And it seems to me I did also use it on some
> version of 13.1, I think it was 13.1.2 but I’m not sure. I have not
> experienced any issues with it.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Oct 22, 2019, at 1:12 PM, Terri Hedgpeth   > wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I hope someone can help with my issue.
>
> Has anyone else experienced problems with their Instant Pot Bluetooth app in
> the new 13.1.3? Since they quict making the Bluetooth model a couple years
> ago, they may not bother updating the app.
>
> Hope someone has a solution.
>
> Best,
>
> Terri Hedgpeth
>
>
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Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3

2019-10-23 Thread Duane Steele 
> Hello iPhone friends,
> 
> You'll recall that I wrote on this particular thread about braille displays 
> yesterday when my phone made its own decision to update.  I have since 
> discovered that the only way to get the routing keys to work properly when 
> editing a document is to make sure when you are in the document that the 
> rotor is set properly to words or characters.  Unfortunately, you have to 
> check this every time you edit a document using your braille display.

>  
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
> 
> On Oct 23, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Johnna Simmons  wrote:
> 
> Try using the ST cord dots 34 and to get your status informationTry using 
> the ST corn dogs 34 and to get your status
> 
> Johnna Simmons
> 
> On Oct 22, 2019, at 11:47 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Tom, I'm using the BrailleEdge 40 from Hims, and also having some issues 
> since my phone decided to update this morning. For example, holding down the 
> space-bar plus the braille letter s used to take me directly to the status 
> bar where I could check immediately how much charge I had left.  Now, nothing 
> happens when I press that key combination.  Since I'm still figuring out the 
> update, I'm bound to have more questions.  I'm not happy about this either.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
> 
> On Oct 22, 2019, at 9:49 AM, Tom Lange  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I’m using a Braille Sense U2 with an iphone 8 running IOS 13.1.3 and I’m 
> really disgusted with how this combination is working, particularly when it 
> comes to doing any kind of lengthy text editing. Cursor routing becomes 
> erratic. Voiceover can slow down and crash. It’s just awful. I could go into 
> detail, but VO will probably give me trouble while I do so. Anybody else out 
> there having trouble with Braille displays in IOs 13? 
> Tom
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best method to delete multiple contacts

2019-10-23 Thread Joe Paton 

Good Afternoon all.

What is the best procedure to delete over one thouzand contacts in a 
couple of key strokes? I think a third party app may be needed, but if 
correct, which one?


Many thanks.

JP

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Are Third Party Keyboards Working in iOS 12.1.3?

2019-10-23 Thread 'Chuck Dean' via VIPhone 
Hello,
Fliktype is not working with 13.1.2. I am to understand from the beta testers 
that iOS version 13.2 fixes the third-party software keyboard problems.
You may want to wait for iOS 13.2 before updating your phone

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Re: Disgusted with Braille in IOS 13.1.3

2019-10-23 Thread Johnna Simmons 
Try using the ST cord dots 34 and to get your status informationTry using the 
ST corn dogs 34 and to get your status

Johnna Simmons

> On Oct 22, 2019, at 11:47 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
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> 
>> 
>> Tom, I'm using the BrailleEdge 40 from Hims, and also having some issues 
>> since my phone decided to update this morning. For example, holding down the 
>> space-bar plus the braille letter s used to take me directly to the status 
>> bar where I could check immediately how much charge I had left.  Now, 
>> nothing happens when I press that key combination.  Since I'm still figuring 
>> out the update, I'm bound to have more questions.  I'm not happy about this 
>> either.
> 
>> 
>> Peace & Blessings,
>> Duane L. Steele
>> Phone (276) 730-5194
>> 
>> On Oct 22, 2019, at 9:49 AM, Tom Lange  wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> I’m using a Braille Sense U2 with an iphone 8 running IOS 13.1.3 and I’m 
>> really disgusted with how this combination is working, particularly when it 
>> comes to doing any kind of lengthy text editing. Cursor routing becomes 
>> erratic. Voiceover can slow down and crash. It’s just awful. I could go into 
>> detail, but VO will probably give me trouble while I do so. Anybody else out 
>> there having trouble with Braille displays in IOs 13? 
>> Tom
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Issue with 13.1.2 and some with 13.1.3

2019-10-23 Thread territek 
I had a show stopping issue where my XR would completely stop working and
shut down, or VO would just freeze. Someone at the GeniusBar suggested I
reset all my settings. I did and other than one more complete shut down, my
phone has been working fine since. The last occurrence was Thursday November
17th last week after the reset and upgrading to 13.1.3.  I also had problems
with my Audicon hearing aids connecting through only one ear or failing
altogether. Heres hoping that these issues stay dormant.

Best,

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RE: Bluetooth app for Instant Pot is not working in v13.1.3

2019-10-23 Thread territek 
Tried unsuccessfully to pair my iPhone XR with my Instant Pot last night and 
could not get it to pair. However, when I turned PO off and handed my phone to 
my sighted Husband, he paired it without any instantly. Pun intended. After he 
paired the two, I turned VO back on and could operate the pot easily as I had 
in the past. I hope 13.2 will fix this.

Best,

Terri Hedgpeth 

 

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Otten
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 2:57 PM
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Subject: Re: Bluetooth app for Instant Pot is not working in v13.1.3

 

My instant pot is paired with a 7+ which is currently running 13.2 beta. I’m 
not having any problem there. And it seems to me I did also use it on some 
version of 13.1, I think it was 13.1.2 but I’m not sure. I have not experienced 
any issues with it.



Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 22, 2019, at 1:12 PM, Terri Hedgpeth mailto:terri...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello all,

I hope someone can help with my issue.

Has anyone else experienced problems with their Instant Pot Bluetooth app in 
the new 13.1.3? Since they quict making the Bluetooth model a couple years ago, 
they may not bother updating the app.

Hope someone has a solution.

Best,

Terri Hedgpeth

 

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Re: IOS 13.3 bug

2019-10-23 Thread Dave 
I think they are talking about, iOS 13.1.3.

Dave.


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Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 1:42 AM
To: viPhone  
Subject: Re: IOS 13.3 bug

Excuse me for my ignorance, but when was iOS 13.3 released? 



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RE: IOS 13.3 bug

2019-10-23 Thread Keao wright 
Yes, that was a typo on my part.

 

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It hasn't. 13.1.3 is out now and 13.2 should be out next week. The reference to 
13.3 was obviously a typo.

 

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 Excuse me for my ignorance, but when was iOS 13.3 released? 

 



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Country Music Book Now On BARD

2019-10-23 Thread Arnold Schmidt 
There was discussion earlier about the dvd of this PBS series. I thought I 
would post that the accompanying book is now on BARD. 

Country music: a history DB96527

Duncan, Dayton; Burns, Ken. Reading time: 18 hours, 10 minutes. 


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