RE: InstaCart App ... pricing

[Ann Byrne]

You can purchase a monthly subscription to both Shipt and 
Instacart.  Shipt is $14.95, and I think instacart is a little less, 
but I'm subscribed to Shipt and not Instacart so the amount for 
Instacart may be wrong.  when I use shipt, there is no charge per 
ddelivery as that is covered by the monthly fee.  the last time I 
used Instacart the delivery charge was about $5.  both services 
encourage a tip as well.

I have had good service from both shipt and Instacart.
At 09:27 PM 9/6/2020, you wrote:
The usual practice is this. I speak for Shipt. You join for a yearly 
membership of $99 and you may can join for a monthly fee. The 
delivery fee is $10 or so for any order up to $35. Anything we order 
above $35 is free delivery. I don't know about sale prices or 
points. The service is worth it to us because it frees us from being 
dependent on someone.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of janet gross

Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 9:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: InstaCart App

Hi All,
I have often wondered about this service, so if I may please ask 
you, is this service expensive? From my understanding, this service 
charges $14.95 just to use the service, and then they charge a 
delivery fee of $4.95, and they do not honor the sale prices because 
that is another way they make money? Meaning we as customers don't 
get the actual sale price, and we as customers can't use a reward 
card if we have one, but the shoppers use their personal reward 
card, so then the shoppers also get our points on their own reward 
card.  I do give a tip, so I include this as well.  Do customers 
have to order a certain amount maybe like $30 or 50 to use the 
service.  I hear so many people saying this is a great service, but 
when I ask them how much does the service charge, no one knows for 
sure.  I could very well be wrong, but this is what I read from the 
agreement on their web site.  So, please let me know if I am wrong, 
as I would appreciate it.

Maybe it is different in different areas, not for sure.

Janet

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Mary Jo Partyka

Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2020 8:11 PM
To: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone
Subject: Re: InstaCart App

Hi,

I have been using Instacart since the pandemic hit in March and we 
order groceries every week.  The app is easy to use and the store 
personnel are cooperative.  The shoppers ask us questions when items 
are out of stock or not good quality and give me a chance to reply 
with my answer.  The drivers bring the groceries to our front door 
and my husband goes out to get them.  m.  The shoppers are 
nice.  One time one of the items we ordered was missing.  We called 
the support line and they credited our account for the missing 
item.  It could have been misplaced when the items were being rung 
up.  We are very pleased with the service.



> On Sep 6, 2020, at 5:57 PM, Holly Jensen 
 wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> I wanted to write in and ask if anyone in this group has had 
experience using InstaCart? If so, is the app accessible, are the 
drivers communicative, etc? Many thanks.

>
> Holly
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RE: InstaCart App

[janet gross]

Hi Shai, 
I have been looking for a shopping service.  I will check them out thoroughly.  
I have this service where I live, and I definitely want a shopping service like 
this.  $99 a year isn't a bad deal, and matter of fact, this service is right 
where my favorite store is.  Can I ask you if you order an item, and the store 
is out of it, will the shopper call you to let you know, or to ask you if you 
want to replace it with something else? Do you use this app on the phone, or on 
the pc? 
Is there somewhere on the app to ask the shopper to please check the expiration 
date especially on the dairy products? I can't even begin to  say how many 
times when I'm at the store, and the shopper picks up the products, and I ask 
him or her to check the expiration date, and low in behold, it was out dated 
some days ago.  
Do you have your credit card information saved on their web site, so you don't 
have to enter it every time you place an order? 
Is there a certain amount for the tip? 
If you have a problem with the purchases, can you call someone to report or if 
you don't get what you asked for, but still been charged for it?
Am I right in assuming this app is accessible with VoiceOver?  

Thank you so much. 

Janet  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shai
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2020 10:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: InstaCart App

Hello,
Here in Los Angeles, Instacart charges $99 a year and orders $35 and
up receive free delivery. One does not have to subscribe to the $99
service, but they will pay the delivery fees and any other applicable
prices.
I know that this is also the same in San Diego as well.
I have seen sales on different items through them.
On 9/6/20, janet gross  wrote:
> Hi All,
> I have often wondered about this service, so if I may please ask you, is
> this service expensive? From my understanding, this service charges $14.95
> just to use the service, and then they charge a delivery fee of $4.95, and
> they do not honor the sale prices because that is another way they make
> money? Meaning we as customers don't get the actual sale price, and we as
> customers can't use a reward card if we have one, but the shoppers use their
> personal reward card, so then the shoppers also get our points on their own
> reward card.  I do give a tip, so I include this as well.  Do customers have
> to order a certain amount maybe like $30 or 50 to use the service.  I hear
> so many people saying this is a great service, but when I ask them how much
> does the service charge, no one knows for sure.  I could very well be wrong,
> but this is what I read from the agreement on their web site.  So, please
> let me know if I am wrong, as I would appreciate it.
> Maybe it is different in different areas, not for sure.
>
> Janet
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Mary Jo Partyka
> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2020 8:11 PM
> To: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone
> Subject: Re: InstaCart App
>
> Hi,
>
> I have been using Instacart since the pandemic hit in March and we order
> groceries every week.  The app is easy to use and the store personnel are
> cooperative.  The shoppers ask us questions when items are out of stock or
> not good quality and give me a chance to reply with my answer.  The drivers
> bring the groceries to our front door and my husband goes out to get them.
> m.  The shoppers are nice.  One time one of the items we ordered was
> missing.  We called the support line and they credited our account for the
> missing item.  It could have been misplaced when the items were being rung
> up.  We are very pleased with the service.
>
>
>> On Sep 6, 2020, at 5:57 PM, Holly Jensen 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I wanted to write in and ask if anyone in this group has had experience
>> using InstaCart? If so, is the app accessible, are the drivers
>> communicative, etc? Many thanks.
>>
>> Holly
>>
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Re: InstaCart App

[Shai]

Hello,
Here in Los Angeles, Instacart charges $99 a year and orders $35 and
up receive free delivery. One does not have to subscribe to the $99
service, but they will pay the delivery fees and any other applicable
prices.
I know that this is also the same in San Diego as well.
I have seen sales on different items through them.
On 9/6/20, janet gross  wrote:
> Hi All,
> I have often wondered about this service, so if I may please ask you, is
> this service expensive? From my understanding, this service charges $14.95
> just to use the service, and then they charge a delivery fee of $4.95, and
> they do not honor the sale prices because that is another way they make
> money? Meaning we as customers don't get the actual sale price, and we as
> customers can't use a reward card if we have one, but the shoppers use their
> personal reward card, so then the shoppers also get our points on their own
> reward card.  I do give a tip, so I include this as well.  Do customers have
> to order a certain amount maybe like $30 or 50 to use the service.  I hear
> so many people saying this is a great service, but when I ask them how much
> does the service charge, no one knows for sure.  I could very well be wrong,
> but this is what I read from the agreement on their web site.  So, please
> let me know if I am wrong, as I would appreciate it.
> Maybe it is different in different areas, not for sure.
>
> Janet
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Mary Jo Partyka
> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2020 8:11 PM
> To: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone
> Subject: Re: InstaCart App
>
> Hi,
>
> I have been using Instacart since the pandemic hit in March and we order
> groceries every week.  The app is easy to use and the store personnel are
> cooperative.  The shoppers ask us questions when items are out of stock or
> not good quality and give me a chance to reply with my answer.  The drivers
> bring the groceries to our front door and my husband goes out to get them.
> m.  The shoppers are nice.  One time one of the items we ordered was
> missing.  We called the support line and they credited our account for the
> missing item.  It could have been misplaced when the items were being rung
> up.  We are very pleased with the service.
>
>
>> On Sep 6, 2020, at 5:57 PM, Holly Jensen 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I wanted to write in and ask if anyone in this group has had experience
>> using InstaCart? If so, is the app accessible, are the drivers
>> communicative, etc? Many thanks.
>>
>> Holly
>>
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Siri not working with YouTube

[Tim Leet]

 Is anybody else having a problem with Siri not opening the YouTube app? My 
wife and I both tried to open YouTube tonight and Siri said  (YouTube hasn’t 
added support for that with Siri. ).Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Apple is greedy, news!

[chaltain]

Did I miss something? In the article that was posted, it says:

While Google also takes a 30 percent cut from in-app purchases, hosts will 
still get 100 percent of their revenue from Android purchases where Facebook 
Pay is available. Reuters notes, however, that the line Facebook added for 
Android stating that it doesn’t charge fees for purchases isn’t showing up 
either.

Isn't this saying Google is waiving it's 30% if Facebook Pay is used? How does 
this equate with the media not saying anything about Google? Isn't this counter 
to the statement about how greedy Google is?

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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 9:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple is greedy, news!
> 
> Epic try to get a sweet deal from Apple. Apple said no. Epic got mad. What
> nobody is talking about is it epic is also going after Google, which charges 
> the
> same 30% cut that Apple does, although most of the tech press wants to
> concentrate only on Apple. I wonder why. Might it be that it’s because Google
> will sell your grandma if you’ll let them? Apple isn’t perfect. But they 
> don’t make
> their money off of selling you.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Sep 6, 2020, at 7:09 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> >
> > This sounds like the epic games situation also.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of janet gross
> > Sent: Monday, 7 September 2020 1:38 pm
> > To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
> > Subject: Apple is greedy, news!
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> > I recently came across this and just thought some might be interested.
> >
> > August 28, 2020
> > Facebook says Apple blocked message noting 30 percent App Store fee Apple
> reportedly refused to display the transparency notice for FB's paid online 
> events.
> > 1. Apple Blocks Facebook Message About App Fees Just when we thought we'd
> run out of "Apple is greedy" news, the tech giant reportedly blocked 
> Facebook's
> message to users who organize paid online events. The message isn't showing
> up on Android, either, but Apple seems to bear the brunt of the coverage, of
> course.
> > Apple wouldn't allow Facebook to tell its users that the tech giant is 
> > getting a
> cut from the sales of paid online events, the social network told Reuters. 
> Earlier
> this month, Facebook launched a new feature that gives businesses and creators
> a way to charge for the online events they host on the platform. Since the
> company rolled it out to help small businesses during the pandemic, it vowed 
> not
> to collect fees from paid events "for at least the next year."
> >
> > Facebook said it also asked Apple to reduce its 30 percent App Store tax or 
> > to
> at least allow it to use Facebook Pay to collect users' payments directly. By
> doing the latter, it can absorb the costs for businesses, which will then get 
> 100
> percent of the revenue they generate. Apple refused on both counts, prompting
> the social network to join other developers like Epic Games in putting Apple 
> on
> blast for its App Store policies.
> >
> > In an effort to let its users know that not everything they pay will go to 
> > the
> hosts, Facebook added a notice on the purchase screen for iOS clearly stating
> that Apple will take a 30 percent cut. Apparently, though, Apple blocked it 
> from
> showing that notice to users, citing an App Store rule that prohibits 
> developers
> from showing "irrelevant" information. The company told Reuters in a
> statement:
> >
> > "Now more than ever, we should have the option to help people understand
> where money they intend for small businesses actually goes. Unfortunately
> Apple rejected our transparency notice around their 30% tax but we are still
> working to make that information available inside the app experience."
> >
> > While Google also takes a 30 percent cut from in-app purchases, hosts will 
> > still
> get 100 percent of their revenue from Android purchases where Facebook Pay is
> available. Reuters notes, however, that the line Facebook added for Android
> stating that it doesn't charge fees for purchases isn't showing up either.
> >
> > https://www.engadget.com/facebook-says-apple-blocked-30-percent-app-
> store-fee-notice-100501984.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Peace Be With You.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Apple is greedy, news!

[Mary Otten]

Epic try to get a sweet deal from Apple. Apple said no. Epic got mad. What 
nobody is talking about is it epic is also going after Google, which charges 
the same 30% cut that Apple does, although most of the tech press wants to 
concentrate only on Apple. I wonder why. Might it be that it’s because Google 
will sell your grandma if you’ll let them? Apple isn’t perfect. But they don’t 
make their money off of selling you.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 6, 2020, at 7:09 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> This sounds like the epic games situation also.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
> gross
> Sent: Monday, 7 September 2020 1:38 pm
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
> Subject: Apple is greedy, news!
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> I recently came across this and just thought some might be interested.  
> 
> August 28, 2020
> Facebook says Apple blocked message noting 30 percent App Store fee Apple 
> reportedly refused to display the transparency notice for FB's paid online 
> events.
> 1. Apple Blocks Facebook Message About App Fees Just when we thought we'd run 
> out of "Apple is greedy" news, the tech giant reportedly blocked Facebook's 
> message to users who organize paid online events. The message isn't showing 
> up on Android, either, but Apple seems to bear the brunt of the coverage, of 
> course. 
> Apple wouldn't allow Facebook to tell its users that the tech giant is 
> getting a cut from the sales of paid online events, the social network told 
> Reuters. Earlier this month, Facebook launched a new feature that gives 
> businesses and creators a way to charge for the online events they host on 
> the platform. Since the company rolled it out to help small businesses during 
> the pandemic, it vowed not to collect fees from paid events "for at least the 
> next year."
> 
> Facebook said it also asked Apple to reduce its 30 percent App Store tax or 
> to at least allow it to use Facebook Pay to collect users' payments directly. 
> By doing the latter, it can absorb the costs for businesses, which will then 
> get 100 percent of the revenue they generate. Apple refused on both counts, 
> prompting the social network to join other developers like Epic Games in 
> putting Apple on blast for its App Store policies.
> 
> In an effort to let its users know that not everything they pay will go to 
> the hosts, Facebook added a notice on the purchase screen for iOS clearly 
> stating that Apple will take a 30 percent cut. Apparently, though, Apple 
> blocked it from showing that notice to users, citing an App Store rule that 
> prohibits developers from showing "irrelevant" information. The company told 
> Reuters in a statement:
> 
> "Now more than ever, we should have the option to help people understand 
> where money they intend for small businesses actually goes. Unfortunately 
> Apple rejected our transparency notice around their 30% tax but we are still 
> working to make that information available inside the app experience."
> 
> While Google also takes a 30 percent cut from in-app purchases, hosts will 
> still get 100 percent of their revenue from Android purchases where Facebook 
> Pay is available. Reuters notes, however, that the line Facebook added for 
> Android stating that it doesn't charge fees for purchases isn't showing up 
> either.
> 
> https://www.engadget.com/facebook-says-apple-blocked-30-percent-app-store-fee-notice-100501984.html
> 
> 
> 
> Peace Be With You. 
> 
> 
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Re: how to stop I phone from vibrating

[Gerardo Corripio]

Give the new Hapttic vibration feature a chance; let’s hope that with blind 
folk deactivating they won’t take it away. I love this feature! For those with 
hearing loss especially, it helps tons!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 6 sep 2020, a la(s) 9:06 p.m., Simon A Fogarty  
> escribió:
> 
> Under sounds and haptic within settings 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Monday, 7 September 2020 11:21 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: how to stop I phone from vibrating
> 
> Call apple accessibility and they will help you.  I hated that vibrating 
> thing.  That is the first thing I did when my iPhone updated.
> 
>> On 9/6/20, Dennis Long  wrote:
>> I turned haptics off but I still feel a kind of haptic feel where do I 
>> go to
>> have it not vibrate at all?   Or haptic feel?  Thanks.
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RE: InstaCart App

[llumpkin]

The usual practice is this. I speak for Shipt. You join for a yearly membership 
of $99 and you may can join for a monthly fee. The delivery fee is $10 or so 
for any order up to $35. Anything we order above $35 is free delivery. I don't 
know about sale prices or points. The service is worth it to us because it 
frees us from being dependent on someone.
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 9:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: InstaCart App

Hi All, 
I have often wondered about this service, so if I may please ask you, is this 
service expensive? From my understanding, this service charges $14.95 just to 
use the service, and then they charge a delivery fee of $4.95, and they do not 
honor the sale prices because that is another way they make money? Meaning we 
as customers don't get the actual sale price, and we as customers can't use a 
reward card if we have one, but the shoppers use their personal reward card, so 
then the shoppers also get our points on their own reward card.  I do give a 
tip, so I include this as well.  Do customers have to order a certain amount 
maybe like $30 or 50 to use the service.  I hear so many people saying this is 
a great service, but when I ask them how much does the service charge, no one 
knows for sure.  I could very well be wrong, but this is what I read from the 
agreement on their web site.  So, please let me know if I am wrong, as I would 
appreciate it.  
Maybe it is different in different areas, not for sure.  

Janet 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Jo Partyka
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2020 8:11 PM
To: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone
Subject: Re: InstaCart App

Hi,

I have been using Instacart since the pandemic hit in March and we order 
groceries every week.  The app is easy to use and the store personnel are 
cooperative.  The shoppers ask us questions when items are out of stock or not 
good quality and give me a chance to reply with my answer.  The drivers bring 
the groceries to our front door and my husband goes out to get them.  m.  The 
shoppers are nice.  One time one of the items we ordered was missing.  We 
called the support line and they credited our account for the missing item.  It 
could have been misplaced when the items were being rung up.  We are very 
pleased with the service.


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Re: Apple is greedy, news!

[Dave]

how do you really feel? lol


-Original Message- 
From: Mary Otten

Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 7:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple is greedy, news!

This is garbage. Facebook is garbage. Zuckerberg is a criminal. Believe what 
you want if you want to believe Facebook. But I would rather trust Apple, 
which at least most of the time actually cares about my privacy. Zuckerberg 
would sell my grandma if he could.



Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 6, 2020, at 6:37 PM, janet gross  wrote:

Hi Everyone,
I recently came across this and just thought some might be interested.

August 28, 2020
Facebook says Apple blocked message noting 30 percent App Store fee
Apple reportedly refused to display the transparency notice for FB's paid 
online events.

1. Apple Blocks Facebook Message About App Fees
Just when we thought we'd run out of "Apple is greedy" news, the tech 
giant reportedly blocked Facebook's message to users who organize paid 
online events. The message isn't showing up on Android, either, but Apple 
seems to bear the brunt of the coverage, of course.
Apple wouldn't allow Facebook to tell its users that the tech giant is 
getting a cut from the sales of paid online events, the social network 
told Reuters. Earlier this month, Facebook launched a new feature that 
gives businesses and creators a way to charge for the online events they 
host on the platform. Since the company rolled it out to help small 
businesses during the pandemic, it vowed not to collect fees from paid 
events "for at least the next year."


Facebook said it also asked Apple to reduce its 30 percent App Store tax 
or to at least allow it to use Facebook Pay to collect users' payments 
directly. By doing the latter, it can absorb the costs for businesses, 
which will then get 100 percent of the revenue they generate. Apple 
refused on both counts, prompting the social network to join other 
developers like Epic Games in putting Apple on blast for its App Store 
policies.


In an effort to let its users know that not everything they pay will go to 
the hosts, Facebook added a notice on the purchase screen for iOS clearly 
stating that Apple will take a 30 percent cut. Apparently, though, Apple 
blocked it from showing that notice to users, citing an App Store rule 
that prohibits developers from showing "irrelevant" information. The 
company told Reuters in a statement:


"Now more than ever, we should have the option to help people understand 
where money they intend for small businesses actually goes. Unfortunately 
Apple rejected our transparency notice around their 30% tax but we are 
still working to make that information available inside the app 
experience."


While Google also takes a 30 percent cut from in-app purchases, hosts will 
still get 100 percent of their revenue from Android purchases where 
Facebook Pay is available. Reuters notes, however, that the line Facebook 
added for Android stating that it doesn't charge fees for purchases isn't 
showing up either.


https://www.engadget.com/facebook-says-apple-blocked-30-percent-app-store-fee-notice-100501984.html



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RE: InstaCart App

[janet gross]

Hi All, 
I have often wondered about this service, so if I may please ask you, is this 
service expensive? From my understanding, this service charges $14.95 just to 
use the service, and then they charge a delivery fee of $4.95, and they do not 
honor the sale prices because that is another way they make money? Meaning we 
as customers don't get the actual sale price, and we as customers can't use a 
reward card if we have one, but the shoppers use their personal reward card, so 
then the shoppers also get our points on their own reward card.  I do give a 
tip, so I include this as well.  Do customers have to order a certain amount 
maybe like $30 or 50 to use the service.  I hear so many people saying this is 
a great service, but when I ask them how much does the service charge, no one 
knows for sure.  I could very well be wrong, but this is what I read from the 
agreement on their web site.  So, please let me know if I am wrong, as I would 
appreciate it.  
Maybe it is different in different areas, not for sure.  

Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Jo Partyka
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2020 8:11 PM
To: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone
Subject: Re: InstaCart App

Hi,

I have been using Instacart since the pandemic hit in March and we order 
groceries every week.  The app is easy to use and the store personnel are 
cooperative.  The shoppers ask us questions when items are out of stock or not 
good quality and give me a chance to reply with my answer.  The drivers bring 
the groceries to our front door and my husband goes out to get them.  m.  The 
shoppers are nice.  One time one of the items we ordered was missing.  We 
called the support line and they credited our account for the missing item.  It 
could have been misplaced when the items were being rung up.  We are very 
pleased with the service.


> On Sep 6, 2020, at 5:57 PM, Holly Jensen  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I wanted to write in and ask if anyone in this group has had experience using 
> InstaCart? If so, is the app accessible, are the drivers communicative, etc? 
> Many thanks.
> 
> Holly
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RE: Apple is greedy, news!

[Simon A Fogarty]

This sounds like the epic games situation also.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Monday, 7 September 2020 1:38 pm
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Apple is greedy, news!

Hi Everyone,
I recently came across this and just thought some might be interested.  

August 28, 2020
Facebook says Apple blocked message noting 30 percent App Store fee Apple 
reportedly refused to display the transparency notice for FB's paid online 
events.
1. Apple Blocks Facebook Message About App Fees Just when we thought we'd run 
out of "Apple is greedy" news, the tech giant reportedly blocked Facebook's 
message to users who organize paid online events. The message isn't showing up 
on Android, either, but Apple seems to bear the brunt of the coverage, of 
course. 
Apple wouldn't allow Facebook to tell its users that the tech giant is getting 
a cut from the sales of paid online events, the social network told Reuters. 
Earlier this month, Facebook launched a new feature that gives businesses and 
creators a way to charge for the online events they host on the platform. Since 
the company rolled it out to help small businesses during the pandemic, it 
vowed not to collect fees from paid events "for at least the next year."

Facebook said it also asked Apple to reduce its 30 percent App Store tax or to 
at least allow it to use Facebook Pay to collect users' payments directly. By 
doing the latter, it can absorb the costs for businesses, which will then get 
100 percent of the revenue they generate. Apple refused on both counts, 
prompting the social network to join other developers like Epic Games in 
putting Apple on blast for its App Store policies.

In an effort to let its users know that not everything they pay will go to the 
hosts, Facebook added a notice on the purchase screen for iOS clearly stating 
that Apple will take a 30 percent cut. Apparently, though, Apple blocked it 
from showing that notice to users, citing an App Store rule that prohibits 
developers from showing "irrelevant" information. The company told Reuters in a 
statement:

"Now more than ever, we should have the option to help people understand where 
money they intend for small businesses actually goes. Unfortunately Apple 
rejected our transparency notice around their 30% tax but we are still working 
to make that information available inside the app experience."

While Google also takes a 30 percent cut from in-app purchases, hosts will 
still get 100 percent of their revenue from Android purchases where Facebook 
Pay is available. Reuters notes, however, that the line Facebook added for 
Android stating that it doesn't charge fees for purchases isn't showing up 
either.

https://www.engadget.com/facebook-says-apple-blocked-30-percent-app-store-fee-notice-100501984.html



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Re: Apple is greedy, news!

[Mary Otten]

This is garbage. Facebook is garbage. Zuckerberg is a criminal. Believe what 
you want if you want to believe Facebook. But I would rather trust Apple, which 
at least most of the time actually cares about my privacy. Zuckerberg would 
sell my grandma if he could.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 6, 2020, at 6:37 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone, 
> I recently came across this and just thought some might be interested.  
> 
> August 28, 2020
> Facebook says Apple blocked message noting 30 percent App Store fee
> Apple reportedly refused to display the transparency notice for FB's paid 
> online events.
> 1. Apple Blocks Facebook Message About App Fees
> Just when we thought we'd run out of "Apple is greedy" news, the tech giant 
> reportedly blocked Facebook's message to users who organize paid online 
> events. The message isn't showing up on Android, either, but Apple seems to 
> bear the brunt of the coverage, of course. 
> Apple wouldn't allow Facebook to tell its users that the tech giant is 
> getting a cut from the sales of paid online events, the social network told 
> Reuters. Earlier this month, Facebook launched a new feature that gives 
> businesses and creators a way to charge for the online events they host on 
> the platform. Since the company rolled it out to help small businesses during 
> the pandemic, it vowed not to collect fees from paid events "for at least the 
> next year."
> 
> Facebook said it also asked Apple to reduce its 30 percent App Store tax or 
> to at least allow it to use Facebook Pay to collect users' payments directly. 
> By doing the latter, it can absorb the costs for businesses, which will then 
> get 100 percent of the revenue they generate. Apple refused on both counts, 
> prompting the social network to join other developers like Epic Games in 
> putting Apple on blast for its App Store policies.
> 
> In an effort to let its users know that not everything they pay will go to 
> the hosts, Facebook added a notice on the purchase screen for iOS clearly 
> stating that Apple will take a 30 percent cut. Apparently, though, Apple 
> blocked it from showing that notice to users, citing an App Store rule that 
> prohibits developers from showing "irrelevant" information. The company told 
> Reuters in a statement:
> 
> "Now more than ever, we should have the option to help people understand 
> where money they intend for small businesses actually goes. Unfortunately 
> Apple rejected our transparency notice around their 30% tax but we are still 
> working to make that information available inside the app experience."
> 
> While Google also takes a 30 percent cut from in-app purchases, hosts will 
> still get 100 percent of their revenue from Android purchases where Facebook 
> Pay is available. Reuters notes, however, that the line Facebook added for 
> Android stating that it doesn't charge fees for purchases isn't showing up 
> either.
> 
> https://www.engadget.com/facebook-says-apple-blocked-30-percent-app-store-fee-notice-100501984.html
> 
> 
> 
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RE: how to stop I phone from vibrating

[Simon A Fogarty]

Under sounds and haptic within settings 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, 7 September 2020 11:21 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how to stop I phone from vibrating

Call apple accessibility and they will help you.  I hated that vibrating thing. 
 That is the first thing I did when my iPhone updated.

On 9/6/20, Dennis Long  wrote:
> I turned haptics off but I still feel a kind of haptic feel where do I 
> go to
> have it not vibrate at all?   Or haptic feel?  Thanks.
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Apple is greedy, news!

[janet gross]

Hi Everyone, 
I recently came across this and just thought some might be interested.  

August 28, 2020
Facebook says Apple blocked message noting 30 percent App Store fee
Apple reportedly refused to display the transparency notice for FB's paid 
online events.
1. Apple Blocks Facebook Message About App Fees
Just when we thought we'd run out of "Apple is greedy" news, the tech giant 
reportedly blocked Facebook's message to users who organize paid online events. 
The message isn't showing up on Android, either, but Apple seems to bear the 
brunt of the coverage, of course. 
Apple wouldn't allow Facebook to tell its users that the tech giant is getting 
a cut from the sales of paid online events, the social network told Reuters. 
Earlier this month, Facebook launched a new feature that gives businesses and 
creators a way to charge for the online events they host on the platform. Since 
the company rolled it out to help small businesses during the pandemic, it 
vowed not to collect fees from paid events "for at least the next year."

Facebook said it also asked Apple to reduce its 30 percent App Store tax or to 
at least allow it to use Facebook Pay to collect users' payments directly. By 
doing the latter, it can absorb the costs for businesses, which will then get 
100 percent of the revenue they generate. Apple refused on both counts, 
prompting the social network to join other developers like Epic Games in 
putting Apple on blast for its App Store policies.

In an effort to let its users know that not everything they pay will go to the 
hosts, Facebook added a notice on the purchase screen for iOS clearly stating 
that Apple will take a 30 percent cut. Apparently, though, Apple blocked it 
from showing that notice to users, citing an App Store rule that prohibits 
developers from showing "irrelevant" information. The company told Reuters in a 
statement:

"Now more than ever, we should have the option to help people understand where 
money they intend for small businesses actually goes. Unfortunately Apple 
rejected our transparency notice around their 30% tax but we are still working 
to make that information available inside the app experience."

While Google also takes a 30 percent cut from in-app purchases, hosts will 
still get 100 percent of their revenue from Android purchases where Facebook 
Pay is available. Reuters notes, however, that the line Facebook added for 
Android stating that it doesn't charge fees for purchases isn't showing up 
either.

https://www.engadget.com/facebook-says-apple-blocked-30-percent-app-store-fee-notice-100501984.html



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Re: InstaCart App

[Mary Jo Partyka]

Hi,

I have been using Instacart since the pandemic hit in March and we order 
groceries every week.  The app is easy to use and the store personnel are 
cooperative.  The shoppers ask us questions when items are out of stock or not 
good quality and give me a chance to reply with my answer.  The drivers bring 
the groceries to our front door and my husband goes out to get them.  m.  The 
shoppers are nice.  One time one of the items we ordered was missing.  We 
called the support line and they credited our account for the missing item.  It 
could have been misplaced when the items were being rung up.  We are very 
pleased with the service.


> On Sep 6, 2020, at 5:57 PM, Holly Jensen  
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> Hello,
> 
> I wanted to write in and ask if anyone in this group has had experience using 
> InstaCart? If so, is the app accessible, are the drivers communicative, etc? 
> Many thanks.
> 
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Re: how to stop I phone from vibrating

[Mike B]

Hi Richard,

My setting for vibrations is off, but like I've said since I've got this 
phone, there's a slight vibration I can't get rid of and it's only a light 
vibration and I believe it's the phone speakers.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2020 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: how to stop I phone from vibrating


you Settings, Accessibility, Touch, Vibrations, which default to on, the 
explnation below it says: When this switch is off, all vibration on your 
iPhone will be disabled, including those for earthquake, tsunami and other 
emergency alerts.







Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert


  On Sep 6, 2020, at 4:44 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:


   Hi Dennis,


  , humbly appologize. You go to settings, accessibility, VoiceOver, audio 
then sounds and haptics. I wink you can turn them off in here.



  Jenn and Kumi


On Sep 6, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:



I turned haptics off but I still feel a kind of haptic feel where do I 
go to have it not vibrate at all?   Or haptic feel?  Thanks.


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Re: Shipt, was Re: InstaCart App

[Shirley Baker]

That's not always true. For instance on Friday, the same person who shopped for 
me also brought the order and you can chat with them about something they say 
is out of stock and you want to replace with something else.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 6, 2020, at 6:36 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
> 
> It has been our understanding that for Instacart, someone does the shopping 
> and someone else does the delivery which we don't like. In shipt, the shopper 
> completes the entire process from shopping to delivery.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
> Schmidt
> Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 6:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Shipt, was Re: InstaCart App
> 
> I think Shipt is in my area, too, but I have never used it. How do the two 
> apps compare, both from an accessibility point of view, and in general. 
> Thanks for any opinions. 
> 
> As an aside, yesterday, somebody was lamenting the fact that in the IOS 13 
> mail app, individual messages can not be trashed. I had to figure out how to 
> do it for this reply, to be able to reply to the correct message. Expand the 
> thread, and it can be done. There is a delete button in the bottom left 
> corner of the screen. I am glad it allegedly will be better soon. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20
> 
> On Sep 6, 2020, at 6:07 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
> 
> I have a little experience with Instacart and the app and pc interface were 
> accessible. Our main experience, however, is with shipt. The people there 
> have been very supportive in making their app and pc interface accessible and 
> their support people have been quick to respond to any problems we had with 
> the shopping or the interfaces.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly 
> Jensen
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: InstaCart App
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> Hello,
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> Many thanks.
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Re: how to stop I phone from vibrating

[Mike B]

Hi Dennis,

I have all Haptics turned off, but I believe that slight vibration we're 
feeling is actually the speakers making the back of the phone vibrate.  If 
there's another setting to turn off all vibrations I have yet to find one.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

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Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2020 4:17 PM
Subject: how to stop I phone from vibrating


I turned haptics off but I still feel a kind of haptic feel where do I go to 
have it not vibrate at all?   Or haptic feel?  Thanks.


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Re: how to stop I phone from vibrating

[Richard Turner]

you Settings, Accessibility, Touch, Vibrations, which default to on, the 
explnation below it says: When this switch is off, all vibration on your iPhone 
will be disabled, including those for earthquake, tsunami and other emergency 
alerts.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 6, 2020, at 4:44 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:

 Hi Dennis,

, humbly appologize. You go to settings, accessibility, VoiceOver, audio then 
sounds and haptics. I wink you can turn them off in here.


Jenn and Kumi

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I turned haptics off but I still feel a kind of haptic feel where do I go to 
have it not vibrate at all?   Or haptic feel?  Thanks.

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Re: how to stop I phone from vibrating

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Dennis,

, humbly appologize. You go to settings, accessibility, VoiceOver, audio then 
sounds and haptics. I wink you can turn them off in here.


Jenn and Kumi

> On Sep 6, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
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> 
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> have it not vibrate at all?   Or haptic feel?  Thanks.
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Re: how to stop I phone from vibrating

[Arnold Schmidt]

As my dad would have said, that's why they make all kinds. I think those 
vibrations are wonderful. I have turned all those noises completely off, and 
had removed sounds, I call them noises, from the rotor, although I have since 
put it back in the unlikely event I may need them in the future. That little 
vibration lets me know when my finger touches an icon, and that is all I need. 
I think it is wonderful, although I am glad the vibration; apparently can be 
turned off for those who don't agree with me. As Sly Stone said, different 
strokes for different folks. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Sep 6, 2020, at 7:21 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

Call apple accessibility and they will help you.  I hated that
vibrating thing.  That is the first thing I did when my iPhone
updated.

> On 9/6/20, Dennis Long  wrote:
> I turned haptics off but I still feel a kind of haptic feel where do I go
> to
> have it not vibrate at all?   Or haptic feel?  Thanks.
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RE: Shipt, was Re: InstaCart App

[llumpkin]

It has been our understanding that for Instacart, someone does the shopping and 
someone else does the delivery which we don't like. In shipt, the shopper 
completes the entire process from shopping to delivery.


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Subject: Shipt, was Re: InstaCart App

I think Shipt is in my area, too, but I have never used it. How do the two apps 
compare, both from an accessibility point of view, and in general. Thanks for 
any opinions. 

As an aside, yesterday, somebody was lamenting the fact that in the IOS 13 mail 
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screen. I am glad it allegedly will be better soon. 

Arnold Schmidt 
Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Sep 6, 2020, at 6:07 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:

I have a little experience with Instacart and the app and pc interface were 
accessible. Our main experience, however, is with shipt. The people there have 
been very supportive in making their app and pc interface accessible and their 
support people have been quick to respond to any problems we had with the 
shopping or the interfaces.


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Subject: InstaCart App

Hello,

I wanted to write in and ask if anyone in this group has had experience using 
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Many thanks.

Holly

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Re: how to stop I phone from vibrating

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Dennis,

I think all you have to do to turn all haptics off in VoiceOver sounds. So, go 
into settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver sound and haptics. I think you can turn 
the rest of them off in there.   

Jenn and Kumi

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Shipt, was Re: InstaCart App

[Arnold Schmidt]

I think Shipt is in my area, too, but I have never used it. How do the two apps 
compare, both from an accessibility point of view, and in general. Thanks for 
any opinions. 

As an aside, yesterday, somebody was lamenting the fact that in the IOS 13 mail 
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and it can be done. There is a delete button in the bottom left corner of the 
screen. I am glad it allegedly will be better soon. 

Arnold Schmidt 
Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Sep 6, 2020, at 6:07 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:

I have a little experience with Instacart and the app and pc interface were 
accessible. Our main experience, however, is with shipt. The people there have 
been very supportive in making their app and pc interface accessible and their 
support people have been quick to respond to any problems we had with the 
shopping or the interfaces.


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Jensen
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: InstaCart App

Hello,

I wanted to write in and ask if anyone in this group has had experience using 
InstaCart? If so, is the app accessible, are the drivers communicative, etc? 
Many thanks.

Holly

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Re: how to stop I phone from vibrating

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Call apple accessibility and they will help you.  I hated that
vibrating thing.  That is the first thing I did when my iPhone
updated.

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how to stop I phone from vibrating

[Dennis Long]

I turned haptics off but I still feel a kind of haptic feel where do I go to
have it not vibrate at all?   Or haptic feel?  Thanks.

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Re: InstaCart App

[Wayne Scott]

My wife and I us
Instacart app every month. It works great. We have no problems. We've had 
nothing but positive experiences with them. Prices are higher because that's 
not the final charge. It's a window. Usually the charge comes down after 
shopping. 

Wayne Scott  
 

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> accessible. Our main experience, however, is with shipt. The people there 
> have been very supportive in making their app and pc interface accessible and 
> their support people have been quick to respond to any problems we had with 
> the shopping or the interfaces.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly 
> Jensen
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: InstaCart App
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I wanted to write in and ask if anyone in this group has had experience using 
> InstaCart? If so, is the app accessible, are the drivers communicative, etc? 
> Many thanks.
> 
> Holly
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Re: InstaCart App

[Jed Barton]

Instacart rocks.  I actually just ordered some stuff this afternoon,
and it was perfect.

On 9/6/20, llump...@austin.rr.com  wrote:
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> have been very supportive in making their app and pc interface accessible
> and their support people have been quick to respond to any problems we had
> with the shopping or the interfaces.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
> Jensen
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: InstaCart App
>
> Hello,
>
> I wanted to write in and ask if anyone in this group has had experience
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> communicative, etc? Many thanks.
>
> Holly
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RE: InstaCart App

[llumpkin]

I have a little experience with Instacart and the app and pc interface were 
accessible. Our main experience, however, is with shipt. The people there have 
been very supportive in making their app and pc interface accessible and their 
support people have been quick to respond to any problems we had with the 
shopping or the interfaces.


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Jensen
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: InstaCart App

Hello,

I wanted to write in and ask if anyone in this group has had experience using 
InstaCart? If so, is the app accessible, are the drivers communicative, etc? 
Many thanks.

Holly

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InstaCart App

[Holly Jensen]

Hello,

I wanted to write in and ask if anyone in this group has had experience using 
InstaCart? If so, is the app accessible, are the drivers communicative, etc? 
Many thanks.

Holly

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Re: Three finger double tap and hold and swipe up gesture to copy selected text not workingI

[Tali Sarnetzky]

Thanks Richard. That was a very clear explanation. I really appreciate it.

On 9/6/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> If you use the rotor after adding Text Selection to the rotor, it is quite
> doable, though maybe a bit tedious.
> Text Selection is not on the rotor by default so you have to go and add it.
> IN brief, the way it works is to first get to the beginning of the text you
> wish to copy, turn the rotor to Text Selection.
> Now, flick up or down with one finger through the options, character, word,
> line, page, select all.
> When you get to the one you want, flick right and that amount of text will
> be selected.
> Keep flicking until all is selected.
> Then, turn the rotor to edit, and flick up or down to copy and double tap.
>
> Then, go where you want to paste and turn to edit and flick up or down to
> paste and double tap.
> You can also define custom gestures under VoiceOver settings, commands.
> I set a two finger flick right to paste and a two finger flick left to
> copy.
> So, once the selection is done I don’t have to use the edit on the rotor.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
> Herbert
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Candy
> Lowe
> Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 7:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Three finger double tap and hold and swipe up gesture to copy
> selected text not workingI
>
> I have so many problems with copying and pasting.  Just say for instance, I
> see a little saying that I enjoy posted on facebook.  I can not find a way
> to copy and paste that text unless I do the quadruple 3 finger tap.  I do
> not find any way to select the particular text.  I hardly use my windows
> computer at all any more, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but, it seems
> like you were able to select and copy  any text you wanted.  I just tried
> setting the 2 finger gestures that Allen was talking about, but, still can't
> get anything to  work.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Sep 6, 2020, at 7:39 AM, Jennie Facer
> mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For some reason, when I select some text like from an email with the text
> selection, I can’t get any gesture to work that I set for that copy command;
> however, if I do a select all in the edit function, then I can use the
> gesture to copy. How weird!
>
> Jenn
> Jenn and Kumi
>
>
> On Sep 5, 2020, at 11:13 PM, Richard Turner
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>  'so why I deleted that one and changed it to a two finger swipe left. And
> I made paste a two finger swipe right.
> I could never get that three finger oneto work.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
> Herbert
>
>
> On Sep 5, 2020, at 6:43 PM, Alan Lemly
> mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
>
> I'm not sure when Apple introduced this Voiceover gesture but I believe it
> was in one of the iOS 13 versions. If you go to Settings, Accessibility,
> Voiceover, Commands, All commands, Editing, and Copy, a predefined gesture
> of three finger double tap, hold, and flick up is listed. However, when I
> start typing a text message and select all of it and try this gesture,
> nothing is copied.
>
> Is this gesture working for anyone? I'm wondering why it's listed here if it
> doesn't work. I created my own copy gesture on this screen of a two finger
> swipe left as described by Richard Turner and it works just fine.
>
> Thanks in advance for letting me know if this gesture works for you and if
> so, the trick for making it do so.
>
> Alan Lemly
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RE: Three finger double tap and hold and swipe up gesture to copy selected text not workingI

[Richard Turner]

If you use the rotor after adding Text Selection to the rotor, it is quite 
doable, though maybe a bit tedious.
Text Selection is not on the rotor by default so you have to go and add it.
IN brief, the way it works is to first get to the beginning of the text you 
wish to copy, turn the rotor to Text Selection.
Now, flick up or down with one finger through the options, character, word, 
line, page, select all.
When you get to the one you want, flick right and that amount of text will be 
selected.
Keep flicking until all is selected.
Then, turn the rotor to edit, and flick up or down to copy and double tap.

Then, go where you want to paste and turn to edit and flick up or down to paste 
and double tap.
You can also define custom gestures under VoiceOver settings, commands.
I set a two finger flick right to paste and a two finger flick left to copy.
So, once the selection is done I don’t have to use the edit on the rotor.







Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Candy 
Lowe
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 7:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Three finger double tap and hold and swipe up gesture to copy 
selected text not workingI

I have so many problems with copying and pasting.  Just say for instance, I see 
a little saying that I enjoy posted on facebook.  I can not find a way to copy 
and paste that text unless I do the quadruple 3 finger tap.  I do not find any 
way to select the particular text.  I hardly use my windows computer at all any 
more, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but, it seems like you were able to 
select and copy  any text you wanted.  I just tried setting the 2 finger 
gestures that Allen was talking about, but, still can't get anything to  work.
Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 6, 2020, at 7:39 AM, Jennie Facer 
mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

For some reason, when I select some text like from an email with the text 
selection, I can’t get any gesture to work that I set for that copy command; 
however, if I do a select all in the edit function, then I can use the gesture 
to copy. How weird!

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi


On Sep 5, 2020, at 11:13 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 'so why I deleted that one and changed it to a two finger swipe left. And I 
made paste a two finger swipe right.
I could never get that three finger oneto work.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Sep 5, 2020, at 6:43 PM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi List,

I'm not sure when Apple introduced this Voiceover gesture but I believe it was 
in one of the iOS 13 versions. If you go to Settings, Accessibility, Voiceover, 
Commands, All commands, Editing, and Copy, a predefined gesture  of three 
finger double tap, hold, and flick up is listed. However, when I start typing a 
text message and select all of it and try this gesture, nothing is copied.

Is this gesture working for anyone? I'm wondering why it's listed here if it 
doesn't work. I created my own copy gesture on this screen of a two finger 
swipe left as described by Richard Turner and it works just fine.

Thanks in advance for letting me know if this gesture works for you and if so, 
the trick for making it do so.

Alan Lemly
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Re: Three finger double tap and hold and swipe up gesture to copy selected text not workingI

[Candy Lowe]

I have so many problems with copying and pasting.  Just say for instance, I see 
a little saying that I enjoy posted on facebook.  I can not find a way to copy 
and paste that text unless I do the quadruple 3 finger tap.  I do not find any 
way to select the particular text.  I hardly use my windows computer at all any 
more, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but, it seems like you were able to 
select and copy  any text you wanted.  I just tried setting the 2 finger 
gestures that Allen was talking about, but, still can't get anything to  work.  
 

Sent from my iPhone  

> On Sep 6, 2020, at 7:39 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> For some reason, when I select some text like from an email with the text 
> selection, I can’t get any gesture to work that I set for that copy command; 
> however, if I do a select all in the edit function, then I can use the 
> gesture to copy. How weird!
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>>> On Sep 5, 2020, at 11:13 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>  'so why I deleted that one and changed it to a two finger swipe left. And 
>> I made paste a two finger swipe right.
>> I could never get that three finger oneto work.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
>> Herbert
>> 
>>> On Sep 5, 2020, at 6:43 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi List,
>>>  
>>> I'm not sure when Apple introduced this Voiceover gesture but I believe it 
>>> was in one of the iOS 13 versions. If you go to Settings, Accessibility, 
>>> Voiceover, Commands, All commands, Editing, and Copy, a predefined gesture  
>>> of three finger double tap, hold, and flick up is listed. However, when I 
>>> start typing a text message and select all of it and try this gesture, 
>>> nothing is copied.
>>>  
>>> Is this gesture working for anyone? I'm wondering why it's listed here if 
>>> it doesn't work. I created my own copy gesture on this screen of a two 
>>> finger swipe left as described by Richard Turner and it works just fine.
>>>  
>>> Thanks in advance for letting me know if this gesture works for you and if 
>>> so, the trick for making it do so.
>>>  
>>> Alan Lemly
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Re: Three finger double tap and hold and swipe up gesture to copy selected text not working

[Jennie Facer]

Hi,

For some reason, when I select some text like from an email with the text 
selection, I can’t get any gesture to work that I set for that copy command; 
however, if I do a select all in the edit function, then I can use the gesture 
to copy. How weird!

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Sep 5, 2020, at 11:13 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  'so why I deleted that one and changed it to a two finger swipe left. And I 
> made paste a two finger swipe right.
> I could never get that three finger oneto work.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
>>> On Sep 5, 2020, at 6:43 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi List,
>>  
>> I'm not sure when Apple introduced this Voiceover gesture but I believe it 
>> was in one of the iOS 13 versions. If you go to Settings, Accessibility, 
>> Voiceover, Commands, All commands, Editing, and Copy, a predefined gesture  
>> of three finger double tap, hold, and flick up is listed. However, when I 
>> start typing a text message and select all of it and try this gesture, 
>> nothing is copied.
>>  
>> Is this gesture working for anyone? I'm wondering why it's listed here if it 
>> doesn't work. I created my own copy gesture on this screen of a two finger 
>> swipe left as described by Richard Turner and it works just fine.
>>  
>> Thanks in advance for letting me know if this gesture works for you and if 
>> so, the trick for making it do so.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
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RE: Caps Lock On This S E

[Tom Rash]

Apparently there may be more ways than one to do this.  The way I accomplish 
this is to hold your finger on the shift key for a couple of seconds, then you 
can flick down to choose all caps.  , etc.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 1:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Caps Lock On This S E

I will have some thoughts in another post about my impressions so far, but my 
first question: What happened to caps lock? Is it a diferent gesture now? On my 
iphone 6, it is a triple  tap after selecting shift. It doesn't work on here, 
even though it is turned on in settings, general, keyboard. Thanks for any 
information. 

Arnold Schmidt 


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Re: Caps Lock On This S E

[Richard Turner]

It is now  a quadruple tap.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 6, 2020, at 1:37 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:

I will have some thoughts in another post about my impressions so far, but my 
first question: What happened to caps lock? Is it a diferent gesture now? On my 
iphone 6, it is a triple  tap after selecting shift. It doesn't work on here, 
even though it is turned on in settings, general, keyboard. Thanks for any 
information.

Arnold Schmidt


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RE: Apple's Siri & YouTube MobileApp & iOS13

[davycuppens]

Richard 

I have ani pad pro 2020 on which I've not done app updates for one month now 
soa n old youtube version and it has the same glidge so do report to Apple!

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard Turner
Verzonden: zaterdag 5 september 2020 20:09
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: Apple's Siri & YouTube MobileApp & iOS13

I really suspect that one of the recent YouTube updates triggered this behavior.
Where on Earth do you go to report this to Google?

I've never found a clear way to do that.  I also have not put a lot of energy 
into it, I have to admit.


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 11:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple's Siri & YouTube MobileApp & iOS13

It's not clear to me if this is an issue with the Youtube app or IOS 13.7. The 
fact that it stopped working when upgrading to IOS 13.7 is a good clue, but 
that doesn't mean that this upgrade didn't just expose something Google was 
doing wrong in the Youtube app. I'd start by reporting this to Google, which I 
just did, but I'd encourage others to do it as well.

Note that this doesn't seem to be just because this is a Google app or that 
there's some feud going on between Apple and Google, since the youtube Music 
app works just fine with Siri.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Priscilla Garces (prisci)
> Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 10:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple's Siri & YouTube MobileApp & iOS13
> 
> Hi,
> When I try to open the YouTube app, I also receive the message “ 
> YouTube hasn’t added support for that with Siri. “
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Sep 5, 2020, at 9:37 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> >
> > If Siri could close apps as well as open them, then I'd be more 
> > willing to use it to open apps.
> >
> >> On 9/5/20, pegkan...@gmail.com  wrote:
> >> On my part, sometimes it’s just because I’m lazy, and know that I 
> >> can open apps that way if I choose. It’s a luxury of choice.
> >>
> >> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
> >>
>  On Sep 5, 2020, at 8:55 AM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>  
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> What is the point of using Siri to open apps.  I never ever use 
> >>> this feature of Siri.  For some reason ever since my iPhone turned 
> >>> Traitor and updated on me, Siri hasn't worked all that well.  I 
> >>> hope things settle down when IOS 14 comes out.  Also, I suppose, I 
> >>> should really delete some books off my iPhone, as there isn't much 
> >>> left of my 256 gigs, since so much of it is taken up with audio 
> >>> books from both bard, and now audible.
> >>>
>  On 9/5/20, davycupp...@gmail.com  wrote:
>  Please do all report to Apple. AND DO report IT NOW don't sit 
>  back and relax like 90% of us DO!
> 
>  -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
>  Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens 
>  Robin
>  Verzonden: vrijdag 4 september 2020 23:30
>  Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
>  Onderwerp: RE: Apple's Siri & YouTube MobileApp & iOS13
> 
>  Since  it  still Works on  Apple's iOS12, (I  Think) the 
>  Problem/Issue lies with  Apple's
>  iOS: More Specifically; Apple's iOS13.
>  &
>  MyReasoning for this is: Recently, Google  PushedOut an Update to 
>  its YouTube MobileApp, which GreatlyReduced the  Volume/Sound 
>  when  OpeningUp  the YouTube MobileApp, & this Issue/Problem  was 
>  Experienced on Both  iOS12 as well as iOS13, & this is "why"  (I
>  Believe) this Time,  the Fault lies with Apple & its iOS updates
>  (iOS13)
> 
>  At 12:54 PM 9/4/2020, you wrote:
> > Well, it worked fine until the last updates.
> > Maybe Google and Apple are having a spat again.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Richard
> > "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he 
> > must pass himself,† and we forget that only grace can break 
> > the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that 
> > while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve 
> > never once regretted extending it.)"Â - Edward Herbert
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >  On Behalf Of pegkan...@gmail.com
> > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 12:50 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Apple's Siri & YouTube MobileApp & iOS13
> >
> > Hi,
> > I was told, that the reason this app is not supported by Siri, 
> > 

Caps Lock On This S E

[Arnold Schmidt]

I will have some thoughts in another post about my impressions so far, but my 
first question: What happened to caps lock? Is it a diferent gesture now? On my 
iphone 6, it is a triple  tap after selecting shift. It doesn't work on here, 
even though it is turned on in settings, general, keyboard. Thanks for any 
information. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

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