date:20201117

Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition 
mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. 

Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll 
probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it 
might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen 
and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to 
describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better 
description of the image, but turning it off,  as it were, didn't turn it 
completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was 
able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me 
on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this 
should report it to them, being that  the more complaints they have about a 
given issue might make it seem more important.

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> 
Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.

 

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Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to 
describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.  I 
have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, 
etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I 
wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to 
get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before 
disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.

 

Viola

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?

“night sky”

 

Anyone out there know what it represents?

 

Regards…..Reg

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Hello Listers,

 

What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked?

 

Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along 
with flashlight and battery usage?

 

Noe

 

 

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RE: Removing SIM Cards

2020-11-17 Thread Simon A Fogarty

Yes by hell it is something a blind person can do,

 If you can't do it then we'll have to take your fingers off you,

It's a simple case of pressing the little pin in to the hole and pressing 
firmly for the drawer to come out.

Just take your time,
You'll find it really simple to do.

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Sent: Wednesday, 18 November 2020 9:48 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Removing SIM Cards

Hi, is removing a SIM card something a blind person can easily accomplish 
independently? I'm trying to switch out a card from a 6S to an SE 2020. The 
steps appear easy enough when I looked it up, but I also don't want to 
accidentally mangle my device slot. Any thoughts?

Joe

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Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-17 Thread Arnold Schmidt

I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it 
might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen 
and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to 
describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better 
description of the image, but turning it off,  as it were, didn't turn it 
completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was 
able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me 
on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this 
should report it to them, being that  the more complaints they have about a 
given issue might make it seem more important.

Arnold Schmidt 
 

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On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:


Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> 
Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.
 
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Chaltain at Gmail
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
 
I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to 
describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.  I 
have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, 
etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I 
wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to 
get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before 
disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. 
 
Arnold Schmidt 
 

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On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson  wrote:


I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.
 
Viola
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
 
I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?
“night sky”
 
Anyone out there know what it represents?
 
Regards…..Reg
 
 
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Noe Villeda
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
 
Hello Listers,
 
What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked?
 
Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along 
with flashlight and battery usage?
 
Noe
 
 
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Re: Hearing the name of the group

2020-11-17 Thread Flor Lynch

No, the owner of a Googlegroup can set it up with the groupname in the 
subject line if they wish.
I own a Googlegroup and when I was setting it up I found the option to add 
the groupname to the subject line of all outgoing messages. To make things 
simple for everyone, I decided then to add it. (Since one member had already 
complained to me about that lack when I was testing things out with starting 
the group before I'd completed everything.)


-Original Message- 
From: Alan Lemly

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 9:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Hearing the name of the group

Maria,

I expect the only fix for not hearing the group name would be for them to 
move the list to Groups.io which isn't likely to happen.


Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Maria Campbell

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 3:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Hearing the name of the group

When I get a message from this group, I don't hear the name of the group? 
Is there a fix?


thanks.


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RE: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

2020-11-17 Thread kitty hevener

O, I ran in to that problem when I was trying to subscribe.  Turns out there is 
a button that is incorectly labeled.  I can’t remember it, but seems that it 
was located just above the button that you want (perhaps start button or 
something like that).  With sighted help, I did find that pressing enter on the 
incorrectly labeled button will let u finish that step.  I know this is vague, 
but somehow, I hope it is helpful.  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

Online there is a $1 price per four months for their Premiere streaming 
package. I'm trying to subscribe, but I get all the way to step three of three 
in the checkout process, and then cannot accept their customer agreement. So 
far I've tried on three different browsers on my Windows machine, and using 
safari with my iPhone, and Google Chrome on my Android phone.  The only thing I 
haven't tried using is my amazon Fire table. All other options exhibit the 
exact same results.

So, if this is so inaccessible just to simply sign up. I guess I'll pass.

~Ann

On 11/17/2020 2:26 PM, Alan Emlyn wrote:

Call them at 866-635-2349 and ask them for their best discounted price on their 
premier streaming service. They usually have it for $5 to $6 a month for six 
months. You might have to pay up front but it is a good price. They should be 
able to tell you how to set up an account at the same time.

Alan Lemly  

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS

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  on behalf of 
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Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 12:40:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com    

Subject: RE: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM 

I am trying to subscribe to SiriusXM, can anyone tell me exactly how to 
accomplish this?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

Shirley,

Were you able to log into your Sirius account with the StarPlayrX app? There 
isn't a lot to figure out once your logged in. All the available channels are 
presented in categories and as you drill down on them, the channels are listed 
in text lists with the channel number provided. I find it much easier to get 
info about my available channels using this app and I can then ask Alexa to 
play them on my Echo.

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS

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Shirley Baker mailto:shirleyba...@comcast.net> >
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:34:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM 

I've not been able to do much with the app as far as my phone goes. I can tell 
my echo device to play a specific channel but when opening the app on my phone, 
I am not sure how to make it work. I was able to read the list of holiday 
channels.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Wayne Merritt   > wrote:
> 
> There's a lot to like about the starPlayrX app, but there are also a
> number of things missing from it that are in the regular siriusXM app.
> Such as: ability to jump from song to song, the "Go live" button to
> quickly jump to the currently playing live time on a track or
> broadcast, and favorites. Granted, I highly wish the regular Sirius
> app used the rotor actions like many other apps do with favorites. As
> of yet, that is my only real gripe with the Sirius app. It can be
> cumbersome to use if you are new, but I've gotten quite comfortable
> with it over the last 6 months. Not taking anything away from this
> free app people have found. I would like to see the free app develop
> further. Surely it is possible to be free, simple, but also offer
> things for the intermediate/advanced users.
> 
> Be well,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
>> On 11/15/20, Chris Judd >  > wrote:
>> Hi Julie,
>> What I figured out was, if you go in to a category, and double tap on a
>> station, and it starts playing, you will see an option that says preset
>> off, if you double tap on the toggle, and make it say on, then I'm
>> thinking it will make some sort of favorite, but I can't access them.
>> Chris
>>> On 11/15/2020 6:42 PM, Julie Dawson wrote:
>>> Dear Chris,
>>> How do you turn on the presets? I just

RE: Should FB app open if clicking on a link in FB email?

2020-11-17 Thread R Van Lant

Ok, I guess this makes sense.  I wish it would just open the app.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Should FB app open if clicking on a link in FB email?

Hello,

I too run into this situation when clicking on a link in an email from FB. It 
always takes me to Safari where it wants me to sign in to my FB account before 
it goes on. Once I do enter my FB userid and password, I then get asked if I 
want to use the FB app instead of Safari.

I think this happens because I do not have the FB option to "always stay logged 
onto FB" turned on.

So, I tend to simply go directly to the FB app instead of trying to click on 
the link in the FB email.

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB

On Nov 17, 2020, at 12:27 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:

Hi,
In my limited experience, it  seems that the iPhone is typically smart enough 
to open a link from an email in the relevant app, if loaded on the phone.  Yes, 
sometimes I get prompted with a pop-up asking if I want to open the link in the 
app or in Safari.  Unfortunately, links from Facebooks emails are the ones that 
I’d like to open the app, yet they don’t.  If you get a notice in your email 
that someone has posted an update in FB and you click on the view link, does it 
open in Safari or the app for you?  Is there a setting I can change to have it 
open the app?  I currently don’t even  get prompted for an option.  My current 
work around is to open FB, find the relevant notification and open if from  
there, but would appreciate knowing if there is a direct way.

Robin – iPhone SE, running current version of FB app and getting up the nerve 
to move to IOS 14.

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RE: Removing SIM Cards

2020-11-17 Thread R Van Lant

Joe,
I did exactly this back in May when I switched phones. I was scared I was going 
to push too hard, but a little extra push did work.  I called Appel 
Accessibility to hold my hand through the process and the guy was reassuring 
that I was not likely to hurt it.  I had the tool that came with the SE.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
Orozco
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 1:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Removing SIM Cards

Hi, is removing a SIM card something a blind person can easily accomplish 
independently? I'm trying to switch out a card from a 6S to an SE 2020. The 
steps appear easy enough when I looked it up, but I also don't want to 
accidentally mangle my device slot. Any thoughts?

Joe

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RE: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

Hi Julian,

No, there is no connection between the SiriusXM satellite radios and apple 
devices. You can set up favorites on an iOS device and presumably a mac, but 
those favorites do not sync to a radio. If you want favorites on a radio, you 
have to set them up on the radio itself.

Take care and stay Safe!

Debby

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 5:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

Hi,

So, just to be clear, is it being suggested or is it at all possible to use 
either an iOS device or a Mac computer to program or reconfigured the presets 
on a Sirius XM radio? Inquiring minds want to know. Thank you.


On November 17, 2020 3:38:55 PM "Debby"  wrote:

> Hi Shirley,
>
>  
>
> It does depend on which model of radio it is. If it is an older XM 
> radio the button above the number 3 changes it between the presets and 
> the ability to go to a channel directly. On the newer radios, it might 
> be the second button up from the number 3.
>
>  
>
> Good luck! Take care and stay safe!
>
>  
>
> Debby
>
>  
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Shirley Baker
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM
>
>  
>
> I have a question about the radio itself. I've got one that has 10 
> buttons for presets. Does anyone know how to clear the presets or how 
> you can enter a channel number with presets on the radio? I have a remote 
> that came with it.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Alan Lemly   > wrote:
>
> 
>
> Shirley,
>
>  
>
> Were you able to log into your Sirius account with the StarPlayrX app? 
> There isn't a lot to figure out once your logged in. All the available 
> channels are presented in categories and as you drill down on them, 
> the channels are listed in text lists with the channel number 
> provided. I find it much easier to get info about my available 
> channels using this app and I can then ask Alexa to play them on my Echo.
>
>  
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>  
>
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS
>
>   _
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on 
> behalf of Shirley Baker   >
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:34:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
> Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM
>
>  
>
> I've not been able to do much with the app as far as my phone goes. I 
> can tell my echo device to play a specific channel but when opening 
> the app on my phone, I am not sure how to make it work. I was able to 
> read the list of holiday channels.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Wayne Merritt >  > wrote:
>> 
>> There's a lot to like about the starPlayrX app, but there are also a 
>> number of things missing from it that are in the regular siriusXM app.
>> Such as: ability to jump from song to song, the "Go live" button to 
>> quickly jump to the currently playing live time on a track or 
>> broadcast, and favorites. Granted, I highly wish the regular Sirius 
>> app used the rotor actions like many other apps do with favorites. As 
>> of yet, that is my only real gripe with the Sirius app. It can be 
>> cumbersome to use if you are new, but I've gotten quite comfortable 
>> with it over the last 6 months. Not taking anything away from this 
>> free app people have found. I would like to see the free app develop 
>> further. Surely it is possible to be free, simple, but also offer 
>> things for the intermediate/advanced users.
>> 
>> Be well,
>> Wayne Merritt
>> 
>>> On 11/15/20, Chris Judd >>  > wrote:
>>> Hi Julie,
>>> What I figured out was, if you go in to a category, and double tap 
>>> on a station, and it starts playing, you will see an option that 
>>> says preset off, if you double tap on the toggle, and make it say 
>>> on, then I'm thinking it will make some sort of favorite, but I can't 
>>> access them.
>>> Chris
 On 11/15/2020 6:42 PM, Julie Dawson wrote:
 Dear Chris,
 How do you turn on the presets? I just downloaded the app about 
 twenty minutes ago so am just now getting used to it. Having it 
 sort by categories is so much easier.
   - Original Message -
   *From:* Chris Judd 
   *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com   
   
   *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2020 6:22 PM
   *Subject:* Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM
   That is the problem that I am having. I did also turn on the presets
   for several stations, but I can't figure out how

RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

Not on my phone, It’s too old for that. Mine is an 8+ and I believe you have to 
have the 10 for this, but in any case, I don’t have the option.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> 
Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to 
describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.  I 
have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, 
etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I 
wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to 
get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before 
disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.

 

Viola

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?

“night sky”

 

Anyone out there know what it represents?

 

Regards…..Reg

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Hello Listers,

 

What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked?

 

Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along 
with flashlight and battery usage?

 

Noe

 

 

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RE: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

Hi Shirley,

Off the top of my head, I don’t know how to clear the presets. Sorry about 
that. Those radios have menus, so it might be in there, but they are not 
accessible.

When I was talking about the Number 3, it is the number 3 on the keypad part of 
the remote for dialing the channels. You don’t use the number 3 to change from 
entering the presets to dialing directly, you use either the button above the 
number 3 on the remote, or if that doesn’t work then try the button that is two 
above the number 3. . Sorry this is a bit hard to explain.

Debby

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Baker
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

Hi, Debby. I misread your message. So how do you use the #3 button to change 
your channel? Also, do you know how to clear the presets should I choose to do 
so?

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:38 PM, Debby mailto:dm-h...@comcast.net> > wrote:

Hi Shirley,

It does depend on which model of radio it is. If it is an older XM radio the 
button above the number 3 changes it between the presets and the ability to go 
to a channel directly. On the newer radios, it might be the second button up 
from the number 3.

Good luck! Take care and stay safe!

Debby

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Shirley Baker
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

I have a question about the radio itself. I've got one that has 10 buttons for 
presets. Does anyone know how to clear the presets or how you can enter a 
channel number with presets on the radio? I have a remote that came with it. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Shirley,

Were you able to log into your Sirius account with the StarPlayrX app? There 
isn't a lot to figure out once your logged in. All the available channels are 
presented in categories and as you drill down on them, the channels are listed 
in text lists with the channel number provided. I find it much easier to get 
info about my available channels using this app and I can then ask Alexa to 
play them on my Echo.

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
Shirley Baker mailto:shirleyba...@comcast.net> >
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:34:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM 

I've not been able to do much with the app as far as my phone goes. I can tell 
my echo device to play a specific channel but when opening the app on my phone, 
I am not sure how to make it work. I was able to read the list of holiday 
channels.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Wayne Merritt   > wrote:
> 
> There's a lot to like about the starPlayrX app, but there are also a
> number of things missing from it that are in the regular siriusXM app.
> Such as: ability to jump from song to song, the "Go live" button to
> quickly jump to the currently playing live time on a track or
> broadcast, and favorites. Granted, I highly wish the regular Sirius
> app used the rotor actions like many other apps do with favorites. As
> of yet, that is my only real gripe with the Sirius app. It can be
> cumbersome to use if you are new, but I've gotten quite comfortable
> with it over the last 6 months. Not taking anything away from this
> free app people have found. I would like to see the free app develop
> further. Surely it is possible to be free, simple, but also offer
> things for the intermediate/advanced users.
> 
> Be well,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
>> On 11/15/20, Chris Judd >  > wrote:
>> Hi Julie,
>> What I figured out was, if you go in to a category, and double tap on a
>> station, and it starts playing, you will see an option that says preset
>> off, if you double tap on the toggle, and make it say on, then I'm
>> thinking it will make some sort of favorite, but I can't access them.
>> Chris
>>> On 11/15/2020 6:42 PM, Julie Dawson wrote:
>>> Dear Chris,
>>> How do you turn on the presets? I just downloaded the app about twenty
>>> minutes ago so am just now getting used to it. Having it sort by
>>> categories is so much easier.
>>>   - Original Message -
>>>   *From:* Chris Judd 
>>>   *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com   
>>> 
>>>   *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2020 6:22 PM
>>>   *Subject:* Re: Attention, Easier Way to

RE: Hearing the name of the group

2020-11-17 Thread Christopher Chaltain

It doesn't look like I'm subscribed to the Blind Tech Group, but it might just 
be that that group prepends the name of the group to the subject of the 
messages on that group. The ViPhone list doesn't do that.

BTW, with JAWS 2021, I don't hear any headers automatically now when using 
Outlook, which I prefer.

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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Maria Campbell
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 3:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Hearing the name of the group
> 
> I hear the subject and then the sender.
> 
> 
> Maria Campbell
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> 
> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
> --Edmund Burke
> 
> On 11/17/2020 4:42 PM, 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone wrote:
> > what does it say when you get a message from viphone?
> >
> > On 11/17/2020 4:40 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
> >> Using Windows10 and newest JAWS version. When I get a message from
> >> the blind tech group, the first thing I hear is blind tech group,
> >> then the subject and then the sender.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Maria Campbell
> >> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> >>
> >> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do
> >> nothing.
> >> --Edmund Burke
> >>
> >> On 11/17/2020 4:34 PM, 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone wrote:
> >>> Hi how are you checking your email?
> >>>
> >>> On 11/17/2020 4:27 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
>  When I get a message from this group, I don't hear the name of the
>  group?  Is there a fix?
> 
>  thanks.
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>
> >
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RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-17 Thread Christopher Chaltain

Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> 
Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to 
describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.  I 
have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, 
etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I 
wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to 
get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before 
disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson  wrote:



I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.

 

Viola

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?

“night sky”

 

Anyone out there know what it represents?

 

Regards…..Reg

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Hello Listers,

 

What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked?

 

Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along 
with flashlight and battery usage?

 

Noe

 

 

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RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

Well I am getting it in my weight scale app. I’m not seeing it in any other 
app. Maybe it thinks my weight has gone sky high? It’s the only app I’m seeing 
it in.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

i wonder if it has to do with detection of ambient light.

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: Arnold Schmidt   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:57 PM

Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to 
describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.  I 
have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, 
etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I 
wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to 
get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before 
disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying.  

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.

Viola

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?

“night sky”

Anyone out there know what it represents?

Regards…..Reg

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

Hello Listers,

What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked?

Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along 
with flashlight and battery usage?

Noe

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Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-17 Thread Andy Baracco

i wonder if it has to do with detection of ambient light.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Arnold Schmidt
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to
describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has
told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. I
have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen,
etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I
wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to
get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before
disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20

On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson wrote:

I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.

Viola

From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Reg
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?

“night sky”

Anyone out there know what it represents?

Regards…..Reg

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Noe Villeda
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

Hello Listers,

What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked?

Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along
with flashlight and battery usage?

Noe

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RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-17 Thread Viola Bentson

Hi Arnold. I have a 12 pro max and I get the same thing. And I got it before I 
had my new phone. Please let us know what you find out.

Viola

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to 
describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.  I 
have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, 
etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I 
wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to 
get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before 
disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. 

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson  wrote:

I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.

Viola

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?
“night sky”

Anyone out there know what it represents?

Regards…..Reg

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Noe Villeda
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

Hello Listers,

What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked?

Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along 
with flashlight and battery usage?

Noe

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RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

It has only happened one time so far on my phone. I suspect it has something to 
do with the weather wigit or with the wallpaper. In my case it was actually 
showing itself irrelevantly in an app that has no context of sky. So I’m 
thinking there’s a setting involved here since I’d have no clue what you’re 
talking about except that it happened to me today for the first time, and only 
once.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to 
describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.  I 
have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, 
etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I 
wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to 
get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before 
disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


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I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.

 

Viola

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?

“night sky”

 

Anyone out there know what it represents?

 

Regards…..Reg

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Hello Listers,

 

What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked?

 

Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along 
with flashlight and battery usage?

 

Noe

 

 

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Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

Hi, Debby. I misread your message. So how do you use the #3 button to change 
your channel? Also, do you know how to clear the presets should I choose to do 
so?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:38 PM, Debby  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Shirley,
>  
> It does depend on which model of radio it is. If it is an older XM radio the 
> button above the number 3 changes it between the presets and the ability to 
> go to a channel directly. On the newer radios, it might be the second button 
> up from the number 3.
>  
> Good luck! Take care and stay safe!
>  
> Debby
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Shirley Baker
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM
>  
> I have a question about the radio itself. I've got one that has 10 buttons 
> for presets. Does anyone know how to clear the presets or how you can enter a 
> channel number with presets on the radio? I have a remote that came with it. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Shirley,
>  
> Were you able to log into your Sirius account with the StarPlayrX app? There 
> isn't a lot to figure out once your logged in. All the available channels are 
> presented in categories and as you drill down on them, the channels are 
> listed in text lists with the channel number provided. I find it much easier 
> to get info about my available channels using this app and I can then ask 
> Alexa to play them on my Echo.
>  
> Alan Lemly 
>  
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
> Shirley Baker 
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:34:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM
>  
> I've not been able to do much with the app as far as my phone goes. I can 
> tell my echo device to play a specific channel but when opening the app on my 
> phone, I am not sure how to make it work. I was able to read the list of 
> holiday channels.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> > 
> > There's a lot to like about the starPlayrX app, but there are also a
> > number of things missing from it that are in the regular siriusXM app.
> > Such as: ability to jump from song to song, the "Go live" button to
> > quickly jump to the currently playing live time on a track or
> > broadcast, and favorites. Granted, I highly wish the regular Sirius
> > app used the rotor actions like many other apps do with favorites. As
> > of yet, that is my only real gripe with the Sirius app. It can be
> > cumbersome to use if you are new, but I've gotten quite comfortable
> > with it over the last 6 months. Not taking anything away from this
> > free app people have found. I would like to see the free app develop
> > further. Surely it is possible to be free, simple, but also offer
> > things for the intermediate/advanced users.
> > 
> > Be well,
> > Wayne Merritt
> > 
> >> On 11/15/20, Chris Judd  wrote:
> >> Hi Julie,
> >> What I figured out was, if you go in to a category, and double tap on a
> >> station, and it starts playing, you will see an option that says preset
> >> off, if you double tap on the toggle, and make it say on, then I'm
> >> thinking it will make some sort of favorite, but I can't access them.
> >> Chris
> >>> On 11/15/2020 6:42 PM, Julie Dawson wrote:
> >>> Dear Chris,
> >>> How do you turn on the presets? I just downloaded the app about twenty
> >>> minutes ago so am just now getting used to it. Having it sort by
> >>> categories is so much easier.
> >>>   - Original Message -
> >>>   *From:* Chris Judd 
> >>>   *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> >>>   *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2020 6:22 PM
> >>>   *Subject:* Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM
> >>>   That is the problem that I am having. I did also turn on the presets
> >>>   for several stations, but I can't figure out how to access them
> >>>   either.
> >>>   Looks like we will all have to do a bit of exploring.
> >>>   Chris
> >>>   On 11/15/2020 5:18 PM, Kristen Steele wrote:
>  This is wonderful! Thanks for sharing. I've saved several
> >>>   stations as presets, but not sure how to access them. Any thoughts?
>  Best,
>  —
>  Kristen
>  On Nov 15, 2020 4:23 PM, Chris Judd  >>>   > wrote:
> > Starplayrx streams the XM channels.
> > It is really accessible, and it puts everything in catagories.
> > I don't know if it has any favorits though, that is the only
> >>>   problem I
> > am having, but other than that, I love the app.
> > On 11/15/2020 4:07 PM, Julie Dawson wrote:
> >> What does starplayerX do in relation to SiriusXM on the
> >>>   iPhone? Thank you.
> >>  - Original Message -
> >>  *From:* Nicki Keck  >>>

RE: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

2020-11-17 Thread Simon A Fogarty

Hi Richard,

I just checked my S4 watch which is running 7.1 and it's using a voice from 
Itake it the phone.

I checked under accessibility to find that the siri voice option is un checked 
therefore not at all being used by my watch.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, 18 November 2020 5:29 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

Richard,
I have been on Watch 7.0, or perhaps it was 7.0.1. I just updated to
7.1 last night. I have been able to use my preferred Siri voice when running 
WatchOS 7 or later. I just tried Siri on 7.1 and had no issues.

Best,
Wayne

On 11/17/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Wayne, are you on Watch 7.1 or 7?
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject 
> of flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
> in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
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>
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
>
> For what it's worth, I have the wifi model of the Series 6 watch, and 
> am able to use my preferred Siri voice on my watch. I have the same 
> voice set for Siri on my iPhone 11, which is the male Ausie.
>
> Best,
> Wayne Merritt
>
> On 11/17/20, CrazyEyez  wrote:
>> You are correct.
>> Unfortunately I updated, and there is no way to go back on apple watch.
>> This is the reason I haven't tried the beta on apple watch.
>> I really thought about it though.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:00 AM, Richard Turner 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  OK, thanks so much for the added info.I'm now wondering if this is 
>>> a watch 7.1 issue.When you got the watches, I suspect they were 
>>> running Watch OS 7, but then updated.I'll send that thought off to 
>>> the guy I'm working with at Apple.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
>>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
>>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
>>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
>>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>>
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:07 AM, CrazyEyez  wrote:
>
 Hi,

 My girlfriend and I both got new apple watches 2 weeks ago.
 Both are 44 mm wifi only models.

 Out of the box we  were able to use the siri voice.
 I had to reset mine because I was having connection problems.
 I have lost the capability to use the siri voice.
 The other watch is just fine.
 I also don't care for samantha, so I went to Australia voice.
 I've tried everything I could possibly think of to get the siri 
 voice back and nothing works.
 Cellular has nothing to do with it.
 I guess some are more lucky than others.

 Sent from my iPhone

>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:24 PM, Richard Turner 
>>  wrote:
>
> Hello again,
> After spending a long time with an Apple Accessibility support 
> person, who was great!, I'm left with a question.
>
> For anyone successfully using the Siri Voice for VoiceOver on 
> their watch, do you have the cellular model, or the WiFi/GPS model?
>
> Mine is the WiFi/GPS model and this does not work, but the support 
> person' has the cellular model and it works easily for him, so he 
> would like to know as well as nothing states this feature requires 
> the cellular model.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the 
> subject of flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
>
> I have Gordon from Australia set as my

Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky


No.  It happens on my iPhone7 as well.


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On 11/17/2020 5:57 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:

I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to 
describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.  I 
have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, 
etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I 
wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to 
get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before 
disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying.

Arnold Schmidt


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson  wrote:


I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.
  
Viola
  
  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
  
I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?

“night sky”
  
Anyone out there know what it represents?
  
Regards…..Reg
  
  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
  
Hello Listers,
  
What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked?
  
Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along with flashlight and battery usage?
  
Noe
  
  


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Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-17 Thread Arnold Schmidt

I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to 
describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.  I 
have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, 
etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I 
wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to 
get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before 
disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. 

Arnold Schmidt 


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On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson  wrote:


I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.
 
Viola
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
 
I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?
“night sky”
 
Anyone out there know what it represents?
 
Regards…..Reg
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Noe Villeda
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
 
Hello Listers,
 
What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked?
 
Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along 
with flashlight and battery usage?
 
Noe
 
 
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Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

I have an older radio purchased in the '90's. Would you explain what you mean 
by the #3 button to clear the presets should I choose to do so?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 15, 2020, at 4:07 PM, Julie Dawson  wrote:
> 
> 
> What does starplayerX do in relation to SiriusXM on the iPhone? Thank you.
> - Original Message -
> From: Nicki Keck
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 3:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM
> 
> I agree. It's so much easier to use. Thnk much for the mention.  
> Nicki
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On Nov 15, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> > 
> > Chris,
> > 
> > Thanks for posting about StarPlayrX for those of us with SiriusXM accounts. 
> > This app is much friendlier for accessing SiriusXM content when using 
> > Voiceover.
> > 
> > Alan Lemly
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> > Of Chris Chaffin
> > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 7:14 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM
> > 
> > 
> > For those that listen to SiriusXM on their phone, here is a more simple and 
> > accessible app that you can use. I got this from the Mosen at Large 
> > podcast. The app is free and the link can be found below.
> > 
> > StarPlayrX
> > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fstarplayrx%2Fid1453335612data=04%7C01%7C%7C52eec6fc1bc04ee65c6808d8898aba28%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637410576200308034%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=qXE0e093eE9Tkzzl9nc7%2FBZpz9Sxy0pFJbzOvwCRaQY%3Dreserved=0
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> > 
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Re: Should FB app open if clicking on a link in FB email?

2020-11-17 Thread Dave Clement

Hello, 

I too run into this situation when clicking on a link in an email from FB. It 
always takes me to Safari where it wants me to sign in to my FB account before 
it goes on. Once I do enter my FB userid and password, I then get asked if I 
want to use the FB app instead of Safari. 

I think this happens because I do not have the FB option to "always stay logged 
onto FB" turned on. 

So, I tend to simply go directly to the FB app instead of trying to click on 
the link in the FB email. 

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB


On Nov 17, 2020, at 12:27 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:


Hi,
In my limited experience, it  seems that the iPhone is typically smart enough 
to open a link from an email in the relevant app, if loaded on the phone.  Yes, 
sometimes I get prompted with a pop-up asking if I want to open the link in the 
app or in Safari.  Unfortunately, links from Facebooks emails are the ones that 
I’d like to open the app, yet they don’t.  If you get a notice in your email 
that someone has posted an update in FB and you click on the view link, does it 
open in Safari or the app for you?  Is there a setting I can change to have it 
open the app?  I currently don’t even  get prompted for an option.  My current 
work around is to open FB, find the relevant notification and open if from  
there, but would appreciate knowing if there is a direct way.
 
Robin – iPhone SE, running current version of FB app and getting up the nerve 
to move to IOS 14.
 
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RE: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

2020-11-17 Thread Julian


Hi,

So, just to be clear, is it being suggested or is it at all possible to use 
either an iOS device or a Mac computer to program or reconfigured the 
presets on a Sirius XM radio? Inquiring minds want to know. Thank you.



On November 17, 2020 3:38:55 PM "Debby"  wrote:


Hi Shirley,

 

It does depend on which model of radio it is. If it is an older XM radio 
the button above the number 3 changes it between the presets and the 
ability to go to a channel directly. On the newer radios, it might be the 
second button up from the number 3.


 


Good luck! Take care and stay safe!

 


Debby

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Shirley Baker

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

 

I have a question about the radio itself. I've got one that has 10 buttons 
for presets. Does anyone know how to clear the presets or how you can enter 
a channel number with presets on the radio? I have a remote that came with it.


Sent from my iPhone





On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Alan Lemly  > wrote:




Shirley,

 

Were you able to log into your Sirius account with the StarPlayrX app? 
There isn't a lot to figure out once your logged in. All the available 
channels are presented in categories and as you drill down on them, the 
channels are listed in text lists with the channel number provided. I find 
it much easier to get info about my available channels using this app and I 
can then ask Alexa to play them on my Echo.


 


Alan Lemly

 


Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS

  _

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
Shirley Baker mailto:shirleyba...@comcast.net> >

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:34:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >

Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

 

I've not been able to do much with the app as far as my phone goes. I can 
tell my echo device to play a specific channel but when opening the app on 
my phone, I am not sure how to make it work. I was able to read the list of 
holiday channels.


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Wayne Merritt  > wrote:


There's a lot to like about the starPlayrX app, but there are also a
number of things missing from it that are in the regular siriusXM app.
Such as: ability to jump from song to song, the "Go live" button to
quickly jump to the currently playing live time on a track or
broadcast, and favorites. Granted, I highly wish the regular Sirius
app used the rotor actions like many other apps do with favorites. As
of yet, that is my only real gripe with the Sirius app. It can be
cumbersome to use if you are new, but I've gotten quite comfortable
with it over the last 6 months. Not taking anything away from this
free app people have found. I would like to see the free app develop
further. Surely it is possible to be free, simple, but also offer
things for the intermediate/advanced users.

Be well,
Wayne Merritt

On 11/15/20, Chris Judd  > wrote:

Hi Julie,
What I figured out was, if you go in to a category, and double tap on a
station, and it starts playing, you will see an option that says preset
off, if you double tap on the toggle, and make it say on, then I'm
thinking it will make some sort of favorite, but I can't access them.
Chris

On 11/15/2020 6:42 PM, Julie Dawson wrote:
Dear Chris,
How do you turn on the presets? I just downloaded the app about twenty
minutes ago so am just now getting used to it. Having it sort by
categories is so much easier.
  - Original Message -
  *From:* Chris Judd 
  *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com   
  

  *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2020 6:22 PM
  *Subject:* Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM
  That is the problem that I am having. I did also turn on the presets
  for several stations, but I can't figure out how to access them
  either.
  Looks like we will all have to do a bit of exploring.
  Chris
  On 11/15/2020 5:18 PM, Kristen Steele wrote:

This is wonderful! Thanks for sharing. I've saved several

  stations as presets, but not sure how to access them. Any thoughts?

Best,
—
Kristen
On Nov 15, 2020 4:23 PM, Chris Judd 

  > wrote:

Starplayrx streams the XM channels.
It is really accessible, and it puts everything in catagories.
I don't know if it has any favorits though, that is the only

  problem I

am having, but other than that, I love the app.
On 11/15/2020 4:07 PM, Julie Dawson wrote:

What does starplayerX do in relation to SiriusXM on the

  iPhone? Thank you.

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Nicki Keck

Re: Hearing the name of the group


OK.  That's a good explanation as any, so I'll just have to cope.


Maria Campbell
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On 11/17/2020 4:55 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:

Maria,

I expect the only fix for not hearing the group name would be for them to move 
the list to Groups.io which isn't likely to happen.

Alan Lemly

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Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 3:27 PM
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Subject: Hearing the name of the group

When I get a message from this group, I don't hear the name of the group?  Is 
there a fix?

thanks.


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Re: Hearing the name of the group

2020-11-17 Thread 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone


I don't have that problem it says viphone for me.

On 11/17/2020 4:55 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:

Maria,

I expect the only fix for not hearing the group name would be for them to move 
the list to Groups.io which isn't likely to happen.

Alan Lemly

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Subject: Hearing the name of the group

When I get a message from this group, I don't hear the name of the group?  Is 
there a fix?

thanks.


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Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-17 Thread Marty Hutchings

What is meant when VO says, “Blue Sky Rainbow” and a beep is heard when I am on 
the widgets page?

Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William 
Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, 
signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020

From: Viola Bentson 
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 1:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.

 

Viola

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?

“night sky”

 

Anyone out there know what it represents?

 

Regards…..Reg

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Noe Villeda
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Hello Listers,

 

What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked?

 

Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along 
with flashlight and battery usage?

 

Noe

 

 

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RE: Hearing the name of the group

2020-11-17 Thread Alan Lemly

Maria,

I expect the only fix for not hearing the group name would be for them to move 
the list to Groups.io which isn't likely to happen.

Alan Lemly

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When I get a message from this group, I don't hear the name of the group?  Is 
there a fix?

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Re: Hearing the name of the group


I hear the subject and then the sender.


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On 11/17/2020 4:42 PM, 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone wrote:

what does it say when you get a message from viphone?

On 11/17/2020 4:40 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
Using Windows10 and newest JAWS version. When I get a message from 
the blind tech group, the first thing I hear is blind tech group, 
then the subject and then the sender.




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On 11/17/2020 4:34 PM, 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone wrote:

Hi how are you checking your email?

On 11/17/2020 4:27 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
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Re: Hearing the name of the group

2020-11-17 Thread 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone


what does it say when you get a message from viphone?

On 11/17/2020 4:40 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
Using Windows10 and newest JAWS version.  When I get a message from 
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Hi how are you checking your email?

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When I get a message from this group, I don't hear the name of the 
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Re: Mac OSBig sur

2020-11-17 Thread Anna Dresner

Hi Prisci,

I haven't used sidecar, but I'm sure it's in the iPad user guide, which you can 
download from the store in the Books app.

Best,
Anna


> On Nov 17, 2020, at 3:22 PM, Priscilla Garces (prisci)  
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> 
> Hi Anna,
> Thank you for the thorough information, and hope you are doing well.
> How do I access sidecar? How do I do that on the Mac or iPad?
> since you installed the new update, what accessibility improvements have you 
> noticed on the Mac?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:05 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Sidecar was an iOS 13 feature, so I'm sure it works with all iPads that can 
>> run iOS 13 and 14. Check out the Applevis article about the Mac; it's very 
>> thorough regarding accessibility improvements. I installed Big Sur on my 
>> 2015 Macbook Pro, and it's working well and has some accessibility 
>> improvements.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Wren Langley  wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi,
>>> 
>>> To answer one of your questions, I think that if you have your Mac synced 
>>> to iCloud and your iCloud synced to I’m sorry and your iPhone sync to 
>>> iCloud I think you could start your document on the Mac and finish it on 
>>> the iPhone. I think you would have to have handoff turned on though on the 
>>> iPhone, but I think it would work. As far as your other questions, I have 
>>> ordered the Mac with the M1 ship, but I don’t have it yet, and won’t have 
>>> it until December 9 or 16th I think it is. I just got a map, so I don’t 
>>> know much about it yet. Hope that one question was answered correctly for 
>>> you
>>> 
>>> God bless,
>>> Wren Langley
>>> PS I don’t know what screen mirroring is, and I don’t have any vision. As 
>>> far as the sidecar, I know it works on my iPad Pro, but I don’t know about 
>>> the other iPads.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Priscilla Garces (prisci) 
>  wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 Hope all of you are doing well.
 Does anyone currently own a Mac or have the current MacBook with the New 
 M1 chip discussed in the recent WWDC Apple keynote?
 If so, has anyone updated to the Latest Mac OS software which is Mac OS11, 
 Big Sur? If so, what new accessibility features have you discovered and/or 
 find useful? Can you start a document on a Mac and finish it on your 
 iPhone.
 Also, can you mirror the display on the Mac with the iPad or iPhone? For 
 those of you with some vision, what is screen mirroring anyway?
 I just updated my current Mac with the new software, and I like the 
 control center in the menu bar. Prior to this new update, it was a hit or 
 mis whenever I hit Ctrl option M twice in a rapid succession to find the 
 status menu.
 Also, what is the sidecar feature, and does that work with the new iPads 
 only?
 I have the iPad 5th Generation.
 
 Thank you.
 
 
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Re: Hearing the name of the group

Using Windows10 and newest JAWS version.  When I get a message from the 
blind tech group, the first thing I hear is blind tech group, then the 
subject and then the sender.




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On 11/17/2020 4:34 PM, 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone wrote:

Hi how are you checking your email?

On 11/17/2020 4:27 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
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group?  Is there a fix?


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Re: Hearing the name of the group

2020-11-17 Thread 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone


Hi how are you checking your email?

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iPhone 11 consistently dropping wifi

Greetings. My iPhone 11 randomly but consistently drops the wifi
connection. I will get a pop up message in a variety of apps, such as
YouTube, Crafting Kingdom, Sirius/XM, and others, which says the wifi
network I was connected to is not available. It asks if I want to use
cellular data or keep trying wifi. I have rebooted my phone a number
of times. I was wondering if other users are also experiencing this. I
did a Google search and saw several people had reported issues with
wifi connections on their iPhone 11 running iOS 14.X. For the record,
I'm running iOS 14.2. This didn't happen nearly as often on my prior
XR, but it happens regularly on the 11. I would clear temporary data,
but not sure how to do that on the newer phones. All thoughts or
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Re: Mac OSBig sur

2020-11-17 Thread Priscilla Garces (prisci)

Hi Anna,
Thank you for the thorough information, and hope you are doing well.
How do I access sidecar? How do I do that on the Mac or iPad?
since you installed the new update, what accessibility improvements have you 
noticed on the Mac?


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:05 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Sidecar was an iOS 13 feature, so I'm sure it works with all iPads that can 
> run iOS 13 and 14. Check out the Applevis article about the Mac; it's very 
> thorough regarding accessibility improvements. I installed Big Sur on my 2015 
> Macbook Pro, and it's working well and has some accessibility improvements.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Wren Langley  wrote:
>> 
>> hi,
>> 
>> To answer one of your questions, I think that if you have your Mac synced to 
>> iCloud and your iCloud synced to I’m sorry and your iPhone sync to iCloud I 
>> think you could start your document on the Mac and finish it on the iPhone. 
>> I think you would have to have handoff turned on though on the iPhone, but I 
>> think it would work. As far as your other questions, I have ordered the Mac 
>> with the M1 ship, but I don’t have it yet, and won’t have it until December 
>> 9 or 16th I think it is. I just got a map, so I don’t know much about it 
>> yet. Hope that one question was answered correctly for you
>> 
>> God bless,
>> Wren Langley
>> PS I don’t know what screen mirroring is, and I don’t have any vision. As 
>> far as the sidecar, I know it works on my iPad Pro, but I don’t know about 
>> the other iPads.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Nov 17, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Priscilla Garces (prisci) 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> Hope all of you are doing well.
>>> Does anyone currently own a Mac or have the current MacBook with the New M1 
>>> chip discussed in the recent WWDC Apple keynote?
>>> If so, has anyone updated to the Latest Mac OS software which is Mac OS11, 
>>> Big Sur? If so, what new accessibility features have you discovered and/or 
>>> find useful? Can you start a document on a Mac and finish it on your iPhone.
>>> Also, can you mirror the display on the Mac with the iPad or iPhone? For 
>>> those of you with some vision, what is screen mirroring anyway?
>>> I just updated my current Mac with the new software, and I like the control 
>>> center in the menu bar. Prior to this new update, it was a hit or mis 
>>> whenever I hit Ctrl option M twice in a rapid succession to find the status 
>>> menu.
>>> Also, what is the sidecar feature, and does that work with the new iPads 
>>> only?
>>> I have the iPad 5th Generation.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
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Re: Removing SIM Cards

2020-11-17 Thread Anna Dresner

Hi Joe,

It's doable, particularly if you have the sim card removal tool that comes in 
the box with some phones. If you don't, you can still do it with a paper clip. 
The hole is quite small, so you have to use something pretty thin.

Best,
Anna


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> Hi, is removing a SIM card something a blind person can easily
> accomplish independently? I'm trying to switch out a card from a 6S to
> an SE 2020. The steps appear easy enough when I looked it up, but I
> also don't want to accidentally mangle my device slot. Any thoughts?
> 
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Re: Mac OSBig sur

2020-11-17 Thread Anna Dresner

Hi,

Sidecar was an iOS 13 feature, so I'm sure it works with all iPads that can run 
iOS 13 and 14. Check out the Applevis article about the Mac; it's very thorough 
regarding accessibility improvements. I installed Big Sur on my 2015 Macbook 
Pro, and it's working well and has some accessibility improvements.

Best,
Anna


> On Nov 17, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Wren Langley  wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> To answer one of your questions, I think that if you have your Mac synced to 
> iCloud and your iCloud synced to I’m sorry and your iPhone sync to iCloud I 
> think you could start your document on the Mac and finish it on the iPhone. I 
> think you would have to have handoff turned on though on the iPhone, but I 
> think it would work. As far as your other questions, I have ordered the Mac 
> with the M1 ship, but I don’t have it yet, and won’t have it until December 9 
> or 16th I think it is. I just got a map, so I don’t know much about it yet. 
> Hope that one question was answered correctly for you
> 
> God bless,
> Wren Langley
> PS I don’t know what screen mirroring is, and I don’t have any vision. As far 
> as the sidecar, I know it works on my iPad Pro, but I don’t know about the 
> other iPads.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Priscilla Garces (prisci) 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> Hope all of you are doing well.
>> Does anyone currently own a Mac or have the current MacBook with the New M1 
>> chip discussed in the recent WWDC Apple keynote?
>> If so, has anyone updated to the Latest Mac OS software which is Mac OS11, 
>> Big Sur? If so, what new accessibility features have you discovered and/or 
>> find useful? Can you start a document on a Mac and finish it on your iPhone.
>> Also, can you mirror the display on the Mac with the iPad or iPhone? For 
>> those of you with some vision, what is screen mirroring anyway?
>> I just updated my current Mac with the new software, and I like the control 
>> center in the menu bar. Prior to this new update, it was a hit or mis 
>> whenever I hit Ctrl option M twice in a rapid succession to find the status 
>> menu.
>> Also, what is the sidecar feature, and does that work with the new iPads 
>> only?
>> I have the iPad 5th Generation.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
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Removing SIM Cards

2020-11-17 Thread Joe Orozco

Hi, is removing a SIM card something a blind person can easily
accomplish independently? I'm trying to switch out a card from a 6S to
an SE 2020. The steps appear easy enough when I looked it up, but I
also don't want to accidentally mangle my device slot. Any thoughts?

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RE: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

Hi Shirley,

 

It does depend on which model of radio it is. If it is an older XM radio the 
button above the number 3 changes it between the presets and the ability to go 
to a channel directly. On the newer radios, it might be the second button up 
from the number 3.

 

Good luck! Take care and stay safe!

 

Debby

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Baker
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

 

I have a question about the radio itself. I've got one that has 10 buttons for 
presets. Does anyone know how to clear the presets or how you can enter a 
channel number with presets on the radio? I have a remote that came with it. 

Sent from my iPhone





On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Shirley,

 

Were you able to log into your Sirius account with the StarPlayrX app? There 
isn't a lot to figure out once your logged in. All the available channels are 
presented in categories and as you drill down on them, the channels are listed 
in text lists with the channel number provided. I find it much easier to get 
info about my available channels using this app and I can then ask Alexa to 
play them on my Echo.

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
Shirley Baker mailto:shirleyba...@comcast.net> >
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:34:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM 

 

I've not been able to do much with the app as far as my phone goes. I can tell 
my echo device to play a specific channel but when opening the app on my phone, 
I am not sure how to make it work. I was able to read the list of holiday 
channels.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Wayne Merritt   > wrote:
> 
> There's a lot to like about the starPlayrX app, but there are also a
> number of things missing from it that are in the regular siriusXM app.
> Such as: ability to jump from song to song, the "Go live" button to
> quickly jump to the currently playing live time on a track or
> broadcast, and favorites. Granted, I highly wish the regular Sirius
> app used the rotor actions like many other apps do with favorites. As
> of yet, that is my only real gripe with the Sirius app. It can be
> cumbersome to use if you are new, but I've gotten quite comfortable
> with it over the last 6 months. Not taking anything away from this
> free app people have found. I would like to see the free app develop
> further. Surely it is possible to be free, simple, but also offer
> things for the intermediate/advanced users.
> 
> Be well,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
>> On 11/15/20, Chris Judd >  > wrote:
>> Hi Julie,
>> What I figured out was, if you go in to a category, and double tap on a
>> station, and it starts playing, you will see an option that says preset
>> off, if you double tap on the toggle, and make it say on, then I'm
>> thinking it will make some sort of favorite, but I can't access them.
>> Chris
>>> On 11/15/2020 6:42 PM, Julie Dawson wrote:
>>> Dear Chris,
>>> How do you turn on the presets? I just downloaded the app about twenty
>>> minutes ago so am just now getting used to it. Having it sort by
>>> categories is so much easier.
>>>   - Original Message -
>>>   *From:* Chris Judd 
>>>   *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com   
>>> 
>>>   *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2020 6:22 PM
>>>   *Subject:* Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM
>>>   That is the problem that I am having. I did also turn on the presets
>>>   for several stations, but I can't figure out how to access them
>>>   either.
>>>   Looks like we will all have to do a bit of exploring.
>>>   Chris
>>>   On 11/15/2020 5:18 PM, Kristen Steele wrote:
 This is wonderful! Thanks for sharing. I've saved several
>>>   stations as presets, but not sure how to access them. Any thoughts?
 Best,
 —
 Kristen
 On Nov 15, 2020 4:23 PM, Chris Judd >>>  
>>>   > wrote:
> Starplayrx streams the XM channels.
> It is really accessible, and it puts everything in catagories.
> I don't know if it has any favorits though, that is the only
>>>   problem I
> am having, but other than that, I love the app.
> On 11/15/2020 4:07 PM, Julie Dawson wrote:
>> What does starplayerX do in relation to SiriusXM on the
>>>   iPhone? Thank you.
>>  - Original Message -
>>  *From:* Nicki Keck >  
>>>

RE: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

Okay, I know how to add presets but this is not what I'm asking.  I want to 
know first, if you already have your presets which I do, if you want to go to a 
different channel not in your presets, how do you do that?  I have buttons 1 
through 10 so I tried pressing 21 just for an example, to go to that particular 
channel and it didn't seem to work.  So I want to know how to clear my presets 
and start all over again. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

 

Shirley,

 

Were you able to log into your Sirius account with the StarPlayrX app? There 
isn't a lot to figure out once your logged in. All the available channels are 
presented in categories and as you drill down on them, the channels are listed 
in text lists with the channel number provided. I find it much easier to get 
info about my available channels using this app and I can then ask Alexa to 
play them on my Echo.

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Shirley 
Baker 
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:34:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM 

 

I've not been able to do much with the app as far as my phone goes. I can tell 
my echo device to play a specific channel but when opening the app on my phone, 
I am not sure how to make it work. I was able to read the list of holiday 
channels.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> There's a lot to like about the starPlayrX app, but there are also a
> number of things missing from it that are in the regular siriusXM app.
> Such as: ability to jump from song to song, the "Go live" button to
> quickly jump to the currently playing live time on a track or
> broadcast, and favorites. Granted, I highly wish the regular Sirius
> app used the rotor actions like many other apps do with favorites. As
> of yet, that is my only real gripe with the Sirius app. It can be
> cumbersome to use if you are new, but I've gotten quite comfortable
> with it over the last 6 months. Not taking anything away from this
> free app people have found. I would like to see the free app develop
> further. Surely it is possible to be free, simple, but also offer
> things for the intermediate/advanced users.
> 
> Be well,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
>> On 11/15/20, Chris Judd  wrote:
>> Hi Julie,
>> What I figured out was, if you go in to a category, and double tap on a
>> station, and it starts playing, you will see an option that says preset
>> off, if you double tap on the toggle, and make it say on, then I'm
>> thinking it will make some sort of favorite, but I can't access them.
>> Chris
>>> On 11/15/2020 6:42 PM, Julie Dawson wrote:
>>> Dear Chris,
>>> How do you turn on the presets? I just downloaded the app about twenty
>>> minutes ago so am just now getting used to it. Having it sort by
>>> categories is so much easier.
>>>   - Original Message -
>>>   *From:* Chris Judd 
>>>   *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>   *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2020 6:22 PM
>>>   *Subject:* Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM
>>>   That is the problem that I am having. I did also turn on the presets
>>>   for several stations, but I can't figure out how to access them
>>>   either.
>>>   Looks like we will all have to do a bit of exploring.
>>>   Chris
>>>   On 11/15/2020 5:18 PM, Kristen Steele wrote:
 This is wonderful! Thanks for sharing. I've saved several
>>>   stations as presets, but not sure how to access them. Any thoughts?
 Best,
 —
 Kristen
 On Nov 15, 2020 4:23 PM, Chris Judd >>   > wrote:
> Starplayrx streams the XM channels.
> It is really accessible, and it puts everything in catagories.
> I don't know if it has any favorits though, that is the only
>>>   problem I
> am having, but other than that, I love the app.
> On 11/15/2020 4:07 PM, Julie Dawson wrote:
>> What does starplayerX do in relation to SiriusXM on the
>>>   iPhone? Thank you.
>>  - Original Message -
>>  *From:* Nicki Keck >>   >
>>  *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>    >>   >
>>  *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2020 3:27 PM
>>  *Subject:* Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM
>>  I agree. It's so much easier to use. Thnk much for the mention.
>>  Nicki
>>  Sent from my iPad
>>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Alan Lemly >>   
>>  >> wrote:
>>> Chris,

The Facebook app for iOS

2020-11-17 Thread Andrew Roberts

Hi all,

 

I live in the UK and since we first went into lockdown back in March the church 
which I regularly attend has been holding its services online via Facebook by 
way of a live video.  

 

Up until recently, by default the video always launched in just part of the 
screen, leaving the rest of the screen available to show various comments which 
those attending the service posted.  The option to view the video in full 
screen was always available, however, for those who wished to do that.  However 
since an update to the app a couple of weeks ago the video now goes into full 
screen by default and I can’t find any way of either adding a comment of my own 
or viewing those comments posted by others.  If I double tap on something which 
seems like it will collapse the video I merely either get taken back to my 
newsfeed or to my watch.  Does anyone know please what I need to do to view and 
add comments?

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

All the best,

 

Andrew 

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RE: query

To save an attachment on the iPhone, do the following:
After opening the email, touch on the bottom left corner and flick left and you 
should hear the file name of the attachment, or something that says attachment. 
 You may have to flick left more than once.
Once you are on the attachment, you may hear, tap to download, or just the file 
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Double tap it.
If it said “tap to download” wait a few seconds and you should just have the 
file name, double tap again to open it.
IN the top right corner will be a share button.
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Hi listers

Can anyone explain to me how to open and safe an attachment I the iphone email 
please?
Thanks in advance

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2020-11-17 Thread anthonyborg001

Hi listers 

 

Can anyone explain to me how to open and safe an attachment I the iphone
email please? 

Thanks in advance 

 

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RE: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

Hi,

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but SiriusXM stuff isn’t always that 
accessible. The radios have never been accessible, over the years the website 
is iffy and some of the emails they send out are silly when it comes to 
accessibility.

I am not sure why I stay with them, because I have complained numerous times 
about the emails to no avail. Sorry for the venting, but they seem to be a 
company that doesn’t care! 

Good luck! Take care and stay safe!

Debby

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

Online there is a $1 price per four months for their Premiere streaming 
package. I'm trying to subscribe, but I get all the way to step three of three 
in the checkout process, and then cannot accept their customer agreement. So 
far I've tried on three different browsers on my Windows machine, and using 
safari with my iPhone, and Google Chrome on my Android phone.  The only thing I 
haven't tried using is my amazon Fire table. All other options exhibit the 
exact same results.

So, if this is so inaccessible just to simply sign up. I guess I'll pass.

~Ann

On 11/17/2020 2:26 PM, Alan Emlyn wrote:

Call them at 866-635-2349 and ask them for their best discounted price on their 
premier streaming service. They usually have it for $5 to $6 a month for six 
months. You might have to pay up front but it is a good price. They should be 
able to tell you how to set up an account at the same time.

Alan Lemly  

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  on behalf of 
richr...@gmail.com     

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 12:40:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com    

Subject: RE: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM 

I am trying to subscribe to SiriusXM, can anyone tell me exactly how to 
accomplish this?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

Shirley,

Were you able to log into your Sirius account with the StarPlayrX app? There 
isn't a lot to figure out once your logged in. All the available channels are 
presented in categories and as you drill down on them, the channels are listed 
in text lists with the channel number provided. I find it much easier to get 
info about my available channels using this app and I can then ask Alexa to 
play them on my Echo.

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
Shirley Baker mailto:shirleyba...@comcast.net> >
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:34:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM 

I've not been able to do much with the app as far as my phone goes. I can tell 
my echo device to play a specific channel but when opening the app on my phone, 
I am not sure how to make it work. I was able to read the list of holiday 
channels.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Wayne Merritt   > wrote:
> 
> There's a lot to like about the starPlayrX app, but there are also a
> number of things missing from it that are in the regular siriusXM app.
> Such as: ability to jump from song to song, the "Go live" button to
> quickly jump to the currently playing live time on a track or
> broadcast, and favorites. Granted, I highly wish the regular Sirius
> app used the rotor actions like many other apps do with favorites. As
> of yet, that is my only real gripe with the Sirius app. It can be
> cumbersome to use if you are new, but I've gotten quite comfortable
> with it over the last 6 months. Not taking anything away from this
> free app people have found. I would like to see the free app develop
> further. Surely it is possible to be free, simple, but also offer
> things for the intermediate/advanced users.
> 
> Be well,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
>> On 11/15/20, Chris Judd >  > wrote:
>> Hi Julie,
>> What I figured out was, if you go in to a category, and double tap on a
>> station, and it starts playing, you will see an option that says preset
>> off, if you double tap on the toggle, and make it say on, then I'm
>> thinking it will make some sort of favorite, but I can't access them.
>> Chris
>>> On 11/15/2020 6:42 PM, Julie Dawson wrote:
>>> Dear

Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

2020-11-17 Thread Ann

Online there is a $1 price per four months for their Premiere streaming 
package. I'm trying to subscribe, but I get all the way to step three of 
three in the checkout process, and then cannot accept their customer 
agreement. So far I've tried on three different browsers on my Windows 
machine, and using safari with my iPhone, and Google Chrome on my 
Android phone.  The only thing I haven't tried using is my amazon Fire 
table. All other options exhibit the exact same results.

So, if this is so inaccessible just to simply sign up. I guess I'll pass.

~Ann

On 11/17/2020 2:26 PM, Alan Emlyn wrote:
Call them at 866-635-2349 and ask them for their best discounted price 
on their premier streaming service. They usually have it for $5 to $6 
a month for six months. You might have to pay up front but it is a 
good price. They should be able to tell you how to set up an account 
at the same time.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook  for iOS

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf 
of richr...@gmail.com 

*Sent:* Tuesday, November 17, 2020 12:40:29 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

I am trying to subscribe to SiriusXM, can anyone tell me exactly how 
to accomplish this?

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Alan Lemly

*Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 9:17 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

Shirley,

Were you able to log into your Sirius account with the StarPlayrX app? 
There isn't a lot to figure out once your logged in. All the available 
channels are presented in categories and as you drill down on them, 
the channels are listed in text lists with the channel number 
provided. I find it much easier to get info about my available 
channels using this app and I can then ask Alexa to play them on my Echo.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook  for iOS

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf 
of Shirley Baker >

*Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 7:34:43 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>

*Subject:* Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

I've not been able to do much with the app as far as my phone goes. I 
can tell my echo device to play a specific channel but when opening 
the app on my phone, I am not sure how to make it work. I was able to 
read the list of holiday channels.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Wayne Merritt > wrote:

>
> There's a lot to like about the starPlayrX app, but there are also a
> number of things missing from it that are in the regular siriusXM app.
> Such as: ability to jump from song to song, the "Go live" button to
> quickly jump to the currently playing live time on a track or
> broadcast, and favorites. Granted, I highly wish the regular Sirius
> app used the rotor actions like many other apps do with favorites. As
> of yet, that is my only real gripe with the Sirius app. It can be
> cumbersome to use if you are new, but I've gotten quite comfortable
> with it over the last 6 months. Not taking anything away from this
> free app people have found. I would like to see the free app develop
> further. Surely it is possible to be free, simple, but also offer
> things for the intermediate/advanced users.
>
> Be well,
> Wayne Merritt
>
>> On 11/15/20, Chris Judd > wrote:

>> Hi Julie,
>> What I figured out was, if you go in to a category, and double tap on a
>> station, and it starts playing, you will see an option that says preset
>> off, if you double tap on the toggle, and make it say on, then I'm
>> thinking it will make some sort of favorite, but I can't access them.
>> Chris
>>> On 11/15/2020 6:42 PM, Julie Dawson wrote:
>>> Dear Chris,
>>> How do you turn on the presets? I just downloaded the app about twenty
>>> minutes ago so am just now getting used to it. Having it sort by
>>> categories is so much easier.
>>>   - Original Message -
>>>   *From:* Chris Judd 
>>>   *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com  

>>>   *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2020 6:22 PM
>>>   *Subject:* Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM
>>>   That is the problem that I am having. I did also turn on the presets
>>>   for several stations, but I can't figure out how to access them
>>>   either.
>>>   Looks like we will all have to do a bit of exploring.
>>>   Chris
>>>   On 11/15/2020 5:18 PM, Kristen Steele wrote:
 This is wonderful! Thanks for sharing. I've saved several
>>>   stations as presets,

RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-17 Thread Viola Bentson

I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.

Viola

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?
“night sky”

Anyone out there know what it represents?

Regards…..Reg

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Noe Villeda
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

Hello Listers,

What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked?

Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along 
with flashlight and battery usage?

Noe

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Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

2020-11-17 Thread Alan Lemly

Call them at 866-635-2349 and ask them for their best discounted price on their 
premier streaming service. They usually have it for $5 to $6 a month for six 
months. You might have to pay up front but it is a good price. They should be 
able to tell you how to set up an account at the same time.

Alan Lemly

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Subject: RE: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM


I am trying to subscribe to SiriusXM, can anyone tell me exactly how to 
accomplish this?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM



Shirley,



Were you able to log into your Sirius account with the StarPlayrX app? There 
isn't a lot to figure out once your logged in. All the available channels are 
presented in categories and as you drill down on them, the channels are listed 
in text lists with the channel number provided. I find it much easier to get 
info about my available channels using this app and I can then ask Alexa to 
play them on my Echo.



Alan Lemly



Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Shirley Baker mailto:shirleyba...@comcast.net>>
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:34:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM



I've not been able to do much with the app as far as my phone goes. I can tell 
my echo device to play a specific channel but when opening the app on my phone, 
I am not sure how to make it work. I was able to read the list of holiday 
channels.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Wayne Merritt 
> mailto:wcmerr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> There's a lot to like about the starPlayrX app, but there are also a
> number of things missing from it that are in the regular siriusXM app.
> Such as: ability to jump from song to song, the "Go live" button to
> quickly jump to the currently playing live time on a track or
> broadcast, and favorites. Granted, I highly wish the regular Sirius
> app used the rotor actions like many other apps do with favorites. As
> of yet, that is my only real gripe with the Sirius app. It can be
> cumbersome to use if you are new, but I've gotten quite comfortable
> with it over the last 6 months. Not taking anything away from this
> free app people have found. I would like to see the free app develop
> further. Surely it is possible to be free, simple, but also offer
> things for the intermediate/advanced users.
>
> Be well,
> Wayne Merritt
>
>> On 11/15/20, Chris Judd 
>> mailto:judd.chris...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hi Julie,
>> What I figured out was, if you go in to a category, and double tap on a
>> station, and it starts playing, you will see an option that says preset
>> off, if you double tap on the toggle, and make it say on, then I'm
>> thinking it will make some sort of favorite, but I can't access them.
>> Chris
>>> On 11/15/2020 6:42 PM, Julie Dawson wrote:
>>> Dear Chris,
>>> How do you turn on the presets? I just downloaded the app about twenty
>>> minutes ago so am just now getting used to it. Having it sort by
>>> categories is so much easier.
>>>   - Original Message -
>>>   *From:* Chris Judd 
>>>   *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> 
>>>   *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2020 6:22 PM
>>>   *Subject:* Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM
>>>   That is the problem that I am having. I did also turn on the presets
>>>   for several stations, but I can't figure out how to access them
>>>   either.
>>>   Looks like we will all have to do a bit of exploring.
>>>   Chris
>>>   On 11/15/2020 5:18 PM, Kristen Steele wrote:
 This is wonderful! Thanks for sharing. I've saved several
>>>   stations as presets, but not sure how to access them. Any thoughts?
 Best,
 —
 Kristen
 On Nov 15, 2020 4:23 PM, Chris Judd mailto:judd.chris...@gmail.com%0b   > 
wrote:
> Starplayrx streams the XM channels.
> It is really accessible, and it puts everything in catagories.
> I don't know if it has any favorits though, that is the only
>>>   problem I
> am having, but other than that, I love the app.
> On 11/15/2020 4:07 PM, Julie Dawson wrote:
>> What does starplayerX do in relation to SiriusXM on the
>>>   iPhone? Thank you.
>>  - Original Message -
>>  *From:* Nicki Keck

Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

Shirley: I don't have a radio, but I'm guessing you tune into the
station you want to make a preset. Hold the preferred preset button in
until it beeps. This is the way one would set presets on other Sirius
or car radios anyway. I would suggest you have Aira or Be My Eyes
describe the radio and remote buttons to you. In Aira's case, they may
even be able to pull up the manual or other information.
Rich: You can call the Sirius phone number, of which there are
several. Here's one possibility: 1-888-539-7474. Or, you could go to
the Sirius website, start a free trial and fill in your information on
the initial form.

Good luck,
Wayne Merritt

On 11/17/20, richr...@gmail.com  wrote:
> I am trying to subscribe to SiriusXM, can anyone tell me exactly how to
> accomplish this?
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan
> Lemly
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM
>
>
>
> Shirley,
>
>
>
> Were you able to log into your Sirius account with the StarPlayrX app? There
> isn't a lot to figure out once your logged in. All the available channels
> are presented in categories and as you drill down on them, the channels are
> listed in text lists with the channel number provided. I find it much easier
> to get info about my available channels using this app and I can then ask
> Alexa to play them on my Echo.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS
>
>   _
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of
> Shirley Baker mailto:shirleyba...@comcast.net> >
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:34:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
> Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM
>
>
>
> I've not been able to do much with the app as far as my phone goes. I can
> tell my echo device to play a specific channel but when opening the app on
> my phone, I am not sure how to make it work. I was able to read the list of
> holiday channels.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Wayne Merritt >  > wrote:
>>
>> There's a lot to like about the starPlayrX app, but there are also a
>> number of things missing from it that are in the regular siriusXM app.
>> Such as: ability to jump from song to song, the "Go live" button to
>> quickly jump to the currently playing live time on a track or
>> broadcast, and favorites. Granted, I highly wish the regular Sirius
>> app used the rotor actions like many other apps do with favorites. As
>> of yet, that is my only real gripe with the Sirius app. It can be
>> cumbersome to use if you are new, but I've gotten quite comfortable
>> with it over the last 6 months. Not taking anything away from this
>> free app people have found. I would like to see the free app develop
>> further. Surely it is possible to be free, simple, but also offer
>> things for the intermediate/advanced users.
>>
>> Be well,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
>>> On 11/15/20, Chris Judd >>  > wrote:
>>> Hi Julie,
>>> What I figured out was, if you go in to a category, and double tap on a
>>> station, and it starts playing, you will see an option that says preset
>>> off, if you double tap on the toggle, and make it say on, then I'm
>>> thinking it will make some sort of favorite, but I can't access them.
>>> Chris
 On 11/15/2020 6:42 PM, Julie Dawson wrote:
 Dear Chris,
 How do you turn on the presets? I just downloaded the app about twenty
 minutes ago so am just now getting used to it. Having it sort by
 categories is so much easier.
   - Original Message -
   *From:* Chris Judd 
   *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
 
   *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2020 6:22 PM
   *Subject:* Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM
   That is the problem that I am having. I did also turn on the presets
   for several stations, but I can't figure out how to access them
   either.
   Looks like we will all have to do a bit of exploring.
   Chris
   On 11/15/2020 5:18 PM, Kristen Steele wrote:
> This is wonderful! Thanks for sharing. I've saved several
   stations as presets, but not sure how to access them. Any thoughts?
> Best,
> —
> Kristen
> On Nov 15, 2020 4:23 PM, Chris Judd  
   > wrote:
>> Starplayrx streams the XM channels.
>> It is really accessible, and it puts everything in catagories.
>> I don't know if it has any favorits though, that is the only
   problem I
>> am having, but other than that, I love the app.
>> On 11/15/2020 4:07 PM, Julie Dawson wrote:
>>> What does

RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-17 Thread Reg Sullivan

I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?

“night sky”

 

Anyone out there know what it represents?

 

Regards…..Reg

 

 

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Noe Villeda
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Hello Listers,

 

What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked?

 

Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along 
with flashlight and battery usage?

 

Noe

 

 

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Re: Mac OSBig sur

2020-11-17 Thread Wren Langley

hi,

To answer one of your questions, I think that if you have your Mac synced to 
iCloud and your iCloud synced to I’m sorry and your iPhone sync to iCloud I 
think you could start your document on the Mac and finish it on the iPhone. I 
think you would have to have handoff turned on though on the iPhone, but I 
think it would work. As far as your other questions, I have ordered the Mac 
with the M1 ship, but I don’t have it yet, and won’t have it until December 9 
or 16th I think it is. I just got a map, so I don’t know much about it yet. 
Hope that one question was answered correctly for you

God bless,
Wren Langley
PS I don’t know what screen mirroring is, and I don’t have any vision. As far 
as the sidecar, I know it works on my iPad Pro, but I don’t know about the 
other iPads.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 17, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Priscilla Garces (prisci) 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> Hope all of you are doing well.
> Does anyone currently own a Mac or have the current MacBook with the New M1 
> chip discussed in the recent WWDC Apple keynote?
> If so, has anyone updated to the Latest Mac OS software which is Mac OS11, 
> Big Sur? If so, what new accessibility features have you discovered and/or 
> find useful? Can you start a document on a Mac and finish it on your iPhone.
> Also, can you mirror the display on the Mac with the iPad or iPhone? For 
> those of you with some vision, what is screen mirroring anyway?
> I just updated my current Mac with the new software, and I like the control 
> center in the menu bar. Prior to this new update, it was a hit or mis 
> whenever I hit Ctrl option M twice in a rapid succession to find the status 
> menu.
> Also, what is the sidecar feature, and does that work with the new iPads only?
> I have the iPad 5th Generation.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
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Mac OSBig sur

2020-11-17 Thread Priscilla Garces (prisci)

Hi everyone,
Hope all of you are doing well.
Does anyone currently own a Mac or have the current MacBook with the New M1 
chip discussed in the recent WWDC Apple keynote?
If so, has anyone updated to the Latest Mac OS software which is Mac OS11, Big 
Sur? If so, what new accessibility features have you discovered and/or find 
useful? Can you start a document on a Mac and finish it on your iPhone.
Also, can you mirror the display on the Mac with the iPad or iPhone? For those 
of you with some vision, what is screen mirroring anyway?
I just updated my current Mac with the new software, and I like the control 
center in the menu bar. Prior to this new update, it was a hit or mis whenever 
I hit Ctrl option M twice in a rapid succession to find the status menu.
Also, what is the sidecar feature, and does that work with the new iPads only?
I have the iPad 5th Generation.

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RE: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

2020-11-17 Thread richring

I am trying to subscribe to SiriusXM, can anyone tell me exactly how to 
accomplish this?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

 

Shirley,

 

Were you able to log into your Sirius account with the StarPlayrX app? There 
isn't a lot to figure out once your logged in. All the available channels are 
presented in categories and as you drill down on them, the channels are listed 
in text lists with the channel number provided. I find it much easier to get 
info about my available channels using this app and I can then ask Alexa to 
play them on my Echo.

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
Shirley Baker mailto:shirleyba...@comcast.net> >
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:34:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM 

 

I've not been able to do much with the app as far as my phone goes. I can tell 
my echo device to play a specific channel but when opening the app on my phone, 
I am not sure how to make it work. I was able to read the list of holiday 
channels.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Wayne Merritt   > wrote:
> 
> There's a lot to like about the starPlayrX app, but there are also a
> number of things missing from it that are in the regular siriusXM app.
> Such as: ability to jump from song to song, the "Go live" button to
> quickly jump to the currently playing live time on a track or
> broadcast, and favorites. Granted, I highly wish the regular Sirius
> app used the rotor actions like many other apps do with favorites. As
> of yet, that is my only real gripe with the Sirius app. It can be
> cumbersome to use if you are new, but I've gotten quite comfortable
> with it over the last 6 months. Not taking anything away from this
> free app people have found. I would like to see the free app develop
> further. Surely it is possible to be free, simple, but also offer
> things for the intermediate/advanced users.
> 
> Be well,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
>> On 11/15/20, Chris Judd >  > wrote:
>> Hi Julie,
>> What I figured out was, if you go in to a category, and double tap on a
>> station, and it starts playing, you will see an option that says preset
>> off, if you double tap on the toggle, and make it say on, then I'm
>> thinking it will make some sort of favorite, but I can't access them.
>> Chris
>>> On 11/15/2020 6:42 PM, Julie Dawson wrote:
>>> Dear Chris,
>>> How do you turn on the presets? I just downloaded the app about twenty
>>> minutes ago so am just now getting used to it. Having it sort by
>>> categories is so much easier.
>>>   - Original Message -
>>>   *From:* Chris Judd 
>>>   *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com   
>>> 
>>>   *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2020 6:22 PM
>>>   *Subject:* Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM
>>>   That is the problem that I am having. I did also turn on the presets
>>>   for several stations, but I can't figure out how to access them
>>>   either.
>>>   Looks like we will all have to do a bit of exploring.
>>>   Chris
>>>   On 11/15/2020 5:18 PM, Kristen Steele wrote:
 This is wonderful! Thanks for sharing. I've saved several
>>>   stations as presets, but not sure how to access them. Any thoughts?
 Best,
 —
 Kristen
 On Nov 15, 2020 4:23 PM, Chris Judd >>>  
>>>   > wrote:
> Starplayrx streams the XM channels.
> It is really accessible, and it puts everything in catagories.
> I don't know if it has any favorits though, that is the only
>>>   problem I
> am having, but other than that, I love the app.
> On 11/15/2020 4:07 PM, Julie Dawson wrote:
>> What does starplayerX do in relation to SiriusXM on the
>>>   iPhone? Thank you.
>>  - Original Message -
>>  *From:* Nicki Keck >  
>>>   >
>>  *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com  
>>>    >>  
>>>   >
>>  *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2020 3:27 PM
>>  *Subject:* Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM
>>  I agree. It's so much easier to use. Thnk much for the mention.
>>  Nicki
>>  Sent from my iPad
>>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Alan Lemly >>  
>>>

Re: Face ID

2020-11-17 Thread CoolHappenings

Go the Settings app on your iPhone.
Scroll down and tap on “Face ID & Passcode”
You'll now be asked to enter your password. Do so.
Now, toggle off the first option that says “iPhone Unlock”
That's it. Face ID is now disabled.

No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a significant 
number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 

> On 17 Nov 2020, at 2:36 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> How do I get my iPhone to stop bugging me about turning it on?
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Tips on reading web sites [was "RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security"]

2020-11-17 Thread Christopher Chaltain

As an FYI, I had no problems reading the web site using the link below with the 
immersive reading feature in Microsoft Edge on my PC. On the PC, you toggle 
immersive reading mode with the F9 key. IMHO, just because a lot of us use 
Windows, I still don't consider this on topic for the list, but to try to bring 
it around to this list, you can run Edge on IOS, although I'm not sure how to 
start immersive reading mode on the iPhone. Other browsers, like Safari, 
Firefox and Chrome, also have such modes. Sometimes they're called reader mode. 
They try to strip out everything but the relevant text and information on a web 
page. Note that not all web sites support this feature. Good luck, and I hope 
this tip helps others on their iPhones!

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Chaltain at Gmail

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Carolyn
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 10:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
> person's
> receiving Social Security
> 
> Great, Chris, thanks.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
> person's
> receiving Social Security
> 
> OK, here’s the text of the article. Note, I’m just presenting the text of the 
> article.
> Although I’m no fan of President Trump, I do find this article to be a bit
> unnecessarily inflammatory, and I question it’s being posted to this list, 
> although
> Richard did warn everyone in the subject line that it’s a political article.
> 
> 
> 
> Trump makes one last effort to cut Social Security, maximize hurt to the 
> disabled
> 
> 
> 
> WASHINGTON, DC - MAY 26: U.S. President Donald Trump makes remarks during
> an event on protecting seniors with diabetes, in the Rose Garden at the White
> 
> House on May 26, 2020 in Washington, DC. The United States is closing in on
> 100,000 deaths in less than four months caused by the coronavirus.
> 
> 
> 
> In the middle of the Trump pandemic, in which untold millions of people who
> survive the disease could end up disabled for life, the Trump administration
> 
> Announced  Friday that it's finalizing rules meant to do nothing but make it
> harder for disabled people to receive Social Security, and to endanger the 
> Social
> Security
> 
> benefits of disabled people who are already approved. In the first 
> regulation, it's
> changing the appeals process by replacing impartial, independent 
> administrative
> 
> law judges (ALJs) with internal agency lawyers, making it much more difficult 
> for
> 
> people to navigate the process.
> 
> 
> 
> They have also sent their proposal  that will dramatically increase 
> "continuing
> disability reviews" (the process during which those receiving disability must
> prove they're still disabled)
> 
> to the Office of Management and Budget for approval as a final rule. The
> administration admitted it is about dropping people out of the program ,
> "saving"
> 
> $2.6 billion. It would mean earlier and more frequent reviews for people on
> disability, likely older people who are physically unable to continue their
> 
> work. This is simply, in the words  of Sen. Ron Wyden, "harassment of people
> with disabilities" that puts Americans at "greater risk of falling through the
> cracks."
> 
> 
> 
> House Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee blasted
> 
> the final rule on cutting out judges, which is set to take effect on Dec. 16. 
> "For
> nearly two years, we’ve sounded the alarm that this change would erode
> 
> due process for Social Security and Supplemental Security Income applicants 
> and
> beneficiaries and threaten their access to their earned benefits. The rule
> 
> puts unqualified agency staff in control of deciding appeals hearings and
> contradicts the congressional intent of the law governing such proceedings."
> 
> 
> 
> The rule would remove administrative law from taking up standard cases,
> conducting hearings, and issuing decisions on applications for disability
> benefits—all
> 
> responsibilities currently reserved for them. The ALJ union
> 
> responded  early this year, calling the proposal a violation of current law 
> and
> Supreme Court precedent, saying it would "effectively subject the entire
> administrative
> 
> adjudicative process under performance appraisal control by the agency."
> 
> 
> 
> These two rules are just Trump's kick in the teeth to vulnerable people. The 
> new
> Biden administration and/or Congress will have to spend time and energy
> 
> unwinding these rules, which have no other purpose than making life more
> difficult for people who are already hurting. As with every goddamned thing 
> with
> 
> everyone in Trump's orbit, the cruelty is the point.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Christopher

Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

2020-11-17 Thread CrazyEyez

if you got your watch within the last 30 days, just return it and get a new 
one. lol.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:37 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Wayne,
> From what others have said, I think you are lucky in that if you reset the 
> watch, you may lose that ability.
> I've heard from 4 or 5 people using the same watch who either reset the watch 
> or updated before trying the Siri voice and none of them can use it.
> The Apple engineers are aware of this issue and I hope will resolve it 
> relatively soon, which could be next year as software development goes.
> 
> Thanks for all the info.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> *I’m not the card shark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
> Merritt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
> 
> Richard,
> I have been on Watch 7.0, or perhaps it was 7.0.1. I just updated to
> 7.1 last night. I have been able to use my preferred Siri voice when running 
> WatchOS 7 or later. I just tried Siri on 7.1 and had no issues.
> 
> Best,
> Wayne
> 
>> On 11/17/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Wayne, are you on Watch 7.1 or 7?
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject 
>> of flying.
>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
>> in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>> 
>> Check out my web site at: 
>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C5ba4ee9302a748797b5e08d88b15ec3c%
>> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637412273555278734%7CUnkn
>> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
>> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=kN3HcZqZRwmppNJz%2BJ7OBzgCoMXlsC%2BSJX
>> 1r12Ki484%3Dreserved=0
>> 
>> *I’m not the card shark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Wayne Merritt
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:16 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
>> 
>> For what it's worth, I have the wifi model of the Series 6 watch, and 
>> am able to use my preferred Siri voice on my watch. I have the same 
>> voice set for Siri on my iPhone 11, which is the male Ausie.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Wayne Merritt
>> 
>>> On 11/17/20, CrazyEyez  wrote:
>>> You are correct.
>>> Unfortunately I updated, and there is no way to go back on apple watch.
>>> This is the reason I haven't tried the beta on apple watch.
>>> I really thought about it though.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:00 AM, Richard Turner 
 
 wrote:
 
  OK, thanks so much for the added info.I'm now wondering if this is 
 a watch 7.1 issue.When you got the watches, I suspect they were 
 running Watch OS 7, but then updated.I'll send that thought off to 
 the guy I'm working with at Apple.
 
 
 
 Richard
 "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
 pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
 ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
 regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
 extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
 
>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:07 AM, CrazyEyez  wrote:
>> 
> Hi,
> 
> My girlfriend and I both got new apple watches 2 weeks ago.
> Both are 44 mm wifi only models.
> 
> Out of the box we  were able to use the siri voice.
> I had to reset mine because I was having connection problems.
> I have lost the capability to use the siri voice.
> The other watch is just fine.
> I also don't care for samantha, so I went to Australia voice.
> I've tried everything I could possibly think of to get the siri 
> voice back and nothing works.
> Cellular has nothing to do with it.
> I guess some are more lucky than others.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:24 PM, Richard Turner 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello again,
>> After spending a long time with an Apple Accessibility support 
>> person, who was great!, I'm left with a question.
>> 
>> For anyone successfully using the Siri Voice for VoiceOver on 
>> their watch, do you have the cellular model, or the WiFi/GPS model?
>> 
>> Mine is the WiFi/GPS model and this does not work, but the support 
>> person' has the cellular model and

Moderator Note - You knew this was coming :) -was- Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

2020-11-17 Thread Cara Quinn

Hi All,

You all know the drill by now, :) please can we keep the political discussion 
off the list?

My apologies for the delay in writing but seriously :) you shouldn’t need me or 
Mark to say anything here.

It goes without saying that this sort of thing is not cool here. It also goes 
without saying that you have a delete key that you can use as much as you want. 
:)

So please can we close this thread now. there is so much happening in Apple 
land at this point that I think we all should have more than enough to keep us 
busy here on this list aside from any of the craziness afoot.

Thanks so much to you all. Please know that everyone of us here is an important 
and necessary part of this list. I hope you all and your families and friends 
are safe and well.

Please have a great day!

Cheers!

Cara



> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Don Moore  wrote:
> 
> Gas lighting the blind as usual!  Need way more than a pinch of that salt!!
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> James English
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
> person's receiving Social Security
> 
> Hello,
> 
> It might be worth noting that the source isn't rated as a credible
> news source by independent fact checkers, openly campaigns for the
> democratic party and has raised money for them in the past. It might
> be worth taking it with a large pinch of salt.
> https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-kos/
> 
> On 11/17/20, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> Great, Chris, thanks.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:24 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled
>> person's receiving Social Security
>> 
>> OK, here’s the text of the article. Note, I’m just presenting the text of
>> the article. Although I’m no fan of President Trump, I do find this article
>> to be a bit unnecessarily inflammatory, and I question it’s being posted to
>> this list, although Richard did warn everyone in the subject line that it’s
>> a political article.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Trump makes one last effort to cut Social Security, maximize hurt to the
>> disabled
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> WASHINGTON, DC - MAY 26: U.S. President Donald Trump makes remarks during an
>> event on protecting seniors with diabetes, in the Rose Garden at the White
>> 
>> House on May 26, 2020 in Washington, DC. The United States is closing in on
>> 100,000 deaths in less than four months caused by the coronavirus.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> In the middle of the Trump pandemic, in which untold millions of people who
>> survive the disease could end up disabled for life, the Trump
>> administration
>> 
>> Announced  Friday that it's finalizing rules meant to do nothing but make it
>> harder for disabled people to receive Social Security, and to endanger the
>> Social Security
>> 
>> benefits of disabled people who are already approved. In the first
>> regulation, it's changing the appeals process by replacing impartial,
>> independent administrative
>> 
>> law judges (ALJs) with internal agency lawyers, making it much more
>> difficult for
>> 
>> people to navigate the process.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> They have also sent their proposal  that will dramatically increase
>> "continuing disability reviews" (the process during which those receiving
>> disability must prove they're still disabled)
>> 
>> to the Office of Management and Budget for approval as a final rule. The
>> administration admitted it is about dropping people out of the program ,
>> "saving"
>> 
>> $2.6 billion. It would mean earlier and more frequent reviews for people on
>> disability, likely older people who are physically unable to continue their
>> 
>> work. This is simply, in the words  of Sen. Ron Wyden, "harassment of people
>> with disabilities" that puts Americans at "greater risk of falling through
>> the cracks."
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> House Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee blasted
>> 
>> the final rule on cutting out judges, which is set to take effect on Dec.
>> 16. "For nearly two years, we’ve sounded the alarm that this change would
>> erode
>> 
>> due process for Social Security and Supplemental Security Income applicants
>> and beneficiaries and threaten their access to their earned benefits. The
>> rule
>> 
>> puts unqualified agency staff in control of deciding appeals hearings and
>> contradicts the congressional intent of the law governing such
>> proceedings."
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The rule would remove administrative law from taking up standard cases,
>> conducting hearings, and issuing decisions on applications for disability
>> benefits—all
>> 
>> responsibilities currently reserved for them. The ALJ union
>> 
>> responded  early this

Should FB app open if clicking on a link in FB email?

2020-11-17 Thread R Van Lant

Hi,
In my limited experience, it  seems that the iPhone is typically smart enough 
to open a link from an email in the relevant app, if loaded on the phone.  Yes, 
sometimes I get prompted with a pop-up asking if I want to open the link in the 
app or in Safari.  Unfortunately, links from Facebooks emails are the ones that 
I'd like to open the app, yet they don't.  If you get a notice in your email 
that someone has posted an update in FB and you click on the view link, does it 
open in Safari or the app for you?  Is there a setting I can change to have it 
open the app?  I currently don't even  get prompted for an option.  My current 
work around is to open FB, find the relevant notification and open if from  
there, but would appreciate knowing if there is a direct way.

Robin - iPhone SE, running current version of FB app and getting up the nerve 
to move to IOS 14.

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RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

2020-11-17 Thread Mr. Ed

Hi,
The only thing I can say is who knows for sure if this is true. Now days there 
is so much false information posted out there on the net no one knows if it 
true or not. Let's see if it comes up other places. I am not saying it true or 
False but one has to make sure before one can believe it.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

Amen, Esther. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Esther
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

that's an understatement! I can't wait till he gets out of office! Maybe they 
have to carry him out. I hope they do. It would be wonderful to see. Esther


Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:05 PM, Julie Dawson  
wrote:



 
I can't read the article.

- Original Message - 
From: Simon A Fogarty   
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:55 PM
Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included 
concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security


I told you guys he was an A hole,

 

Is that something biden can reverse?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of matthew dyer
Sent: Tuesday, 17 November 2020 1:57 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included 
concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

 

IOut  rages is all I am going to say.  JMO 

 

Matthew

 

 





On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, 
you may want to read this.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre
 

 

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say 
on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. 
The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss"

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and 
Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 

 

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

 

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RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

2020-11-17 Thread Larry Lumpkin

I'm sorry, this seems off topic to me.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Don Moore
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

Gas lighting the blind as usual!  Need way more than a pinch of that salt!!



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
James English
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

Hello,

It might be worth noting that the source isn't rated as a credible news source 
by independent fact checkers, openly campaigns for the democratic party and has 
raised money for them in the past. It might be worth taking it with a large 
pinch of salt.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-kos/

On 11/17/20, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Great, Chris, thanks.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning 
> disabled person's receiving Social Security
>
> OK, here’s the text of the article. Note, I’m just presenting the text 
> of the article. Although I’m no fan of President Trump, I do find this 
> article to be a bit unnecessarily inflammatory, and I question it’s 
> being posted to this list, although Richard did warn everyone in the 
> subject line that it’s a political article.
>
>
>
> Trump makes one last effort to cut Social Security, maximize hurt to 
> the disabled
>
>
>
> WASHINGTON, DC - MAY 26: U.S. President Donald Trump makes remarks 
> during an event on protecting seniors with diabetes, in the Rose 
> Garden at the White
>
> House on May 26, 2020 in Washington, DC. The United States is closing 
> in on
> 100,000 deaths in less than four months caused by the coronavirus.
>
>
>
> In the middle of the Trump pandemic, in which untold millions of 
> people who survive the disease could end up disabled for life, the 
> Trump administration
>
> Announced  Friday that it's finalizing rules meant to do nothing but 
> make it harder for disabled people to receive Social Security, and to 
> endanger the Social Security
>
> benefits of disabled people who are already approved. In the first 
> regulation, it's changing the appeals process by replacing impartial, 
> independent administrative
>
> law judges (ALJs) with internal agency lawyers, making it much more 
> difficult for
>
> people to navigate the process.
>
>
>
> They have also sent their proposal  that will dramatically increase 
> "continuing disability reviews" (the process during which those 
> receiving disability must prove they're still disabled)
>
> to the Office of Management and Budget for approval as a final rule. 
> The administration admitted it is about dropping people out of the 
> program , "saving"
>
> $2.6 billion. It would mean earlier and more frequent reviews for 
> people on disability, likely older people who are physically unable to 
> continue their
>
> work. This is simply, in the words  of Sen. Ron Wyden, "harassment of 
> people with disabilities" that puts Americans at "greater risk of 
> falling through the cracks."
>
>
>
> House Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee blasted
>
> the final rule on cutting out judges, which is set to take effect on Dec.
> 16. "For nearly two years, we’ve sounded the alarm that this change 
> would erode
>
> due process for Social Security and Supplemental Security Income 
> applicants and beneficiaries and threaten their access to their earned 
> benefits. The rule
>
> puts unqualified agency staff in control of deciding appeals hearings 
> and contradicts the congressional intent of the law governing such 
> proceedings."
>
>
>
> The rule would remove administrative law from taking up standard 
> cases, conducting hearings, and issuing decisions on applications for 
> disability benefits—all
>
> responsibilities currently reserved for them. The ALJ union
>
> responded  early this year, calling the proposal a violation of 
> current law and Supreme Court precedent, saying it would "effectively 
> subject the entire administrative
>
> adjudicative process under performance appraisal control by the agency."
>
>
>
> These two rules are just Trump's kick in the teeth to vulnerable 
> people. The new Biden administration and/or Congress will have to 
> spend time and energy
>
> unwinding these rules, which have no other purpose than making life 
> more difficult for people who are already hurting. As with every 
> goddamned thing with
>
> everyone in Trump's orbit, the cruelty is the point.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>
> Chaltain at Gmail
>
>
>
> From:

Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM

I have a question about the radio itself. I've got one that has 10 buttons for 
presets. Does anyone know how to clear the presets or how you can enter a 
channel number with presets on the radio? I have a remote that came with it. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Shirley,
> 
> Were you able to log into your Sirius account with the StarPlayrX app? There 
> isn't a lot to figure out once your logged in. All the available channels are 
> presented in categories and as you drill down on them, the channels are 
> listed in text lists with the channel number provided. I find it much easier 
> to get info about my available channels using this app and I can then ask 
> Alexa to play them on my Echo.
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
> Shirley Baker 
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:34:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM
>  
> I've not been able to do much with the app as far as my phone goes. I can 
> tell my echo device to play a specific channel but when opening the app on my 
> phone, I am not sure how to make it work. I was able to read the list of 
> holiday channels.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> > 
> > There's a lot to like about the starPlayrX app, but there are also a
> > number of things missing from it that are in the regular siriusXM app.
> > Such as: ability to jump from song to song, the "Go live" button to
> > quickly jump to the currently playing live time on a track or
> > broadcast, and favorites. Granted, I highly wish the regular Sirius
> > app used the rotor actions like many other apps do with favorites. As
> > of yet, that is my only real gripe with the Sirius app. It can be
> > cumbersome to use if you are new, but I've gotten quite comfortable
> > with it over the last 6 months. Not taking anything away from this
> > free app people have found. I would like to see the free app develop
> > further. Surely it is possible to be free, simple, but also offer
> > things for the intermediate/advanced users.
> > 
> > Be well,
> > Wayne Merritt
> > 
> >> On 11/15/20, Chris Judd  wrote:
> >> Hi Julie,
> >> What I figured out was, if you go in to a category, and double tap on a
> >> station, and it starts playing, you will see an option that says preset
> >> off, if you double tap on the toggle, and make it say on, then I'm
> >> thinking it will make some sort of favorite, but I can't access them.
> >> Chris
> >>> On 11/15/2020 6:42 PM, Julie Dawson wrote:
> >>> Dear Chris,
> >>> How do you turn on the presets? I just downloaded the app about twenty
> >>> minutes ago so am just now getting used to it. Having it sort by
> >>> categories is so much easier.
> >>>   - Original Message -
> >>>   *From:* Chris Judd 
> >>>   *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> >>>   *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2020 6:22 PM
> >>>   *Subject:* Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM
> >>>   That is the problem that I am having. I did also turn on the presets
> >>>   for several stations, but I can't figure out how to access them
> >>>   either.
> >>>   Looks like we will all have to do a bit of exploring.
> >>>   Chris
> >>>   On 11/15/2020 5:18 PM, Kristen Steele wrote:
>  This is wonderful! Thanks for sharing. I've saved several
> >>>   stations as presets, but not sure how to access them. Any thoughts?
>  Best,
>  —
>  Kristen
>  On Nov 15, 2020 4:23 PM, Chris Judd  >>>   > wrote:
> > Starplayrx streams the XM channels.
> > It is really accessible, and it puts everything in catagories.
> > I don't know if it has any favorits though, that is the only
> >>>   problem I
> > am having, but other than that, I love the app.
> > On 11/15/2020 4:07 PM, Julie Dawson wrote:
> >> What does starplayerX do in relation to SiriusXM on the
> >>>   iPhone? Thank you.
> >>  - Original Message -
> >>  *From:* Nicki Keck  >>>   >
> >>  *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>>     >>>   >
> >>  *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2020 3:27 PM
> >>  *Subject:* Re: Attention, Easier Way to Play SiriusXM
> >>  I agree. It's so much easier to use. Thnk much for the mention.
> >>  Nicki
> >>  Sent from my iPad
> >>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Alan Lemly  >>>   
> >>  >> wrote:
> >>> Chris,
> >>> Thanks for posting about StarPlayrX for those of us with
> >>  SiriusXM accounts. This app is much friendlier for accessing
> >>  SiriusXM content when using Voiceover.
>

RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

2020-11-17 Thread Don Moore

Gas lighting the blind as usual!  Need way more than a pinch of that salt!!



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
James English
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

Hello,

It might be worth noting that the source isn't rated as a credible
news source by independent fact checkers, openly campaigns for the
democratic party and has raised money for them in the past. It might
be worth taking it with a large pinch of salt.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-kos/

On 11/17/20, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Great, Chris, thanks.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled
> person's receiving Social Security
>
> OK, here’s the text of the article. Note, I’m just presenting the text of
> the article. Although I’m no fan of President Trump, I do find this article
> to be a bit unnecessarily inflammatory, and I question it’s being posted to
> this list, although Richard did warn everyone in the subject line that it’s
> a political article.
>
>
>
> Trump makes one last effort to cut Social Security, maximize hurt to the
> disabled
>
>
>
> WASHINGTON, DC - MAY 26: U.S. President Donald Trump makes remarks during an
> event on protecting seniors with diabetes, in the Rose Garden at the White
>
> House on May 26, 2020 in Washington, DC. The United States is closing in on
> 100,000 deaths in less than four months caused by the coronavirus.
>
>
>
> In the middle of the Trump pandemic, in which untold millions of people who
> survive the disease could end up disabled for life, the Trump
> administration
>
> Announced  Friday that it's finalizing rules meant to do nothing but make it
> harder for disabled people to receive Social Security, and to endanger the
> Social Security
>
> benefits of disabled people who are already approved. In the first
> regulation, it's changing the appeals process by replacing impartial,
> independent administrative
>
> law judges (ALJs) with internal agency lawyers, making it much more
> difficult for
>
> people to navigate the process.
>
>
>
> They have also sent their proposal  that will dramatically increase
> "continuing disability reviews" (the process during which those receiving
> disability must prove they're still disabled)
>
> to the Office of Management and Budget for approval as a final rule. The
> administration admitted it is about dropping people out of the program ,
> "saving"
>
> $2.6 billion. It would mean earlier and more frequent reviews for people on
> disability, likely older people who are physically unable to continue their
>
> work. This is simply, in the words  of Sen. Ron Wyden, "harassment of people
> with disabilities" that puts Americans at "greater risk of falling through
> the cracks."
>
>
>
> House Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee blasted
>
> the final rule on cutting out judges, which is set to take effect on Dec.
> 16. "For nearly two years, we’ve sounded the alarm that this change would
> erode
>
> due process for Social Security and Supplemental Security Income applicants
> and beneficiaries and threaten their access to their earned benefits. The
> rule
>
> puts unqualified agency staff in control of deciding appeals hearings and
> contradicts the congressional intent of the law governing such
> proceedings."
>
>
>
> The rule would remove administrative law from taking up standard cases,
> conducting hearings, and issuing decisions on applications for disability
> benefits—all
>
> responsibilities currently reserved for them. The ALJ union
>
> responded  early this year, calling the proposal a violation of current law
> and Supreme Court precedent, saying it would "effectively subject the entire
> administrative
>
> adjudicative process under performance appraisal control by the agency."
>
>
>
> These two rules are just Trump's kick in the teeth to vulnerable people. The
> new Biden administration and/or Congress will have to spend time and energy
>
> unwinding these rules, which have no other purpose than making life more
> difficult for people who are already hurting. As with every goddamned thing
> with
>
> everyone in Trump's orbit, the cruelty is the point.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>
> Chaltain at Gmail
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich
> Verrier
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 8:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled
> person's receiving Social Security
>
>
>
> I also can’t read the artickle eather. Can some one find the text of the
> artickle and send it? All I found

RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

I apologize for having started this thread, and this will be my last comment 
and then I will shut up and delete all future emails on this topic.
Look it up in the Federal Registry, check with Forbes magazine, CNBC or any 
number of other sources and you will find this is a legitimate, factual, story. 
 I do not receive Social Security disability benefits, but I think anyone who 
depends on that source of income needs to be aware and even contact their 
federal representatives for clarification and to voice their opinion in favor 
or against the proposed rule changes.



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

*I’m not the card shark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
English
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

Hello,

It might be worth noting that the source isn't rated as a credible news source 
by independent fact checkers, openly campaigns for the democratic party and has 
raised money for them in the past. It might be worth taking it with a large 
pinch of salt.
https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmediabiasfactcheck.com%2Fdaily-kos%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C8555a5fc7e314694c7d008d88b14ed8b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637412269282458531%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=nWsyjaXgqVvjV3QAPfS7wih1rz5EzK0SPf1PuflxlUc%3Dreserved=0

On 11/17/20, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Great, Chris, thanks.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning 
> disabled person's receiving Social Security
>
> OK, here’s the text of the article. Note, I’m just presenting the text 
> of the article. Although I’m no fan of President Trump, I do find this 
> article to be a bit unnecessarily inflammatory, and I question it’s 
> being posted to this list, although Richard did warn everyone in the 
> subject line that it’s a political article.
>
>
>
> Trump makes one last effort to cut Social Security, maximize hurt to 
> the disabled
>
>
>
> WASHINGTON, DC - MAY 26: U.S. President Donald Trump makes remarks 
> during an event on protecting seniors with diabetes, in the Rose 
> Garden at the White
>
> House on May 26, 2020 in Washington, DC. The United States is closing 
> in on
> 100,000 deaths in less than four months caused by the coronavirus.
>
>
>
> In the middle of the Trump pandemic, in which untold millions of 
> people who survive the disease could end up disabled for life, the 
> Trump administration
>
> Announced  Friday that it's finalizing rules meant to do nothing but 
> make it harder for disabled people to receive Social Security, and to 
> endanger the Social Security
>
> benefits of disabled people who are already approved. In the first 
> regulation, it's changing the appeals process by replacing impartial, 
> independent administrative
>
> law judges (ALJs) with internal agency lawyers, making it much more 
> difficult for
>
> people to navigate the process.
>
>
>
> They have also sent their proposal  that will dramatically increase 
> "continuing disability reviews" (the process during which those 
> receiving disability must prove they're still disabled)
>
> to the Office of Management and Budget for approval as a final rule. 
> The administration admitted it is about dropping people out of the 
> program , "saving"
>
> $2.6 billion. It would mean earlier and more frequent reviews for 
> people on disability, likely older people who are physically unable to 
> continue their
>
> work. This is simply, in the words  of Sen. Ron Wyden, "harassment of 
> people with disabilities" that puts Americans at "greater risk of 
> falling through the cracks."
>
>
>
> House Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee blasted
>
> the final rule on cutting out judges, which is set to take effect on Dec.
> 16. "For nearly two years, we’ve sounded the alarm that this change 
> would erode
>
> due process for Social Security and Supplemental Security Income 
> applicants and beneficiaries and threaten their access to their earned 
> benefits. The rule
>
> puts unqualified agency staff in control of deciding appeals hearings 
> and contradicts the congressional intent of the law governing such 
> proceedings."
>
>
>
> The rule would remove administrative law from taking up standard 
> cases, conducting hearings, and

RE: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

Thanks Wayne,
>From what others have said, I think you are lucky in that if you reset the 
>watch, you may lose that ability.
I've heard from 4 or 5 people using the same watch who either reset the watch 
or updated before trying the Siri voice and none of them can use it.
The Apple engineers are aware of this issue and I hope will resolve it 
relatively soon, which could be next year as software development goes.

Thanks for all the info.



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

*I’m not the card shark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

Richard,
I have been on Watch 7.0, or perhaps it was 7.0.1. I just updated to
7.1 last night. I have been able to use my preferred Siri voice when running 
WatchOS 7 or later. I just tried Siri on 7.1 and had no issues.

Best,
Wayne

On 11/17/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Wayne, are you on Watch 7.1 or 7?
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject 
> of flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
> in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
> Check out my web site at: 
> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C5ba4ee9302a748797b5e08d88b15ec3c%
> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637412273555278734%7CUnkn
> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=kN3HcZqZRwmppNJz%2BJ7OBzgCoMXlsC%2BSJX
> 1r12Ki484%3Dreserved=0
>
> *I’m not the card shark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
>
> For what it's worth, I have the wifi model of the Series 6 watch, and 
> am able to use my preferred Siri voice on my watch. I have the same 
> voice set for Siri on my iPhone 11, which is the male Ausie.
>
> Best,
> Wayne Merritt
>
> On 11/17/20, CrazyEyez  wrote:
>> You are correct.
>> Unfortunately I updated, and there is no way to go back on apple watch.
>> This is the reason I haven't tried the beta on apple watch.
>> I really thought about it though.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:00 AM, Richard Turner 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  OK, thanks so much for the added info.I'm now wondering if this is 
>>> a watch 7.1 issue.When you got the watches, I suspect they were 
>>> running Watch OS 7, but then updated.I'll send that thought off to 
>>> the guy I'm working with at Apple.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
>>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
>>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
>>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
>>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>>
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:07 AM, CrazyEyez  wrote:
>
 Hi,

 My girlfriend and I both got new apple watches 2 weeks ago.
 Both are 44 mm wifi only models.

 Out of the box we  were able to use the siri voice.
 I had to reset mine because I was having connection problems.
 I have lost the capability to use the siri voice.
 The other watch is just fine.
 I also don't care for samantha, so I went to Australia voice.
 I've tried everything I could possibly think of to get the siri 
 voice back and nothing works.
 Cellular has nothing to do with it.
 I guess some are more lucky than others.

 Sent from my iPhone

>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:24 PM, Richard Turner 
>>  wrote:
>
> Hello again,
> After spending a long time with an Apple Accessibility support 
> person, who was great!, I'm left with a question.
>
> For anyone successfully using the Siri Voice for VoiceOver on 
> their watch, do you have the cellular model, or the WiFi/GPS model?
>
> Mine is the WiFi/GPS model and this does not work, but the support 
> person' has the cellular model and it works easily for him, so he 
> would like to know as well as nothing states this feature requires 
> the cellular model.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the 
> subject of flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
> lies in learning

Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

Richard,
I have been on Watch 7.0, or perhaps it was 7.0.1. I just updated to
7.1 last night. I have been able to use my preferred Siri voice when
running WatchOS 7 or later. I just tried Siri on 7.1 and had no
issues.

Best,
Wayne

On 11/17/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Wayne, are you on Watch 7.1 or 7?
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>
> *I’m not the card shark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne
> Merritt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
>
> For what it's worth, I have the wifi model of the Series 6 watch, and am
> able to use my preferred Siri voice on my watch. I have the same voice set
> for Siri on my iPhone 11, which is the male Ausie.
>
> Best,
> Wayne Merritt
>
> On 11/17/20, CrazyEyez  wrote:
>> You are correct.
>> Unfortunately I updated, and there is no way to go back on apple watch.
>> This is the reason I haven't tried the beta on apple watch.
>> I really thought about it though.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:00 AM, Richard Turner
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  OK, thanks so much for the added info.I'm now wondering if this is
>>> a watch 7.1 issue.When you got the watches, I suspect they were
>>> running Watch OS 7, but then updated.I'll send that thought off to
>>> the guy I'm working with at Apple.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
>>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
>>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
>>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>>
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:07 AM, CrazyEyez  wrote:
>
 Hi,

 My girlfriend and I both got new apple watches 2 weeks ago.
 Both are 44 mm wifi only models.

 Out of the box we  were able to use the siri voice.
 I had to reset mine because I was having connection problems.
 I have lost the capability to use the siri voice.
 The other watch is just fine.
 I also don't care for samantha, so I went to Australia voice.
 I've tried everything I could possibly think of to get the siri
 voice back and nothing works.
 Cellular has nothing to do with it.
 I guess some are more lucky than others.

 Sent from my iPhone

>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:24 PM, Richard Turner
>>  wrote:
>
> Hello again,
> After spending a long time with an Apple Accessibility support
> person, who was great!, I'm left with a question.
>
> For anyone successfully using the Siri Voice for VoiceOver on their
> watch, do you have the cellular model, or the WiFi/GPS model?
>
> Mine is the WiFi/GPS model and this does not work, but the support
> person' has the cellular model and it works easily for him, so he
> would like to know as well as nothing states this feature requires
> the cellular model.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the
> subject of flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
> Check out my web site at:
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fww
> w.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf6825d1fe7f14efed90d08d88af
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> TiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=mpIVtxO9FssxHAPWfHRh6W9
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>
> *I’m not the card shark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
>
> I have Gordon from Australia set as my Siri voice on my phone. On
> the Series 4 watch I used to have, Siri used the default Samantha
> voice, but on my Series 6, the Gordon voice is used. NO idea why it
> is able to use the voice from the phone now and not before. Perhaps
> it has to do with the faster processor and innards in the Series 6.
>
> Best,
> Wayne
>
>>> On 11/14/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Thanks for the feedback.
>> I tried calling Apple Accessibility but got tired of being on hold.

Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

2020-11-17 Thread MamaPeach

How long is this thread going to continue? This has nothing at all to do 
with iDevices.

-Original Message- 
From: Carolyn

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

Great, Chris, thanks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

OK, here’s the text of the article. Note, I’m just presenting the text of 
the article. Although I’m no fan of President Trump, I do find this article 
to be a bit unnecessarily inflammatory, and I question it’s being posted to 
this list, although Richard did warn everyone in the subject line that it’s 
a political article.

Trump makes one last effort to cut Social Security, maximize hurt to the 
disabled

WASHINGTON, DC - MAY 26: U.S. President Donald Trump makes remarks during an 
event on protecting seniors with diabetes, in the Rose Garden at the White

House on May 26, 2020 in Washington, DC. The United States is closing in on 
100,000 deaths in less than four months caused by the coronavirus.

In the middle of the Trump pandemic, in which untold millions of people who 
survive the disease could end up disabled for life, the Trump administration

Announced  Friday that it's finalizing rules meant to do nothing but make it 
harder for disabled people to receive Social Security, and to endanger the 
Social Security

benefits of disabled people who are already approved. In the first 
regulation, it's changing the appeals process by replacing impartial, 
independent administrative

law judges (ALJs) with internal agency lawyers, making it much more 
difficult for

people to navigate the process.

They have also sent their proposal  that will dramatically increase 
"continuing disability reviews" (the process during which those receiving 
disability must prove they're still disabled)

to the Office of Management and Budget for approval as a final rule. The 
administration admitted it is about dropping people out of the program , 
"saving"

$2.6 billion. It would mean earlier and more frequent reviews for people on 
disability, likely older people who are physically unable to continue their

work. This is simply, in the words  of Sen. Ron Wyden, "harassment of people 
with disabilities" that puts Americans at "greater risk of falling through 
the cracks."

House Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee blasted

the final rule on cutting out judges, which is set to take effect on Dec. 
16. "For nearly two years, we’ve sounded the alarm that this change would 
erode

due process for Social Security and Supplemental Security Income applicants 
and beneficiaries and threaten their access to their earned benefits. The 
rule

puts unqualified agency staff in control of deciding appeals hearings and 
contradicts the congressional intent of the law governing such proceedings."

The rule would remove administrative law from taking up standard cases, 
conducting hearings, and issuing decisions on applications for disability 
benefits—all

responsibilities currently reserved for them. The ALJ union

responded  early this year, calling the proposal a violation of current law 
and Supreme Court precedent, saying it would "effectively subject the entire 
administrative

adjudicative process under performance appraisal control by the agency."

These two rules are just Trump's kick in the teeth to vulnerable people. The 
new Biden administration and/or Congress will have to spend time and energy

unwinding these rules, which have no other purpose than making life more 
difficult for people who are already hurting. As with every goddamned thing 
with

everyone in Trump's orbit, the cruelty is the point.

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 8:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

I also can’t read the artickle eather. Can some one find the text of the 
artickle and send it? All I found was different links and no real artickle. 

From Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener

Sent: November 16, 2020 9:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

Neither could I.  Just found comments by other bloggers.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On

Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

2020-11-17 Thread James English

Hello,

It might be worth noting that the source isn't rated as a credible
news source by independent fact checkers, openly campaigns for the
democratic party and has raised money for them in the past. It might
be worth taking it with a large pinch of salt.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-kos/

On 11/17/20, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Great, Chris, thanks.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled
> person's receiving Social Security
>
> OK, here’s the text of the article. Note, I’m just presenting the text of
> the article. Although I’m no fan of President Trump, I do find this article
> to be a bit unnecessarily inflammatory, and I question it’s being posted to
> this list, although Richard did warn everyone in the subject line that it’s
> a political article.
>
>
>
> Trump makes one last effort to cut Social Security, maximize hurt to the
> disabled
>
>
>
> WASHINGTON, DC - MAY 26: U.S. President Donald Trump makes remarks during an
> event on protecting seniors with diabetes, in the Rose Garden at the White
>
> House on May 26, 2020 in Washington, DC. The United States is closing in on
> 100,000 deaths in less than four months caused by the coronavirus.
>
>
>
> In the middle of the Trump pandemic, in which untold millions of people who
> survive the disease could end up disabled for life, the Trump
> administration
>
> Announced  Friday that it's finalizing rules meant to do nothing but make it
> harder for disabled people to receive Social Security, and to endanger the
> Social Security
>
> benefits of disabled people who are already approved. In the first
> regulation, it's changing the appeals process by replacing impartial,
> independent administrative
>
> law judges (ALJs) with internal agency lawyers, making it much more
> difficult for
>
> people to navigate the process.
>
>
>
> They have also sent their proposal  that will dramatically increase
> "continuing disability reviews" (the process during which those receiving
> disability must prove they're still disabled)
>
> to the Office of Management and Budget for approval as a final rule. The
> administration admitted it is about dropping people out of the program ,
> "saving"
>
> $2.6 billion. It would mean earlier and more frequent reviews for people on
> disability, likely older people who are physically unable to continue their
>
> work. This is simply, in the words  of Sen. Ron Wyden, "harassment of people
> with disabilities" that puts Americans at "greater risk of falling through
> the cracks."
>
>
>
> House Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee blasted
>
> the final rule on cutting out judges, which is set to take effect on Dec.
> 16. "For nearly two years, we’ve sounded the alarm that this change would
> erode
>
> due process for Social Security and Supplemental Security Income applicants
> and beneficiaries and threaten their access to their earned benefits. The
> rule
>
> puts unqualified agency staff in control of deciding appeals hearings and
> contradicts the congressional intent of the law governing such
> proceedings."
>
>
>
> The rule would remove administrative law from taking up standard cases,
> conducting hearings, and issuing decisions on applications for disability
> benefits—all
>
> responsibilities currently reserved for them. The ALJ union
>
> responded  early this year, calling the proposal a violation of current law
> and Supreme Court precedent, saying it would "effectively subject the entire
> administrative
>
> adjudicative process under performance appraisal control by the agency."
>
>
>
> These two rules are just Trump's kick in the teeth to vulnerable people. The
> new Biden administration and/or Congress will have to spend time and energy
>
> unwinding these rules, which have no other purpose than making life more
> difficult for people who are already hurting. As with every goddamned thing
> with
>
> everyone in Trump's orbit, the cruelty is the point.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>
> Chaltain at Gmail
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich
> Verrier
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 8:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled
> person's receiving Social Security
>
>
>
> I also can’t read the artickle eather. Can some one find the text of the
> artickle and send it? All I found was different links and no real artickle.
> From Mich.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> kitty hevener
> Sent: November 16, 2020 9:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled
> person's

RE: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

Wayne, are you on Watch 7.1 or 7?
Thanks,



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

For what it's worth, I have the wifi model of the Series 6 watch, and am able 
to use my preferred Siri voice on my watch. I have the same voice set for Siri 
on my iPhone 11, which is the male Ausie.

Best,
Wayne Merritt

On 11/17/20, CrazyEyez  wrote:
> You are correct.
> Unfortunately I updated, and there is no way to go back on apple watch.
> This is the reason I haven't tried the beta on apple watch.
> I really thought about it though.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:00 AM, Richard Turner 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  OK, thanks so much for the added info.I'm now wondering if this is 
>> a watch 7.1 issue.When you got the watches, I suspect they were 
>> running Watch OS 7, but then updated.I'll send that thought off to 
>> the guy I'm working with at Apple.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>
 On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:07 AM, CrazyEyez  wrote:

>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> My girlfriend and I both got new apple watches 2 weeks ago.
>>> Both are 44 mm wifi only models.
>>>
>>> Out of the box we  were able to use the siri voice.
>>> I had to reset mine because I was having connection problems.
>>> I have lost the capability to use the siri voice.
>>> The other watch is just fine.
>>> I also don't care for samantha, so I went to Australia voice.
>>> I've tried everything I could possibly think of to get the siri 
>>> voice back and nothing works.
>>> Cellular has nothing to do with it.
>>> I guess some are more lucky than others.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:24 PM, Richard Turner 
>  wrote:

 Hello again,
 After spending a long time with an Apple Accessibility support 
 person, who was great!, I'm left with a question.

 For anyone successfully using the Siri Voice for VoiceOver on their 
 watch, do you have the cellular model, or the WiFi/GPS model?

 Mine is the WiFi/GPS model and this does not work, but the support 
 person' has the cellular model and it works easily for him, so he 
 would like to know as well as nothing states this feature requires 
 the cellular model.

 Thanks,


 Richard
 "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the 
 subject of flying.
 There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
 lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
 --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 Check out my web site at:
 https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fww
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 XxIQXJUaWPxY%2FQCTNl9A%3Dreserved=0

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 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Wayne Merritt
 Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:40 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

 I have Gordon from Australia set as my Siri voice on my phone. On 
 the Series 4 watch I used to have, Siri used the default Samantha 
 voice, but on my Series 6, the Gordon voice is used. NO idea why it 
 is able to use the voice from the phone now and not before. Perhaps 
 it has to do with the faster processor and innards in the Series 6.

 Best,
 Wayne

>> On 11/14/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback.
> I tried calling Apple Accessibility but got tired of being on hold.
> I may try again.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the 
> subject of flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
> lies
>
> in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
> Check out

Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

For what it's worth, I have the wifi model of the Series 6 watch, and
am able to use my preferred Siri voice on my watch. I have the same
voice set for Siri on my iPhone 11, which is the male Ausie.

Best,
Wayne Merritt

On 11/17/20, CrazyEyez  wrote:
> You are correct.
> Unfortunately I updated, and there is no way to go back on apple watch.
> This is the reason I haven't tried the beta on apple watch.
> I really thought about it though.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:00 AM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  OK, thanks so much for the added info.I'm now wondering if this is a
>> watch 7.1 issue.When you got the watches, I suspect they were running
>> Watch OS 7, but then updated.I'll send that thought off to the guy I'm
>> working with at Apple.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
>> Edward Herbert
>>
 On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:07 AM, CrazyEyez  wrote:

>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> My girlfriend and I both got new apple watches 2 weeks ago.
>>> Both are 44 mm wifi only models.
>>>
>>> Out of the box we  were able to use the siri voice.
>>> I had to reset mine because I was having connection problems.
>>> I have lost the capability to use the siri voice.
>>> The other watch is just fine.
>>> I also don't care for samantha, so I went to Australia voice.
>>> I've tried everything I could possibly think of to get the siri voice
>>> back and nothing works.
>>> Cellular has nothing to do with it.
>>> I guess some are more lucky than others.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:24 PM, Richard Turner
>  wrote:

 Hello again,
 After spending a long time with an Apple Accessibility support person,
 who was great!, I'm left with a question.

 For anyone successfully using the Siri Voice for VoiceOver on their
 watch, do you have the cellular model, or the WiFi/GPS model?

 Mine is the WiFi/GPS model and this does not work, but the support
 person' has the cellular model and it works easily for him, so he would
 like to know as well as nothing states this feature requires the
 cellular model.

 Thanks,


 Richard
 "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
 flying.
 There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies
 in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
 --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 Check out my web site at:
 https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf6825d1fe7f14efed90d08d88af14a2c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637412116217154045%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=mpIVtxO9FssxHAPWfHRh6W9XxIQXJUaWPxY%2FQCTNl9A%3Dreserved=0

 *I’m not the card shark

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
 Wayne Merritt
 Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:40 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

 I have Gordon from Australia set as my Siri voice on my phone. On the
 Series 4 watch I used to have, Siri used the default Samantha voice, but
 on my Series 6, the Gordon voice is used. NO idea why it is able to use
 the voice from the phone now and not before. Perhaps it has to do with
 the faster processor and innards in the Series 6.

 Best,
 Wayne

>> On 11/14/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback.
> I tried calling Apple Accessibility but got tired of being on hold.
> I may try again.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject
> of flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies
>
> in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
> Check out my web site at:
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1bafb378a90548cfb8ce08d88a45f01f%
> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637411380266085664%7CUnkn
> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=UC3DqqY9I5yuBw5jac8ebqa%2Fxif9Yr1KIhOd
>

RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

2020-11-17 Thread Carolyn

Great, Chris, thanks. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

OK, here’s the text of the article. Note, I’m just presenting the text of the 
article. Although I’m no fan of President Trump, I do find this article to be a 
bit unnecessarily inflammatory, and I question it’s being posted to this list, 
although Richard did warn everyone in the subject line that it’s a political 
article.

Trump makes one last effort to cut Social Security, maximize hurt to the 
disabled

WASHINGTON, DC - MAY 26: U.S. President Donald Trump makes remarks during an 
event on protecting seniors with diabetes, in the Rose Garden at the White

House on May 26, 2020 in Washington, DC. The United States is closing in on 
100,000 deaths in less than four months caused by the coronavirus.

In the middle of the Trump pandemic, in which untold millions of people who 
survive the disease could end up disabled for life, the Trump administration

Announced  Friday that it's finalizing rules meant to do nothing but make it 
harder for disabled people to receive Social Security, and to endanger the 
Social Security

benefits of disabled people who are already approved. In the first regulation, 
it's changing the appeals process by replacing impartial, independent 
administrative

law judges (ALJs) with internal agency lawyers, making it much more difficult 
for 

people to navigate the process.

They have also sent their proposal  that will dramatically increase "continuing 
disability reviews" (the process during which those receiving disability must 
prove they're still disabled)

to the Office of Management and Budget for approval as a final rule. The 
administration admitted it is about dropping people out of the program , 
"saving"

$2.6 billion. It would mean earlier and more frequent reviews for people on 
disability, likely older people who are physically unable to continue their

work. This is simply, in the words  of Sen. Ron Wyden, "harassment of people 
with disabilities" that puts Americans at "greater risk of falling through the 
cracks."

House Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee blasted

the final rule on cutting out judges, which is set to take effect on Dec. 16. 
"For nearly two years, we’ve sounded the alarm that this change would erode

due process for Social Security and Supplemental Security Income applicants and 
beneficiaries and threaten their access to their earned benefits. The rule

puts unqualified agency staff in control of deciding appeals hearings and 
contradicts the congressional intent of the law governing such proceedings."

The rule would remove administrative law from taking up standard cases, 
conducting hearings, and issuing decisions on applications for disability 
benefits—all

responsibilities currently reserved for them. The ALJ union 

responded  early this year, calling the proposal a violation of current law and 
Supreme Court precedent, saying it would "effectively subject the entire 
administrative

adjudicative process under performance appraisal control by the agency."

These two rules are just Trump's kick in the teeth to vulnerable people. The 
new Biden administration and/or Congress will have to spend time and energy

unwinding these rules, which have no other purpose than making life more 
difficult for people who are already hurting. As with every goddamned thing with

everyone in Trump's orbit, the cruelty is the point.

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 8:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

I also can’t read the artickle eather. Can some one find the text of the 
artickle and send it? All I found was different links and no real artickle. 
From Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: November 16, 2020 9:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

Neither could I.  Just found comments by other bloggers.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Julie Dawson
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

I can't read the article.

- Original Message - 

From: Simon A

RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

2020-11-17 Thread Carolyn

I could not either. But from Simon's message, I get the idea is would not 
surprise me. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Julie Dawson
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

I can't read the article.

- Original Message - 
From: Simon A Fogarty   
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:55 PM
Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning 
disabled person's receiving Social Security

I told you guys he was an A hole,

Is that something biden can reverse?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
matthew dyer
Sent: Tuesday, 17 November 2020 1:57 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning 
disabled person's receiving Social Security

IOut  rages is all I am going to say.  JMO 

Matthew

On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may 
want to read this.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the 
subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The 
knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss"

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 

*I’m not the card shark

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RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

2020-11-17 Thread Carolyn

Amen, Esther. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Esther
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

that's an understatement! I can't wait till he gets out of office! Maybe they 
have to carry him out. I hope they do. It would be wonderful to see. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:05 PM, Julie Dawson  
wrote:

I can't read the article.

- Original Message - 
From: Simon A Fogarty   
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:55 PM
Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included 
concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

I told you guys he was an A hole,

Is that something biden can reverse?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of matthew dyer
Sent: Tuesday, 17 November 2020 1:57 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included 
concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

IOut  rages is all I am going to say.  JMO 

Matthew

On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, 
you may want to read this.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre

Richard

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Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6

2020-11-17 Thread CrazyEyez

You are correct.
Unfortunately I updated, and there is no way to go back on apple watch.
This is the reason I haven't tried the beta on apple watch.
I really thought about it though.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:00 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  OK, thanks so much for the added info.I'm now wondering if this is a watch 
> 7.1 issue.When you got the watches, I suspect they were running Watch OS 7, 
> but then updated.I'll send that thought off to the guy I'm working with at 
> Apple.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:07 AM, CrazyEyez  wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> My girlfriend and I both got new apple watches 2 weeks ago.
>> Both are 44 mm wifi only models.
>> 
>> Out of the box we  were able to use the siri voice.
>> I had to reset mine because I was having connection problems.
>> I have lost the capability to use the siri voice.
>> The other watch is just fine.
>> I also don't care for samantha, so I went to Australia voice.
>> I've tried everything I could possibly think of to get the siri voice back 
>> and nothing works.
>> Cellular has nothing to do with it.
>> I guess some are more lucky than others.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:24 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello again,
>>> After spending a long time with an Apple Accessibility support person, who 
>>> was great!, I'm left with a question.
>>> 
>>> For anyone successfully using the Siri Voice for VoiceOver on their watch, 
>>> do you have the cellular model, or the WiFi/GPS model?
>>> 
>>> Mine is the WiFi/GPS model and this does not work, but the support person' 
>>> has the cellular model and it works easily for him, so he would like to 
>>> know as well as nothing states this feature requires the cellular model.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
>>> flying.
>>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
>>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>>> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>> 
>>> Check out my web site at: 
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>>> 
>>> *I’m not the card shark
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:40 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6
>>> 
>>> I have Gordon from Australia set as my Siri voice on my phone. On the 
>>> Series 4 watch I used to have, Siri used the default Samantha voice, but on 
>>> my Series 6, the Gordon voice is used. NO idea why it is able to use the 
>>> voice from the phone now and not before. Perhaps it has to do with the 
>>> faster processor and innards in the Series 6.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Wayne
>>> 
> On 11/14/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
 Thanks for the feedback.
 I tried calling Apple Accessibility but got tired of being on hold.
 I may try again.
 
 
 
 Richard
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Re: VO voices on Apple Watch series 6