RE: Difference in Volume between Ring Tone and Text Tone

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hey, I just asked because I'm pretty sure I'd be confused,
 What is that the phone or the birds in the trees.

 Mind you a bird tried steeling my sushi out of my hand today and got a smack 
on the side of the head,
 So birds aren't my favourite thing.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sandy 
Finley
Sent: Friday, 12 February 2021 2:36 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Difference in Volume between Ring Tone and Text Tone

Simon, your question made me laugh. It is not difficult to tell the difference 
between real birds and my ring tones because I am familiar with the patterns in 
the two ring tones. Besides, if I am outside on our screened in porch and the 
cell phone rings from our bedroom, I will not run in to grab it.  That’s what 
voice mail is for.   

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 11, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I have tweet for my texts, and have no problem telling the difference in it 
> and any bird singing. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 9:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Difference in Volume between Ring Tone and Text Tone
> 
> Hi sandy,
> Sorr this question is not going to help you,
> 
> But if you have bird sounds as your tones, How will you know it's your phone 
> if you are outside, Rather than it being birds in the trees?
> 
> I've always wondered how people deal with these tones,  Other than vibrations 
> or haptic feedback, The tones of birds would confuse me.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sandy 
> Finley
> Sent: Thursday, 11 February 2021 2:19 pm
> To: IPhone 
> Subject: Difference in Volume between Ring Tone and Text Tone
> 
> I have had the same ring tone and text tone  sounds for a while so decided 
> today to  change them. I selected the tones I  want, two bird songs I once 
> purchased. Now  the one for texting is too soft. If I adjust the  volume so I 
> can hear the text tones, the ringtone is much too loud. This is. The case 
> regardless of whether I have the volume adjusted with or without the volume 
> buttons  on the side of the phone. It seems to happen no matter which text 
> tone I choose.
> 
> Is there a way to make the volume of one  independent from the volume for the 
> other?  
> 
> Sandy Finley
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: TV Guide App - Case #07100525 - TV Guide Feedback [ ref:_00DE0ZiAl._5000y1ofh85:ref ]

[M. Taylor]

Hello Andy,

Thanks for posting.

I received a similar response from TV Guide, today.

Mark


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Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 3:14 PM
Subject: TV Guide App - Case #07100525 - TV Guide Feedback [ 
ref:_00DE0ZiAl._5000y1ofh85:ref ]


 
Hi Andy,

Thank you for contacting TV Guide App Customer Support.

We apologize for the inconvenience. Please be advised that we are working on 
this for a future release.

Thank you for being a loyal TV Guide user.

Let us know if more help is needed. 
 
Regards,
Valery
TV Guide App Customer Support

 

 


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Re: a Reliable Weather App

[Robin Frost]

  
Hi,
I'm way behind in list mail so if others have mentioned this I
  beg your pardon in advance.
I have loved Weather Bug for many years but its most recent 2
  updates have significantly broken accessibility and I've told them
  so via feedback within the app itself and via Twitter.
In short the broken accessibility is most noticeable in its "now"
  summary screen where VoiceOver is now unable to find much of
  anything to voice and on their cards order screen which is where
  one could reorder the order in which the elements of the now
  summary would appear as you swiped through them on screen.
Richard to find the remove ad thing again tap the menu button in
  the top left corner of the screen and with a bit of moving about
  it'll appear again near the settings element on the screen.
  However, sadly even with ads gone the accessibility issues remain.
I did get a response to them acknowledging my submission but not
  indicating when a fix might appear.
I hope that helps.
Take good care.
Robin


On 1/28/2021 3:20 PM, Richard Turner
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
Well, Weather bug has so many ads it is
  difficult to navigate.
I flicked by something about removing ads,
  but cannot easily find it again.
This one will take lots of patience and
  since I already have a couple other apps that work great for
  my location, I would not recommend this without paying
  whatever it asks for to remove ads.
 
 

   
  Richard
   
  Ralph's
  Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical
  object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
   
   
  My
  web site,
  www.turner42.com
   
   

 

  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
  
  On Behalf Of Richard Turner
  Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 12:12 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: a Reliable Weather App
  

 
This is from asking Siri to find weather
  bug on the App Store https://apps.apple.com/us/app/weatherbug-weather-forecast/id281940292
  

   
  

  Richard


   


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  "Why, what did she tell you?"


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28, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Johna Gravitt 
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RE: Zoom and iPhone question

[R Van Lant]

That’s what I figured, Richard.  Bummer.  I raised my hand for about 20 
minutes, then realized they weren’t’ going to acknowledge me. In this large of 
a webinar, they wanted to control the Q by chat message on only.  I’ll have 
to be prepared with the keyboard next time.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Zoom and iPhone question

Dictate didn’t work because the microphone was taken over for the zoom call.
You have to use a keyboard, braille display or Bluetooth qwerty to send a chat 
message.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 10:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Zoom and iPhone question

Hi,
I like to attend Zoom calls from my phone quite often. I just attended one this 
morning that was in webinar format where I could not unmute to ask a question 
of a panel.  They wanted us to use the Q feature. I can get to this area, but 
my question was long and I had hoped to dictate it, but dictate won’t work 
while on the call.  Any work arounds you can think of this this?  On the fly, I 
tried to log into the call from my laptop to ask my question, but couldn’t’ get 
it loaded in time.  Next time,  I’ll try to have a Bluetooth keyboard 
available, but just curious why dictate couldn’t work and if there is anything 
you’ve done in this situation.

Robin with SE 2020 on IOS 14


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Re: Wireless keyboard command question

[brian albriton]

I will try that enter key. Its a matias keyboard. Nice full-size keyboard. 

> On Feb 7, 2021, at 8:53 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Brian,
> If you are talking about after typing the search info into the field, hitting 
> enter should just work.
> Which keyboard are you using?
>  
> Later,
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of brian 
> albriton
> Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2021 8:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Wireless keyboard command question
>  
> I have forgotten the keystroke that activates the search or go button that 
> you would find in the bottom right hand corner of the screen   As a for 
> instance, searching for an app, in the Apple store. The other example, typing 
> in a web address and pressing the go button  I have a very handy list of 
> keyboard commands. The keystroke may be there, but I am not recognizing it as 
> such.
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Re: Difference in Volume between Ring Tone and Text Tone

[Sandy Finley]

Simon, your question made me laugh. It is not difficult to tell the difference 
between real birds and my ring tones because I am familiar with the patterns in 
the two ring tones. Besides, if I am outside on our screened in porch and the 
cell phone rings from our bedroom, I will not run in to grab it.  That’s what 
voice mail is for.   

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 11, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I have tweet for my texts, and have no problem telling the difference in it 
> and any bird singing. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 9:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Difference in Volume between Ring Tone and Text Tone
> 
> Hi sandy,
> Sorr this question is not going to help you,
> 
> But if you have bird sounds as your tones, How will you know it's your phone 
> if you are outside, Rather than it being birds in the trees?
> 
> I've always wondered how people deal with these tones,  Other than vibrations 
> or haptic feedback, The tones of birds would confuse me.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sandy 
> Finley
> Sent: Thursday, 11 February 2021 2:19 pm
> To: IPhone 
> Subject: Difference in Volume between Ring Tone and Text Tone
> 
> I have had the same ring tone and text tone  sounds for a while so decided 
> today to  change them. I selected the tones I  want, two bird songs I once 
> purchased. Now  the one for texting is too soft. If I adjust the  volume so I 
> can hear the text tones, the ringtone is much too loud. This is. The case 
> regardless of whether I have the volume adjusted with or without the volume 
> buttons  on the side of the phone. It seems to happen no matter which text 
> tone I choose.
> 
> Is there a way to make the volume of one  independent from the volume for the 
> other?  
> 
> Sandy Finley
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Fw: TV Guide App - Case #07100525 - TV Guide Feedback [ ref:_00DE0ZiAl._5000y1ofh85:ref ]

[Andy Baracco]

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Hi Andy,

Thank you for contacting TV Guide App Customer Support.

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RE: Zoom and iPhone question

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

*9 for raising hand not *1.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: February 11, 2021 2:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Zoom and iPhone question

On phone Zoom, *1 is to raise your hand. *6 is to unmute. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of R 
Van Lant
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Zoom and iPhone question

Hi,

I like to attend Zoom calls from my phone quite often. I just attended one this 
morning that was in webinar format where I could not unmute to ask a question 
of a panel.  They wanted us to use the Q feature. I can get to this area, but 
my question was long and I had hoped to dictate it, but dictate won’t work 
while on the call.  Any work arounds you can think of this this?  On the fly, I 
tried to log into the call from my laptop to ask my question, but couldn’t’ get 
it loaded in time.  Next time,  I’ll try to have a Bluetooth keyboard 
available, but just curious why dictate couldn’t work and if there is anything 
you’ve done in this situation.

 

Robin with SE 2020 on IOS 14

 

 

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RE: Talking GPS Apps

[Richard Turner]

I think you will find that TomTom for a blind person is not a good choice, 
while Google Maps is more user friendly than Apple Maps, though both are fine.
I use Google Maps because it is so, so easy to flick through your route before 
you leave to get some of it in your head before leaving the house, whether 
being the navigator for a driver, or just walking.

Apple Maps is getting better in revealing the steps of the route, but it is 
just easier to do in Google Maps.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 2:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking GPS Apps

Yeah tim,

Two I can think o f that are great,
One is apple maps,

And the other is google maps,

 I use the google maps all the time as it's great in new Zealand for getting 
around either in car or walking,

 If you want something better than that then you need to go to the tomtom or 
similar type thing.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lehmann, 
Timothy A
Sent: Friday, 12 February 2021 3:36 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Talking GPS Apps


Any suggestions for talking GPS Apps, which can be instaled on an iPhone. I am 
looking for some that are completely compatible with Voice Over. Thanks and 
have a nice day!


Tim Lehmann
Access Specialist
Student Affairs
Missouri State University
Meyer Library 111G
901 South National Avenue
Springfield, Missouri 65897
Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158
mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dropbox not working with mBraille and no response from tech support

CAUTION: External Sender


Exactly what happens when you try to use the dot Open command, which normally 
pops up the screen with the files from your Dropbox MBraille folder?

I have had different issues over the years with MBraille and Dropbox working 
together. I can say that everything is working fine for me running ios 14.4.

Other than deleting and reinstalling your apps, you can also try this, which 
solved my issue last time.

1, Make a backup of all of the files in your MBraille folder in Dropbox, moving 
them to a different location within Dropbox.
2, Delete the MBraille folder from Dropbox.
3, Within the MBraille app, turn off syncing with Dropbox, then clear it from 
your app switcher.
4, Start the MBraille app and turn back on syncing with Dropbox. MBraille 
should automatically create a new MBraille folder in Dropbox.
5, TYPE something in MBraille and save it so it will be saved to the MBraille 
folder in Dropbox. This is just testing to see if it works.
6, If the save is successful, then use the dot open command to see if you can 
open the file you just saved.
7, If both is successful, then you should be all set, so you can then copy and 
paste all of the files you use to have in the MBraille folder to the new one 
just created.

Hopefully this is helpful and will work!

Chris


> On Feb 11, 2021, at 6:53 AM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Anyone knows what happened to mBraille support?
> I sent messages to the feedback list and never got them or any replies. I did 
> check the spam.
>
> I also went to their contact form online and sent a message. But the page 
> never gave a confirmation that it was received  nor did I hear back from 
> them... Very sad to see this app flag like this.
>
> My dropbox support stopped working. I uninstalled app and reinstalled with no 
> luck. I also turned off and back on the db setting in the mBraille app.
> So now I have no aliases, no syncing of documents and no way to reach out to 
> developer...
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ioana
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Talking GPS Apps

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah tim,

Two I can think o f that are great,
One is apple maps,

And the other is google maps,

 I use the google maps all the time as it's great in new Zealand for getting 
around either in car or walking,

 If you want something better than that then you need to go to the tomtom or 
similar type thing.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lehmann, 
Timothy A
Sent: Friday, 12 February 2021 3:36 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Talking GPS Apps


Any suggestions for talking GPS Apps, which can be instaled on an iPhone. I am 
looking for some that are completely compatible with Voice Over. Thanks and 
have a nice day!


Tim Lehmann
Access Specialist
Student Affairs
Missouri State University
Meyer Library 111G
901 South National Avenue
Springfield, Missouri 65897
Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158
mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dropbox not working with mBraille and no response from tech support

CAUTION: External Sender


Exactly what happens when you try to use the dot Open command, which normally 
pops up the screen with the files from your Dropbox MBraille folder?

I have had different issues over the years with MBraille and Dropbox working 
together. I can say that everything is working fine for me running ios 14.4.

Other than deleting and reinstalling your apps, you can also try this, which 
solved my issue last time.

1, Make a backup of all of the files in your MBraille folder in Dropbox, moving 
them to a different location within Dropbox.
2, Delete the MBraille folder from Dropbox.
3, Within the MBraille app, turn off syncing with Dropbox, then clear it from 
your app switcher.
4, Start the MBraille app and turn back on syncing with Dropbox. MBraille 
should automatically create a new MBraille folder in Dropbox.
5, TYPE something in MBraille and save it so it will be saved to the MBraille 
folder in Dropbox. This is just testing to see if it works.
6, If the save is successful, then use the dot open command to see if you can 
open the file you just saved.
7, If both is successful, then you should be all set, so you can then copy and 
paste all of the files you use to have in the MBraille folder to the new one 
just created.

Hopefully this is helpful and will work!

Chris


> On Feb 11, 2021, at 6:53 AM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Anyone knows what happened to mBraille support?
> I sent messages to the feedback list and never got them or any replies. I did 
> check the spam.
>
> I also went to their contact form online and sent a message. But the page 
> never gave a confirmation that it was received  nor did I hear back from 
> them... Very sad to see this app flag like this.
>
> My dropbox support stopped working. I uninstalled app and reinstalled with no 
> luck. I also turned off and back on the db setting in the mBraille app.
> So now I have no aliases, no syncing of documents and no way to reach out to 
> developer...
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ioana
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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RE: Talking GPS Apps

[Richard Turner]

The great thing about combining apps like SoundScape, and Google Maps or Apple 
Maps is that it's all free.
Of course, so is Nearby Explorer, etc.
Back in the day when I was working for the rehabilitation program for the blind 
I got to use the Sendero GPS with the BrailleNote PK, which was a fabulous and 
compact solution.
Of course, if I had to buy that package, it would have been over $5000.
Now, for the cost of an iPhone, you have more and better GPS options in your 
hand.

Good luck with the snow shoveling app, grin.


Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thomas 
Frank
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 1:00 PM
To: VIPhone via 
Cc: Tom Frank 
Subject: Re: Talking GPS Apps

I use nearby explorer when I am giving my wife driving directions. For walking 
around the neighborhood, I use Sound Scape by Microsoft. I just checked out 
Apple Maps again and it still seems to be quite accessible. You can also use a 
combination. For example, if you are walking in unfamiliar territory, plot out 
your route with Apple Maps or google Maps. Then use Sound Scape to help you 
find each street. Poi and crosswalk on your journey. Happy walking. 
Unfortunately, here in Northern Vermont, none of these apps shovel snow off the 
sidewalks or spread sand and salt on ice. Maybe in the future.
Thomas Frank
vermont...@gmail.com



> On Feb 11, 2021, at 2:55 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Lazarillo is free.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
> rner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C7e84ab5deabf49cf68ec08d8ced00f94%7
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> UWm2tM2lLE%3Dreserved=0
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> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Andy Baracco
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 11:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Talking GPS Apps
> 
> So many i wouldn't know where to start.  I like lazarillo.  It is either free 
> or very low cost.
> 
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lehmann, Timothy A" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 6:36 AM
> Subject: Talking GPS Apps
> 
> 
> 
> Any suggestions for talking GPS Apps, which can be instaled on an 
> iPhone. I am looking for some that are completely compatible with 
> Voice Over. Thanks and have a nice day!
> 
> 
> Tim Lehmann
> Access Specialist
> Student Affairs
> Missouri State University
> Meyer Library 111G
> 901 South National Avenue
> Springfield, Missouri 65897
> Office 417-836-4248 Fax 417-836-3158
> mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Chris Chaffin
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 8:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dropbox not working with mBraille and no response from 
> tech support
> 
> CAUTION: External Sender
> 
> 
> Exactly what happens when you try to use the dot Open command, which 
> normally pops up the screen with the files from your Dropbox MBraille 
> folder?
> 
> I have had different issues over the years with MBraille and Dropbox 
> working together. I can say that everything is working fine for me running 
> ios 14.4.
> 
> Other than deleting and reinstalling your apps, you can also try this, 
> which solved my issue last time.
> 
> 1, Make a backup of all of the files in your MBraille folder in 
> Dropbox, moving them to a different location within Dropbox.
> 2, Delete the MBraille folder from Dropbox.
> 3, Within the MBraille app, turn off syncing with Dropbox, then clear 
> it from your app switcher.
> 4, Start the MBraille app and turn back on syncing with Dropbox. 
> MBraille should automatically create a new MBraille folder in Dropbox.
> 5, TYPE something in MBraille and save it so it will be saved to the 
> MBraille folder in Dropbox. This is just testing to see if it works.
> 6, If the save is successful, then use the dot open command to see if 
> you can open the file you just saved.
> 7, If both is successful, then you should be all set, so you can then 
> copy and paste all of the files you use to have in the MBraille folder 
> to the new one just created.
> 
> Hopefully this is helpful and will work!
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Feb 11, 2021, at 6:53 AM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Anyone knows what happened to mBraille support?
>> I sent messages to the feedback list and never got them or any 
>> replies. I did check the spam.
>> 
>> I also went to their contact form online and sent a message. But the 
>> page never gave 

Re: Talking GPS Apps

[Thomas Frank]

I use nearby explorer when I am giving my wife driving directions. For walking 
around the neighborhood, I use Sound Scape by Microsoft. I just checked out 
Apple Maps again and it still seems to be quite accessible. You can also use a 
combination. For example, if you are walking in unfamiliar territory, plot out 
your route with Apple Maps or google Maps. Then use Sound Scape to help you 
find each street. Poi and crosswalk on your journey. Happy walking. 
Unfortunately, here in Northern Vermont, none of these apps shovel snow off the 
sidewalks or spread sand and salt on ice. Maybe in the future.
Thomas Frank
vermont...@gmail.com



> On Feb 11, 2021, at 2:55 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Lazarillo is free.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
> Baracco
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 11:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Talking GPS Apps
> 
> So many i wouldn't know where to start.  I like lazarillo.  It is either free 
> or very low cost.
> 
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lehmann, Timothy A" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 6:36 AM
> Subject: Talking GPS Apps
> 
> 
> 
> Any suggestions for talking GPS Apps, which can be instaled on an iPhone. I 
> am looking for some that are completely compatible with Voice Over. Thanks 
> and have a nice day!
> 
> 
> Tim Lehmann
> Access Specialist
> Student Affairs
> Missouri State University
> Meyer Library 111G
> 901 South National Avenue
> Springfield, Missouri 65897
> Office 417-836-4248 Fax 417-836-3158
> mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
> Chaffin
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 8:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dropbox not working with mBraille and no response from tech 
> support
> 
> CAUTION: External Sender
> 
> 
> Exactly what happens when you try to use the dot Open command, which 
> normally pops up the screen with the files from your Dropbox MBraille 
> folder?
> 
> I have had different issues over the years with MBraille and Dropbox working 
> together. I can say that everything is working fine for me running ios 14.4.
> 
> Other than deleting and reinstalling your apps, you can also try this, which 
> solved my issue last time.
> 
> 1, Make a backup of all of the files in your MBraille folder in Dropbox, 
> moving them to a different location within Dropbox.
> 2, Delete the MBraille folder from Dropbox.
> 3, Within the MBraille app, turn off syncing with Dropbox, then clear it 
> from your app switcher.
> 4, Start the MBraille app and turn back on syncing with Dropbox. MBraille 
> should automatically create a new MBraille folder in Dropbox.
> 5, TYPE something in MBraille and save it so it will be saved to the 
> MBraille folder in Dropbox. This is just testing to see if it works.
> 6, If the save is successful, then use the dot open command to see if you 
> can open the file you just saved.
> 7, If both is successful, then you should be all set, so you can then copy 
> and paste all of the files you use to have in the MBraille folder to the new 
> one just created.
> 
> Hopefully this is helpful and will work!
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Feb 11, 2021, at 6:53 AM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Anyone knows what happened to mBraille support?
>> I sent messages to the feedback list and never got them or any replies. I 
>> did check the spam.
>> 
>> I also went to their contact form online and sent a message. But the page 
>> never gave a confirmation that it was received  nor did I hear back from 
>> them... Very sad to see this app flag like this.
>> 
>> My dropbox support stopped working. I uninstalled app and reinstalled with 
>> no luck. I also turned off and back on the db setting in the mBraille app.
>> So now I have no aliases, no syncing of documents and no way to reach out 
>> to developer...
>> Any ideas?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Ioana
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: Zoom and iPhone question

[Brad Snyder]

Correction:  When connecting with Zoom on a regular telephone call, star-9, is 
used to raise or lower your hand.

- Brad -


On Feb 11, 2021, at 13:50, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

On phone Zoom, *1 is to raise your hand. *6 is to unmute. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of R 
Van Lant
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Zoom and iPhone question

Hi,

I like to attend Zoom calls from my phone quite often. I just attended one this 
morning that was in webinar format where I could not unmute to ask a question 
of a panel.  They wanted us to use the Q feature. I can get to this area, but 
my question was long and I had hoped to dictate it, but dictate won’t work 
while on the call.  Any work arounds you can think of this this?  On the fly, I 
tried to log into the call from my laptop to ask my question, but couldn’t’ get 
it loaded in time.  Next time,  I’ll try to have a Bluetooth keyboard 
available, but just curious why dictate couldn’t work and if there is anything 
you’ve done in this situation.



Robin with SE 2020 on IOS 14





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RE: Talking GPS Apps

[Richard Turner]

Lazarillo is free.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking GPS Apps

So many i wouldn't know where to start.  I like lazarillo.  It is either free 
or very low cost.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Lehmann, Timothy A" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 6:36 AM
Subject: Talking GPS Apps



Any suggestions for talking GPS Apps, which can be instaled on an iPhone. I 
am looking for some that are completely compatible with Voice Over. Thanks 
and have a nice day!


Tim Lehmann
Access Specialist
Student Affairs
Missouri State University
Meyer Library 111G
901 South National Avenue
Springfield, Missouri 65897
Office 417-836-4248 Fax 417-836-3158
mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dropbox not working with mBraille and no response from tech 
support

CAUTION: External Sender


Exactly what happens when you try to use the dot Open command, which 
normally pops up the screen with the files from your Dropbox MBraille 
folder?

I have had different issues over the years with MBraille and Dropbox working 
together. I can say that everything is working fine for me running ios 14.4.

Other than deleting and reinstalling your apps, you can also try this, which 
solved my issue last time.

1, Make a backup of all of the files in your MBraille folder in Dropbox, 
moving them to a different location within Dropbox.
2, Delete the MBraille folder from Dropbox.
3, Within the MBraille app, turn off syncing with Dropbox, then clear it 
from your app switcher.
4, Start the MBraille app and turn back on syncing with Dropbox. MBraille 
should automatically create a new MBraille folder in Dropbox.
5, TYPE something in MBraille and save it so it will be saved to the 
MBraille folder in Dropbox. This is just testing to see if it works.
6, If the save is successful, then use the dot open command to see if you 
can open the file you just saved.
7, If both is successful, then you should be all set, so you can then copy 
and paste all of the files you use to have in the MBraille folder to the new 
one just created.

Hopefully this is helpful and will work!

Chris


> On Feb 11, 2021, at 6:53 AM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Anyone knows what happened to mBraille support?
> I sent messages to the feedback list and never got them or any replies. I 
> did check the spam.
>
> I also went to their contact form online and sent a message. But the page 
> never gave a confirmation that it was received  nor did I hear back from 
> them... Very sad to see this app flag like this.
>
> My dropbox support stopped working. I uninstalled app and reinstalled with 
> no luck. I also turned off and back on the db setting in the mBraille app.
> So now I have no aliases, no syncing of documents and no way to reach out 
> to developer...
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ioana
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Talking GPS Apps

[Andy Baracco]

So many i wouldn't know where to start.  I like lazarillo.  It is either 
free or very low cost.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Lehmann, Timothy A" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 6:36 AM
Subject: Talking GPS Apps



Any suggestions for talking GPS Apps, which can be instaled on an iPhone. I 
am looking for some that are completely compatible with Voice Over. Thanks 
and have a nice day!



Tim Lehmann
Access Specialist
Student Affairs
Missouri State University
Meyer Library 111G
901 South National Avenue
Springfield, Missouri 65897
Office 417-836-4248 Fax 417-836-3158
mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin

Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dropbox not working with mBraille and no response from tech 
support


CAUTION: External Sender


Exactly what happens when you try to use the dot Open command, which 
normally pops up the screen with the files from your Dropbox MBraille 
folder?


I have had different issues over the years with MBraille and Dropbox working 
together. I can say that everything is working fine for me running ios 14.4.


Other than deleting and reinstalling your apps, you can also try this, which 
solved my issue last time.


1, Make a backup of all of the files in your MBraille folder in Dropbox, 
moving them to a different location within Dropbox.

2, Delete the MBraille folder from Dropbox.
3, Within the MBraille app, turn off syncing with Dropbox, then clear it 
from your app switcher.
4, Start the MBraille app and turn back on syncing with Dropbox. MBraille 
should automatically create a new MBraille folder in Dropbox.
5, TYPE something in MBraille and save it so it will be saved to the 
MBraille folder in Dropbox. This is just testing to see if it works.
6, If the save is successful, then use the dot open command to see if you 
can open the file you just saved.
7, If both is successful, then you should be all set, so you can then copy 
and paste all of the files you use to have in the MBraille folder to the new 
one just created.


Hopefully this is helpful and will work!

Chris



On Feb 11, 2021, at 6:53 AM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:

Hi all,

Anyone knows what happened to mBraille support?
I sent messages to the feedback list and never got them or any replies. I 
did check the spam.


I also went to their contact form online and sent a message. But the page 
never gave a confirmation that it was received  nor did I hear back from 
them... Very sad to see this app flag like this.


My dropbox support stopped working. I uninstalled app and reinstalled with 
no luck. I also turned off and back on the db setting in the mBraille app.
So now I have no aliases, no syncing of documents and no way to reach out 
to developer...

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Ioana


Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Zoom and iPhone question

[Carolyn]

On phone Zoom, *1 is to raise your hand. *6 is to unmute. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of R 
Van Lant
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Zoom and iPhone question

Hi,

I like to attend Zoom calls from my phone quite often. I just attended one this 
morning that was in webinar format where I could not unmute to ask a question 
of a panel.  They wanted us to use the Q feature. I can get to this area, but 
my question was long and I had hoped to dictate it, but dictate won’t work 
while on the call.  Any work arounds you can think of this this?  On the fly, I 
tried to log into the call from my laptop to ask my question, but couldn’t’ get 
it loaded in time.  Next time,  I’ll try to have a Bluetooth keyboard 
available, but just curious why dictate couldn’t work and if there is anything 
you’ve done in this situation.

 

Robin with SE 2020 on IOS 14

 

 

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Re: Talking GPS Apps

[Gradimir Kragić]

Hi,

My suggestions is  Loadstone GPS is a powerful, easy-to-use app that
enables blind pedestrians to "go blindly where everyone sighted has gone
before." It is designed by the blind, for the blind, specifically for those
who use Voiceover. Initially launched in July 2017, Version 1.4 hit the App
Store in August 2019 and includes the much-requested turn-by-turn
navigation function. The User Guide was thoroughly revised for Version 1.4.
Two subsequent versions were released later in 2019 to address bug fixes
resulting from the IOS 13 updates.

More information:
http://loadstone-gps.com/

AppleStore:
https://apps.apple.com/app/loadstone-gps/id1162529723


From: "Lehmann, Timothy A" 
To: 
Subject: Talking GPS Apps



Any suggestions for talking GPS Apps, which can be instaled on an iPhone. I
am looking for some that are completely compatible with Voice Over. Thanks
and have a nice day!


Tim Lehmann
Access Specialist
Student Affairs
Missouri State University
Meyer Library 111G
901 South National Avenue
Springfield, Missouri 65897
Office 417-836-4248 Fax 417-836-3158
mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu

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RE: Talking GPS Apps

[deidreandlouise]

Mine is working just fine too. 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 1:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking GPS Apps

I have Nearby Explore on my iPhone, and from what I can tell it's still works 
as it always has. I'm updating its map database right now. I see no reason why 
you can't use it if you want to. I certainly am.

- Brad -

On Feb 11, 2021, at 12:45, Beverly Wieland  wrote:

If you download Good Maps, do you need to delete Nearby Explorer?
I downloaded Nearby Explorer in July, 2019, and was planning to learn to use it 
as soon as time permits.
But now some of their maps might be getting outdated.

Should I just start with the Good Maps manual, assuming there is one, and 
forget about Nearby Explorer?

Thanks in advance for the advice,
Beverly Wieland


On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, Nimer Jaber wrote:

> Hello Deidre,
> 
> The setting you are looking for to control shops is the increase and 
> decrease buttons at the top of the app. Also, you should know that the 
> app is no longer being supported, and new users cannot download it any longer.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 9:16 AM  wrote:
> 
>> I have simplified my approach to making choices around the many 
>> offerings out there that offer me good accessibility. I do not need 3 
>> different GPS or scanning Apps and if I find one that works well, and 
>> way better than Apps we all tested out over the last ten years, I 
>> stick to them. Long gone is KNFB Reader, Digitize, Seeing Eye, and 
>> Blind Square which I must not have tweaked easily enough to use with 
>> great ease. I haven't looked at it in years, so I'm not sure how it 
>> works now. I admire the techs and adaptive tech consultants on this 
>> list, and  their thoroughness in checking out the many different Apps 
>> is impressive, and I am grateful to have access to their body of knowledge 
>> and their willingness to share it.
>> 
>> I use Nearby Explorer On-Line. It's free and easy and very vocal. I 
>> don't know if you can mark a route but it will tell you when you 
>> change direction which I find essential at times I get turned around, 
>> or my dog takes me on a detour when we are on a recreational walk.
>> 
>> In my town, I know the streets throughout the entire city. I can tell 
>> which side of a street I am on based on even and odd number 
>> addresses, which is useful for when I've crossed a street 
>> unknowingly, like in my neighborhood where it's sometimes hard to 
>> tell where the corner is this time of year due to messy clumps of 
>> snow and low traffic flow. At night when temperatures plummet around 
>> here, I make sure I have my phone charged and in my pocket with 
>> cellular data and location tracking already turned on.  If my dog 
>> decides she wants a longer walk, and does not default to our usual 
>> turns, well, with not a soul to be found on the street, in a split 
>> second I can open Nearby Explorer and turn her around and insist on 
>> getting home
>> 
>> I am told the names of streets when they are nearby, and I get block 
>> number info like 1-33 or 36-59, and that's cool.
>> 
>>   One thing I'd definitely like to limit is hearing 
>> locations such as shops that are at quite a distance away from where 
>> I am, like as far away as a whole block but I'm not sure which 
>> setting it is. I think it did exist in the full App I once had on my 
>> phone, but I'm not sure about the newer On-Line App. It is an App you 
>> download so I'm not sure how the On-Line version differs from the older App.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *Deidre*
>> 
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On 
>> Behalf Of *Richard Turner
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2021 10:21 AM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: Talking GPS Apps
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Most GPS apps work fine with VoiceOver.
>> 
>> Google Maps is my go to GPS app.  There is a setting for more 
>> detailed walking directions for visually impaired.
>> 
>> Blind Square is a great app for orientation and can launch Apple 
>> Maps, Google Maps, and others to get turn by turn directions.
>> 
>> Good Maps Explore is the new version of the prior APH map that was 
>> paid to have maps stored locally.  It does both orientation and turn 
>> by turn directions, maps are stored in the cloud  It shows up as 
>> Explore on the iPhone..
>> 
>> Microsoft Soundscape is very popular, especially if you have bone 
>> conduction headphones since it speaks out of the side closest to the 
>> street/business, etc.  So you get real orientation.
>> 
>> Seeing Eye GPS is the Cadillac of GPS apps for the blind at $200.
>> 
>> Lazarillo is also an excellent, free, orientation app and can do its 
>> own walking directions, as well as launch other maps for turn by turn 
>> driving/riding directions.
>> 
>> MapQuest is good in the United States, but not as user friendly as 
>> the others.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> But again, they all 

Re: Talking GPS Apps

[Brad Snyder]

I have Nearby Explore on my iPhone, and from what I can tell it's still works 
as it always has. I'm updating its map database right now. I see no reason why 
you can't use it if you want to. I certainly am.

- Brad -

On Feb 11, 2021, at 12:45, Beverly Wieland  wrote:

If you download Good Maps, do you need to delete Nearby Explorer?
I downloaded Nearby Explorer in July, 2019, and was planning to learn to use it 
as soon as time permits.
But now some of their maps might be getting outdated.

Should I just start with the Good Maps manual, assuming there is one, and 
forget about Nearby Explorer?

Thanks in advance for the advice,
Beverly Wieland


On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, Nimer Jaber wrote:

> Hello Deidre,
> 
> The setting you are looking for to control shops is the increase and
> decrease buttons at the top of the app. Also, you should know that the app
> is no longer being supported, and new users cannot download it any longer.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 9:16 AM  wrote:
> 
>> I have simplified my approach to making choices around the many offerings
>> out there that offer me good accessibility. I do not need 3 different GPS
>> or scanning Apps and if I find one that works well, and way better than
>> Apps we all tested out over the last ten years, I stick to them. Long gone
>> is KNFB Reader, Digitize, Seeing Eye, and Blind Square which I must not
>> have tweaked easily enough to use with great ease. I haven't looked at it
>> in years, so I'm not sure how it works now. I admire the techs and adaptive
>> tech consultants on this list, and  their thoroughness in checking out the
>> many different Apps is impressive, and I am grateful to have access to
>> their body of knowledge and their willingness to share it.
>> 
>> I use Nearby Explorer On-Line. It's free and easy and very vocal. I don't
>> know if you can mark a route but it will tell you when you change direction
>> which I find essential at times I get turned around, or my dog takes me on
>> a detour when we are on a recreational walk.
>> 
>> In my town, I know the streets throughout the entire city. I can tell
>> which side of a street I am on based on even and odd number addresses,
>> which is useful for when I've crossed a street unknowingly, like in my
>> neighborhood where it's sometimes hard to tell where the corner is this
>> time of year due to messy clumps of snow and low traffic flow. At night
>> when temperatures plummet around here, I make sure I have my phone charged
>> and in my pocket with cellular data and location tracking already turned
>> on.  If my dog decides she wants a longer walk, and does not default to our
>> usual turns, well, with not a soul to be found on the street, in a split
>> second I can open Nearby Explorer and turn her around and insist on getting
>> home
>> 
>> I am told the names of streets when they are nearby, and I get block
>> number info like 1-33 or 36-59, and that's cool.
>> 
>>   One thing I'd definitely like to limit is hearing locations
>> such as shops that are at quite a distance away from where I am, like as
>> far away as a whole block but I'm not sure which setting it is. I think it
>> did exist in the full App I once had on my phone, but I'm not sure about
>> the newer On-Line App. It is an App you download so I'm not sure how the
>> On-Line version differs from the older App.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *Deidre*
>> 
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
>> *Richard Turner
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2021 10:21 AM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: Talking GPS Apps
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Most GPS apps work fine with VoiceOver.
>> 
>> Google Maps is my go to GPS app.  There is a setting for more detailed
>> walking directions for visually impaired.
>> 
>> Blind Square is a great app for orientation and can launch Apple Maps,
>> Google Maps, and others to get turn by turn directions.
>> 
>> Good Maps Explore is the new version of the prior APH map that was paid to
>> have maps stored locally.  It does both orientation and turn by turn
>> directions, maps are stored in the cloud  It shows up as Explore on the
>> iPhone..
>> 
>> Microsoft Soundscape is very popular, especially if you have bone
>> conduction headphones since it speaks out of the side closest to the
>> street/business, etc.  So you get real orientation.
>> 
>> Seeing Eye GPS is the Cadillac of GPS apps for the blind at $200.
>> 
>> Lazarillo is also an excellent, free, orientation app and can do its own
>> walking directions, as well as launch other maps for turn by turn
>> driving/riding directions.
>> 
>> MapQuest is good in the United States, but not as user friendly as the
>> others.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> But again, they all work fine with VoiceOver.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 

RE: Talking GPS Apps

[Richard Turner]

No, they can coexist.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Beverly 
Wieland
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 10:45 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Talking GPS Apps

If you download Good Maps, do you need to delete Nearby Explorer?
I downloaded Nearby Explorer in July, 2019, and was planning to learn to use it 
as soon as time permits.
But now some of their maps might be getting outdated.

Should I just start with the Good Maps manual, assuming there is one, and 
forget about Nearby Explorer?

Thanks in advance for the advice,
Beverly Wieland


On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, Nimer Jaber wrote:

> Hello Deidre,
>
> The setting you are looking for to control shops is the increase and 
> decrease buttons at the top of the app. Also, you should know that the 
> app is no longer being supported, and new users cannot download it any longer.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 9:16 AM  wrote:
>
>> I have simplified my approach to making choices around the many 
>> offerings out there that offer me good accessibility. I do not need 3 
>> different GPS or scanning Apps and if I find one that works well, and 
>> way better than Apps we all tested out over the last ten years, I 
>> stick to them. Long gone is KNFB Reader, Digitize, Seeing Eye, and 
>> Blind Square which I must not have tweaked easily enough to use with 
>> great ease. I haven't looked at it in years, so I'm not sure how it 
>> works now. I admire the techs and adaptive tech consultants on this 
>> list, and  their thoroughness in checking out the many different Apps 
>> is impressive, and I am grateful to have access to their body of knowledge 
>> and their willingness to share it.
>>
>> I use Nearby Explorer On-Line. It's free and easy and very vocal. I 
>> don't know if you can mark a route but it will tell you when you 
>> change direction which I find essential at times I get turned around, 
>> or my dog takes me on a detour when we are on a recreational walk.
>>
>> In my town, I know the streets throughout the entire city. I can tell 
>> which side of a street I am on based on even and odd number 
>> addresses, which is useful for when I've crossed a street 
>> unknowingly, like in my neighborhood where it's sometimes hard to 
>> tell where the corner is this time of year due to messy clumps of 
>> snow and low traffic flow. At night when temperatures plummet around 
>> here, I make sure I have my phone charged and in my pocket with 
>> cellular data and location tracking already turned on.  If my dog 
>> decides she wants a longer walk, and does not default to our usual 
>> turns, well, with not a soul to be found on the street, in a split 
>> second I can open Nearby Explorer and turn her around and insist on 
>> getting home
>>
>> I am told the names of streets when they are nearby, and I get block 
>> number info like 1-33 or 36-59, and that's cool.
>>
>>One thing I'd definitely like to limit is hearing 
>> locations such as shops that are at quite a distance away from where 
>> I am, like as far away as a whole block but I'm not sure which 
>> setting it is. I think it did exist in the full App I once had on my 
>> phone, but I'm not sure about the newer On-Line App. It is an App you 
>> download so I'm not sure how the On-Line version differs from the older App.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Deidre*
>>
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On 
>> Behalf Of *Richard Turner
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2021 10:21 AM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: Talking GPS Apps
>>
>>
>>
>> Most GPS apps work fine with VoiceOver.
>>
>> Google Maps is my go to GPS app.  There is a setting for more 
>> detailed walking directions for visually impaired.
>>
>> Blind Square is a great app for orientation and can launch Apple 
>> Maps, Google Maps, and others to get turn by turn directions.
>>
>> Good Maps Explore is the new version of the prior APH map that was 
>> paid to have maps stored locally.  It does both orientation and turn 
>> by turn directions, maps are stored in the cloud  It shows up as 
>> Explore on the iPhone..
>>
>> Microsoft Soundscape is very popular, especially if you have bone 
>> conduction headphones since it speaks out of the side closest to the 
>> street/business, etc.  So you get real orientation.
>>
>> Seeing Eye GPS is the Cadillac of GPS apps for the blind at $200.
>>
>> Lazarillo is also an excellent, free, orientation app and can do its 
>> own walking directions, as well as launch other maps for turn by turn 
>> driving/riding directions.
>>
>> MapQuest is good in the United States, but not as user friendly as 
>> the others.
>>
>>
>>
>> But again, they all work fine with VoiceOver.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
>> object<>to realize that you are in a 

RE: Talking GPS Apps

[Richard Turner]

This doesn’t spell it out exactly, but here is a news release, followed by a 
link to the new company created by APH, Access Explore.
For Immediate Release
Mike May Joins Access Explorer Team as Chief Evangelist
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (July 9, 2019) – Mike May, a pioneer in accessible navigation, 
has joined the
Access Explorer Team (an incorporated company owned by American Printing House 
for the
Blind). May brings experience that will help the company continue to lead the 
way in accessible
navigation.
“Mike has more than 25 years of experience in accessible indoor wayfinding and 
literally
originated this effort in the US. There is nobody with more experience or 
passion for accessible
indoor navigation than Mike,” says Access Explorer CEO, Jose Gaztambide. “He’s 
an incredible
leader and human being, and everybody at Access Explorer and the indoor 
navigation industry
will benefit from his commitment and presence.”
Mike will help the Access Explorer company develop partnerships, identify 
resources to help
expand its mission, and ensure Access Explorer’s work meets the highest 
standard of
accessibility.
“I’ve been learning how to navigate since I was blinded from an explosion at 
age 3, and have
worked on accessible navigation as a profession since the mid 90s,” explains 
May. “The timing
for indoor navigation to be adopted by the public is now – it’s the newest 
frontier. I believe the
Access Explorer company is poised to make sure accessibility is part of that 
breakthrough, and I
look forward to being part of this important mission.”
The Nearby Explorer app was created by the non-profit, American Printing House 
for the Blind
(APH). For 161 years APH has developed products for people who are blind and 
visually
impaired. As the popularity of Nearby Explorer grew, APH saw the need to take 
the app and
concept to the next level. In March of this year, after a period of studying 
the business need and
feasibility, and developing unique approaches to solving the obstacles to 
indoor navigation, APH
formed the new for-profit corporation: Access Explorer, Inc.
To schedule an interview, or visit or learn more about Access Explorer, contact 
Jonathan Wahl
at 502-216-9075 or jw...@aph.org 
jw...@aph.org.
About Access Explorer, Inc.
Through technology, Access Explorer ensures people who are blind or visually 
impaired can
independently navigate through venues and easily locate entrances, elevators, 
restrooms and
other points of interest. For more information, please visit 
www.accessexplorer.net
or go directly to https://www.goodmaps.com/

But over a year and a half ago, APH said Nearby Explorer would no longer be 
developed, but will work for some time to come.
I cannot find that, but you could of course, ask APH directly.


Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking GPS Apps

I’m a bit confused here, I use Nearby explorer on a regular basis and did not 
know it was being taken over  by Good maps.  Since when?
I have both apps on my phone

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking GPS Apps

Diedra,
You may want to check out Good Maps Explorer which is taking the place of 
Nearby Explorer.
It will show up simply as Explorer on your phone.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking GPS Apps

I have simplified my approach to making choices around the many offerings out 
there that offer me good accessibility. I do not need 3 different GPS or 
scanning Apps and if I find one that works well, and way better than Apps we 
all tested out over the last ten years, I stick to them. Long gone is KNFB 
Reader, Digitize, Seeing Eye, and Blind Square which I must not have tweaked 
easily enough to use with great ease. I 

Re: Talking GPS Apps

[Beverly Wieland]

If you download Good Maps, do you need to delete Nearby Explorer?
I downloaded Nearby Explorer in July, 2019, and was planning to learn to 
use it as soon as time permits.

But now some of their maps might be getting outdated.

Should I just start with the Good Maps manual, assuming there is one, and 
forget about Nearby Explorer?


Thanks in advance for the advice,
Beverly Wieland


On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, Nimer Jaber wrote:


Hello Deidre,

The setting you are looking for to control shops is the increase and
decrease buttons at the top of the app. Also, you should know that the app
is no longer being supported, and new users cannot download it any longer.

Thanks.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 9:16 AM  wrote:


I have simplified my approach to making choices around the many offerings
out there that offer me good accessibility. I do not need 3 different GPS
or scanning Apps and if I find one that works well, and way better than
Apps we all tested out over the last ten years, I stick to them. Long gone
is KNFB Reader, Digitize, Seeing Eye, and Blind Square which I must not
have tweaked easily enough to use with great ease. I haven't looked at it
in years, so I'm not sure how it works now. I admire the techs and adaptive
tech consultants on this list, and  their thoroughness in checking out the
many different Apps is impressive, and I am grateful to have access to
their body of knowledge and their willingness to share it.

I use Nearby Explorer On-Line. It's free and easy and very vocal. I don't
know if you can mark a route but it will tell you when you change direction
which I find essential at times I get turned around, or my dog takes me on
a detour when we are on a recreational walk.

In my town, I know the streets throughout the entire city. I can tell
which side of a street I am on based on even and odd number addresses,
which is useful for when I've crossed a street unknowingly, like in my
neighborhood where it's sometimes hard to tell where the corner is this
time of year due to messy clumps of snow and low traffic flow. At night
when temperatures plummet around here, I make sure I have my phone charged
and in my pocket with cellular data and location tracking already turned
on.  If my dog decides she wants a longer walk, and does not default to our
usual turns, well, with not a soul to be found on the street, in a split
second I can open Nearby Explorer and turn her around and insist on getting
home

I am told the names of streets when they are nearby, and I get block
number info like 1-33 or 36-59, and that's cool.

   One thing I'd definitely like to limit is hearing locations
such as shops that are at quite a distance away from where I am, like as
far away as a whole block but I'm not sure which setting it is. I think it
did exist in the full App I once had on my phone, but I'm not sure about
the newer On-Line App. It is an App you download so I'm not sure how the
On-Line version differs from the older App.



*Deidre*

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
*Richard Turner
*Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2021 10:21 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Talking GPS Apps



Most GPS apps work fine with VoiceOver.

Google Maps is my go to GPS app.  There is a setting for more detailed
walking directions for visually impaired.

Blind Square is a great app for orientation and can launch Apple Maps,
Google Maps, and others to get turn by turn directions.

Good Maps Explore is the new version of the prior APH map that was paid to
have maps stored locally.  It does both orientation and turn by turn
directions, maps are stored in the cloud  It shows up as Explore on the
iPhone..

Microsoft Soundscape is very popular, especially if you have bone
conduction headphones since it speaks out of the side closest to the
street/business, etc.  So you get real orientation.

Seeing Eye GPS is the Cadillac of GPS apps for the blind at $200.

Lazarillo is also an excellent, free, orientation app and can do its own
walking directions, as well as launch other maps for turn by turn
driving/riding directions.

MapQuest is good in the United States, but not as user friendly as the
others.



But again, they all work fine with VoiceOver.







Richard



Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
realize that you are in a hurry.





My web site, www.turner42.com







*From:* orbit-rea...@groups.io  *On Behalf Of *Lehmann,
Timothy A
*Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2021 4:54 AM
*To:* orbit-rea...@groups.io
*Subject:* [orbit-reader] Talking GPS's





Any suggestions for a talking GPS-App which can be downloaded to an
iPhone? I am trying to find one that is fully accessible using Voice Over.
Thanks and have a nice day!



Tim Lehmann

Access Specialist

Student Affairs

Missouri State University

Meyer Library 111G

901 South National Avenue

Springfield, Missouri 65897

Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158

mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu 



*From:* 

RE: Zoom and iPhone question

[Richard Turner]

Dictate didn't work because the microphone was taken over for the zoom call.
You have to use a keyboard, braille display or Bluetooth qwerty to send a chat 
message.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 10:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Zoom and iPhone question

Hi,
I like to attend Zoom calls from my phone quite often. I just attended one this 
morning that was in webinar format where I could not unmute to ask a question 
of a panel.  They wanted us to use the Q feature. I can get to this area, but 
my question was long and I had hoped to dictate it, but dictate won't work 
while on the call.  Any work arounds you can think of this this?  On the fly, I 
tried to log into the call from my laptop to ask my question, but couldn't' get 
it loaded in time.  Next time,  I'll try to have a Bluetooth keyboard 
available, but just curious why dictate couldn't work and if there is anything 
you've done in this situation.

Robin with SE 2020 on IOS 14


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RE: Talking GPS Apps

[Johna Gravitt]

I’m a bit confused here, I use Nearby explorer on a regular basis and did not 
know it was being taken over  by Good maps.  Since when?
I have both apps on my phone

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking GPS Apps

Diedra,
You may want to check out Good Maps Explorer which is taking the place of 
Nearby Explorer.
It will show up simply as Explorer on your phone.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking GPS Apps

I have simplified my approach to making choices around the many offerings out 
there that offer me good accessibility. I do not need 3 different GPS or 
scanning Apps and if I find one that works well, and way better than Apps we 
all tested out over the last ten years, I stick to them. Long gone is KNFB 
Reader, Digitize, Seeing Eye, and Blind Square which I must not have tweaked 
easily enough to use with great ease. I haven't looked at it in years, so I'm 
not sure how it works now. I admire the techs and adaptive tech consultants on 
this list, and  their thoroughness in checking out the many different Apps is 
impressive, and I am grateful to have access to their body of knowledge and 
their willingness to share it.
I use Nearby Explorer On-Line. It's free and easy and very vocal. I don't know 
if you can mark a route but it will tell you when you change direction which I 
find essential at times I get turned around, or my dog takes me on a detour 
when we are on a recreational walk.
In my town, I know the streets throughout the entire city. I can tell which 
side of a street I am on based on even and odd number addresses, which is 
useful for when I've crossed a street unknowingly, like in my neighborhood 
where it's sometimes hard to tell where the corner is this time of year due to 
messy clumps of snow and low traffic flow. At night when temperatures plummet 
around here, I make sure I have my phone charged and in my pocket with cellular 
data and location tracking already turned on.  If my dog decides she wants a 
longer walk, and does not default to our usual turns, well, with not a soul to 
be found on the street, in a split second I can open Nearby Explorer and turn 
her around and insist on getting home
I am told the names of streets when they are nearby, and I get block number 
info like 1-33 or 36-59, and that's cool.
   One thing I'd definitely like to limit is hearing locations such 
as shops that are at quite a distance away from where I am, like as far away as 
a whole block but I'm not sure which setting it is. I think it did exist in the 
full App I once had on my phone, but I'm not sure about the newer On-Line App. 
It is an App you download so I'm not sure how the On-Line version differs from 
the older App.

Deidre
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 10:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking GPS Apps

Most GPS apps work fine with VoiceOver.
Google Maps is my go to GPS app.  There is a setting for more detailed walking 
directions for visually impaired.
Blind Square is a great app for orientation and can launch Apple Maps, Google 
Maps, and others to get turn by turn directions.
Good Maps Explore is the new version of the prior APH map that was paid to have 
maps stored locally.  It does both orientation and turn by turn directions, 
maps are stored in the cloud  It shows up as Explore on the iPhone..
Microsoft Soundscape is very popular, especially if you have bone conduction 
headphones since it speaks out of the side closest to the street/business, etc. 
 So you get real orientation.
Seeing Eye GPS is the Cadillac of GPS apps for the blind at $200.
Lazarillo is also an excellent, free, orientation app and can do its own 
walking directions, as well as launch other maps for turn by turn 
driving/riding directions.
MapQuest is good in the United States, but not as user friendly as the others.

But again, they all work fine with VoiceOver.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 

Zoom and iPhone question

[R Van Lant]

Hi,
I like to attend Zoom calls from my phone quite often. I just attended one this 
morning that was in webinar format where I could not unmute to ask a question 
of a panel.  They wanted us to use the Q feature. I can get to this area, but 
my question was long and I had hoped to dictate it, but dictate won't work 
while on the call.  Any work arounds you can think of this this?  On the fly, I 
tried to log into the call from my laptop to ask my question, but couldn't' get 
it loaded in time.  Next time,  I'll try to have a Bluetooth keyboard 
available, but just curious why dictate couldn't work and if there is anything 
you've done in this situation.

Robin with SE 2020 on IOS 14


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RE: Talking GPS Apps

[Richard Turner]

Good to know.
I only used it for a short time before the whole Covid lock down happened.
My wife drives us where we need to go and if she needs GPS help I use Google 
Maps.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Nimer 
Jaber
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 9:29 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Talking GPS Apps

Yes, but if you can still use Nearby Explorer, don't bother with GoodMaps. In 
fact, if you can use pretty much any other GPS app, don't bother with GoodMaps. 
Maybe one day, but not now. It is as worthless as worthless gets.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 9:27 AM Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
That is because good Maps Explore has taken its place.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Nimer 
Jaber
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 9:25 AM
To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Talking GPS Apps

Hello Deidre,

The setting you are looking for to control shops is the increase and decrease 
buttons at the top of the app. Also, you should know that the app is no longer 
being supported, and new users cannot download it any longer.

Thanks.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 9:16 AM 
mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have simplified my approach to making choices around the many offerings out 
there that offer me good accessibility. I do not need 3 different GPS or 
scanning Apps and if I find one that works well, and way better than Apps we 
all tested out over the last ten years, I stick to them. Long gone is KNFB 
Reader, Digitize, Seeing Eye, and Blind Square which I must not have tweaked 
easily enough to use with great ease. I haven't looked at it in years, so I'm 
not sure how it works now. I admire the techs and adaptive tech consultants on 
this list, and  their thoroughness in checking out the many different Apps is 
impressive, and I am grateful to have access to their body of knowledge and 
their willingness to share it.
I use Nearby Explorer On-Line. It's free and easy and very vocal. I don't know 
if you can mark a route but it will tell you when you change direction which I 
find essential at times I get turned around, or my dog takes me on a detour 
when we are on a recreational walk.
In my town, I know the streets throughout the entire city. I can tell which 
side of a street I am on based on even and odd number addresses, which is 
useful for when I've crossed a street unknowingly, like in my neighborhood 
where it's sometimes hard to tell where the corner is this time of year due to 
messy clumps of snow and low traffic flow. At night when temperatures plummet 
around here, I make sure I have my phone charged and in my pocket with cellular 
data and location tracking already turned on.  If my dog decides she wants a 
longer walk, and does not default to our usual turns, well, with not a soul to 
be found on the street, in a split second I can open Nearby Explorer and turn 
her around and insist on getting home
I am told the names of streets when they are nearby, and I get block number 
info like 1-33 or 36-59, and that's cool.
   One thing I'd definitely like to limit is hearing locations such 
as shops that are at quite a distance away from where I am, like as far away as 
a whole block but I'm not sure which setting it is. I think it did exist in the 
full App I once had on my phone, but I'm not sure about the newer On-Line App. 
It is an App you download so I'm not sure how the On-Line version differs from 
the older App.

Deidre
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 10:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking GPS Apps

Most GPS apps work fine with VoiceOver.
Google Maps is my go to GPS app.  There is a setting for more detailed walking 
directions for visually impaired.
Blind Square is a great app for orientation and can launch Apple Maps, Google 
Maps, and others to get turn by turn directions.
Good Maps Explore is the new version of the prior APH map that was paid to have 
maps stored locally.  It does both orientation and turn by turn directions, 
maps are stored in the cloud  It shows up as Explore on the iPhone..

Re: Talking GPS Apps

[Nimer Jaber]

Yes, but if you can still use Nearby Explorer, don't bother with GoodMaps.
In fact, if you can use pretty much any other GPS app, don't bother with
GoodMaps. Maybe one day, but not now. It is as worthless as worthless gets.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 9:27 AM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> That is because good Maps Explore has taken its place.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
>
>
>
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Nimer Jaber
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2021 9:25 AM
> *To:* Viphone 
> *Subject:* Re: Talking GPS Apps
>
>
>
> Hello Deidre,
>
>
>
> The setting you are looking for to control shops is the increase and
> decrease buttons at the top of the app. Also, you should know that the app
> is no longer being supported, and new users cannot download it any longer.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 9:16 AM  wrote:
>
> I have simplified my approach to making choices around the many offerings
> out there that offer me good accessibility. I do not need 3 different GPS
> or scanning Apps and if I find one that works well, and way better than
> Apps we all tested out over the last ten years, I stick to them. Long gone
> is KNFB Reader, Digitize, Seeing Eye, and Blind Square which I must not
> have tweaked easily enough to use with great ease. I haven't looked at it
> in years, so I'm not sure how it works now. I admire the techs and adaptive
> tech consultants on this list, and  their thoroughness in checking out the
> many different Apps is impressive, and I am grateful to have access to
> their body of knowledge and their willingness to share it.
>
> I use Nearby Explorer On-Line. It's free and easy and very vocal. I don't
> know if you can mark a route but it will tell you when you change direction
> which I find essential at times I get turned around, or my dog takes me on
> a detour when we are on a recreational walk.
>
> In my town, I know the streets throughout the entire city. I can tell
> which side of a street I am on based on even and odd number addresses,
> which is useful for when I've crossed a street unknowingly, like in my
> neighborhood where it's sometimes hard to tell where the corner is this
> time of year due to messy clumps of snow and low traffic flow. At night
> when temperatures plummet around here, I make sure I have my phone charged
> and in my pocket with cellular data and location tracking already turned
> on.  If my dog decides she wants a longer walk, and does not default to our
> usual turns, well, with not a soul to be found on the street, in a split
> second I can open Nearby Explorer and turn her around and insist on getting
> home
>
> I am told the names of streets when they are nearby, and I get block
> number info like 1-33 or 36-59, and that's cool.
>
>One thing I'd definitely like to limit is hearing locations
> such as shops that are at quite a distance away from where I am, like as
> far away as a whole block but I'm not sure which setting it is. I think it
> did exist in the full App I once had on my phone, but I'm not sure about
> the newer On-Line App. It is an App you download so I'm not sure how the
> On-Line version differs from the older App.
>
>
>
> *Deidre*
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Richard Turner
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2021 10:21 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Talking GPS Apps
>
>
>
> Most GPS apps work fine with VoiceOver.
>
> Google Maps is my go to GPS app.  There is a setting for more detailed
> walking directions for visually impaired.
>
> Blind Square is a great app for orientation and can launch Apple Maps,
> Google Maps, and others to get turn by turn directions.
>
> Good Maps Explore is the new version of the prior APH map that was paid to
> have maps stored locally.  It does both orientation and turn by turn
> directions, maps are stored in the cloud  It shows up as Explore on the
> iPhone..
>
> Microsoft Soundscape is very popular, especially if you have bone
> conduction headphones since it speaks out of the side closest to the
> street/business, etc.  So you get real orientation.
>
> Seeing Eye GPS is the Cadillac of GPS apps for the blind at $200.
>
> Lazarillo is also an excellent, free, orientation app and can do its own
> walking directions, as well as launch other maps for turn by turn
> driving/riding directions.
>
> MapQuest is good in the United States, but not as user friendly as the
> others.
>
>
>
> But again, they all work fine with VoiceOver.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
>
>
>
> My web site, www.turner42.com
> 

Re: Talking GPS Apps

[Nimer Jaber]

GoodMaps Explore sucks, and has a long, long, lng way to go before
it gets anywhere remotely close to offering what Nearby Explorer offers.
I'm sorry, but it's the truth. I wish this wasn't the case, but it is. And
before anyone asks, I have been in contact with their team and I have
provided feedback, plenty of it. Better stick to BlindSquare or
Soundscapes, as both of those work much better than the worthless GoodMaps
or, in my view, HorribleMaps.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 9:25 AM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> Diedra,
>
> You may want to check out Good Maps Explorer which is taking the place of
> Nearby Explorer.
>
> It will show up simply as Explorer on your phone.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
>
>
>
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *deidreandlou...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2021 9:16 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Talking GPS Apps
>
>
>
> I have simplified my approach to making choices around the many offerings
> out there that offer me good accessibility. I do not need 3 different GPS
> or scanning Apps and if I find one that works well, and way better than
> Apps we all tested out over the last ten years, I stick to them. Long gone
> is KNFB Reader, Digitize, Seeing Eye, and Blind Square which I must not
> have tweaked easily enough to use with great ease. I haven't looked at it
> in years, so I'm not sure how it works now. I admire the techs and adaptive
> tech consultants on this list, and  their thoroughness in checking out the
> many different Apps is impressive, and I am grateful to have access to
> their body of knowledge and their willingness to share it.
>
> I use Nearby Explorer On-Line. It's free and easy and very vocal. I don't
> know if you can mark a route but it will tell you when you change direction
> which I find essential at times I get turned around, or my dog takes me on
> a detour when we are on a recreational walk.
>
> In my town, I know the streets throughout the entire city. I can tell
> which side of a street I am on based on even and odd number addresses,
> which is useful for when I've crossed a street unknowingly, like in my
> neighborhood where it's sometimes hard to tell where the corner is this
> time of year due to messy clumps of snow and low traffic flow. At night
> when temperatures plummet around here, I make sure I have my phone charged
> and in my pocket with cellular data and location tracking already turned
> on.  If my dog decides she wants a longer walk, and does not default to our
> usual turns, well, with not a soul to be found on the street, in a split
> second I can open Nearby Explorer and turn her around and insist on getting
> home
>
> I am told the names of streets when they are nearby, and I get block
> number info like 1-33 or 36-59, and that's cool.
>
>One thing I'd definitely like to limit is hearing locations
> such as shops that are at quite a distance away from where I am, like as
> far away as a whole block but I'm not sure which setting it is. I think it
> did exist in the full App I once had on my phone, but I'm not sure about
> the newer On-Line App. It is an App you download so I'm not sure how the
> On-Line version differs from the older App.
>
>
>
> *Deidre*
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Richard Turner
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2021 10:21 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Talking GPS Apps
>
>
>
> Most GPS apps work fine with VoiceOver.
>
> Google Maps is my go to GPS app.  There is a setting for more detailed
> walking directions for visually impaired.
>
> Blind Square is a great app for orientation and can launch Apple Maps,
> Google Maps, and others to get turn by turn directions.
>
> Good Maps Explore is the new version of the prior APH map that was paid to
> have maps stored locally.  It does both orientation and turn by turn
> directions, maps are stored in the cloud  It shows up as Explore on the
> iPhone..
>
> Microsoft Soundscape is very popular, especially if you have bone
> conduction headphones since it speaks out of the side closest to the
> street/business, etc.  So you get real orientation.
>
> Seeing Eye GPS is the Cadillac of GPS apps for the blind at $200.
>
> Lazarillo is also an excellent, free, orientation app and can do its own
> walking directions, as well as launch other maps for turn by turn
> driving/riding directions.
>
> MapQuest is good in the United States, but not as user friendly as the
> others.
>
>
>
> But again, they all work fine with VoiceOver.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
>
>
>
> My web site, www.turner42.com
> 

RE: Talking GPS Apps

[Richard Turner]

That is because good Maps Explore has taken its place.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Nimer 
Jaber
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 9:25 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Talking GPS Apps

Hello Deidre,

The setting you are looking for to control shops is the increase and decrease 
buttons at the top of the app. Also, you should know that the app is no longer 
being supported, and new users cannot download it any longer.

Thanks.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 9:16 AM 
mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have simplified my approach to making choices around the many offerings out 
there that offer me good accessibility. I do not need 3 different GPS or 
scanning Apps and if I find one that works well, and way better than Apps we 
all tested out over the last ten years, I stick to them. Long gone is KNFB 
Reader, Digitize, Seeing Eye, and Blind Square which I must not have tweaked 
easily enough to use with great ease. I haven't looked at it in years, so I'm 
not sure how it works now. I admire the techs and adaptive tech consultants on 
this list, and  their thoroughness in checking out the many different Apps is 
impressive, and I am grateful to have access to their body of knowledge and 
their willingness to share it.
I use Nearby Explorer On-Line. It's free and easy and very vocal. I don't know 
if you can mark a route but it will tell you when you change direction which I 
find essential at times I get turned around, or my dog takes me on a detour 
when we are on a recreational walk.
In my town, I know the streets throughout the entire city. I can tell which 
side of a street I am on based on even and odd number addresses, which is 
useful for when I've crossed a street unknowingly, like in my neighborhood 
where it's sometimes hard to tell where the corner is this time of year due to 
messy clumps of snow and low traffic flow. At night when temperatures plummet 
around here, I make sure I have my phone charged and in my pocket with cellular 
data and location tracking already turned on.  If my dog decides she wants a 
longer walk, and does not default to our usual turns, well, with not a soul to 
be found on the street, in a split second I can open Nearby Explorer and turn 
her around and insist on getting home
I am told the names of streets when they are nearby, and I get block number 
info like 1-33 or 36-59, and that's cool.
   One thing I'd definitely like to limit is hearing locations such 
as shops that are at quite a distance away from where I am, like as far away as 
a whole block but I'm not sure which setting it is. I think it did exist in the 
full App I once had on my phone, but I'm not sure about the newer On-Line App. 
It is an App you download so I'm not sure how the On-Line version differs from 
the older App.

Deidre
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 10:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking GPS Apps

Most GPS apps work fine with VoiceOver.
Google Maps is my go to GPS app.  There is a setting for more detailed walking 
directions for visually impaired.
Blind Square is a great app for orientation and can launch Apple Maps, Google 
Maps, and others to get turn by turn directions.
Good Maps Explore is the new version of the prior APH map that was paid to have 
maps stored locally.  It does both orientation and turn by turn directions, 
maps are stored in the cloud  It shows up as Explore on the iPhone..
Microsoft Soundscape is very popular, especially if you have bone conduction 
headphones since it speaks out of the side closest to the street/business, etc. 
 So you get real orientation.
Seeing Eye GPS is the Cadillac of GPS apps for the blind at $200.
Lazarillo is also an excellent, free, orientation app and can do its own 
walking directions, as well as launch other maps for turn by turn 
driving/riding directions.
MapQuest is good in the United States, but not as user friendly as the others.

But again, they all work fine with VoiceOver.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: orbit-rea...@groups.io 
mailto:orbit-rea...@groups.io>> On Behalf Of Lehmann, 
Timothy A
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 4:54 AM
To: 

Re: Talking GPS Apps

[Nimer Jaber]

Hello Deidre,

The setting you are looking for to control shops is the increase and
decrease buttons at the top of the app. Also, you should know that the app
is no longer being supported, and new users cannot download it any longer.

Thanks.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 9:16 AM  wrote:

> I have simplified my approach to making choices around the many offerings
> out there that offer me good accessibility. I do not need 3 different GPS
> or scanning Apps and if I find one that works well, and way better than
> Apps we all tested out over the last ten years, I stick to them. Long gone
> is KNFB Reader, Digitize, Seeing Eye, and Blind Square which I must not
> have tweaked easily enough to use with great ease. I haven't looked at it
> in years, so I'm not sure how it works now. I admire the techs and adaptive
> tech consultants on this list, and  their thoroughness in checking out the
> many different Apps is impressive, and I am grateful to have access to
> their body of knowledge and their willingness to share it.
>
> I use Nearby Explorer On-Line. It's free and easy and very vocal. I don't
> know if you can mark a route but it will tell you when you change direction
> which I find essential at times I get turned around, or my dog takes me on
> a detour when we are on a recreational walk.
>
> In my town, I know the streets throughout the entire city. I can tell
> which side of a street I am on based on even and odd number addresses,
> which is useful for when I've crossed a street unknowingly, like in my
> neighborhood where it's sometimes hard to tell where the corner is this
> time of year due to messy clumps of snow and low traffic flow. At night
> when temperatures plummet around here, I make sure I have my phone charged
> and in my pocket with cellular data and location tracking already turned
> on.  If my dog decides she wants a longer walk, and does not default to our
> usual turns, well, with not a soul to be found on the street, in a split
> second I can open Nearby Explorer and turn her around and insist on getting
> home
>
> I am told the names of streets when they are nearby, and I get block
> number info like 1-33 or 36-59, and that's cool.
>
>One thing I'd definitely like to limit is hearing locations
> such as shops that are at quite a distance away from where I am, like as
> far away as a whole block but I'm not sure which setting it is. I think it
> did exist in the full App I once had on my phone, but I'm not sure about
> the newer On-Line App. It is an App you download so I'm not sure how the
> On-Line version differs from the older App.
>
>
>
> *Deidre*
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Richard Turner
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2021 10:21 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Talking GPS Apps
>
>
>
> Most GPS apps work fine with VoiceOver.
>
> Google Maps is my go to GPS app.  There is a setting for more detailed
> walking directions for visually impaired.
>
> Blind Square is a great app for orientation and can launch Apple Maps,
> Google Maps, and others to get turn by turn directions.
>
> Good Maps Explore is the new version of the prior APH map that was paid to
> have maps stored locally.  It does both orientation and turn by turn
> directions, maps are stored in the cloud  It shows up as Explore on the
> iPhone..
>
> Microsoft Soundscape is very popular, especially if you have bone
> conduction headphones since it speaks out of the side closest to the
> street/business, etc.  So you get real orientation.
>
> Seeing Eye GPS is the Cadillac of GPS apps for the blind at $200.
>
> Lazarillo is also an excellent, free, orientation app and can do its own
> walking directions, as well as launch other maps for turn by turn
> driving/riding directions.
>
> MapQuest is good in the United States, but not as user friendly as the
> others.
>
>
>
> But again, they all work fine with VoiceOver.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
>
>
>
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* orbit-rea...@groups.io  *On Behalf Of 
> *Lehmann,
> Timothy A
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2021 4:54 AM
> *To:* orbit-rea...@groups.io
> *Subject:* [orbit-reader] Talking GPS's
>
>
>
>
>
> Any suggestions for a talking GPS-App which can be downloaded to an
> iPhone? I am trying to find one that is fully accessible using Voice Over.
> Thanks and have a nice day!
>
>
>
> Tim Lehmann
>
> Access Specialist
>
> Student Affairs
>
> Missouri State University
>
> Meyer Library 111G
>
> 901 South National Avenue
>
> Springfield, Missouri 65897
>
> Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158
>
> mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu 
>
>
>
> *From:* orbit-rea...@groups.io  *On Behalf Of *Josh
> Kennedy via groups.io
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 10, 2021 4:34 PM
> *To:* orbit-rea...@groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [orbit-reader] Suggestion for Audio Features in Orbit

RE: Talking GPS Apps

[Richard Turner]

Diedra,
You may want to check out Good Maps Explorer which is taking the place of 
Nearby Explorer.
It will show up simply as Explorer on your phone.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking GPS Apps

I have simplified my approach to making choices around the many offerings out 
there that offer me good accessibility. I do not need 3 different GPS or 
scanning Apps and if I find one that works well, and way better than Apps we 
all tested out over the last ten years, I stick to them. Long gone is KNFB 
Reader, Digitize, Seeing Eye, and Blind Square which I must not have tweaked 
easily enough to use with great ease. I haven't looked at it in years, so I'm 
not sure how it works now. I admire the techs and adaptive tech consultants on 
this list, and  their thoroughness in checking out the many different Apps is 
impressive, and I am grateful to have access to their body of knowledge and 
their willingness to share it.
I use Nearby Explorer On-Line. It's free and easy and very vocal. I don't know 
if you can mark a route but it will tell you when you change direction which I 
find essential at times I get turned around, or my dog takes me on a detour 
when we are on a recreational walk.
In my town, I know the streets throughout the entire city. I can tell which 
side of a street I am on based on even and odd number addresses, which is 
useful for when I've crossed a street unknowingly, like in my neighborhood 
where it's sometimes hard to tell where the corner is this time of year due to 
messy clumps of snow and low traffic flow. At night when temperatures plummet 
around here, I make sure I have my phone charged and in my pocket with cellular 
data and location tracking already turned on.  If my dog decides she wants a 
longer walk, and does not default to our usual turns, well, with not a soul to 
be found on the street, in a split second I can open Nearby Explorer and turn 
her around and insist on getting home
I am told the names of streets when they are nearby, and I get block number 
info like 1-33 or 36-59, and that's cool.
   One thing I'd definitely like to limit is hearing locations such 
as shops that are at quite a distance away from where I am, like as far away as 
a whole block but I'm not sure which setting it is. I think it did exist in the 
full App I once had on my phone, but I'm not sure about the newer On-Line App. 
It is an App you download so I'm not sure how the On-Line version differs from 
the older App.

Deidre
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 10:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking GPS Apps

Most GPS apps work fine with VoiceOver.
Google Maps is my go to GPS app.  There is a setting for more detailed walking 
directions for visually impaired.
Blind Square is a great app for orientation and can launch Apple Maps, Google 
Maps, and others to get turn by turn directions.
Good Maps Explore is the new version of the prior APH map that was paid to have 
maps stored locally.  It does both orientation and turn by turn directions, 
maps are stored in the cloud  It shows up as Explore on the iPhone..
Microsoft Soundscape is very popular, especially if you have bone conduction 
headphones since it speaks out of the side closest to the street/business, etc. 
 So you get real orientation.
Seeing Eye GPS is the Cadillac of GPS apps for the blind at $200.
Lazarillo is also an excellent, free, orientation app and can do its own 
walking directions, as well as launch other maps for turn by turn 
driving/riding directions.
MapQuest is good in the United States, but not as user friendly as the others.

But again, they all work fine with VoiceOver.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: orbit-rea...@groups.io 
mailto:orbit-rea...@groups.io>> On Behalf Of Lehmann, 
Timothy A
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 4:54 AM
To: orbit-rea...@groups.io
Subject: [orbit-reader] Talking GPS's


Any suggestions for a talking GPS-App which can be downloaded to an iPhone? I 
am trying to find one that is fully 

RE: Talking GPS Apps

[deidreandlouise]

I have simplified my approach to making choices around the many offerings out 
there that offer me good accessibility. I do not need 3 different GPS or 
scanning Apps and if I find one that works well, and way better than Apps we 
all tested out over the last ten years, I stick to them. Long gone is KNFB 
Reader, Digitize, Seeing Eye, and Blind Square which I must not have tweaked 
easily enough to use with great ease. I haven't looked at it in years, so I'm 
not sure how it works now. I admire the techs and adaptive tech consultants on 
this list, and  their thoroughness in checking out the many different Apps is 
impressive, and I am grateful to have access to their body of knowledge and 
their willingness to share it.

I use Nearby Explorer On-Line. It's free and easy and very vocal. I don't know 
if you can mark a route but it will tell you when you change direction which I 
find essential at times I get turned around, or my dog takes me on a detour 
when we are on a recreational walk. 

In my town, I know the streets throughout the entire city. I can tell which 
side of a street I am on based on even and odd number addresses, which is 
useful for when I've crossed a street unknowingly, like in my neighborhood 
where it's sometimes hard to tell where the corner is this time of year due to 
messy clumps of snow and low traffic flow. At night when temperatures plummet 
around here, I make sure I have my phone charged and in my pocket with cellular 
data and location tracking already turned on.  If my dog decides she wants a 
longer walk, and does not default to our usual turns, well, with not a soul to 
be found on the street, in a split second I can open Nearby Explorer and turn 
her around and insist on getting home 

I am told the names of streets when they are nearby, and I get block number 
info like 1-33 or 36-59, and that's cool. 

   One thing I'd definitely like to limit is hearing locations such 
as shops that are at quite a distance away from where I am, like as far away as 
a whole block but I'm not sure which setting it is. I think it did exist in the 
full App I once had on my phone, but I'm not sure about the newer On-Line App. 
It is an App you download so I'm not sure how the On-Line version differs from 
the older App.

 

Deidre

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 10:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking GPS Apps

 

Most GPS apps work fine with VoiceOver.

Google Maps is my go to GPS app.  There is a setting for more detailed walking 
directions for visually impaired.

Blind Square is a great app for orientation and can launch Apple Maps, Google 
Maps, and others to get turn by turn directions.

Good Maps Explore is the new version of the prior APH map that was paid to have 
maps stored locally.  It does both orientation and turn by turn directions, 
maps are stored in the cloud  It shows up as Explore on the iPhone..

Microsoft Soundscape is very popular, especially if you have bone conduction 
headphones since it speaks out of the side closest to the street/business, etc. 
 So you get real orientation.

Seeing Eye GPS is the Cadillac of GPS apps for the blind at $200.

Lazarillo is also an excellent, free, orientation app and can do its own 
walking directions, as well as launch other maps for turn by turn 
driving/riding directions.

MapQuest is good in the United States, but not as user friendly as the others.

 

But again, they all work fine with VoiceOver.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com  

 

 

 

From: orbit-rea...@groups.io   
mailto:orbit-rea...@groups.io> > On Behalf Of Lehmann, 
Timothy A
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 4:54 AM
To: orbit-rea...@groups.io  
Subject: [orbit-reader] Talking GPS's

 

 

Any suggestions for a talking GPS-App which can be downloaded to an iPhone? I 
am trying to find one that is fully accessible using Voice Over. Thanks and 
have a nice day!

 

Tim Lehmann

Access Specialist

Student Affairs

Missouri State University

Meyer Library 111G

901 South National Avenue

Springfield, Missouri 65897

Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158

mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu

 

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mailto:orbit-rea...@groups.io> > On Behalf Of Josh 
Kennedy via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 4:34 PM
To: orbit-rea...@groups.io  
Subject: Re: [orbit-reader] Suggestion for Audio Features in Orbit Reader 40

 

CAUTION: External Sender

 

You can use dectalk with NVDA with an addon. It works real good on windows10.  

 

 

 

On Feb 10, 2021, at 16:53, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

The DeckTalk, and other hardware 

RE: Difference in Volume between Ring Tone and Text Tone

[Carolyn]

I have tweet for my texts, and have no problem telling the difference in it and 
any bird singing. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 9:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Difference in Volume between Ring Tone and Text Tone

Hi sandy,
 Sorr this question is not going to help you,

But if you have bird sounds as your tones, How will you know it's your phone if 
you are outside, Rather than it being birds in the trees?

I've always wondered how people deal with these tones,  Other than vibrations 
or haptic feedback, The tones of birds would confuse me.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sandy 
Finley
Sent: Thursday, 11 February 2021 2:19 pm
To: IPhone 
Subject: Difference in Volume between Ring Tone and Text Tone

I have had the same ring tone and text tone  sounds for a while so decided 
today to  change them. I selected the tones I  want, two bird songs I once 
purchased. Now  the one for texting is too soft. If I adjust the  volume so I 
can hear the text tones, the ringtone is much too loud. This is. The case 
regardless of whether I have the volume adjusted with or without the volume 
buttons  on the side of the phone. It seems to happen no matter which text tone 
I choose.

Is there a way to make the volume of one  independent from the volume for the 
other?  

Sandy Finley



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RE: Talking GPS Apps

[Larry Lumpkin]

I used Blindsquare for years and loved it except for its not being able to 
analyze intersections.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lehmann, 
Timothy A
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Talking GPS Apps


Any suggestions for talking GPS Apps, which can be instaled on an iPhone. I am 
looking for some that are completely compatible with Voice Over. Thanks and 
have a nice day!


Tim Lehmann
Access Specialist
Student Affairs
Missouri State University
Meyer Library 111G
901 South National Avenue
Springfield, Missouri 65897
Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158
mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu

-Original Message-
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Chaffin
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dropbox not working with mBraille and no response from tech support

CAUTION: External Sender


Exactly what happens when you try to use the dot Open command, which normally 
pops up the screen with the files from your Dropbox MBraille folder?

I have had different issues over the years with MBraille and Dropbox working 
together. I can say that everything is working fine for me running ios 14.4.

Other than deleting and reinstalling your apps, you can also try this, which 
solved my issue last time.

1, Make a backup of all of the files in your MBraille folder in Dropbox, moving 
them to a different location within Dropbox.
2, Delete the MBraille folder from Dropbox.
3, Within the MBraille app, turn off syncing with Dropbox, then clear it from 
your app switcher.
4, Start the MBraille app and turn back on syncing with Dropbox. MBraille 
should automatically create a new MBraille folder in Dropbox.
5, TYPE something in MBraille and save it so it will be saved to the MBraille 
folder in Dropbox. This is just testing to see if it works.
6, If the save is successful, then use the dot open command to see if you can 
open the file you just saved.
7, If both is successful, then you should be all set, so you can then copy and 
paste all of the files you use to have in the MBraille folder to the new one 
just created.

Hopefully this is helpful and will work!

Chris


> On Feb 11, 2021, at 6:53 AM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Anyone knows what happened to mBraille support?
> I sent messages to the feedback list and never got them or any replies. I did 
> check the spam.
>
> I also went to their contact form online and sent a message. But the page 
> never gave a confirmation that it was received  nor did I hear back from 
> them... Very sad to see this app flag like this.
>
> My dropbox support stopped working. I uninstalled app and reinstalled with no 
> luck. I also turned off and back on the db setting in the mBraille app.
> So now I have no aliases, no syncing of documents and no way to reach out to 
> developer...
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ioana
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Talking GPS Apps

[Richard Turner]

Most GPS apps work fine with VoiceOver.
Google Maps is my go to GPS app.  There is a setting for more detailed walking 
directions for visually impaired.
Blind Square is a great app for orientation and can launch Apple Maps, Google 
Maps, and others to get turn by turn directions.
Good Maps Explore is the new version of the prior APH map that was paid to have 
maps stored locally.  It does both orientation and turn by turn directions, 
maps are stored in the cloud  It shows up as Explore on the iPhone..
Microsoft Soundscape is very popular, especially if you have bone conduction 
headphones since it speaks out of the side closest to the street/business, etc. 
 So you get real orientation.
Seeing Eye GPS is the Cadillac of GPS apps for the blind at $200.
Lazarillo is also an excellent, free, orientation app and can do its own 
walking directions, as well as launch other maps for turn by turn 
driving/riding directions.
MapQuest is good in the United States, but not as user friendly as the others.

But again, they all work fine with VoiceOver.



Richard

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realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



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mailto:orbit-rea...@groups.io>> On Behalf Of Lehmann, 
Timothy A
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 4:54 AM
To: orbit-rea...@groups.io
Subject: [orbit-reader] Talking GPS's


Any suggestions for a talking GPS-App which can be downloaded to an iPhone? I 
am trying to find one that is fully accessible using Voice Over. Thanks and 
have a nice day!

Tim Lehmann
Access Specialist
Student Affairs
Missouri State University
Meyer Library 111G
901 South National Avenue
Springfield, Missouri 65897
Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158
mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu

From: orbit-rea...@groups.io 
mailto:orbit-rea...@groups.io>> On Behalf Of Josh 
Kennedy via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 4:34 PM
To: orbit-rea...@groups.io
Subject: Re: [orbit-reader] Suggestion for Audio Features in Orbit Reader 40

CAUTION: External Sender

You can use dectalk with NVDA with an addon. It works real good on windows10.



On Feb 10, 2021, at 16:53, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

The DeckTalk, and other hardware sythesizers that have been used with screen 
readers were not necessarily designed for the blind. They were also used for 
entertainment purposes and for early audimated phone systems.
Some of those voices are truly only for the novelty.
And the DeckTalk's ability to sing was a bit over the edge on silly, but very 
entertaining.
Especially when someone programmed it to sing Poisoning Pigeons in the Park by 
Tom Lehrer.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Feb 10, 2021, at 1:41 PM, Christina V. 
mailto:bluebonnet1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
DecTalk is excellent!

I know it was used in all sorts of devices, BookPort original, the
Newsline, etc. I first encountered it in the Reading Edge, and I
really want to know, who's using Whispering Wendy? Haha Why include
all these odd voices, i can't imagine anyone liking a few of those?
But this is off topic now.

Christina V.

On 2/10/21, Pamela Dominguez 
mailto:pammygir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Maybe more punctuation is needed, but since I’m not the one who wrote what
I’m reading, I can’t do anything about it. I use dec talk. Pam.

From: Christina V.
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 4:32 PM
To: orbit-rea...@groups.io
Subject: Re: [orbit-reader] Suggestion for Audio Features in Orbit Reader
40

Eloquence is more responsive than any other tts, I can read more
quickly with it. And it's sound is even, compared to other voices.

But I did laugh at the descriptions, above! If his pitch is getting
that low in a single sentence, more punctuation is needed.

eSpeak is fine, too, and my Iphone uses Fred. I've just stopped
reading with anything else but Fred or Eloquence, so no more listening
to recorded audio books, because of speed and the need to keep
adjusting the volume!

Christina V.

On 2/10/21, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:

Eloquence is now and always has been my engine of choice for getting work
done.





From: orbit-rea...@groups.io 
mailto:orbit-rea...@groups.io>> On Behalf Of
Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 10:44 AM
To: orbit-rea...@groups.io
Subject: Re: [orbit-reader] Suggestion for Audio Features in Orbit 

Talking GPS Apps

[Lehmann, Timothy A]

Any suggestions for talking GPS Apps, which can be instaled on an iPhone. I am 
looking for some that are completely compatible with Voice Over. Thanks and 
have a nice day!


Tim Lehmann
Access Specialist
Student Affairs
Missouri State University
Meyer Library 111G
901 South National Avenue
Springfield, Missouri 65897
Office 417-836-4248   Fax 417-836-3158
mailto:timlehm...@missouristate.edu

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dropbox not working with mBraille and no response from tech support

CAUTION: External Sender


Exactly what happens when you try to use the dot Open command, which normally 
pops up the screen with the files from your Dropbox MBraille folder?

I have had different issues over the years with MBraille and Dropbox working 
together. I can say that everything is working fine for me running ios 14.4.

Other than deleting and reinstalling your apps, you can also try this, which 
solved my issue last time.

1, Make a backup of all of the files in your MBraille folder in Dropbox, moving 
them to a different location within Dropbox.
2, Delete the MBraille folder from Dropbox.
3, Within the MBraille app, turn off syncing with Dropbox, then clear it from 
your app switcher.
4, Start the MBraille app and turn back on syncing with Dropbox. MBraille 
should automatically create a new MBraille folder in Dropbox.
5, TYPE something in MBraille and save it so it will be saved to the MBraille 
folder in Dropbox. This is just testing to see if it works.
6, If the save is successful, then use the dot open command to see if you can 
open the file you just saved.
7, If both is successful, then you should be all set, so you can then copy and 
paste all of the files you use to have in the MBraille folder to the new one 
just created.

Hopefully this is helpful and will work!

Chris


> On Feb 11, 2021, at 6:53 AM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Anyone knows what happened to mBraille support?
> I sent messages to the feedback list and never got them or any replies. I did 
> check the spam.
>
> I also went to their contact form online and sent a message. But the page 
> never gave a confirmation that it was received  nor did I hear back from 
> them... Very sad to see this app flag like this.
>
> My dropbox support stopped working. I uninstalled app and reinstalled with no 
> luck. I also turned off and back on the db setting in the mBraille app.
> So now I have no aliases, no syncing of documents and no way to reach out to 
> developer...
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ioana
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Dropbox not working with mBraille and no response from tech support

[Chris Chaffin]

Exactly what happens when you try to use the dot Open command, which normally 
pops up the screen with the files from your Dropbox MBraille folder?

I have had different issues over the years with MBraille and Dropbox working 
together. I can say that everything is working fine for me running ios 14.4.

Other than deleting and reinstalling your apps, you can also try this, which 
solved my issue last time.

1, Make a backup of all of the files in your MBraille folder in Dropbox, moving 
them to a different location within Dropbox.
2, Delete the MBraille folder from Dropbox.
3, Within the MBraille app, turn off syncing with Dropbox, then clear it from 
your app switcher.
4, Start the MBraille app and turn back on syncing with Dropbox. MBraille 
should automatically create a new MBraille folder in Dropbox.
5, TYPE something in MBraille and save it so it will be saved to the MBraille 
folder in Dropbox. This is just testing to see if it works.
6, If the save is successful, then use the dot open command to see if you can 
open the file you just saved.
7, If both is successful, then you should be all set, so you can then copy and 
paste all of the files you use to have in the MBraille folder to the new one 
just created.

Hopefully this is helpful and will work!

Chris


> On Feb 11, 2021, at 6:53 AM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> Anyone knows what happened to mBraille support? 
> I sent messages to the feedback list and never got them or any replies. I did 
> check the spam. 
> 
> I also went to their contact form online and sent a message. But the page 
> never gave a confirmation that it was received  nor did I hear back from 
> them... Very sad to see this app flag like this. 
> 
> My dropbox support stopped working. I uninstalled app and reinstalled with no 
> luck. I also turned off and back on the db setting in the mBraille app. 
> So now I have no aliases, no syncing of documents and no way to reach out to 
> developer... 
> Any ideas? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Ioana
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Dropbox not working with mBraille and no response from tech support

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Hi all, 

Anyone knows what happened to mBraille support? 
I sent messages to the feedback list and never got them or any replies. I did 
check the spam. 

I also went to their contact form online and sent a message. But the page never 
gave a confirmation that it was received  nor did I hear back from them... Very 
sad to see this app flag like this. 

My dropbox support stopped working. I uninstalled app and reinstalled with no 
luck. I also turned off and back on the db setting in the mBraille app. 
So now I have no aliases, no syncing of documents and no way to reach out to 
developer... 
Any ideas? 

Thanks, 

Ioana


Sent from my iPhone

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