RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Here part of an article on 9to5Mac:

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: September 16, 2021 5:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Is it covid 19
I thought it was toward  aids research.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 7:25 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

All due respect to fashion, but if you get a red phone, you are now 
contributing 10% of the purchase price to fighting the global Covid-19 
pandemic. That was why I got a red iPhone 11 last year.

Kindly,
Wayne Merritt

On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Oh yes, to my delight, I read the sky blue - F I N E!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 12:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Carolyn,
> IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue is 
> a light Sky Blue...
>
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>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> I was hoping the blue was sky blue.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Simon,
> You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
> My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their 
> colors, she says, are in the pastel hews.
> It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.
>
> The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
> They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue.
> Interesting they don't make up a name for the regular blue...
>
>
>
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>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> What is  the sierra blue?
>
> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of 
> colours but it's not one I've heard of before.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
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>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 

RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[lists]

Hi Mark and all, 
As mentioned to another list member on here directly after the event, I'll be 
staying put this year and watching to see what happens with iPhone 14 and 
beyond. 
It's very disappointing that there is no finger print reader once again. I love 
using this feature on my Google phone. 
I'm also more than delighted to keep my series  6 watch for as long as Watch OS 
will be available in terms of updates. 
The mini looks nice, but having only received my 5th gen device last year, It's 
not required to spend so soon specially as it's working well and most likely 
shall run 15 plus 16. My plan is just to wait for a while. 
I'm more interested in settling into my new Quality Engineering role, Further 
study at my University, As well as intensive O & M as I've moved into a new 
exclusive private home after living in my current location for the last 23 
years. 
Cheers guys for all the comments on the new hardware and banter.   
  
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 4:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

Hello Everyone,

I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.

To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not have any 
kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the season.

So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a new battery 
installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one more year (smile).

Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish the idea 
of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part of its name (smile).  
It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install iOS 13!!!
(big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). 

Mark


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Re: A Question About Apple Fitness Plus for VoiceOver Users

[CHELA Robles]

Hey Mark Taylor, it’s very interesting you bring up this topic because I just 
tried it out not too long ago in fact I think I tried it out on Monday and I 
quickly gave up because there weren’t any audio descriptions during the video 
as to how to do certain things that’s why I chose to do the walking workouts 
since all I had to do was walk even though I really wanted to do the body core 
workouts those were not really described unfortunately there’s some really good 
cardio ones but again you run the risk of them not being described as far as 
the movements go. The walking ones are easier for me since all I have to do is 
walk or run for a certain amount of minutes. Sorry I can’t be very helpful. I 
only just recently started using Apple fitness plus whatever it’s called since 
I already have an Apple one subscription that has four services in one.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2021, at 5:00 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,  
> 
> Question:  does anyone use or has anyone used Apple Fitness Plus?  If so,
> how was / is your experience?  
> 
> So much of the content is video-based, at least, that is how it appears in
> all of the Apple Keynote Presentations.  
> 
> I know that they mentioned something about adding more audio-based content
> to the service but just wanted to get some feedback here in the forum.
> 
> I look forward to your replies,
> 
> Mark
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Re: Updated "7 Little Words" problems

[Donna Casteen]

Debbie, if you have an iPhone XR or newer check to make sure that screen 
recognition is off. I have an iPhone 11 with screen recognition turned off & 
I'm not having any problems playing the game.

Donna

> 
> 
> Hello,
>  
> Some of my friends and I have updated the puzzle game “7 Little Words” to 
> version 7.0.11 with not very good results. We have tried it on iPhone 8s, 
> iPhone 12s and iPhone SE 2020s. When you first load it, it asks if you want 
> to do text-to-speech. You need to use it because if  you tell it no, you will 
> have no speech including nothing coming from Voiceover.
>  
> More sounds have been added to the game, and with each swipe around the 
> screen you hear clicks. In setting there is a checkbox to turn the clicks 
> off, but I unchecked the clicks and it didn’t work. A friend of mine likes 
> all of the clicking, but it is kind of annoying to me.
>  
> Also for me double tapping doesn’t always work. I sometimes have to 
> repeatedly double tap to go anywhere.
>  
> There are other issues, but before I write to the developer, can anyone tell 
> me technically what in the world the developer did to the game? I am not sure 
> how to explain it to them.
>  
> Thanks for your help!
>  
> Take care and stay safe!
>  
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Re: What is Vertical Navigation

[Dan Yates]

Thanks Richard, I will check it out
Dan

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2021, at 9:02 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> If you are on the first row of your home screen, on the second icon.  If you 
> turn the rotor to vertical navigation and flick down, you will land on the 
> second icon in each row.  You are going straight down the column.
> It works anywhere you have columns.
> HTH,
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
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> Saw this as an option for rotor and wondered what it was.
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RE: What is Vertical Navigation

[Richard Turner]

If you are on the first row of your home screen, on the second icon.  If you 
turn the rotor to vertical navigation and flick down, you will land on the 
second icon in each row.  You are going straight down the column.
It works anywhere you have columns.
HTH,



Richard
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Saw this as an option for rotor and wondered what it was.
Dan
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RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[Richard Turner]

Simon,
I know what Yoda said.  I was taking a bit of liberty with the original; but I 
guess that must not have been clear.
I suppose the word "paraphrase was the wrong word to describe my "spin-off" 
from Yoda's original quote.

O well.



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 5:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

Richard,

Yoda said,
Do or do not,
There is no try!

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 3:40 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

Angie,
That is at least two of us on this list who were born on a Friday the 13th.  
Great day to have been born!

All this nonsense about avoiding the number 13 is just that.

Rather than being extra careful on the 13th, people would be wise to be careful 
in general, .

Whether one buys a new iPhone or not is such an individual choice, I certainly 
would never say someone "should" or "should not" buy a new phone.  When I 
worked in the counseling field, my favorite phrase with people was to encourage 
them to "stop should'ing all over themselves as well as others."  
To paraphrase  what Yoda says, "Do or do not...there is no should."

 
Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny chocolate 
brown phone would be fine. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Angie Nutt
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is 
official or a rumour.

As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it does 
depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs.

All the best
Angie

> On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty early 
> on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just think that 
> particular phone could always be dealing with battery life issues since it's 
> so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put on it.
> 
> On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote:
>> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. 
>> Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that 
>> as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out 
>> another mini so soon.
>> 
>> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; 
>> also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc.
>> 
>> All the best
>> Angie
>> 
>> 
>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.
>>> 
>>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not 
>>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the 
>>> season.
>>> 
>>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a 
>>> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one 
>>> more year (smile).
>>> 
>>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish 
>>> the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part 
>>> of its name (smile).  It took all of my courage, back in the day, to 
>>> install iOS 13!!!
>>> (big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin).
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
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RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[Simon A Fogarty]

I'm changing a word in this line.

You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shity chocolate 
brown phone would be fine.

I only changed a letter!
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 3:30 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny chocolate 
brown phone would be fine. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Angie Nutt
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is 
official or a rumour.

As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it does 
depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs.

All the best
Angie

> On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty early 
> on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just think that 
> particular phone could always be dealing with battery life issues since it's 
> so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put on it.
> 
> On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote:
>> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. 
>> Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that 
>> as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out 
>> another mini so soon.
>> 
>> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; 
>> also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc.
>> 
>> All the best
>> Angie
>> 
>> 
>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.
>>> 
>>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not 
>>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the 
>>> season.
>>> 
>>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a 
>>> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one 
>>> more year (smile).
>>> 
>>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish 
>>> the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part 
>>> of its name (smile).  It took all of my courage, back in the day, to 
>>> install iOS 13!!!
>>> (big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin).
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
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RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[Simon A Fogarty]

Ah but Sieghard

What green is apple green?

And some apples are red,
Or a mixture,
But yes browns,

Or karkey or kakk

I’m sure as you state there could be interesting names in the brown range!


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 3:34 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective


Hmm, and other descriptive terms could also be applied to the colour brown, 
maybe Apple could start a contest to see who comes up with the best term 藍

And then why has there never been an iPhone in colour Apple Green?



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: September 16, 2021 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective



You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny chocolate 
brown phone would be fine.



-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angie Nutt

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective



I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is 
official or a rumour.



As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it does 
depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs.



All the best

Angie



> On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon 
> mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com>> wrote:

>

> I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty early 
> on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just think that 
> particular phone could always be dealing with battery life issues since it's 
> so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put on it.

>

> On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote:

>> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. 
>> Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that 
>> as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out 
>> another mini so soon.

>>

>> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; 
>> also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc.

>>

>> All the best

>> Angie

>>

>>

>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
>>> wrote:

>>>

>>> Hello Everyone,

>>>

>>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.

>>>

>>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not

>>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the 
>>> season.

>>>

>>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a

>>> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one

>>> more year (smile).

>>>

>>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish

>>> the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part

>>> of its name (smile).  It took all of my courage, back in the day, to 
>>> install iOS 13!!!

>>> (big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin).

>>>

>>> Mark

>>>

>>>

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RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[Simon A Fogarty]

Richard,

Yoda said,
Do or do not,
There is no try!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 3:40 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

Angie,
That is at least two of us on this list who were born on a Friday the 13th.  
Great day to have been born!

All this nonsense about avoiding the number 13 is just that.

Rather than being extra careful on the 13th, people would be wise to be careful 
in general, .

Whether one buys a new iPhone or not is such an individual choice, I certainly 
would never say someone "should" or "should not" buy a new phone.  When I 
worked in the counseling field, my favorite phrase with people was to encourage 
them to "stop should'ing all over themselves as well as others."  
To paraphrase  what Yoda says, "Do or do not...there is no should."

 
Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny chocolate 
brown phone would be fine. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Angie Nutt
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is 
official or a rumour.

As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it does 
depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs.

All the best
Angie

> On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty early 
> on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just think that 
> particular phone could always be dealing with battery life issues since it's 
> so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put on it.
> 
> On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote:
>> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. 
>> Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that 
>> as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out 
>> another mini so soon.
>> 
>> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; 
>> also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc.
>> 
>> All the best
>> Angie
>> 
>> 
>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.
>>> 
>>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not 
>>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the 
>>> season.
>>> 
>>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a 
>>> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one 
>>> more year (smile).
>>> 
>>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish 
>>> the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part 
>>> of its name (smile).  It took all of my courage, back in the day, to 
>>> install iOS 13!!!
>>> (big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin).
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Simon A Fogarty]

Kelly,

I hope the new phones don't sound like ahrleys 

That would be off putting some what.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 4:09 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

The blue for the regular iPhone and the mini paired with a black leather case 
reminds me of rugged men on motorcycles wearing black leather jackets and blue 
jeans.  It will be either a blue or Midnight for me. My iPhone 7 is black and I 
am a Nia list so black goes with my personality.

Kelly




On 9/16/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Carolyn,
> IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue is 
> a light Sky Blue...
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> I was hoping the blue was sky blue.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Simon,
> You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
> My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their 
> colors, she says, are in the pastel hews.
> It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.
>
> The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
> They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue.
> Interesting they don't make up a name for the regular blue...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> What is  the sierra blue?
>
> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of 
> colours but it's not one I've heard of before.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%
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> hhK3JWQGjX4%3Dreserved=0
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall 
>>> to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and 
>>> then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully 
>>> next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping 

RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[Simon A Fogarty]

Interesting article I read this morning on mac rumours,

The iPad mini new has the a15 bionic chip,

But they are saying its been clocked down to make it slower than the a15 bionic 
in the phones.

Kind of a low move I think in the tablet if they have actually done that.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
Nalda
Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 6:06 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

Too bad about the mini, I love my mini V!  Oh it’s so perfect I don’t know how 
much they could improve, safe for camera maybe and processor.

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda

> On Sep 16, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> the rumor for the end of the Mini is extremely strong. Apple confirms 
> almost nothing. Apple is planning a big upgrade to the camera system 
> for the 14, increasing to 48 megapixels from the current 12.  They do 
> not want to put resources trying to figure out how to cram this into a 
> phone that is just five percent of their 12 lineup. If folks want a 
> mini, like I do, run and get the deals this fall for the 13 mini. The 
> deals will go away in spring 2022.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> LOL, Seigard.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:34 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
>> 
>> Hmm, and other descriptive terms could also be applied to the colour 
>> brown, maybe Apple could start a contest to see who comes up with the 
>> best term 藍
>> 
>> And then why has there never been an iPhone in colour Apple Green?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
>> Behalf Of Carolyn
>> Sent: September 16, 2021 8:30 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny 
>> chocolate brown phone would be fine.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angie Nutt
>> 
>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM
>> 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if 
>> this is official or a rumour.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of 
>> course it does depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All the best
>> 
>> Angie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon >>  > wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini 
>>> pretty early on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does 
>>> better. I just think that particular phone could always be dealing 
>>> with battery life issues since it's so small and trying to handle 
>>> the daily demand users put on it.
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote:
>> 
 I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some 
 reason. Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini 
 came out I got that as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I 
 had no idea they’d bring out another mini so soon.
>> 
 
>> 
 I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on 
 Friday 13th; also superstition and the like fascinates me. The 
 weird, supernatural etc.
>> 
 
>> 
 All the best
>> 
 Angie
>> 
 
>> 
 
>> 
> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor   > wrote:
>> 
> 
>> 
> Hello Everyone,
>> 
> 
>> 
> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.
>> 
> 
>> 
> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do 
> not
>> 
> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement 
> of the season.
>> 
> 
>> 
> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a
>> 
> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for 
> one
>> 
> more year (smile).
>> 
> 
>> 
> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not 
> relish
>> 
> the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part
>> 
> of its name (smile).  It took all of my courage, back in the day, 
> to install iOS 13!!!
>> 
> (big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin).
>> 
> 

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Simon A Fogarty]

Is it covid 19 
I thought it was toward  aids research.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 7:25 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

All due respect to fashion, but if you get a red phone, you are now 
contributing 10% of the purchase price to fighting the global Covid-19 
pandemic. That was why I got a red iPhone 11 last year.

Kindly,
Wayne Merritt

On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Oh yes, to my delight, I read the sky blue - F I N E!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 12:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Carolyn,
> IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue is 
> a light Sky Blue...
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> I was hoping the blue was sky blue.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Simon,
> You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
> My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their 
> colors, she says, are in the pastel hews.
> It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.
>
> The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
> They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue.
> Interesting they don't make up a name for the regular blue...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%
> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710074857%7CUnkn
> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tnbW40wFXBOusq9GMHbCA1K2zCJyUl4yi0Jz1q
> uf4%2BI%3Dreserved=0
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> What is  the sierra blue?
>
> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of 
> colours but it's not one I've heard of before.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%
> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710084814%7CUnkn
> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tno%2BTEYJ8H7lq3iMuJd84Ay2pao%2B%2FSMU
> hhK3JWQGjX4%3Dreserved=0
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall 
>>> to update. I used to be one of those update 

RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Carolyn,

Yeah I'm think ing the same thing,
And have pretty much decided to wait until next year to replace my 11 pro max.

It's still in great working condition 

But it's the watch I'm currently waiting for as my s4 is slowly dying with it's 
battery only lasting up to 12 hours per day,

Minus if I'm working out.

So the 7 might be a good upgrade 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 7:38 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

They will go away in spring 2022? My problem is between a 13 mini and a 14, if 
a 14 might have fingerprint ID. Of course, I'm living without fingerprint, but 
this is way sooner than I wanted to replace my 11 that I bought in January of 
2020. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

the rumor for the end of the Mini is extremely strong. Apple confirms almost 
nothing. Apple is planning a big upgrade to the camera system for the 14, 
increasing to 48 megapixels from the current 12.  They do not want to put 
resources trying to figure out how to cram this into a phone that is just five 
percent of their 12 lineup. If folks want a mini, like I do, run and get the 
deals this fall for the 13 mini. The deals will go away in spring 2022.

Kelly



On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> LOL, Seigard.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
>
> Hmm, and other descriptive terms could also be applied to the colour 
> brown, maybe Apple could start a contest to see who comes up with the 
> best term 藍
>
> And then why has there never been an iPhone in colour Apple Green?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Carolyn
> Sent: September 16, 2021 8:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
>
>
>
> You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny 
> chocolate brown phone would be fine.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angie Nutt
>
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>
> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
>
>
>
> I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if 
> this is official or a rumour.
>
>
>
> As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course 
> it does depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs.
>
>
>
> All the best
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon >  > wrote:
>
>>
>
>> I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini 
>> pretty early on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does 
>> better. I just think that particular phone could always be dealing 
>> with battery life issues since it's so small and trying to handle the 
>> daily demand users put on it.
>
>>
>
>> On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote:
>
>>> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some 
>>> reason. Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini 
>>> came out I got that as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I 
>>> had no idea they’d bring out another mini so soon.
>
>>>
>
>>> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on 
>>> Friday 13th; also superstition and the like fascinates me. The 
>>> weird, supernatural etc.
>
>>>
>
>>> All the best
>
>>> Angie
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
 On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor >>>  > wrote:
>

>
 Hello Everyone,
>

>
 I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.
>

>
 To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do 
 not
>
 have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of 
 the season.
>

>
 So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a
>
 new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for 
 one
>
 more year (smile).
>

>
 Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not 
 relish
>
 the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part
>
 of its name (smile).  It took all of my courage, back in the day, 
 to install iOS 13!!!
>
 (big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful 

A Question About Apple Fitness Plus for VoiceOver Users

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,  

Question:  does anyone use or has anyone used Apple Fitness Plus?  If so,
how was / is your experience?  

So much of the content is video-based, at least, that is how it appears in
all of the Apple Keynote Presentations.  

I know that they mentioned something about adding more audio-based content
to the service but just wanted to get some feedback here in the forum.

I look forward to your replies,

Mark


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What is Vertical Navigation

[danneyyates]

Saw this as an option for rotor and wondered what it was.

Dan

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RE: iPhone list

[Simon A Fogarty]

So did you send this using a Bluetooth keyboard?

Try turning the bt keyboard off and your phones keyboard should come back.

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Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 9:58 am
To: Listserv Viphone 
Subject: iPhone list

I have lost my keyboard on my iPhone 12. What setting do I have to turn back on 
to get my typing back

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RE: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

[Alan Lemly]

If QuickPath was the original buzz term Apple chose for Slide to type, I notice 
that the more descriptive Slide to type is what appears in the settings for 
this feature.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

 

It is actually called "QuickPath" and you use it by finding the first letter of 
the word you want to type and holding down your finger for a couple of seconds, 
when you hear a little sound it is active and you then very quickly slide your 
finger to the other letters in the word you want to type or even close to their 
position on the keyboard. At some point if you are doing it correctly you hear 
Voiceover say the word you want, this could be after just a few letters or 
sometimes more and if you hear the word spoken you can lift your finger and the 
word will be inserted. You then find the first letter of the next word you want 
and start over. If you practice a lot and have good spatial awareness of where 
the letters are on the onscreen keyboard you can type quite quickly this way.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: September 16, 2021 8:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

 

  Hat is slide to type? 

 

From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

 

I will have to try this out. It sounds pretty awesome to me. 

 

On Sep 15, 2021, at 15:46, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi LeDon,

 

I might have to revisit the slide to type setting. When I tried it with iOS 14, 
I wasn't impressed but I was comparing it to FlickType which I will no longer 
have at some point.

 

I'll play around with the slide to type setting a bit later and report back 
with my results.

 

Alan Lemly  

 

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
LeDon Becker mailto:vanike...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 1:40:39 PM
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Subject: Re: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

 

Does IOS 15 slide to type do the job?

 

Get Outlook for iOS  


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Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:07:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

 

Hi List,

 

I’m looking for an alternative to FlickType for when I have to upgrade my 
iPhone SE 2020 or upgrade to iOS 15 and no longer have a working FlickType app. 
Can anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard comment on its accessibility and 
what on screen typing is like using it with Voiceover? I don’t use a Bluetooth 
keyboard and much prefer on screen typing with my iPhone especially when I’m 
away from home and I’m starting to research other alternatives for when 
FlickType is no longer on my device.

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Re: iPhone list

[Gerardo Corripio]

Firstly make sure that no bluetooth keyboard or Braille display is connected to 
the Phone. IF yes, at least with a Bluetooth keyboard, press Contffol+Option to 
goggle the virtual keyboard off/on. If no bbbuetooth devices are connected, 
restart the iPhone. Good luck!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 16 sep 2021, a la(s) 4:57 p.m., 'Dulce Weisenborn' via VIPhone 
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I have lost my keyboard on my iPhone 12. What setting do I have to turn back on 
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Re: HomePod problem

[Mary Otten]

Thanks, Ed. I didn’t have to do anything with my router. I did a whole lot of 
Google searching, and finally went into the app for my router and found out 
that my HomePods were not online, even though they should be on the same 
network as my iPhone. I ended up having to unpaired the speakers and restart 
them. I guess all is well that ends well. This is the first time that has 
happened to me with the HomePods and hopefully the last.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2021, at 6:56 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> 
> Hey Mary,
> 
> I have had this issue as well. I actually had to go as far as restarting my 
> wireless router for anything to help.
> 
> I can proudly say I’ve only had this issue once. I guess it was luck, maybe…
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2021, at 9:33 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I have a stereo pair of HomePods which was working just fine yesterday. This 
>> evening, I went to watch my Apple TV through the HomePods, and they are not 
>> responding at all. Siri doesn’t respond. Touching the top of the homePod 
>> eels no sound, and in the home app, I am informed on helpfully that this 
>> device is not responding. No kidding. This device requires attention. But 
>> they don’t give me any hint as to what kind of attention or how I might find 
>> out. I unplug them and re-plugged them, and I got the sound that indicates 
>> that they came back on. But they do not work at all, and I can’t find 
>> anything useful from Apple support site. Does anybody have any idea what 
>> kind of attention the device might require aside from a sledgehammer?
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

[Matthew Janusauskas]

I’ve also had fairly good results with the QuickPath keyboard feature. As with 
most things it deftly requires some practice and getting used to, but it is 
completely compatible with VoiceOver. The initial required delay after the tap 
and hold to begin QuickPath input can also be adjusted in settings. 


> On Sep 16, 2021, at 10:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> It is actually called "QuickPath" and you use it by finding the first letter 
> of the word you want to type and holding down your finger for a couple of 
> seconds, when you hear a little sound it is active and you then very quickly 
> slide your finger to the other letters in the word you want to type or even 
> close to their position on the keyboard. At some point if you are doing it 
> correctly you hear Voiceover say the word you want, this could be after just 
> a few letters or sometimes more and if you hear the word spoken you can lift 
> your finger and the word will be inserted. You then find the first letter of 
> the next word you want and start over. If you practice a lot and have good 
> spatial awareness of where the letters are on the onscreen keyboard you can 
> type quite quickly this way.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
> Gazer
> Sent: September 16, 2021 8:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?
>  
>   Hat is slide to type? 
>  
> From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone  > 
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?
>  
> I will have to try this out. It sounds pretty awesome to me. 
>  
> 
> On Sep 15, 2021, at 15:46, Alan Lemly  > wrote:
>  
> Hi LeDon,
>  
> I might have to revisit the slide to type setting. When I tried it with iOS 
> 14, I wasn't impressed but I was comparing it to FlickType which I will no 
> longer have at some point.
>  
> I'll play around with the slide to type setting a bit later and report back 
> with my results.
>  
> Alan Lemly  
>  
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook  for iOS
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
> LeDon Becker mailto:vanike...@gmail.com>>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 1:40:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?
>  
> Does IOS 15 slide to type do the job?
>  
> Get Outlook for iOS 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
> Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com>>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:07:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?
>  
> Hi List,
>  
> I’m looking for an alternative to FlickType for when I have to upgrade my 
> iPhone SE 2020 or upgrade to iOS 15 and no longer have a working FlickType 
> app. Can anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard comment on its 
> accessibility and what on screen typing is like using it with Voiceover? I 
> don’t use a Bluetooth keyboard and much prefer on screen typing with my 
> iPhone especially when I’m away from home and I’m starting to research other 
> alternatives for when FlickType is no longer on my device.
>  
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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Re: Updated "7 Little Words" problems

[Judy Holloway]

Hi. I play Seven Little Words on my iPhone 11 with my Braille display, Humanware BIX20, and I just love it! I play this game every day.
Thanks.
Judy

On Sep 16, 2021 3:41 PM, Debby  wrote:Hello, Some of my friends and I have updated the puzzle game “7 Little Words” to version 7.0.11 with not very good results. We have tried it on iPhone 8s, iPhone 12s and iPhone SE 2020s. When you first load it, it asks if you want to do text-to-speech. You need to use it because if  you tell it no, you will have no speech including nothing coming from Voiceover.  More sounds have been added to the game, and with each swipe around the screen you hear clicks. In setting there is a checkbox to turn the clicks off, but I unchecked the clicks and it didn’t work. A friend of mine likes all of the clicking, but it is kind of annoying to me.  Also for me double tapping doesn’t always work. I sometimes have to repeatedly double tap to go anywhere. There are other issues, but before I write to the developer, can anyone tell me technically what in the world the developer did to the game? I am not sure how to explain it to them. Thanks for your help! Take care and stay safe! Debby  



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Updated "7 Little Words" problems

[Debby]

Hello,

 

Some of my friends and I have updated the puzzle game "7 Little Words" to
version 7.0.11 with not very good results. We have tried it on iPhone 8s,
iPhone 12s and iPhone SE 2020s. When you first load it, it asks if you want
to do text-to-speech. You need to use it because if  you tell it no, you
will have no speech including nothing coming from Voiceover. 

 

More sounds have been added to the game, and with each swipe around the
screen you hear clicks. In setting there is a checkbox to turn the clicks
off, but I unchecked the clicks and it didn't work. A friend of mine likes
all of the clicking, but it is kind of annoying to me. 

 

Also for me double tapping doesn't always work. I sometimes have to
repeatedly double tap to go anywhere.

 

There are other issues, but before I write to the developer, can anyone tell
me technically what in the world the developer did to the game? I am not
sure how to explain it to them.

 

Thanks for your help!

 

Take care and stay safe!

 

Debby  

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RE: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Ed,

My initial experience with the Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard was not good. I'm 
used to having the ability with the native on screen keyboard to be able to 
cycle through my various software keyboards and change them using a button to 
the left of the spacebar. If this button was available with SwiftKey turned on, 
I couldn't find it so I had to turn off SwiftKey in order to return to the 
native on screen keyboard.

If anyone has any tips about using SwiftKey with Voiceover, I'd love to hear 
them. I'd especially like to know how to move among other soft keyboards when 
SwiftKey is active.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed 
Worrell
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:03 AM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

Hey Allen,

I have used Swift Key in the past. I love the Emoji section of the keyboard, as 
far as the standard qwerty side of the keyboard there is nothing fancy for 
Voiceover users. It’s simply a normal keyboard. We don’t have access to the 
swift key swipe functions. The keyboard always seemed to freeze when using VO 
as well. Once other annoying feature is when typing with it, Swift Key always 
announces the first predictive text option and there is no way to turn this 
announcement off.

All in all, it’s accessible but it’s not a great keyboard for VO users.

Ed


> On Sep 15, 2021, at 4:09 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> I’ll be curious to see your feedback Alan. I wasn’t a fan of slide to type 
> when I gave it a brief look because it forced me to use just one finger. I 
> may give it another look to see if it’s advantages outweigh that negative.
>  
> --
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> Chaltain at Outlook
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 2:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?
>  
> Hi LeDon,
>  
> I might have to revisit the slide to type setting. When I tried it with iOS 
> 14, I wasn't impressed but I was comparing it to FlickType which I will no 
> longer have at some point.
>  
> I'll play around with the slide to type setting a bit later and report back 
> with my results.
>  
> Alan Lemly  
>  
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of LeDon 
> Becker 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 1:40:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?
>  
> Does IOS 15 slide to type do the job?
>  
> Get Outlook for iOS
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Alan 
> Lemly 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:07:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?
>  
> Hi List,
>  
> I’m looking for an alternative to FlickType for when I have to upgrade my 
> iPhone SE 2020 or upgrade to iOS 15 and no longer have a working FlickType 
> app. Can anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard comment on its 
> accessibility and what on screen typing is like using it with Voiceover? I 
> don’t use a Bluetooth keyboard and much prefer on screen typing with my 
> iPhone especially when I’m away from home and I’m starting to research other 
> alternatives for when FlickType is no longer on my device.
>  
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[Carolyn]

They will go away in spring 2022? My problem is between a 13 mini and a 14, if 
a 14 might have fingerprint ID. Of course, I'm living without fingerprint, but 
this is way sooner than I wanted to replace my 11 that I bought in January of 
2020. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

the rumor for the end of the Mini is extremely strong. Apple confirms almost 
nothing. Apple is planning a big upgrade to the camera system for the 14, 
increasing to 48 megapixels from the current 12.  They do not want to put 
resources trying to figure out how to cram this into a phone that is just five 
percent of their 12 lineup. If folks want a mini, like I do, run and get the 
deals this fall for the 13 mini. The deals will go away in spring 2022.

Kelly



On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> LOL, Seigard.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
>
> Hmm, and other descriptive terms could also be applied to the colour 
> brown, maybe Apple could start a contest to see who comes up with the 
> best term 藍
>
> And then why has there never been an iPhone in colour Apple Green?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Carolyn
> Sent: September 16, 2021 8:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
>
>
>
> You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny 
> chocolate brown phone would be fine.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angie Nutt
>
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>
> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
>
>
>
> I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if 
> this is official or a rumour.
>
>
>
> As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course 
> it does depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs.
>
>
>
> All the best
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon >  > wrote:
>
>>
>
>> I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini 
>> pretty early on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does 
>> better. I just think that particular phone could always be dealing 
>> with battery life issues since it's so small and trying to handle the 
>> daily demand users put on it.
>
>>
>
>> On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote:
>
>>> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some 
>>> reason. Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini 
>>> came out I got that as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I 
>>> had no idea they’d bring out another mini so soon.
>
>>>
>
>>> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on 
>>> Friday 13th; also superstition and the like fascinates me. The 
>>> weird, supernatural etc.
>
>>>
>
>>> All the best
>
>>> Angie
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
 On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor >>>  > wrote:
>

>
 Hello Everyone,
>

>
 I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.
>

>
 To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do 
 not
>
 have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of 
 the season.
>

>
 So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a
>
 new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for 
 one
>
 more year (smile).
>

>
 Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not 
 relish
>
 the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part
>
 of its name (smile).  It took all of my courage, back in the day, 
 to install iOS 13!!!
>
 (big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin).
>

>
 Mark
>

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Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Wayne Merritt]

All due respect to fashion, but if you get a red phone, you are now
contributing 10% of the purchase price to fighting the global Covid-19
pandemic. That was why I got a red iPhone 11 last year.

Kindly,
Wayne Merritt

On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Oh yes, to my delight, I read the sky blue - F I N E!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 12:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Carolyn,
> IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue is a
> light Sky Blue...
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Carolyn
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> I was hoping the blue was sky blue.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Simon,
> You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
> My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their colors, she
> says, are in the pastel hews.
> It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.
>
> The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
> They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue.
> Interesting they don't make up a name for the regular blue...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> What is  the sierra blue?
>
> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of
> colours but it's not one I've heard of before.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly
> Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear,
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to
>>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it
>>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next
>>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her
>>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and

Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[Pete Nalda]

Too bad about the mini, I love my mini V!  Oh it’s so perfect I don’t know how 
much they could improve, safe for camera maybe and processor.

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda

> On Sep 16, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> the rumor for the end of the Mini is extremely strong. Apple confirms
> almost nothing. Apple is planning a big upgrade to the camera system
> for the 14, increasing to 48 megapixels from the current 12.  They do
> not want to put resources trying to figure out how to cram this into a
> phone that is just five percent of their 12 lineup. If folks want a
> mini, like I do, run and get the deals this fall for the 13 mini. The
> deals will go away in spring 2022.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> LOL, Seigard.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:34 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
>> 
>> Hmm, and other descriptive terms could also be applied to the colour brown,
>> maybe Apple could start a contest to see who comes up with the best term 藍
>> 
>> And then why has there never been an iPhone in colour Apple Green?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
>> Carolyn
>> Sent: September 16, 2021 8:30 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny chocolate
>> brown phone would be fine.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angie Nutt
>> 
>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM
>> 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is
>> official or a rumour.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it
>> does depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All the best
>> 
>> Angie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon >>  > wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty
>>> early on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just
>>> think that particular phone could always be dealing with battery life
>>> issues since it's so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put
>>> on it.
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote:
>> 
 I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some
 reason. Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out
 I got that as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea
 they’d bring out another mini so soon.
>> 
 
>> 
 I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday
 13th; also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird,
 supernatural etc.
>> 
 
>> 
 All the best
>> 
 Angie
>> 
 
>> 
 
>> 
> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor   > wrote:
>> 
> 
>> 
> Hello Everyone,
>> 
> 
>> 
> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.
>> 
> 
>> 
> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not
>> 
> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the
> season.
>> 
> 
>> 
> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a
>> 
> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one
>> 
> more year (smile).
>> 
> 
>> 
> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish
>> 
> the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part
>> 
> of its name (smile).  It took all of my courage, back in the day, to
> install iOS 13!!!
>> 
> (big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin).
>> 
> 
>> 
> Mark
>> 
> 
>> 
> 
>> 
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RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[Christopher Chaltain]

I don't have a mini, but I do prefer braille screen input on my iPhone 11 over 
my iPhone 7, especially when using it in landscape mode. The larger screen just 
gives me more room so my fingers aren't so cramped. The home button also gets 
in the way when using braille screen input on the iPhone 7. For these and other 
reasons, I do prefer using braille screen input in screen away mode. I just 
find it easier to make sure my fingers are oriented correctly, plus 
It works more consistently as I move back and forth between the iPhone 7 and 
the iPhone 11.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
therealsandyfin...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

I suppose it varies from person to person, but have any of you mini users use 
Braille Screen Input? I like the idea of a small phone but wonder if (1) BSI is 
harder and (2) how is the audio? Is the speaker also smaller?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Angie 
Nutt
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is 
official or a rumour.

As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it does 
depend on what I'm doing. It's good enough for my needs.

All the best
Angie

> On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty early 
> on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just think that 
> particular phone could always be dealing with battery life issues since it's 
> so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put on it.
> 
> On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote:
>> I'm totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. 
>> Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that 
>> as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they'd bring out 
>> another mini so soon.
>> 
>> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; 
>> also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc.
>> 
>> All the best
>> Angie
>> 
>> 
>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.
>>> 
>>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not 
>>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the 
>>> season.
>>> 
>>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a 
>>> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one 
>>> more year (smile).
>>> 
>>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish 
>>> the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part 
>>> of its name (smile).  It took all of my courage, back in the day, to 
>>> install iOS 13!!!
>>> (big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin).
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[Kelly Pierce]

the rumor for the end of the Mini is extremely strong. Apple confirms
almost nothing. Apple is planning a big upgrade to the camera system
for the 14, increasing to 48 megapixels from the current 12.  They do
not want to put resources trying to figure out how to cram this into a
phone that is just five percent of their 12 lineup. If folks want a
mini, like I do, run and get the deals this fall for the 13 mini. The
deals will go away in spring 2022.

Kelly



On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> LOL, Seigard.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
>
> Hmm, and other descriptive terms could also be applied to the colour brown,
> maybe Apple could start a contest to see who comes up with the best term 藍
>
> And then why has there never been an iPhone in colour Apple Green?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Carolyn
> Sent: September 16, 2021 8:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
>
>
>
> You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny chocolate
> brown phone would be fine.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angie Nutt
>
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>
> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
>
>
>
> I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is
> official or a rumour.
>
>
>
> As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it
> does depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs.
>
>
>
> All the best
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon >  > wrote:
>
>>
>
>> I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty
>> early on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just
>> think that particular phone could always be dealing with battery life
>> issues since it's so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put
>> on it.
>
>>
>
>> On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote:
>
>>> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some
>>> reason. Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out
>>> I got that as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea
>>> they’d bring out another mini so soon.
>
>>>
>
>>> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday
>>> 13th; also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird,
>>> supernatural etc.
>
>>>
>
>>> All the best
>
>>> Angie
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
 On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor >>>  > wrote:
>

>
 Hello Everyone,
>

>
 I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.
>

>
 To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not
>
 have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the
 season.
>

>
 So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a
>
 new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one
>
 more year (smile).
>

>
 Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish
>
 the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part
>
 of its name (smile).  It took all of my courage, back in the day, to
 install iOS 13!!!
>
 (big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin).
>

>
 Mark
>

>

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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Carolyn]

Oh yes, to my delight, I read the sky blue - F I N E! 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 12:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Carolyn,
IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue is a light 
Sky Blue...





Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I was hoping the blue was sky blue. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Simon,
You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their colors, she 
says, are in the pastel hews.  
It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.

The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue. Interesting 
they don't make up a name for the regular blue...






Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

What is  the sierra blue?

Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of colours 
but it's not one I've heard of before.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

How about Sierra Blue?




Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new black. I 
would be open to purple though.



Kelly



On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>
> All the best
> Angie
>
>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to 
>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it 
>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next 
>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her 
>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and 
>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4 
>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware 
>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the 
>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be 
>> getting!
>>
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>> from 

RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[Carolyn]

LOL, Seigard. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

Hmm, and other descriptive terms could also be applied to the colour brown, 
maybe Apple could start a contest to see who comes up with the best term 藍

And then why has there never been an iPhone in colour Apple Green?

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: September 16, 2021 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

 

You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny chocolate 
brown phone would be fine. 

 

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angie Nutt

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

 

I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is 
official or a rumour.

 

As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it does 
depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs.

 

All the best

Angie

 

> On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon   > wrote:

> 

> I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty early 
> on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just think that 
> particular phone could always be dealing with battery life issues since it's 
> so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put on it.

> 

> On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote:

>> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. 
>> Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that 
>> as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out 
>> another mini so soon.

>> 

>> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; 
>> also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc.

>> 

>> All the best

>> Angie

>> 

>> 

>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> 
>>> > wrote:

>>> 

>>> Hello Everyone,

>>> 

>>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.

>>> 

>>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not 

>>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the 
>>> season.

>>> 

>>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a 

>>> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one 

>>> more year (smile).

>>> 

>>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish 

>>> the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part 

>>> of its name (smile).  It took all of my courage, back in the day, to 
>>> install iOS 13!!!

>>> (big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin).

>>> 

>>> Mark

>>> 

>>> 

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[Alan Lemly]

Hi List,

 

I'm starting to play around with the slide to type keyboard setting with the
upcoming demise of FlickType. For those interested, I highly recommend the
9/18/19 podcast by Thomas Donville also known as AnonyMouse at AppleVis. The
title of the podcast is How to use the iOS quick path swipe keyboard with
Voiceover. Quick path was the official name of the setting although slide to
type is the name most used and what is used in the settings.

 

My question is how to get punctuation when using slide to type and composing
an on screen message. This will mainly be the period or full stop at the end
of a sentence. I thought I had auto punctuation turned on that would place a
period at sentence end by double tapping the spacebar but this is not
working. If anyone using Voiceover can let me know how to adjust my
punctuation settings so that I don't have to open the numbers screen on the
on screen keyboard to find the period, I'd very much appreciate it. Or if
there is a gesture I'm missing that speeds up the entry of punctuation, I'd
really like to know about it.

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[therealsandyfinley]

I suppose it varies from person to person, but have any of you mini users use 
Braille Screen Input? I like the idea of a small phone but wonder if (1) BSI is 
harder and (2) how is the audio? Is the speaker also smaller?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Angie 
Nutt
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is 
official or a rumour.

As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it does 
depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs.

All the best
Angie

> On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty early 
> on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just think that 
> particular phone could always be dealing with battery life issues since it's 
> so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put on it.
> 
> On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote:
>> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. 
>> Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that 
>> as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out 
>> another mini so soon.
>> 
>> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; 
>> also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc.
>> 
>> All the best
>> Angie
>> 
>> 
>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.
>>> 
>>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not 
>>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the 
>>> season.
>>> 
>>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a 
>>> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one 
>>> more year (smile).
>>> 
>>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish 
>>> the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part 
>>> of its name (smile).  It took all of my courage, back in the day, to 
>>> install iOS 13!!!
>>> (big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin).
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
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Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Kelly Pierce]

The blue for the regular iPhone and the mini paired with a black
leather case reminds me of rugged men on motorcycles wearing black
leather jackets and blue jeans.  It will be either a blue or Midnight
for me. My iPhone 7 is black and I am a Nia list so black goes with my
personality.

Kelly




On 9/16/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Carolyn,
> IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue is a
> light Sky Blue...
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Carolyn
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> I was hoping the blue was sky blue.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Simon,
> You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
> My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their colors, she
> says, are in the pastel hews.
> It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.
>
> The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
> They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue.
> Interesting they don't make up a name for the regular blue...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710074857%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tnbW40wFXBOusq9GMHbCA1K2zCJyUl4yi0Jz1quf4%2BI%3Dreserved=0
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> What is  the sierra blue?
>
> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of
> colours but it's not one I've heard of before.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710084814%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tno%2BTEYJ8H7lq3iMuJd84Ay2pao%2B%2FSMUhhK3JWQGjX4%3Dreserved=0
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly
> Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear,
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to
>>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it
>>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next
>>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her
>>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and
>>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4
>>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware
>>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the
>>> features and enhancements. That's one new 

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Richard Turner]

Carolyn,
IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue is a light 
Sky Blue...





Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I was hoping the blue was sky blue. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Simon,
You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their colors, she 
says, are in the pastel hews.  
It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.

The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue. Interesting 
they don't make up a name for the regular blue...






Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

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https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710074857%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tnbW40wFXBOusq9GMHbCA1K2zCJyUl4yi0Jz1quf4%2BI%3Dreserved=0


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

What is  the sierra blue?

Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of colours 
but it's not one I've heard of before.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

How about Sierra Blue?




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new black. I 
would be open to purple though.



Kelly



On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>
> All the best
> Angie
>
>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to 
>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it 
>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next 
>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her 
>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and 
>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4 
>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware 
>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the 
>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be 
>> getting!
>>
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first 
>>> day they will be in people’s hands.
>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe 
>>> to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[Richard Turner]

Angie,
That is at least two of us on this list who were born on a Friday the 13th.  
Great day to have been born!

All this nonsense about avoiding the number 13 is just that.

Rather than being extra careful on the 13th, people would be wise to be careful 
in general, .

Whether one buys a new iPhone or not is such an individual choice, I certainly 
would never say someone "should" or "should not" buy a new phone.  When I 
worked in the counseling field, my favorite phrase with people was to encourage 
them to "stop should'ing all over themselves as well as others."  
To paraphrase  what Yoda says, "Do or do not...there is no should."

 
Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny chocolate 
brown phone would be fine. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Angie Nutt
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is 
official or a rumour.

As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it does 
depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs.

All the best
Angie

> On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty early 
> on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just think that 
> particular phone could always be dealing with battery life issues since it's 
> so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put on it.
> 
> On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote:
>> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. 
>> Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that 
>> as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out 
>> another mini so soon.
>> 
>> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; 
>> also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc.
>> 
>> All the best
>> Angie
>> 
>> 
>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.
>>> 
>>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not 
>>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the 
>>> season.
>>> 
>>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a 
>>> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one 
>>> more year (smile).
>>> 
>>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish 
>>> the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part 
>>> of its name (smile).  It took all of my courage, back in the day, to 
>>> install iOS 13!!!
>>> (big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin).
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
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RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hmm, and other descriptive terms could also be applied to the colour brown, 
maybe Apple could start a contest to see who comes up with the best term 藍

And then why has there never been an iPhone in colour Apple Green?



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: September 16, 2021 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective



You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny chocolate 
brown phone would be fine.



-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angie Nutt

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective



I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is 
official or a rumour.



As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it does 
depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs.



All the best

Angie



> On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon 
> mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com>> wrote:

>

> I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty early 
> on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just think that 
> particular phone could always be dealing with battery life issues since it's 
> so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put on it.

>

> On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote:

>> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. 
>> Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that 
>> as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out 
>> another mini so soon.

>>

>> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; 
>> also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc.

>>

>> All the best

>> Angie

>>

>>

>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> 
>>> wrote:

>>>

>>> Hello Everyone,

>>>

>>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.

>>>

>>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not

>>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the 
>>> season.

>>>

>>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a

>>> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one

>>> more year (smile).

>>>

>>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish

>>> the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part

>>> of its name (smile).  It took all of my courage, back in the day, to 
>>> install iOS 13!!!

>>> (big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin).

>>>

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RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[Carolyn]

You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny chocolate 
brown phone would be fine. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Angie Nutt
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is 
official or a rumour.

As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it does 
depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs.

All the best
Angie

> On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty early 
> on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just think that 
> particular phone could always be dealing with battery life issues since it's 
> so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put on it.
> 
> On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote:
>> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. 
>> Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that 
>> as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out 
>> another mini so soon.
>> 
>> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; 
>> also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc.
>> 
>> All the best
>> Angie
>> 
>> 
>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.
>>> 
>>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not 
>>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the 
>>> season.
>>> 
>>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a 
>>> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one 
>>> more year (smile).
>>> 
>>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish 
>>> the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part 
>>> of its name (smile).  It took all of my courage, back in the day, to 
>>> install iOS 13!!!
>>> (big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin).
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
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RE: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It is actually called "QuickPath" and you use it by finding the first letter of 
the word you want to type and holding down your finger for a couple of seconds, 
when you hear a little sound it is active and you then very quickly slide your 
finger to the other letters in the word you want to type or even close to their 
position on the keyboard. At some point if you are doing it correctly you hear 
Voiceover say the word you want, this could be after just a few letters or 
sometimes more and if you hear the word spoken you can lift your finger and the 
word will be inserted. You then find the first letter of the next word you want 
and start over. If you practice a lot and have good spatial awareness of where 
the letters are on the onscreen keyboard you can type quite quickly this way.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: September 16, 2021 8:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

  Hat is slide to type?

From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

I will have to try this out. It sounds pretty awesome to me.

On Sep 15, 2021, at 15:46, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi LeDon,

I might have to revisit the slide to type setting. When I tried it with iOS 14, 
I wasn't impressed but I was comparing it to FlickType which I will no longer 
have at some point.

I'll play around with the slide to type setting a bit later and report back 
with my results.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of LeDon 
Becker mailto:vanike...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 1:40:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

Does IOS 15 slide to type do the job?

Get Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Alan 
Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:07:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

Hi List,


I’m looking for an alternative to FlickType for when I have to upgrade my 
iPhone SE 2020 or upgrade to iOS 15 and no longer have a working FlickType app. 
Can anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard comment on its accessibility and 
what on screen typing is like using it with Voiceover? I don’t use a Bluetooth 
keyboard and much prefer on screen typing with my iPhone especially when I’m 
away from home and I’m starting to research other alternatives for when 
FlickType is no longer on my device.


Thanks in advance for your help.


Alan Lemly

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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Carolyn]

I was hoping the blue was sky blue. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Simon,
You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their colors, she 
says, are in the pastel hews.  
It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.

The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue. Interesting 
they don't make up a name for the regular blue...






Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

What is  the sierra blue?

Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of colours 
but it's not one I've heard of before.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

How about Sierra Blue?




Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new black. I 
would be open to purple though.



Kelly



On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>
> All the best
> Angie
>
>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to 
>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it 
>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next 
>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her 
>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and 
>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4 
>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware 
>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the 
>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be 
>> getting!
>>
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first 
>>> day they will be in people’s hands.
>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe 
>>> to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”
>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>
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>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> We did tune in a bit after the event 

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Carolyn]

I would not want a red phone. I remember, when I had partial sight, and my aunt 
and uncle had a red on on their wall. This was in the 50's, when colored phones 
were not common, but I did not like the look of that red phone. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 6:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Yeah I spoke to apple about the s7 watch yesterday,

I asked what the star light colour was and she said that it's a cream type 
colour A combination between gold and silver.

Which is what Richard said yesterday.

Again a colour to attract the Asian / Chinese market who like the bling colours.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 4:42 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Thanks for that clarification - definitely makes sense for the starlight. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

My sighted wife, who is a quilter, says that Starlight is a creamy white color. 
 Think of the color of cream and that is pretty darn close.

That makes sense, because Starlight implies the color of the light coming from 
a star, right?

What I remember from my sighted first 12 years, camping in the mountains at 
around 8000 feet, when the stars seemed almost close enough to touch, cream is 
a good comparison for starlight.

 

She also said all the colors are pastels.

Their purple she said is a light lavender.  Pink, a lighter pink.  Space Gray a 
medium to light gray.

 

 

HTH,

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

Richard,

 

Thanks 

But to me,

Gold is gold,

Starlight is what you see at night

And here in nz night is pretty dark but with sparkles.

 

Cheers.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

>From one web source it says about the colors:

The various color schemes for the new Apple iPad mini.

First of all we have four color schemes at our disposal. Be it azure blue to 
golden pink, gold, as well as more sober sidereal grey. Apple has dubbed these 
color schemes Purple, Pink, Starlight, and Space Gray.

I think that means Apple is calling Gold, Starlight if you take them in 
respective order n\in that list.

Purple: azure blue

Pink: golden pink

Starlight: Gold

Space Gray: sidereal grey

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

I do like the sound of the new iPad mini,

 

And usb-c will be a major bonus 

 

And the full screen without the home button will be interesting 

 

But can someone tell me,

 

What colour is star light?

 

I understand pink purple and space grey,

But star light to me is dark dark blue with bright sparkly things through out 

Like a night sky.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com 
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:05 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

Hi,

 

I will not be upgrading my ipad yet I don’t think.  I do like the idea of USBC 
connectivity for charging which seems to be the standered.  I think it might be 
worth it.  I have an ipad mini 5th gen so will most likely hold on to it a 

RE: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It works quite well and just as any of these keyboards it takes a lot of 
practice to be any good at it, just playing around with it for 5 or 10 minutes 
will not be encouraging.

From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone 
Sent: September 16, 2021 8:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

I will have to try this out. It sounds pretty awesome to me.


On Sep 15, 2021, at 15:46, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi LeDon,

I might have to revisit the slide to type setting. When I tried it with iOS 14, 
I wasn't impressed but I was comparing it to FlickType which I will no longer 
have at some point.

I'll play around with the slide to type setting a bit later and report back 
with my results.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of LeDon 
Becker mailto:vanike...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 1:40:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

Does IOS 15 slide to type do the job?

Get Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Alan 
Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:07:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

Hi List,


I’m looking for an alternative to FlickType for when I have to upgrade my 
iPhone SE 2020 or upgrade to iOS 15 and no longer have a working FlickType app. 
Can anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard comment on its accessibility and 
what on screen typing is like using it with Voiceover? I don’t use a Bluetooth 
keyboard and much prefer on screen typing with my iPhone especially when I’m 
away from home and I’m starting to research other alternatives for when 
FlickType is no longer on my device.


Thanks in advance for your help.


Alan Lemly

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RE: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

[Star Gazer]

  Hat is slide to type? 

 

From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone  
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

 

I will have to try this out. It sounds pretty awesome to me. 





On Sep 15, 2021, at 15:46, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi LeDon,

 

I might have to revisit the slide to type setting. When I tried it with iOS 14, 
I wasn't impressed but I was comparing it to FlickType which I will no longer 
have at some point.

 

I'll play around with the slide to type setting a bit later and report back 
with my results.

 

Alan Lemly  

 

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
LeDon Becker mailto:vanike...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 1:40:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

 

Does IOS 15 slide to type do the job?

 

Get Outlook for iOS  


  _  


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Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:07:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

 

Hi List,

 

I’m looking for an alternative to FlickType for when I have to upgrade my 
iPhone SE 2020 or upgrade to iOS 15 and no longer have a working FlickType app. 
Can anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard comment on its accessibility and 
what on screen typing is like using it with Voiceover? I don’t use a Bluetooth 
keyboard and much prefer on screen typing with my iPhone especially when I’m 
away from home and I’m starting to research other alternatives for when 
FlickType is no longer on my device.

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

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Re: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

I will have to try this out. It sounds pretty awesome to me. 

> On Sep 15, 2021, at 15:46, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Hi LeDon,
> 
> I might have to revisit the slide to type setting. When I tried it with iOS 
> 14, I wasn't impressed but I was comparing it to FlickType which I will no 
> longer have at some point.
> 
> I'll play around with the slide to type setting a bit later and report back 
> with my results.
> 
> Alan Lemly  
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>  
> Hi List,
>  
> I’m looking for an alternative to FlickType for when I have to upgrade my 
> iPhone SE 2020 or upgrade to iOS 15 and no longer have a working FlickType 
> app. Can anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard comment on its 
> accessibility and what on screen typing is like using it with Voiceover? I 
> don’t use a Bluetooth keyboard and much prefer on screen typing with my 
> iPhone especially when I’m away from home and I’m starting to research other 
> alternatives for when FlickType is no longer on my device.
>  
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>  
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Re: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Allen,

I have used Swift Key in the past. I love the Emoji section of the keyboard, as 
far as the standard qwerty side of the keyboard there is nothing fancy for 
Voiceover users. It’s simply a normal keyboard. We don’t have access to the 
swift key swipe functions. The keyboard always seemed to freeze when using VO 
as well. Once other annoying feature is when typing with it, Swift Key always 
announces the first predictive text option and there is no way to turn this 
announcement off.

All in all, it’s accessible but it’s not a great keyboard for VO users.

Ed


> On Sep 15, 2021, at 4:09 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
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> I’ll be curious to see your feedback Alan. I wasn’t a fan of slide to type 
> when I gave it a brief look because it forced me to use just one finger. I 
> may give it another look to see if it’s advantages outweigh that negative.
>  
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>  
> Hi LeDon,
>  
> I might have to revisit the slide to type setting. When I tried it with iOS 
> 14, I wasn't impressed but I was comparing it to FlickType which I will no 
> longer have at some point.
>  
> I'll play around with the slide to type setting a bit later and report back 
> with my results.
>  
> Alan Lemly  
>  
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>  
> Does IOS 15 slide to type do the job?
>  
> Get Outlook for iOS
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard?
>  
> Hi List,
>  
> I’m looking for an alternative to FlickType for when I have to upgrade my 
> iPhone SE 2020 or upgrade to iOS 15 and no longer have a working FlickType 
> app. Can anyone using Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard comment on its 
> accessibility and what on screen typing is like using it with Voiceover? I 
> don’t use a Bluetooth keyboard and much prefer on screen typing with my 
> iPhone especially when I’m away from home and I’m starting to research other 
> alternatives for when FlickType is no longer on my device.
>  
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Re: HomePod problem

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Mary,

I have had this issue as well. I actually had to go as far as restarting my 
wireless router for anything to help.

I can proudly say I’ve only had this issue once. I guess it was luck, maybe…

Ed


> On Sep 15, 2021, at 9:33 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> I have a stereo pair of HomePods which was working just fine yesterday. This 
> evening, I went to watch my Apple TV through the HomePods, and they are not 
> responding at all. Siri doesn’t respond. Touching the top of the homePod eels 
> no sound, and in the home app, I am informed on helpfully that this device is 
> not responding. No kidding. This device requires attention. But they don’t 
> give me any hint as to what kind of attention or how I might find out. I 
> unplug them and re-plugged them, and I got the sound that indicates that they 
> came back on. But they do not work at all, and I can’t find anything useful 
> from Apple support site. Does anybody have any idea what kind of attention 
> the device might require aside from a sledgehammer?
> Mary
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Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[Angie Nutt]

I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is 
official or a rumour.

As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it does 
depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs.

All the best
Angie

> On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon  wrote:
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> I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty early 
> on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just think that 
> particular phone could always be dealing with battery life issues since it's 
> so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put on it.
> 
> On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote:
>> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. 
>> Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that 
>> as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out 
>> another mini so soon.
>> 
>> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; 
>> also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc.
>> 
>> All the best
>> Angie
>> 
>> 
>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor  wrote:
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>>> Hello Everyone,
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>>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.
>>> 
>>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not have
>>> any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the season.
>>> 
>>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a new
>>> battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one more year
>>> (smile).
>>> 
>>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish the
>>> idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part of its name
>>> (smile).  It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install iOS 13!!!
>>> (big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin).
>>> 
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Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[Gordon]

I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty 
early on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just 
think that particular phone could always be dealing with battery life 
issues since it's so small and trying to handle the daily demand users 
put on it.


On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote:

I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. Was 
originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that as I 
love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out another 
mini so soon.

I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; 
also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc.

All the best
Angie



On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.

To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not have
any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the season.

So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a new
battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one more year
(smile).

Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish the
idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part of its name
(smile).  It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install iOS 13!!!
(big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin).

Mark


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Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[Angie Nutt]

I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. Was 
originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that as I 
love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out another 
mini so soon.

I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; 
also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc.

All the best
Angie


> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.
> 
> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not have
> any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the season.
> 
> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a new
> battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one more year
> (smile).
> 
> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish the
> idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part of its name
> (smile).  It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install iOS 13!!!
> (big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). 
> 
> Mark
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Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Angie Nutt]

I never use a case and don’t care about coordinating it with my clothing as 
it’s in  a bag when I’m out.

I can see a little; don’t know if I’d care about the colour if I couldn’t; 
doubt it though.

All the best
Angie


> On 15 Sep 2021, at 17:46, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> And by the time you stick your phone in a case which most of us do you don't 
> see much of the colour any more unless of course you use a clear case. Are 
> those of you who are so hung up on just the right colour that colour 
> coordinated with your clothing as well?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
> Pierce
> Sent: September 15, 2021 9:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
> 
> Sierra Blue is only available for the pro models. The regular 12 and
> 12 Mini has a blue color, but some have described it as a lighter blue from 
> the dark navy blue of the iPhone 12. The description was the 13 colors had a 
> pastel quality to them.  I liked the navy blue color in the iPhone 12. It 
> would go great with a black leather iPhone case.  I want to learn more about 
> regular 13 blue. I am oscillating between blue and midnight.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/15/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> How about Sierra Blue?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> – Jane Wagner
>> 
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>> 
>> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
>> black. I would be open to purple though.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> Angie
>>> 
 On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
 
 I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
 WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
 which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
 the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
 the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall 
 to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and 
 then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully 
 next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
 My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get 
 her hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new 
 bells and whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my 
 old Series 4 watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new 
 Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out 
 some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I 
 will be getting!
 
 Kindly,
 Wayne Merritt
 
 On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the 
> first day they will be in people’s hands.
> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is 
> safe to count on the 24th at the latest.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
> with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
> w.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d9785
> 6f7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6376731371898305
> 76%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJB
> TiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=kgEA8kmL4R0xh2ExTycgV1D
> j5T%2FEVABmFwzl3FPutP8%3Dreserved=0
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
> 
> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 
> 15 will be released to the public? I assume it will be some time 
> mid next week, but thought I check to see if somebody knows the 
> exact date.
> I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this 
> 

Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Hi to all.  I totally agree with you Mark.  I will also wait another
year before upgrading my iPhone8.  I will have something to look
forward to.  Last night I had a question and called apple
accessibility and I found out something totally awesome about the
iPhone 13 pro.  It can go as high as one terabyte of storage.  That is
so totally awesome.  I can just fill that baby up with so many books.
The battery life on the iPhone 13 is also really cool.  I could get
almost double the amount of battery life of my iPhone 8.  If the
iPhone 13pro  has so much storage and such a good battery life, just
imagine how cool the iPhone 14 will be.  Also, if the iPhone 14 really
does have some kind of touch ID, that would be perfect for me.  I know
the processor would be also very good on the iPhone 14 as well.  I
just have to start saving up money now.

On 9/16/21, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.
>
> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not have
> any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the season.
>
> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a new
> battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one more year
> (smile).
>
> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish the
> idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part of its name
> (smile).  It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install iOS 13!!!
> (big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin).
>
> Mark
>
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Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.

To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not have
any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the season.

So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a new
battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one more year
(smile).

Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish the
idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part of its name
(smile).  It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install iOS 13!!!
(big Smile).  Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). 

Mark


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