Issue With Zoom and iPhone App
Hi Group, I am a newcomer to this list. I am a reasonably competent user of the Apple iPhone series since 2019--starting with the iPhone 8 and now using the iPhone SE 2022. I have been using the Zoom app for the iPhone almost since the beginning of my experience in 2019. The app was very accessible and interfaced well with all aspects of the VoiceOver screen reader app until March of 2023. With that Zoom upgrade sometime in March of this year, the ability of VoiceOver to identify the current speaker as the conversation progresses has been lost on my iPhone. In the past if multiple people were speaking and if you had the focus centered on the area where the video appears, you would d hear VoiceOver reacting as follows: Displaying Joe Smith's video (after he stops speaking) displaying Mary Jones' video (after she stops speaking) displaying Bob Green's video (and so on.) Now, all I hear is my own screen name. At times when the speaker changes, I hear some odd speech which sighted people who are observing do not see. I am not sure quite what is being said but it involves numbers and references to e-mail and other disjointed things. This issue is extremely inconvenient--particularly in a large group of strangers in a Zoom communication. I now cannot be sure who exactly is talking and therefore cannot address questions to particular people. Someone suggested changing an item under meeting settings that says: 'self video mirror' and by default it is checked as active. I unchecked this, but this did not solve the issue. Has any visually impaired person on this list noticed this issue and if so is there a solution? I have already written to the Apple accessibility people and they said they weren't aware of what was going on and that I should contact Zoom itself. I did this and with both the Zoom general UI e-mail address s well as the app developer in the app store and have received no response. Thanks in advance for any help. -- Signature: For a nation to admit it has done grievous wrongs and will strive to correct them for the betterment of all is no vice; For a nation to claim it has always been great, needs no improvement and to cling to its past achievements is no virtue! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1b3b7a0d-b8d4-3ef5-e529-44ca7a82eee3%40roadrunner.com.
Re: Vision Pro Headset and accessibility from Mac Rumors
I completely agree with Richard Sent from my iPhone SE 3On Jun 12, 2023, at 12:02 AM, Richard Turner wrote:I can use all those apps with my phone and get a lot more hours out of it. So, for me, And I always make I statements, spending $3500 on another device makes no sense. I again, as I have said, am speaking for myself. What others choose to do is there business. I believe the idea of these lists is to express an opinion. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 11, 2023, at 7:58 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote:What if we could use apps like Envision A I, Seeing A I, Be My Eyes, or Aira with this device? And this is just the start. We do not know what apps might be developed in the future. No one can say exactly what will happen, but the potential is definitely there.And I agree, the price is expensive. But so is other tech like the Envision Glasses for $2,500 to $3,500, and the Orcam for over $4,000. I think both of these devices are good ones and offers a lot of help to many people. But this new Vision Pro from Apple has the potential of being so much more than either of these devices for around the same price.ChrisOn Jun 11, 2023, at 9:53 PM, lenron brown wrote:You call it a toy, but what if Aira or some other app could takeadvantage of those cameras? I can see some really good use cases forthis, some maybe with AI or a human able to provide really gooddescriptions / directions because of being able to use those cameras.On 6/11/23, Mike Arrigo wrote:The price for that is crazy, I wonder how many of those Apple will sell.On Jun 10, 2023, at 9:31 AM, Richard Turner wrote:I'm glad they are including accessibility; but I will never spend thatkind of money on a toy.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of littleconsequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 9, 2023, at 10:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:OK, so Apple apparently is trying to make this accessible just as theyare doing for all thei rother products. This is commendable, but we'llhave to see what the reality will be like and what sort of uses thiswould even have for a blind person.From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf OfRichard TurnerSent: Friday, June 9, 2023 11:33 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Vision Pro Headset and accessibility from Mac Rumors As Sieghard pointed out, this extremely expensive toy will not beavailable until 2024.If you want to learn more about it, Mac Rumors has an article with linksto the developer session spelling out the accessibility features.Here is that link, with other links to the WWDC session on that page.https://www.macrumors.com/2023/06/07/apple-vision-pro-accessibility-features/HTH,Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch withit.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in theUniverseMy web site: https://www.turner42.com--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhonelist.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, orif you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact theowners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara atcaraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups"VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send anemail to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visithttps://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001201d99b00%24da515990%248ef40cb0%24%40comcast.net.--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhonelist.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, orif you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact theowners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara atcaraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups"VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send anemail to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visithttps://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB565637E69D93A1B963F8AA16C756A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhonelist.If you
Re: Vision Pro Headset and accessibility from Mac Rumors
I can use all those apps with my phone and get a lot more hours out of it. So, for me, And I always make I statements, spending $3500 on another device makes no sense. I again, as I have said, am speaking for myself. What others choose to do is there business. I believe the idea of these lists is to express an opinion. Richard, USA. “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com > On Jun 11, 2023, at 7:58 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote: > > > What if we could use apps like Envision A I, Seeing A I, Be My Eyes, or Aira > with this device? And this is just the start. We do not know what apps > might be developed in the future. No one can say exactly what will happen, > but the potential is definitely there. > > And I agree, the price is expensive. But so is other tech like the Envision > Glasses for $2,500 to $3,500, and the Orcam for over $4,000. I think both of > these devices are good ones and offers a lot of help to many people. But > this new Vision Pro from Apple has the potential of being so much more than > either of these devices for around the same price. > > Chris > > >> On Jun 11, 2023, at 9:53 PM, lenron brown wrote: >> >> You call it a toy, but what if Aira or some other app could take >> advantage of those cameras? I can see some really good use cases for >> this, some maybe with AI or a human able to provide really good >> descriptions / directions because of being able to use those cameras. >> On 6/11/23, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>> The price for that is crazy, I wonder how many of those Apple will sell. >>> On Jun 10, 2023, at 9:31 AM, Richard Turner wrote: I'm glad they are including accessibility; but I will never spend that kind of money on a toy. Richard, USA. “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com > On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > OK, so Apple apparently is trying to make this accessible just as they > are doing for all thei rother products. This is commendable, but we'll > have to see what the reality will be like and what sort of uses this > would even have for a blind person. > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 11:33 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Vision Pro Headset and accessibility from Mac Rumors > As Sieghard pointed out, this extremely expensive toy will not be > available until 2024. > If you want to learn more about it, Mac Rumors has an article with links > to the developer session spelling out the accessibility features. > Here is that link, with other links to the WWDC session on that page. > > https://www.macrumors.com/2023/06/07/apple-vision-pro-accessibility-features/ > HTH, > Richard, USA. > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with > it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the > Universe > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001201d99b00%24da515990%248ef40cb0%24%40comcast.net. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: >
Re: Vision Pro Headset and accessibility from Mac Rumors
What if we could use apps like Envision A I, Seeing A I, Be My Eyes, or Aira with this device? And this is just the start. We do not know what apps might be developed in the future. No one can say exactly what will happen, but the potential is definitely there. And I agree, the price is expensive. But so is other tech like the Envision Glasses for $2,500 to $3,500, and the Orcam for over $4,000. I think both of these devices are good ones and offers a lot of help to many people. But this new Vision Pro from Apple has the potential of being so much more than either of these devices for around the same price. Chris > On Jun 11, 2023, at 9:53 PM, lenron brown wrote: > > You call it a toy, but what if Aira or some other app could take > advantage of those cameras? I can see some really good use cases for > this, some maybe with AI or a human able to provide really good > descriptions / directions because of being able to use those cameras. > >> On 6/11/23, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> The price for that is crazy, I wonder how many of those Apple will sell. >> >>> On Jun 10, 2023, at 9:31 AM, Richard Turner >>> wrote: >>> >>> I'm glad they are including accessibility; but I will never spend that >>> kind of money on a toy. >>> >>> >>> >>> Richard, USA. >>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little >>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin >>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >>> >>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: OK, so Apple apparently is trying to make this accessible just as they are doing for all thei rother products. This is commendable, but we'll have to see what the reality will be like and what sort of uses this would even have for a blind person. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 11:33 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Vision Pro Headset and accessibility from Mac Rumors As Sieghard pointed out, this extremely expensive toy will not be available until 2024. If you want to learn more about it, Mac Rumors has an article with links to the developer session spelling out the accessibility features. Here is that link, with other links to the WWDC session on that page. https://www.macrumors.com/2023/06/07/apple-vision-pro-accessibility-features/ HTH, Richard, USA. “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001201d99b00%24da515990%248ef40cb0%24%40comcast.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB565637E69D93A1B963F8AA16C756A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>> list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please
Re: Printing out checks from your phone
When I need to send a paper check to someone I use the free bill pay service offered by both my bank and brokerage. I type the payee’s name, address and telephone number. I can also add an account number. The service prints it as a check, places it into an envelope, adds a stamp, and mails the check. Kelly On 6/11/23, Kathy Brandt wrote: > In case of interest: a question from another list about accessible check > writing programs prompted me to look at what might be in the app store, > given it is getting harder to replace typewriter ribbons. Among other > offerings I found something called Check Writer. You have to work in > landscape mode. You can put in account information to save as a default, > save what you’ve done to checkbook, and when you put in the numerical > amount, the way it is supposed to be in words is done automatically. > Extraneous odd characters at first word generated, but there was a place in > settings to delete those, so, making up a fake account, I got the > verification that what I am producing looks like an actual check. Now it > remains to see how this works with the options of check stock paper That you > have to use to be excepted by a bank. Wondered if any of you had experience > with Check Writer or any similar apps. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/C2A7F26C-1989-41CE-8CB2-7A028A1FC33A%40gmail.com. > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAOQRLb_d-okjS%3DTLtA0k6Pnwq3eMh0UDHsteDWXHvLgeUVE01w%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: Vision Pro Headset and accessibility from Mac Rumors
You call it a toy, but what if Aira or some other app could take advantage of those cameras? I can see some really good use cases for this, some maybe with AI or a human able to provide really good descriptions / directions because of being able to use those cameras. On 6/11/23, Mike Arrigo wrote: > The price for that is crazy, I wonder how many of those Apple will sell. > >> On Jun 10, 2023, at 9:31 AM, Richard Turner >> wrote: >> >> I'm glad they are including accessibility; but I will never spend that >> kind of money on a toy. >> >> >> >> Richard, USA. >> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little >> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin >> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >> >> >>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>> >>> OK, so Apple apparently is trying to make this accessible just as they >>> are doing for all thei rother products. This is commendable, but we'll >>> have to see what the reality will be like and what sort of uses this >>> would even have for a blind person. >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >>> Richard Turner >>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 11:33 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Vision Pro Headset and accessibility from Mac Rumors >>> As Sieghard pointed out, this extremely expensive toy will not be >>> available until 2024. >>> If you want to learn more about it, Mac Rumors has an article with links >>> to the developer session spelling out the accessibility features. >>> Here is that link, with other links to the WWDC session on that page. >>> >>> https://www.macrumors.com/2023/06/07/apple-vision-pro-accessibility-features/ >>> HTH, >>> Richard, USA. >>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with >>> it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the >>> Universe >>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>> list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001201d99b00%24da515990%248ef40cb0%24%40comcast.net. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>> list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB565637E69D93A1B963F8AA16C756A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2FE0C5C6-D2EF-4DF3-83DB-C25C6DC454C6%40comcast.net. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of
Printing out checks from your phone
In case of interest: a question from another list about accessible check writing programs prompted me to look at what might be in the app store, given it is getting harder to replace typewriter ribbons. Among other offerings I found something called Check Writer. You have to work in landscape mode. You can put in account information to save as a default, save what you’ve done to checkbook, and when you put in the numerical amount, the way it is supposed to be in words is done automatically. Extraneous odd characters at first word generated, but there was a place in settings to delete those, so, making up a fake account, I got the verification that what I am producing looks like an actual check. Now it remains to see how this works with the options of check stock paper That you have to use to be excepted by a bank. Wondered if any of you had experience with Check Writer or any similar apps. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/C2A7F26C-1989-41CE-8CB2-7A028A1FC33A%40gmail.com.
Reminders in iOS 17 Realizes It's The Best Shopping List, 9 to 5 Mac
Friday, June 9, 2023 at 2:01 PM Reminders in iOS 17 realizes it's the best shopping list Reminders has been my one true shopping list since it landed on the iPhone in iOS 5. In iOS 17, the app fully embraces that part of its identity. Second only to controlling media on HomePod, my main Siri usage over the years has been adding items to my shopping list. "Hey Siri, add [whatever I need] to the shopping list." The only hiccup I've ever faced is when Siri started responding by saying it added an item to my "shopping list-list." I changed the list name to just shopping as a fix. Oh, and I've recently had to tango with Personal Requests and voice identification on the HomePod. Whatever I needed to remember when that happened got forgotten. I love the simple integration with Siri and having Reminders on every Apple device. Being able to share a shopping list with others can also be useful. More recently, Reminders has added templates support so can always start with the same list if you haven't shopped in a while. There's also an option to print a shopping list if you prefer digital input and a traditional list in the supermarket. Reminders learns a new trick specific to shopping lists in iOS 17, iPadOS 17, watchOS 10, and macOS Sonoma. "Grocery Lists automatically sort items into categories to make shopping easier," says Apple. "Change how items are grouped, and the list remembers your preferences." I wondered how this feature worked before poking around in the app. My guess was that maybe I needed to rename my list from Shopping to Grocery List. Fortunately, it's a little more clever. Any list can be considered a grocery list. That's useful if you have lists for different stores and still want automatic sorting. Reminders now lets you assign a list type: standard or groceries. This is done with the three-dot circle button in the top right corner of the list on iPhone and iPad. Tap the Show List Info button from the popover menu to access list type. Mac users can find list type while viewing the list from View and Show List Info from the menu bar. Set your list type to grocery, and the rest is magic. Adding common grocery items will automatically categorize them in groups so shopping is made easier. Optionally, you can rearrange categories manually in case you want to match the order to match your store. You can also add new categories or switch to a new column layout view that groups categories vertically. In the first beta release, iOS 17 includes these grocery categories: beverages; produce; meat; frozen foods; wine, beer, and spirits; breads and cereals; pasta, rice, and beans; dairy, eggs, and cheese; sauces and condiments; personal care and health; and household items. By default, Reminders will hide any categories that don't include at least one item. You can turn that off if you prefer to see each category when planning your shopping trip. If Reminders doesn't recognize where an item belongs, it will group it in a category called Other. You can manually drag items out of Other to sort them where they belong. There's also an option to create your own categories. Just don't expect sorting to work automatically. I tested this by creating a category called art supplies and adding paint brush to the shopping list. It lands in Other but can be sorted to the right list manually. Categories are synced and supported on each version of the Reminders app. The only limitation is no column support on Apple Watch, but that's reasonable. In my testing, automatic sorting mostly worked as expected. Orange juice went to beverages, tooth brush went to personal care, and trash bags went to household items. It's the items that don't get sorted that exposes the feature's limitations. For example, "tooth paste" doesn't get sorted but "toothpaste" does. AA batteries, candles, and Windex all end up unsorted by default. Another funny behavior is acetone (fingernail polish remover) ends up on the wine, beer, and spirits list. Take my advice: That's no way to start the weekend. All in all, iOS 17 treats Reminders well for folks like me who rely on it for managing a shopping list. The software is currently in beta and officially comes out in the fall. Original Article at: https://9to5mac.com/2023/06/09/ios-17-reminders-groceries/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group
tvOS 17 Helps You Hear What People Are Saying in Shows, When Using HomePods as Speakers, 9 to 5 Mac
Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 7:04 AM tvOS 17 helps you hear what people are saying in shows, when using HomePods as speakers A common complaint of late is that it's hard to hear people in TV shows and movies these days, with character voices buried behind the cacophony of sound effects and background music found in modern productions. One of the smaller changes coming in tvOS 17 is an audio enhancement option to help mitigate these cases, available for users of Apple TV 4K with paired HomePod speaker setups. This feature is exclusive to Apple TV 4K with home theater audio mode using HomePod (second-generation) speakers. It is not offered for the original HomePod or HomePod mini (probably because the single speaker design cannot sufficiently render different output channels). It also appears to only be available with apps that use the standard system video player. You activate it through the Sound menu above the progress bar, with the Enhance Dialogue option next to the long-standing Reduce Loud Sounds option. Apple says enabling the Enhance Dialogue option analyzes audio being played and separates the actors' speech from effects and background music, "bringing dialogue forward to the center channel". If you want to try out this feature right now, you will need to install the tvOS beta on Apple TV and install the HomePod beta (which necessitates installing a limited distribution AppleSeed profile). Otherwise, wait until the fall when these new OS's ship to all customers. Other Apple TV software features coming this year include FaceTime via Continuity Camera, redesigned Control Center, third-party VPN support and more. Original Article at: https://9to5mac.com/2023/06/11/tvos-17-dialogue-enhance-homepod/ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001801d99ccb%24c6e2d970%2454a88c50%24%40ucla.edu.
Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
Well the fact that it could be worth nothing in a few years is the risk I will take by doing this. I am ok with that, It's one of the things that happens with investing. On 6/11/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have done well with Apple stock, since I bought it in either 2017 or 2018, > and the thing that really helped is that it split four to one. So I have > four times as many shares as I once had, and if it keeps climbing like it is > now, it will soon reach $204, which is what I paid for that original 50. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2023 2:27 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list? > > Buying one as an investment might not be a bad idea, just make sure you > never even crack the seal of the box. Considering a few original iPhones in > that condition sold for between $40,000 and $65,000 after what, 16 years or > so, not bad. > The original iPhone cost $499 or $599 back in 2007 depending on > configuration, so even if you paid $599 and you sold it for about $40,000 > after 16 years that would mean an interest rate of 30% compounded annually. > Of course nobody could have predicted that and I just read that if you had > bought $3,000 worth of Apple stock in January of 2007 when Steve Jobs > announced the iPhone, that would be worth over $139,000 today, also a pretty > good investment and at a little over 27% interest compounded annually not > far behind what you could have made if you still had an unopened original > iPhone. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > lenron brown > Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 6:42 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list? > > lmao this is only the first gen relax. People talked the same trash about > the IPhone and now they sell like hotcakes. I am sure the price will come > down over time and this will be refined into one badass device. I plan on > buying one of these and holding on to it as a collectors item. Who knows > what it will be in 10 years. I personally am hoping for a dive pod to really > get full emersion. > > On 6/10/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote: >> From one having a few Apple shares, I hope that people buy those >> headsets like crazy, but for me, not happening. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain >> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:35 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list? >> >> There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never >> spend money on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't. >> I just don't tend to project my financial circumstances and interest >> in certain products on others. There's simply too much for me to worry >> about than how much money others are spending on something. >> >> It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, >> weight and battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit >> the blind, but isn't that true of a lot of new technology? I still >> remember a lot of what was said about the iPhone when it first came >> out, and look how it has changed the lives of everyone, including the >> blind. I don't think the price has really come down much though, and >> of course some may claim it hasn't changed our lives for the good, but >> it definitely isn't the product everyone thought it was when it was >> introduced. >> >> -- >> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ >> Chaltain at Outlook, USA >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Joshua Hendrickson >> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list? >> >> My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things. First, the >> cost, I have bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life. I have >> them all, bose nc700, sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the >> big ones. >> And ones from AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones. >> I'd never pay $3500 for any headset, I don't care how good it is. >> Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay that in a second for a beautiful hd28 >> martin guitar. >> Next, is the battery life. The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery >> life. >> That is way to few hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot. >> You might watch one full movie with the headset on, but nothing else. >> I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro max. >> >> On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay wrote: >>> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your >>> money. >>> >>> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote: I have zero interest in this headset Sent from my iPhone SE 3 > On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
I have done well with Apple stock, since I bought it in either 2017 or 2018, and the thing that really helped is that it split four to one. So I have four times as many shares as I once had, and if it keeps climbing like it is now, it will soon reach $204, which is what I paid for that original 50. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2023 2:27 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list? Buying one as an investment might not be a bad idea, just make sure you never even crack the seal of the box. Considering a few original iPhones in that condition sold for between $40,000 and $65,000 after what, 16 years or so, not bad. The original iPhone cost $499 or $599 back in 2007 depending on configuration, so even if you paid $599 and you sold it for about $40,000 after 16 years that would mean an interest rate of 30% compounded annually. Of course nobody could have predicted that and I just read that if you had bought $3,000 worth of Apple stock in January of 2007 when Steve Jobs announced the iPhone, that would be worth over $139,000 today, also a pretty good investment and at a little over 27% interest compounded annually not far behind what you could have made if you still had an unopened original iPhone. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of lenron brown Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 6:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list? lmao this is only the first gen relax. People talked the same trash about the IPhone and now they sell like hotcakes. I am sure the price will come down over time and this will be refined into one badass device. I plan on buying one of these and holding on to it as a collectors item. Who knows what it will be in 10 years. I personally am hoping for a dive pod to really get full emersion. On 6/10/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote: > From one having a few Apple shares, I hope that people buy those > headsets like crazy, but for me, not happening. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:35 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list? > > There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never > spend money on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't. > I just don't tend to project my financial circumstances and interest > in certain products on others. There's simply too much for me to worry > about than how much money others are spending on something. > > It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, > weight and battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit > the blind, but isn't that true of a lot of new technology? I still > remember a lot of what was said about the iPhone when it first came > out, and look how it has changed the lives of everyone, including the > blind. I don't think the price has really come down much though, and > of course some may claim it hasn't changed our lives for the good, but > it definitely isn't the product everyone thought it was when it was > introduced. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ > Chaltain at Outlook, USA > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Joshua Hendrickson > Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list? > > My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things. First, the > cost, I have bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life. I have > them all, bose nc700, sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big > ones. > And ones from AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones. > I'd never pay $3500 for any headset, I don't care how good it is. > Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay that in a second for a beautiful hd28 > martin guitar. > Next, is the battery life. The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life. > That is way to few hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot. > You might watch one full movie with the headset on, but nothing else. > I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro max. > > On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay wrote: >> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money. >> >> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote: >>> I have zero interest in this headset >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3 >>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire, and we are all worried about
RE: Emoji's
I was in the message area, and did not get one in there. I think, now, though, that I will be able to do that. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Gallik Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 9:46 PM To: viPhone Subject: Re: Emoji's Well Ms. Arnold; I have to ask, exactly what did you do to place an Emoji into your text? I assume you were in the “Message area” of the text when you tried to include an Emoji. And, of course, you activated the “Emoji button.” At that point, you would select the Emoji(s) you wanted to include in your message and double tap each one as it was selected. You should have found said Emojis were included in you text. BTW: Emojis can be included in any of the “text edit fields” one might encounter on an iPhone. I use them quite liberally in Notes, Mail () and other apps that deploy the on-screen keyboard. - Bill from Bayfield County, Wisconsin - "A dreamer is one who can only find his way by moonlight," - "and his punishment is that he sees the dawn before the rest of the world." - Oscar Wilde > On Jun 10, 2023, at 11:46 AM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > This morning, I typed a text on my screen, brought up emoji's, but > never could get one on the message. > > So, what, exactly to I do to accomplish this? -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DD468A9C-8F46-48B8-BCFE-4C896E9C1720%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/299401d99c93%24622a86a0%24267f93e0%24%40gmail.com.
RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
I do think that they will come down like everything else does. Remember, when a 42 inch TV was about $4,000? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of lenron brown Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 9:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list? lmao this is only the first gen relax. People talked the same trash about the IPhone and now they sell like hotcakes. I am sure the price will come down over time and this will be refined into one badass device. I plan on buying one of these and holding on to it as a collectors item. Who knows what it will be in 10 years. I personally am hoping for a dive pod to really get full emersion. On 6/10/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote: > From one having a few Apple shares, I hope that people buy those > headsets like crazy, but for me, not happening. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:35 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list? > > There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never > spend money on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't. > I just don't tend to project my financial circumstances and interest > in certain products on others. There's simply too much for me to worry > about than how much money others are spending on something. > > It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, > weight and battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit > the blind, but isn't that true of a lot of new technology? I still > remember a lot of what was said about the iPhone when it first came > out, and look how it has changed the lives of everyone, including the > blind. I don't think the price has really come down much though, and > of course some may claim it hasn't changed our lives for the good, but > it definitely isn't the product everyone thought it was when it was > introduced. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ > Chaltain at Outlook, USA > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Joshua Hendrickson > Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list? > > My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things. First, the > cost, I have bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life. I have > them all, bose nc700, sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big > ones. > And ones from AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones. > I'd never pay $3500 for any headset, I don't care how good it is. > Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay that in a second for a beautiful hd28 > martin guitar. > Next, is the battery life. The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life. > That is way to few hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot. > You might watch one full movie with the headset on, but nothing else. > I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro max. > > On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay wrote: >> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money. >> >> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote: >>> I have zero interest in this headset >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3 >>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire, and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some people will not appreciate that message. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain > > wrote: > > For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now, > I wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone > has the resources and the interest then I say great and more power > to them! > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ > Chaltain at Outlook, USA > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On > Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold > Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list? > > Amen to that, Richard! > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > On Behalf Of Richard Turner > Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list? > > For $3500 I
Re: Vision Pro Headset and accessibility from Mac Rumors
The price for that is crazy, I wonder how many of those Apple will sell. > On Jun 10, 2023, at 9:31 AM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > I'm glad they are including accessibility; but I will never spend that kind > of money on a toy. > > > > Richard, USA. > “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little > consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > > >> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> >> OK, so Apple apparently is trying to make this accessible just as they are >> doing for all thei rother products. This is commendable, but we'll have to >> see what the reality will be like and what sort of uses this would even have >> for a blind person. >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Richard Turner >> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 11:33 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Vision Pro Headset and accessibility from Mac Rumors >> As Sieghard pointed out, this extremely expensive toy will not be >> available until 2024. >> If you want to learn more about it, Mac Rumors has an article with links to >> the developer session spelling out the accessibility features. >> Here is that link, with other links to the WWDC session on that page. >> >> https://www.macrumors.com/2023/06/07/apple-vision-pro-accessibility-features/ >> HTH, >> Richard, USA. >> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” >> -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe >> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001201d99b00%24da515990%248ef40cb0%24%40comcast.net. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB565637E69D93A1B963F8AA16C756A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2FE0C5C6-D2EF-4DF3-83DB-C25C6DC454C6%40comcast.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara
Re: Emoji's
Hello, If you never went to settings, general, keyboard and memojis you should go there and turn off memojis. It will be easier. After, when you will go to emoji keyboard you will find all categories at bottom and emojis will be there by Colins Lyne > Le 11 juin 2023 à 13:40, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> a écrit : > I was in the message, had typed the text. I got to Emoji's, Categories, but, > then from there, I was stumped. Thanks. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Bill Gallik > Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 9:46 PM > To: viPhone > Subject: Re: Emoji's > > Well Ms. Arnold; I have to ask, exactly what did you do to place an Emoji > into your text? > > I assume you were in the “Message area” of the text when you tried to include > an Emoji. And, of course, you activated the “Emoji button.” > > At that point, you would select the Emoji(s) you wanted to include in your > message and double tap each one as it was selected. You should have found > said Emojis were included in you text. > > BTW: Emojis can be included in any of the “text edit fields” one might > encounter on an iPhone. I use them quite liberally in Notes, Mail () and > other apps that deploy the on-screen keyboard. > > > - Bill from Bayfield County, Wisconsin > - "A dreamer is one who can only find his way by moonlight," > - "and his punishment is that he sees the dawn before the rest of the world." > - Oscar Wilde > > >> On Jun 10, 2023, at 11:46 AM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> This morning, I typed a text on my screen, brought up emoji's, but >> never could get one on the message. >> >> So, what, exactly to I do to accomplish this? > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DD468A9C-8F46-48B8-BCFE-4C896E9C1720%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/269201d99c8b%24bce56e00%2436b04a00%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A3302DE3-6DB8-443E-BB53-69F9050A1060%40gmail.com.
RE: Emoji's
I was in the message, had typed the text. I got to Emoji's, Categories, but, then from there, I was stumped. Thanks. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Gallik Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 9:46 PM To: viPhone Subject: Re: Emoji's Well Ms. Arnold; I have to ask, exactly what did you do to place an Emoji into your text? I assume you were in the “Message area” of the text when you tried to include an Emoji. And, of course, you activated the “Emoji button.” At that point, you would select the Emoji(s) you wanted to include in your message and double tap each one as it was selected. You should have found said Emojis were included in you text. BTW: Emojis can be included in any of the “text edit fields” one might encounter on an iPhone. I use them quite liberally in Notes, Mail () and other apps that deploy the on-screen keyboard. - Bill from Bayfield County, Wisconsin - "A dreamer is one who can only find his way by moonlight," - "and his punishment is that he sees the dawn before the rest of the world." - Oscar Wilde > On Jun 10, 2023, at 11:46 AM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > This morning, I typed a text on my screen, brought up emoji's, but > never could get one on the message. > > So, what, exactly to I do to accomplish this? -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DD468A9C-8F46-48B8-BCFE-4C896E9C1720%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/269201d99c8b%24bce56e00%2436b04a00%24%40gmail.com.
RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
And just to add this, if you buy one of these first VR headsets for $3,500 they may also very well be worth $100 in 15 years. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 11:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list? Buying one as an investment might not be a bad idea, just make sure you never even crack the seal of the box. Considering a few original iPhones in that condition sold for between $40,000 and $65,000 after what, 16 years or so, not bad. The original iPhone cost $499 or $599 back in 2007 depending on configuration, so even if you paid $599 and you sold it for about $40,000 after 16 years that would mean an interest rate of 30% compounded annually. Of course nobody could have predicted that and I just read that if you had bought $3,000 worth of Apple stock in January of 2007 when Steve Jobs announced the iPhone, that would be worth over $139,000 today, also a pretty good investment and at a little over 27% interest compounded annually not far behind what you could have made if you still had an unopened original iPhone. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of lenron brown Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 6:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list? lmao this is only the first gen relax. People talked the same trash about the IPhone and now they sell like hotcakes. I am sure the price will come down over time and this will be refined into one badass device. I plan on buying one of these and holding on to it as a collectors item. Who knows what it will be in 10 years. I personally am hoping for a dive pod to really get full emersion. On 6/10/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote: > From one having a few Apple shares, I hope that people buy those > headsets like crazy, but for me, not happening. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:35 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list? > > There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never > spend money on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't. > I just don't tend to project my financial circumstances and interest > in certain products on others. There's simply too much for me to worry > about than how much money others are spending on something. > > It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, > weight and battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit > the blind, but isn't that true of a lot of new technology? I still > remember a lot of what was said about the iPhone when it first came > out, and look how it has changed the lives of everyone, including the > blind. I don't think the price has really come down much though, and > of course some may claim it hasn't changed our lives for the good, but > it definitely isn't the product everyone thought it was when it was > introduced. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ > Chaltain at Outlook, USA > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Joshua Hendrickson > Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list? > > My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things. First, the > cost, I have bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life. I have > them all, bose nc700, sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big > ones. > And ones from AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones. > I'd never pay $3500 for any headset, I don't care how good it is. > Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay that in a second for a beautiful hd28 > martin guitar. > Next, is the battery life. The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life. > That is way to few hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot. > You might watch one full movie with the headset on, but nothing else. > I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro max. > > On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay wrote: >> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money. >> >> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote: >>> I have zero interest in this headset >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3 >>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire, and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some people will not appreciate that
RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
Buying one as an investment might not be a bad idea, just make sure you never even crack the seal of the box. Considering a few original iPhones in that condition sold for between $40,000 and $65,000 after what, 16 years or so, not bad. The original iPhone cost $499 or $599 back in 2007 depending on configuration, so even if you paid $599 and you sold it for about $40,000 after 16 years that would mean an interest rate of 30% compounded annually. Of course nobody could have predicted that and I just read that if you had bought $3,000 worth of Apple stock in January of 2007 when Steve Jobs announced the iPhone, that would be worth over $139,000 today, also a pretty good investment and at a little over 27% interest compounded annually not far behind what you could have made if you still had an unopened original iPhone. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of lenron brown Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 6:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list? lmao this is only the first gen relax. People talked the same trash about the IPhone and now they sell like hotcakes. I am sure the price will come down over time and this will be refined into one badass device. I plan on buying one of these and holding on to it as a collectors item. Who knows what it will be in 10 years. I personally am hoping for a dive pod to really get full emersion. On 6/10/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote: > From one having a few Apple shares, I hope that people buy those > headsets like crazy, but for me, not happening. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:35 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list? > > There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never > spend money on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't. > I just don't tend to project my financial circumstances and interest > in certain products on others. There's simply too much for me to worry > about than how much money others are spending on something. > > It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, > weight and battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit > the blind, but isn't that true of a lot of new technology? I still > remember a lot of what was said about the iPhone when it first came > out, and look how it has changed the lives of everyone, including the > blind. I don't think the price has really come down much though, and > of course some may claim it hasn't changed our lives for the good, but > it definitely isn't the product everyone thought it was when it was > introduced. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ > Chaltain at Outlook, USA > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Joshua Hendrickson > Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list? > > My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things. First, the > cost, I have bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life. I have > them all, bose nc700, sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big > ones. > And ones from AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones. > I'd never pay $3500 for any headset, I don't care how good it is. > Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay that in a second for a beautiful hd28 > martin guitar. > Next, is the battery life. The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life. > That is way to few hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot. > You might watch one full movie with the headset on, but nothing else. > I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro max. > > On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay wrote: >> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money. >> >> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote: >>> I have zero interest in this headset >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3 >>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire, and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some people will not appreciate that message. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain > > wrote: > > For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now, > I wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone > has the resources and the interest then I say
