RE: The next generation of Speech Central has been launched

[Mohammad Fazil]

Is Speech Central free?
Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2024 1:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The next generation of Speech Central has been launched

Ivan,
I simplified what you said but did not misquote you.
Since Mary to whom I address my comments is on this same list, she will likely 
have read your full explanation of your situation with bookshare and how you 
had supported it, etc.

It seems like I cannot say anything about your app other than undaunted praise 
without your taking offense.

Since you also cannot be bothered to explain your process of getting bookshare 
booksinto your app, then I guess I don’t need to give it an honest try.
I was willing to do that.

Richard, USA
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Ivan 
Icin
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2024 1:36 PM
To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: The next generation of Speech Central has been launched

Richard,

I am not sure if you misquote me intentionally or unintentionally.

Either way, the correct fact is that I have supported Bookshare for 7 years. 
All of the users of the app together in December 2024 downloaded 10 books from 
Bookshare. Yes that is less of work to download those ten book for those 10 
users ( than for me to write the support for Bookshare (and I would quickly 
remind you on your statements on how much support is expensive for one app that 
you love and how they need to charge immense amount for that).

I am not sure how you can blame me for Speech Central users (including if you 
make the subgroup of VoiceOver users only) highly prefer to use PDFs, ePubs, 
web and almost everything else except books from Bookshare. I did spend my 
effort on non-profit basis for 7 years to support those people even if their 
volume of usage wasn't something that justified the support. I would imagine 
that this deserves some words like "thank you" or something similar. What 
exactly did I do wrong?

Further I think that at the moment if someone is to be blamed it is Bookshare 
as they do allow downloads from the website, but don't implement the share 
function in their Reader app which would make importing into any app a piece of 
cake. No need for any app in this world to write the support for Bookshare as 
every app would support Bookshare.
On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 10:21:59 PM UTC+1 Richard Turner wrote:
I just downloaded it to try and immediately found out that to install books 
from bookshare you have to download the DAISY file and import it because the 
developer decided that customers could download the ten books per month that 
way rather than him having to take the time to program for their interface ...
BTW, did you try the update to VDR today to see if it fixed your download issue?

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 31, 2024, at 12:47 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:mott...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I just saw this on Apple viz.. Has anyone actually used this app? I had it on 
android and frankly couldn’t figure out how to use it or what it would be good 
for. But I’m not God’s gift to android that’s for sure. So I want to know if 
there are voice dream users out there using iPhones who have use this app. I’m 
not interested in hearing from the developer. I already saw his propaganda. I 
want real world users commenting. Thanks.
The next generation of Speech Central has been launched
AppleVis | Empowering blind and low-vision users of Apple products ...  /  
Labsii

Forum
iOS and iPadOS

As the app was in the beta testing for more than two months some people may 
already know what the new version is about.

But during the beta period features were not publicly announced, that has 
happened for the first time just few days ago on the App Store.

This isn't just another update. It isn't even another big update. And it is 
hard to provide the comparison, but if you take any of the competing apps and 
their cumulative updates in the last 5 years the shear size doesn't even come 
close to this.

The full list improvements would require more than 1000 lines of text to tell. 
If we talk about new features, that would be still in hundreds of lines. Even 
major features are well above dozen of bullet lines.

So I would like to focus on just one thing that reveals all the magic behind 
the effort - the new Emulate book narration mode. This feature brings quite a 
bit of the soul to robotic voices. Check this benchmark using the Apple's Ava 
Premium voice on the same text in Speech Central and Voice Dream: 
https://youtu.be/lCbr8HqXUCc

Also you can check the same 

Re: The next generation of Speech Central has been launched

[Ivan Icin]

Sieghard,

I completely share your opinion and I would write almost the same. There 
are three points that I would like to add:

1. Speech Central is not a copycat of Voice Dream and some blind people 
prefer the concepts behind it. Even when it was paid and less fully 
featured and people owned Voice Dream license some decided that Speech 
Central worked better for them. And it is individual so I can't say to 
anyone if they are in this group or not, I can only suggest everyone to try 
as it is free.

2. It doesn't need to be all or nothing. Speech Central has multiple 
functions that Voice Dream doesn't have. One of the most used among blind 
people is to export audio files. So some people use both apps and use 
Speech Central for things like this.

3. the latest update of Speech Central is a game changer however. Now Voice 
Dream is literally one generation behind. I did provide the video that 
lasts 1 minute and which audio recording of both apps reading the same text 
clearly documents that, but some people opted not to open it and to talk 
negative to Speech Central. Huge majority of people that talk negatively on 
Speech Central openly admit that they have never invested few minutes to 
try the app themselves, which is quite telling.

On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 9:05:15 AM UTC+1 Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

> It is my understanding that Speech Central is free whereas Voice Dream 
> reader is only free to long-time users, but that that also may not be 
> written in stone.
>
> If you suddenly had to pay say $60 or $80 a year for Voice Dream Reader 
> and Speech central were available as a free alternative, what would be your 
> choice?
>
> I guess still some who have no problems with affording $60 or $80 a year 
> would still continue with Voice Dream Reader since it is what they are used 
> to. It is the same thing with Jaws and NVDA, the latter is free and from 
> all I hear, it is by now a very good and advanced screenreader which in 
> some cases does a better job than Jaws. But still many people pay their 
> annual subscrition or SMA every 2 years for Jaws (I am one of them since 
> after almost 35 years Jaws is in my blood so to speak).
>
> And here is one other example, audio books. There are free sources for 
> audio books especially for the blind, yet I choose to pay my annual 
> subscription for 24 books from Audible and I buy dozens more each year, 
> just about all of these extra books I buy from the daily deal where they 
> cost mostly between $2.99 and $4.99 or I buy them when they have a sale 
> with a few hundred titles for a $4.99 or $5.99 price. But still, I spend 
> probably $400 or $500 on audio books each year, but I simply like the 
> convenience and easy of use the audible app gives me and how quick and easy 
> it is to buy a book.
>
>  
>
> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of 
> *Duane 
> Steele
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 31, 2024 1:59 PM
> *To:* vip...@googlegroups.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: The next generation of Speech Central has been launched
>
>  
>
> Hello Listers,
>
>  
>
> After reading the latest AppleVis entry about speech central, I'm puzzled. 
> Having been a Voice Dream user since its initial launch, and following its 
> changes and updates to the present, I'm really not convinced about Speech 
> Central. It's so easy to load Voice Dream content, and PDF documents read 
> well. My question is: What would make me even want to try any other 
> program? I don't ask this question to invoke controversy, but to learn why 
> some would prefer any other program over Voice Dream. If, at some point, 
> another program is more efficient than Voice Dream, I'll certainly jump on 
> that proverbial "band wagon". For now, I'm just wondering... and exploring. 
> Thanks.
>
>  
>
> +Peace & Blessings,
>
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
>
> Phone (276) 730-5194
>
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2024, at 4:36 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>
> I have downloaded the update, but I have not yet downloaded any more 
> books. I downloaded several recently, and after a lot of missing around and 
> reporting to the developers, they all loaded. I still don’t know why, but 
> now I have all these books and a couple of them I need to get read by the 
> weekend for stuff. But I’m definitely going to try it. If it works, 
> awesome. I am not at all excited about having to go through a big process 
> to get books share books into an app. Thumbs down. Unless Voice Dream just 
> turns into an absolute piece of junk, I’ll deal with it rather than have to 
> deal with a convoluted process for just accessing books. In my opinion, 
> that was not a good decision the developer of this app speech Central made. 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2024, at 1:21 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>
> I just downloaded it to try and immediately found out that to install 
> books from bookshare you have to download the DAISY file and import it 
> because the developer decided that customers could download the ten books 
> 

Re: Esim and voiceover

[Afik Souffir]

What iscEM?
And if you just want to setup esim on your current device?

On 5 Feb 2024, at 4:03, joseph hudson  wrote:

Sharon America, there's no scanning a QR code for an eSIM. It's a simple as if 
you already have an EM, you bring the two phones close to each other, and you 
are allow the EM to be transferred from one to the other. When you first sign 
in with the new phone.
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On Feb 4, 2024, at 4:50 PM, Afik Souffir  wrote:

Hi

When you want to do an esim connection, how to scan the QR code with VoiceOver?
Thanks much
Afik

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Re: Changing Default Photo Format

[Mike B.]

Hi Rob,

Thank you very much.  Damn, I was opening the Camera from the Home Screen 
icon instead of opening the Camera app!  What a dumb ass!  LOL
Thanks again for getting my dumb ass to the right place!

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: Rob Armstrong
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2024 2:05 PM
Subject: RE: Changing Default Photo Format


Go to Settings > Camera > Formats.



Look under the Camera Capture heading.

Double-tap “Most compatible” to change the capture format from High 
efficiency to Most compatible.

Rob



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2024 4:39 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Changing Default Photo Format



Hi All,



Running iOS17.3 on an SE2022 iPhone.  My wife took a couple of pictures and 
sent to them to me to upload, but when I received them they were, .HEIC 
format, and I had to download a program to my PC to change the format to, 
.JPEG, before they seen on my PC.



So, how do we change the default photo format back to .JPEG?  I don't know 
when the format switched to this .HEIC format, but I do not like it at all. 
I opened the camera and didn't find the old format option.  Does anyone know 
how we can switch back to the .JPEG format?  All help is greatly 
appreciated.  Thanks much.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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Re: Esim and voiceover

[joseph hudson]

Sharon America, there's no scanning a QR code for an eSIM. It's a simple as if 
you already have an EM, you bring the two phones close to each other, and you 
are allow the EM to be transferred from one to the other. When you first sign 
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> On Feb 4, 2024, at 4:50 PM, Afik Souffir  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> When you want to do an esim connection, how to scan the QR code with 
> VoiceOver?
> Thanks much
> Afik
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Esim and voiceover

[Afik Souffir]

Hi

When you want to do an esim connection, how to scan the QR code with VoiceOver?
Thanks much
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RE: Changing Default Photo Format

[Rob Armstrong]

Go to Settings > Camera > Formats.

 

Look under the Camera Capture heading.

Double-tap “Most compatible” to change the capture format from High efficiency 
to Most compatible.

Rob

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2024 4:39 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Changing Default Photo Format

 

Hi All,

 

Running iOS17.3 on an SE2022 iPhone.  My wife took a couple of pictures and 
sent to them to me to upload, but when I received them they were, .HEIC format, 
and I had to download a program to my PC to change the format to, .JPEG, before 
they seen on my PC.

 

So, how do we change the default photo format back to .JPEG?  I don't know when 
the format switched to this .HEIC format, but I do not like it at all.  I 
opened the camera and didn't find the old format option.  Does anyone know how 
we can switch back to the .JPEG format?  All help is greatly appreciated.  
Thanks much.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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Changing Default Photo Format

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

Running iOS17.3 on an SE2022 iPhone.  My wife took a couple of pictures and 
sent to them to me to upload, but when I received them they were, .HEIC 
format, and I had to download a program to my PC to change the format to, 
.JPEG, before they seen on my PC.

So, how do we change the default photo format back to .JPEG?  I don't know 
when the format switched to this .HEIC format, but I do not like it at all. 
I opened the camera and didn't find the old format option.  Does anyone know 
how we can switch back to the .JPEG format?  All help is greatly 
appreciated.  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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RE: Has there been a recent AppleViz newsletter?

[Dennis Long]

It is always on the applevis website.  You can always contact applevis and see 
if you accidently got removed some how.  Posting hear really won't help you.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Keith 
Kramlinger
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2024 3:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Has there been a recent AppleViz newsletter?

Thanks. I must not have received it this month. Any help in pointing me to how 
to obtain this would be most appreciated.
Thanks in advance. Keith


> On Feb 2, 2024, at 5:29 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Keith,
> 
> Yes, one came out on January 31 or so.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Feb 2, 2024, at 5:25 PM, Keith Kramlinger  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Has there been a recent AppleViz newsletter? I don’t recall having received 
>> one recently. I have checked both my junk folder and trash folders with no 
>> success. Maybe I received it, Reddit, and deleted it… But I’ll be darned if 
>> I can remember having done that.
>> Thanks in advance. Keith
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RE: Apple's Shazam can now identify songs playing inside other iPhone and iPad apps even while you're wearing headphones, iMore

[upliftfm]

Does anyone know if the playlist created by Shazam can be exported to  email or 
a PC?

Gordon McFarlane

 

From: VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2024 12:38 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Apple's Shazam can now identify songs playing inside other iPhone and 
iPad apps even while you're wearing headphones, iMore

 

iMore - The #1 iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch blog
Friday, January 26, 2024

Apple's Shazam can now identify songs playing inside other iPhone and iPad apps 
even while you're wearing headphones

Apple's Shazam is now better than ever.
 
Shazam has long been the go-to app for people who want to know what song 
they're listening to but now it's better than ever thanks to a new version 17.3 
update.

The new update, which is now available for download via the App Store, adds 
support for identifying songs from other apps while you're listening via 
headphones for the very first time.

The new feature comes after Shazam was already able to identify songs from 
within other apps, but it was previously only able to do so while there were no 
headphones connected, limiting the usability somewhat. With Shazam 17.3, that 
has now changed.

Music to your ears
The new update, which can be downloaded for free now, works with both wired and 
Bluetooth headphones and earbuds which means AirPods, AirPods Max, and 
third-party options are all good to go. The lack of a requirement for Apple 
accessories is something that is definitely worth noting here.
"You can now identify music while wearing headphones (wired or Bluetooth)," the 
app's release notes explain. "Simply open the app, check for the headphone icon 
to confirm your headphones are connected, and then start recognizing music 
around you or within apps like TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube."

Apple bought Shazam back in 2017 and has been steadily integrating it with iOS 
and its other software for years. The app offers multiple widgets for quick 
music identification and more, but the ability to identify music from within 
another app is a huge boon for people who hear a song in an ad or video and 
want to be able to find out what it was.

More from iMore
•Shazam — Everything you need to know!
•Shazam now works 'harder' and 'longer' to recognize the song 
that's playing
•Shazam now puts your song history in Control Center even if you 
used Siri

Original Article at:
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More with the Mac, announcement

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More with the Mac, announcement

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Re: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

[Mo Khan]

hi, which list are you looking for? david goldfield seems to have a number
of mailing lists very good some active. thank you.

On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 7:43 PM Richard  wrote:

> Don’t know if the list is still operated. Try googleing the name and see
> if there’s a page or other information about the list.
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Mária Orovcíková
> *Sent:* Friday, February 2, 2024 5:59 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list
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>
>
> Hello all,
> please, sory for off-topic question, but I don't know where to ask and
> many people who are on this list are on other lists, so I might find info
> here.
> I used to be a member of "Blindtech" list and it was pretty active,
> but all of a sudden I stopped getting mails from the list and when I tried
> to post a question, it says the group is not available any more.
> Please, does anyone know what happened and if there is any other list
> where general questions about technology can be posted?
> I liked Blindtech, it has helped me with many things.
> If you have more info, please write me at:
> maria.orovcik...@gmail.com
> Just to avoid off-topic discussion here.
> Thanks.
> Maria
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RE: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

[sherrywells1157]

I apologize if this goes to the whole list.  I tried replying directly to 
sender but viphone still showed up instead.

 

Here are a few lists that you may want to try.  

 

Bard Talk

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Blind Apples

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Blind Cord Cutters

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All things tvs

 

Blindtech Q list

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I’m not subscribed to this one myself so am not sure if it still exists.

 

Blind Users

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DB Review

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This is for book reviews of books on BARD.

 

Idevice

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For all things concerning any I device

 

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Tek Talk

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Visually Impaired Computer Users Group

 

Happy reading!

Sherry Wells

 

From: 'Tanja Biermann' via VIPhone  
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2024 3:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

 


If you guys know of other mailing lists interesting for blind / visually 
impaired people - please let me know about them. Feel free to contact me 
privately if it's too off-topic here. (Please send the subscription link 
directly in the mail - I often still have troubles in finding the correct 
details on the internet myself).

Thank you so much for your help! 

 

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RE: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

[davycuppens]

Hello 

 

If you are German, I am Belgian but speak German very well and I know some 
interesting lists in that country than write me private on davycupp...@gmail.com

 

Regards 

Davy 

 

Van: 'Tanja Biermann' via VIPhone  
Verzonden: zaterdag 3 februari 2024 21:32
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
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