Re: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel in Noisy High Traffic Areas

[Robert Doc Wright]

I am going to treasure mine as long as I can.
- Original Message - 
From: "Richard" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2024 10:14 AM
Subject: RE: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel 
in Noisy High Traffic Areas


Thanks very much. Amazon shows the Frames as out of stock. I just read that 
Bose has discontinued the Frames. See headline below.

The Bose Frames will soon be no more
/ The Frames started as an ambitious pair of audio AR sunglasses, but Bose 
is officially pulling the plug on the product line by the end of 2023.
By Victoria Song, senior reporter, The Verge,
Dec 12, 2023, 10:10 AM CST

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 7:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel 
in Noisy High Traffic Areas

I have the Open Move from Shokz, which are great, but it may be hard to get 
the volume high enough if you have a lot of ambient noise. The Bose Frames 
will also do what you want, but they'll be a bit more expensive than your 
options from Shokz. They'll give you a bit more volume. I haven't tried the 
Open Fit from Shokz, but like the Bose Frames, they direct sound into your 
ear and they're supposed to be louder than your bone conduction options. My 
next headphones will be the Open Fit.

I'm curious about your statement about damaging your hearing would be more 
likely with headphones over a speakers. Would that really make a difference? 
If the volume is loud enough to hear over the ambient noise, would it really 
make a difference if it's coming from a speaker versus a pair of open ear 
headphones? Also, since bone conduction is skipping your ears altogether, 
wouldn't they be the safest option? I don't know about any of this. I'm just 
musing.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 6:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel 
in Noisy High Traffic Areas

Sadly, with the open ear, or bone conduction headphones, the fact that they 
let the surrounding sound in, means that if the sound is really loud, you 
cannot hear the info through the earphones.
If you could, you would probably be damaging your hearing.
The Bluetooth speaker idea should work better.
I hope folks find what they need.


Richard, USA
"At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."
 -- Wolfgang Von Goethe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

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2024.2312.99

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 3:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel 
in Noisy High Traffic Areas

Alice, this sounds interesting.  Can you ask your friend what the brand of 
her speaker is?



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 3/1/2024 4:21 PM, CJ & AA MAY wrote:
> My friend has a Bluetooth speaker attached to her collar for walking 
> outdoors which she is pleased with but I don't know the make.
> Alison
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard
> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 9:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe
> Travel in Noisy High Traffic Areas
>
> I seek two-earpiece earphones I can use while walking to hear navigation 
> guidance from an iPhone app. I need earphones that will play at a high 
> volume level while I still can hear sounds from around me because I walk 
> streets with heavy traffic. A microphone isn't essential, although would 
> be a nice option. I will appreciate  recommendations from the list.
>
> The variety of different Shokz models are confusing--their advantages and 
> disadvantages. I'm open to other brands.
>
> I've used a single-ear Voyager Legend Wireless Headset (formerly 
> Plantronics), but find the volume is insufficient with high ambient noise.
>
> I will appreciate Any assistance.
>
> Richard Petty
> richard.pe...@earthlink.net
>
>
>
>
>
> I've read several messages about
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 9:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Shokz Openfit headphones
>
> The app only works with OpenFit and OPenRun Pro.  I guess that is because 
> of their newer technology.
> I have the standard OPenRun, which cost exactly half what the OprnRun Pro 
> costs.  I also have an older OpenComm headset.  I was hoping too they 
> could have extra features through the app, but they don't.
>
>
>
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God 
> stores 

RE: Kindle on ipad issue

[Richard Turner]

I just tried a couple books from my Kindle library on my iPad Mini 6 and had no 
trouble.

 

1.  which voice are you using?

2.  is that your default voice?

3.  If it is, do you have detect language on under settings, VoiceOver, speech?

4.  Which font did you change to?

I had some trouble reading with the default font, so I changed it to Open 
Dyslexic and it reads fine.

The font makes no difference to me since I am totally blind, but apparently it 
made a difference to the app..

 

 

Richard, USA

"At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."

-- Wolfgang Von Goethe 

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com/

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2024 3:53 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: Kindle on ipad issue

 

Hello list

I purchased a kindle book and I made sure that the product details state that 
text to speech and screen readers are enabled but the book does not play 
correctly on my iPad. The moment I swipe down with two fingers for continuous 
reading it sounds if there are no spaces between words and if there are strange 
sounds, like a different language. I changed the font and size of text but the 
problem continues. Has anyone encountered this or should I just return the 
book. The problem is that it is not the first time that I encounter this 
problem and it is just strange that the kindle app can not read books meant for 
kindle.

Regards

Fanus

 

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RE: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel in Noisy High Traffic Areas

[Richard]

I just ordered the Oladance OWS Pro from Amazon. Fingers crossed. Thanks for 
your recommendation.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Suzy 
Djouma
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2024 5:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel in 
Noisy High Traffic Areas

 

The Olodance Open earphones are good or I have just purchased the one more fit 
S 50.

They both have decent volumes and allow you to still hear your environment. 
They just hooked behind your ears and rest just at the entrance without 
actually going right in your ear. Hope this helps.

 

Sent from Outlook for iOS  

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Robert 
Doc Wright 
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2024 11:39:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel in 
Noisy High Traffic Areas 

 

I have what is called a neck speaker with 3d sound. It is shaped like a 
horseshoe and hangs around your neck.  it has decent volume and bass. i was 
able to use it on our noisey paratransit busses.
- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 5:00 PM
Subject: RE: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel 
in Noisy High Traffic Areas


Sadly, with the open ear, or bone conduction headphones, the fact that they 
let the surrounding sound in, means that if the sound is really loud, you 
cannot hear the info through the earphones.
If you could, you would probably be damaging your hearing.
The Bluetooth speaker idea should work better.
I hope folks find what they need.


Richard, USA
"At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."
 -- Wolfgang Von Goethe

My web site: 
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 3:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel 
in Noisy High Traffic Areas

Alice, this sounds interesting.  Can you ask your friend what the brand of 
her speaker is?



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 3/1/2024 4:21 PM, CJ & AA MAY wrote:
> My friend has a Bluetooth speaker attached to her collar for walking 
> outdoors which she is pleased with but I don't know the make.
> Alison
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard
> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 9:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel 
> in Noisy High Traffic Areas
>
> I seek two-earpiece earphones I can use while walking to hear navigation 
> guidance from an iPhone app. I need earphones that will play at a high 
> volume level while I still can hear sounds from around me because I walk 
> streets with heavy traffic. A microphone isn't essential, although would 
> be a nice option. I will appreciate  recommendations from the list.
>
> The variety of different Shokz models are confusing--their advantages and 
> disadvantages. I'm open to other brands.
>
> I've used a single-ear Voyager Legend Wireless Headset (formerly 
> Plantronics), but find the volume is insufficient with high ambient noise.
>
> I will appreciate Any assistance.
>
> Richard Petty
> richard.pe...@earthlink.net
>
>
>
>
>
> I've read several messages about
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 9:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Shokz Openfit headphones
>
> The app only works with OpenFit and OPenRun Pro.  I guess that is because 
> of their newer technology.
> I have the standard OPenRun, which cost exactly half what the OprnRun Pro 
> costs.  I also have an older OpenComm headset.  I was hoping too they 
> could have extra features through the app, but they don't.
>
>
>
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God 
> stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell 
> to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>
> My web site: 
> https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F
>   
> 

RE: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel in Noisy High Traffic Areas

[Richard]

Thanks very much. Amazon shows the Frames as out of stock. I just read that 
Bose has discontinued the Frames. See headline below.

The Bose Frames will soon be no more
/ The Frames started as an ambitious pair of audio AR sunglasses, but Bose is 
officially pulling the plug on the product line by the end of 2023.
By Victoria Song, senior reporter, The Verge, 
Dec 12, 2023, 10:10 AM CST

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 7:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel in 
Noisy High Traffic Areas

I have the Open Move from Shokz, which are great, but it may be hard to get the 
volume high enough if you have a lot of ambient noise. The Bose Frames will 
also do what you want, but they'll be a bit more expensive than your options 
from Shokz. They'll give you a bit more volume. I haven't tried the Open Fit 
from Shokz, but like the Bose Frames, they direct sound into your ear and 
they're supposed to be louder than your bone conduction options. My next 
headphones will be the Open Fit.

I'm curious about your statement about damaging your hearing would be more 
likely with headphones over a speakers. Would that really make a difference? If 
the volume is loud enough to hear over the ambient noise, would it really make 
a difference if it's coming from a speaker versus a pair of open ear 
headphones? Also, since bone conduction is skipping your ears altogether, 
wouldn't they be the safest option? I don't know about any of this. I'm just 
musing.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 6:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel in 
Noisy High Traffic Areas

Sadly, with the open ear, or bone conduction headphones, the fact that they let 
the surrounding sound in, means that if the sound is really loud, you cannot 
hear the info through the earphones.
If you could, you would probably be damaging your hearing.
The Bluetooth speaker idea should work better.
I hope folks find what they need.


Richard, USA
"At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."
 -- Wolfgang Von Goethe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155) JAWS version 2024.2312.99

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 3:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel in 
Noisy High Traffic Areas

Alice, this sounds interesting.  Can you ask your friend what the brand of her 
speaker is?



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 3/1/2024 4:21 PM, CJ & AA MAY wrote:
> My friend has a Bluetooth speaker attached to her collar for walking outdoors 
> which she is pleased with but I don't know the make.
> Alison
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard
> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 9:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe 
> Travel in Noisy High Traffic Areas
>
> I seek two-earpiece earphones I can use while walking to hear navigation 
> guidance from an iPhone app. I need earphones that will play at a high volume 
> level while I still can hear sounds from around me because I walk streets 
> with heavy traffic. A microphone isn't essential, although would be a nice 
> option. I will appreciate  recommendations from the list.
>
> The variety of different Shokz models are confusing--their advantages and 
> disadvantages. I'm open to other brands.
>
> I've used a single-ear Voyager Legend Wireless Headset (formerly 
> Plantronics), but find the volume is insufficient with high ambient noise.
>
> I will appreciate Any assistance.
>
> Richard Petty
> richard.pe...@earthlink.net
>
>
>
>
>
> I've read several messages about
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 9:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Shokz Openfit headphones
>
> The app only works with OpenFit and OPenRun Pro.  I guess that is because of 
> their newer technology.
> I have the standard OPenRun, which cost exactly half what the OprnRun Pro 
> costs.  I also have an older OpenComm headset.  I was hoping too they could 
> have extra features through the app, but they don't.
>
>
>
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>
> My web site:
> https://www.t/
> urner42.com%2F=05%7C02%7C%7Cd1d14b67f52c4c64f59808dc3a4bd2f0%7C84
> 

RE: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel in Noisy High Traffic Areas

[Richard]

Thanks to all for helpful responses.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2024 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel in 
Noisy High Traffic Areas

I have something very similar and am very pleased with it, particularly when 
playing music, but I think it would be a bit clunky to wear outdoors.
Alison


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2024 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel in 
Noisy High Traffic Areas

I have what is called a neck speaker with 3d sound. It is shaped like a 
horseshoe and hangs around your neck.  it has decent volume and bass. i was 
able to use it on our noisey paratransit busses.
- Original Message -
From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 5:00 PM
Subject: RE: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel in 
Noisy High Traffic Areas


Sadly, with the open ear, or bone conduction headphones, the fact that they let 
the surrounding sound in, means that if the sound is really loud, you cannot 
hear the info through the earphones.
If you could, you would probably be damaging your hearing.
The Bluetooth speaker idea should work better.
I hope folks find what they need.


Richard, USA
"At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."
 -- Wolfgang Von Goethe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155) JAWS version 2024.2312.99

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 3:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel in 
Noisy High Traffic Areas

Alice, this sounds interesting.  Can you ask your friend what the brand of her 
speaker is?



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 3/1/2024 4:21 PM, CJ & AA MAY wrote:
> My friend has a Bluetooth speaker attached to her collar for walking 
> outdoors which she is pleased with but I don't know the make.
> Alison
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard
> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 9:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel 
> in Noisy High Traffic Areas
>
> I seek two-earpiece earphones I can use while walking to hear navigation 
> guidance from an iPhone app. I need earphones that will play at a high 
> volume level while I still can hear sounds from around me because I walk 
> streets with heavy traffic. A microphone isn't essential, although would 
> be a nice option. I will appreciate  recommendations from the list.
>
> The variety of different Shokz models are confusing--their advantages and 
> disadvantages. I'm open to other brands.
>
> I've used a single-ear Voyager Legend Wireless Headset (formerly 
> Plantronics), but find the volume is insufficient with high ambient noise.
>
> I will appreciate Any assistance.
>
> Richard Petty
> richard.pe...@earthlink.net
>
>
>
>
>
> I've read several messages about
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 9:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Shokz Openfit headphones
>
> The app only works with OpenFit and OPenRun Pro.  I guess that is because 
> of their newer technology.
> I have the standard OPenRun, which cost exactly half what the OprnRun Pro 
> costs.  I also have an older OpenComm headset.  I was hoping too they 
> could have extra features through the app, but they don't.
>
>
>
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God 
> stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell 
> to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>
> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 
> 2024.2310.70.400
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mohib Anwar Rafay
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 7:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Shokz Openfit headphones
>
> Can I configure OpenCom in shokz app? I saw only an option to connect 
> OpenFit and no other headset.
>
> On 2/14/24, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Therein lies the limits of open air, or bone conduction headsets; if
>> you want to block out sound from around you, you have to use
>> headphones that cover your ears.  If you have lots of money to spend
>> on headphones, the Apple Airpods Max are fabulous!  But, I suspect still 
>> over $500.
>>
>> There are lots of over the ear headphones that have noise cancelation
>> at lower prices.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA
>> “Grandma always 

RE: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel in Noisy High Traffic Areas

[CJ & AA MAY]

You can find the details of the Bluetooth speaker by following this link, Lisa.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0B11LNX21/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1

It’s £78 at the moment but is usually £96.  

It’s got the volume up and down on the top, and in the middle of those is the 
on/off button.  It speaks when you power it up so you know it’s on and gives 
battery level.  It clips on to your collar, or you could attach to a rucksack 
strap, belt or waist strap etc.  
it’s about an inch across and the same in height, you can’t tell you’ve got it 
on.  Easy to use, volume is very good, my friend has used it on main roads and 
it’s great.  Connects to the phone easily, no drop-outs at all.  
My friend says she can think of no negatives to it that she can think of.

T
Alison


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RE: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel in Noisy High Traffic Areas

[CJ & AA MAY]

I have something very similar and am very pleased with it, particularly when 
playing music, but I think it would be a bit clunky to wear outdoors.
Alison


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2024 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel in 
Noisy High Traffic Areas

I have what is called a neck speaker with 3d sound. It is shaped like a 
horseshoe and hangs around your neck.  it has decent volume and bass. i was 
able to use it on our noisey paratransit busses.
- Original Message -
From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 5:00 PM
Subject: RE: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel in 
Noisy High Traffic Areas


Sadly, with the open ear, or bone conduction headphones, the fact that they let 
the surrounding sound in, means that if the sound is really loud, you cannot 
hear the info through the earphones.
If you could, you would probably be damaging your hearing.
The Bluetooth speaker idea should work better.
I hope folks find what they need.


Richard, USA
"At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."
 -- Wolfgang Von Goethe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155) JAWS version 2024.2312.99

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 3:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel in 
Noisy High Traffic Areas

Alice, this sounds interesting.  Can you ask your friend what the brand of her 
speaker is?



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 3/1/2024 4:21 PM, CJ & AA MAY wrote:
> My friend has a Bluetooth speaker attached to her collar for walking 
> outdoors which she is pleased with but I don't know the make.
> Alison
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard
> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 9:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel 
> in Noisy High Traffic Areas
>
> I seek two-earpiece earphones I can use while walking to hear navigation 
> guidance from an iPhone app. I need earphones that will play at a high 
> volume level while I still can hear sounds from around me because I walk 
> streets with heavy traffic. A microphone isn't essential, although would 
> be a nice option. I will appreciate  recommendations from the list.
>
> The variety of different Shokz models are confusing--their advantages and 
> disadvantages. I'm open to other brands.
>
> I've used a single-ear Voyager Legend Wireless Headset (formerly 
> Plantronics), but find the volume is insufficient with high ambient noise.
>
> I will appreciate Any assistance.
>
> Richard Petty
> richard.pe...@earthlink.net
>
>
>
>
>
> I've read several messages about
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 9:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Shokz Openfit headphones
>
> The app only works with OpenFit and OPenRun Pro.  I guess that is because 
> of their newer technology.
> I have the standard OPenRun, which cost exactly half what the OprnRun Pro 
> costs.  I also have an older OpenComm headset.  I was hoping too they 
> could have extra features through the app, but they don't.
>
>
>
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God 
> stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell 
> to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>
> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 
> 2024.2310.70.400
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mohib Anwar Rafay
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 7:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Shokz Openfit headphones
>
> Can I configure OpenCom in shokz app? I saw only an option to connect 
> OpenFit and no other headset.
>
> On 2/14/24, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Therein lies the limits of open air, or bone conduction headsets; if
>> you want to block out sound from around you, you have to use
>> headphones that cover your ears.  If you have lots of money to spend
>> on headphones, the Apple Airpods Max are fabulous!  But, I suspect still 
>> over $500.
>>
>> There are lots of over the ear headphones that have noise cancelation
>> at lower prices.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA
>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God
>> stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through
>> Hell to get it.”
>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>>
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>>
>> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS
>> 

Kindle on ipad issue

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
I purchased a kindle book and I made sure that the product details state
that text to speech and screen readers are enabled but the book does not
play correctly on my iPad. The moment I swipe down with two fingers for
continuous reading it sounds if there are no spaces between words and if
there are strange sounds, like a different language. I changed the font and
size of text but the problem continues. Has anyone encountered this or
should I just return the book. The problem is that it is not the first time
that I encounter this problem and it is just strange that the kindle app
can not read books meant for kindle.
Regards
Fanus

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Re: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel in Noisy High Traffic Areas

[Suzy Djouma]

The Olodance Open earphones are good or I have just purchased the one more fit 
S 50.
They both have decent volumes and allow you to still hear your environment. 
They just hooked behind your ears and rest just at the entrance without 
actually going right in your ear. Hope this helps.

Sent from Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Robert 
Doc Wright 
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2024 11:39:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel in 
Noisy High Traffic Areas

I have what is called a neck speaker with 3d sound. It is shaped like a
horseshoe and hangs around your neck.  it has decent volume and bass. i was
able to use it on our noisey paratransit busses.
- Original Message -
From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 5:00 PM
Subject: RE: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel
in Noisy High Traffic Areas


Sadly, with the open ear, or bone conduction headphones, the fact that they
let the surrounding sound in, means that if the sound is really loud, you
cannot hear the info through the earphones.
If you could, you would probably be damaging your hearing.
The Bluetooth speaker idea should work better.
I hope folks find what they need.


Richard, USA
"At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."
 -- Wolfgang Von Goethe

My web site: 
https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=05%7C02%7C%7C16e3db254699437e8adf08dc3aad6b01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638449763697866148%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C=FrvAgffLT7XfTTcWAoN5nfTd82i7nMe2FQhmjEvM4gY%3D=0

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JAWS version 2024.2312.99

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa
Belville
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 3:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel
in Noisy High Traffic Areas

Alice, this sounds interesting.  Can you ask your friend what the brand of
her speaker is?



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 3/1/2024 4:21 PM, CJ & AA MAY wrote:
> My friend has a Bluetooth speaker attached to her collar for walking
> outdoors which she is pleased with but I don't know the make.
> Alison
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard
> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 9:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel
> in Noisy High Traffic Areas
>
> I seek two-earpiece earphones I can use while walking to hear navigation
> guidance from an iPhone app. I need earphones that will play at a high
> volume level while I still can hear sounds from around me because I walk
> streets with heavy traffic. A microphone isn't essential, although would
> be a nice option. I will appreciate  recommendations from the list.
>
> The variety of different Shokz models are confusing--their advantages and
> disadvantages. I'm open to other brands.
>
> I've used a single-ear Voyager Legend Wireless Headset (formerly
> Plantronics), but find the volume is insufficient with high ambient noise.
>
> I will appreciate Any assistance.
>
> Richard Petty
> richard.pe...@earthlink.net
>
>
>
>
>
> I've read several messages about
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 9:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Shokz Openfit headphones
>
> The app only works with OpenFit and OPenRun Pro.  I guess that is because
> of their newer technology.
> I have the standard OPenRun, which cost exactly half what the OprnRun Pro
> costs.  I also have an older OpenComm headset.  I was hoping too they
> could have extra features through the app, but they don't.
>
>
>
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God
> stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell
> to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>
> My web site: 
> https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=05%7C02%7C%7C16e3db254699437e8adf08dc3aad6b01%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638449763697874207%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C=zg2G2PNPhyAWqblRsWA2R5AMph1jYs11FEnAwKprMCk%3D=0
>
> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version
> 2024.2310.70.400
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Mohib Anwar Rafay
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 7:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Shokz Openfit headphones
>
> Can I configure 

Re: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel in Noisy High Traffic Areas

[Robert Doc Wright]

I have what is called a neck speaker with 3d sound. It is shaped like a 
horseshoe and hangs around your neck.  it has decent volume and bass. i was 
able to use it on our noisey paratransit busses.
- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 5:00 PM
Subject: RE: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel 
in Noisy High Traffic Areas


Sadly, with the open ear, or bone conduction headphones, the fact that they 
let the surrounding sound in, means that if the sound is really loud, you 
cannot hear the info through the earphones.
If you could, you would probably be damaging your hearing.
The Bluetooth speaker idea should work better.
I hope folks find what they need.


Richard, USA
"At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."
 -- Wolfgang Von Goethe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155)
JAWS version 2024.2312.99

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 3:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel 
in Noisy High Traffic Areas

Alice, this sounds interesting.  Can you ask your friend what the brand of 
her speaker is?



Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 3/1/2024 4:21 PM, CJ & AA MAY wrote:
> My friend has a Bluetooth speaker attached to her collar for walking 
> outdoors which she is pleased with but I don't know the make.
> Alison
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard
> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 9:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Open-Ear or Bone Conduction Wireless Headphones for Safe Travel 
> in Noisy High Traffic Areas
>
> I seek two-earpiece earphones I can use while walking to hear navigation 
> guidance from an iPhone app. I need earphones that will play at a high 
> volume level while I still can hear sounds from around me because I walk 
> streets with heavy traffic. A microphone isn't essential, although would 
> be a nice option. I will appreciate  recommendations from the list.
>
> The variety of different Shokz models are confusing--their advantages and 
> disadvantages. I'm open to other brands.
>
> I've used a single-ear Voyager Legend Wireless Headset (formerly 
> Plantronics), but find the volume is insufficient with high ambient noise.
>
> I will appreciate Any assistance.
>
> Richard Petty
> richard.pe...@earthlink.net
>
>
>
>
>
> I've read several messages about
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 9:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Shokz Openfit headphones
>
> The app only works with OpenFit and OPenRun Pro.  I guess that is because 
> of their newer technology.
> I have the standard OPenRun, which cost exactly half what the OprnRun Pro 
> costs.  I also have an older OpenComm headset.  I was hoping too they 
> could have extra features through the app, but they don't.
>
>
>
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God 
> stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell 
> to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>
> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 
> 2024.2310.70.400
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mohib Anwar Rafay
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 7:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Shokz Openfit headphones
>
> Can I configure OpenCom in shokz app? I saw only an option to connect 
> OpenFit and no other headset.
>
> On 2/14/24, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Therein lies the limits of open air, or bone conduction headsets; if
>> you want to block out sound from around you, you have to use
>> headphones that cover your ears.  If you have lots of money to spend
>> on headphones, the Apple Airpods Max are fabulous!  But, I suspect still 
>> over $500.
>>
>> There are lots of over the ear headphones that have noise cancelation
>> at lower prices.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA
>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God
>> stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through
>> Hell to get it.”
>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>>
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>>
>> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS
>> version 2024.2310.70.400
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> CJ & AA MAY
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 8:25 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Shokz Openfit headphones
>>
>> Sorry about your water problems, Mark. Yes, I am very pleased with my
>> new Openfit headphones and my only disappointment is that you can only
>> adjust the volume through your