Re: Kindle book cannot be read using iOS Kindle app
I got a sample of the book. Using safari on my Mac, I hit return on the book title and on that next page, I think a little after the opportunity to order with one-click, was the sample. It did absolutely the same thing that's already been mentioned here, saying voiceover did not support the content. On Mon, 1 Dec 2014, Teresa Cochran wrote: Hello, Howard, I attempted to get a sample of the book, but that is not showing up. Curiouser and curiouser. I'm wondering if there might be a problem with the material in general. Other than that, I'm puzzled. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Dec 1, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: I'm stumped. I've never seen that particular Voiceover message before. I'm going to try to check this out, though I will probably have to get a samfle of it. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Dec 1, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Howard Dupuis hdup...@gmail.com wrote: The book I bought is called Plato's Rivalry with Medicine: A Struggle and its Dissolution, by Susan B. Levin. (The publisher is Oxford University Press.) When I open the book on my iPad using the Kindle app, all I hear is: VoiceOver does not support this content. The Amazon page says text-to-speech is enabled for various Kindle devices. When I show my iPad to a sighted person, the text of the book is there, though I'd not know that. Thanks for all your responses. -- Howard On Monday, December 1, 2014 4:11:31 PM UTC-5, Howard Dupuis wrote: Hello. I only recently began to play around with the Kindle app for iOS. I bought a couple of books and enjoyed reading them on my iPad. Until today. I purchased a new book -- published just this year by the Oxford University Press -- only to find out that it wasn't accessible. From what I can gather, it would seem to be some sort of image that VoiceOver cannot access. Two questions: 1) Is this common? 2) Is there some way to know before buying the book if it will work with the iOS app for the iPad? Thanks very much. -- Howard -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheryl Go beyond the Christmas story this year; meet Immanuel (God with us), Jesus, the crucified Savior, christ, the risen LORD.
Re: How do I access Audiopass in the NFL Mobile app on my iPhone?
It does let you access archived games but the instructions are different for that. As for live games, I listened just this evening on my iPad so I know the instructions are still the same. The best thing is to make sure you close it from your app switcher if it is still open. Then open the app again and double-tap on the number next to the menu icon. Then, if you are logged in to audiopass, that option will be there but it may be clear at the far end of the screen. Also remember that the screen will have gone into landscape mode. For archived games, you go to teams. This is a little tricky just because you have to touch down further on the iPad or iPhone to find the row of menu choices such as home, videos, and team is one of them; settings and some other things are on that row too. If you don't find it, try p\double-tapping the menu item again and then trying to find it. Under teams, right after the menu icon there will be an unlabelled button you should double tap. Then you flick through the teams and select the one whose game you want. Then find schedule on the page and double-tap it. Double-tap on the date of the game you want and you should be in a page that looks a lot like the one that has the games in the live screen. You double-tap watch/listen and choose how you want to listen. Of course do go into Settings and make sure it shows you as signed in to NFL audiopass. I know it's kind of confusing for a number of reasons: some unlabelled buttons, the fact that what you want can be on the screen you are in but in flicking you can get trapped repeating a few items and have trouble going all the way through the choices. -- Cheryl Go beyond the Christmas story this year; meet Immanuel (God with us), Jesus, the crucified Savior, christ, the risen LORD.
using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages
Today I took my iPhone and braille display to try to sing with everybody and follow along in the Scripture passages at church. I had typed everything onto my computer and sent it to Pages on my iPhone. It worked reasonably well. The only problem I had was that sometimes I would change pages and either I would have blank display for a while or the right page didn't come up. I am not using sppeech for this, just my iPhone and Refreshabraille 18. Is there an app I can use or a way that I can use pages so that I'm not having to change pages. Usually it seems that about 3 of my pages show up on the screen or at least can be panned on my display. Then I have to scroll using 3456chord and 1456-chord. If another page doesn't come up pretty quickly, I'm left behind with only an 18-cell braille disply. Is there an app that will let me just keep panning from one end of a file to the other? I did like that I could try to go to different pages in case something happened out of sequence but I don't like being stuck trying to get the display to show the next page. I need to be able to just keep panning from beginning to end of the file without having to do a scroll command. Would Notes or Plaintext work for this; I know there have been issues using Notes for longer files but would that matter as much since I'm muting speech? If I can get this perfected it will save me from having to carry around a backpack with a song notebook and a couple of Bible volumes. Thanks for any suggestions. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages
Well, after exploring my question this afternoon, i've decided to use the Notes app next week. Everything loaded in there reads straight through without the need to scroll pages and either the issue with vo doing strange things when a note gets too long doesn't happen when speech is turned off or my file isn't long enough to cause a problem. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote: Today I took my iPhone and braille display to try to sing with everybody and follow along in the Scripture passages at church. I had typed everything onto my computer and sent it to Pages on my iPhone. It worked reasonably well. The only problem I had was that sometimes I would change pages and either I would have blank display for a while or the right page didn't come up. I am not using sppeech for this, just my iPhone and Refreshabraille 18. Is there an app I can use or a way that I can use pages so that I'm not having to change pages. Usually it seems that about 3 of my pages show up on the screen or at least can be panned on my display. Then I have to scroll using 3456chord and 1456-chord. If another page doesn't come up pretty quickly, I'm left behind with only an 18-cell braille disply. Is there an app that will let me just keep panning from one end of a file to the other? I did like that I could try to go to different pages in case something happened out of sequence but I don't like being stuck trying to get the display to show the next page. I need to be able to just keep panning from beginning to end of the file without having to do a scroll command. Would Notes or Plaintext work for this; I know there have been issues using Notes for longer files but would that matter as much since I'm muting speech? If I can get this perfected it will save me from having to carry around a backpack with a song notebook and a couple of Bible volumes. Thanks for any suggestions. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: using iphone and braille display for reading text without having to change pages
Because I also had a similar issue in iBooks with scrolling using the braille display, which Anna told me how to solve by going to the end of the text field, panning left once, and doing the scrolling chord, I find that i can now also scroll reliably in the Pages app. In the case of the Pages app, if i go past the end of my text to where it says txt field and then pan left once and do the o chord, i am not only scrolled to the next page but am scrolled so that the new page is the beginning page on my screen and I then don't have to scroll again until I go through the pages my display shows and then again pan left. So now I can either continue doing my church music and Scriptures in Pages or do them in notes so that I have a continuous file and don't have to scroll. I'll probably stick with Pages as it gives me more control for skipping around to different pages than Notes does. On Sun, 28 Oct 2012, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote: Today I took my iPhone and braille display to try to sing with everybody and follow along in the Scripture passages at church. I had typed everything onto my computer and sent it to Pages on my iPhone. It worked reasonably well. The only problem I had was that sometimes I would change pages and either I would have blank display for a while or the right page didn't come up. I am not using sppeech for this, just my iPhone and Refreshabraille 18. Is there an app I can use or a way that I can use pages so that I'm not having to change pages. Usually it seems that about 3 of my pages show up on the screen or at least can be panned on my display. Then I have to scroll using 3456chord and 1456-chord. If another page doesn't come up pretty quickly, I'm left behind with only an 18-cell braille disply. Is there an app that will let me just keep panning from one end of a file to the other? I did like that I could try to go to different pages in case something happened out of sequence but I don't like being stuck trying to get the display to show the next page. I need to be able to just keep panning from beginning to end of the file without having to do a scroll command. Would Notes or Plaintext work for this; I know there have been issues using Notes for longer files but would that matter as much since I'm muting speech? If I can get this perfected it will save me from having to carry around a backpack with a song notebook and a couple of Bible volumes. Thanks for any suggestions. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Mac verses Ipad
I don't think anything needs to be out of the running. I primarily use my Mac with my iPhone a close second. Then comes my linux very close behind, and then Windows 7 with Windoweyes, System Access and occasionally the Jaws demo but my Windows system is just for fun or when all else fails. I had an iPad 1 and didn't use it enough so gave it to a friend. I liked it; i just found I didn't use it as much as I thought I would. But it doesn't mean i'll never use an iPad again. Each person needs to use the combination of equipment and software that works best for her/him and for most of us even that isn't static; I'm always re-evaluating what works best for me and my new braille display, even though it only has 18 cells, is changing the way I do things on the Mac and iphone a lot. No, nothing ever needs to be out of the running. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Big Ben
From cahom...@gmail.com Fri Oct 19 14:18:37 2012 Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:18:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Big Ben I run Westminster chimes and chime on both my 4S and 5 from nine in the morning until 11 at night with the chimes going off four times an hour and I see no battery problems. On top of this I listen to lots of baseball and football on my phones. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) On Fri, 19 Oct 2012, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote: I run Westminster chimes and chime on both my 4S and 5 from nine in the morning until 11 at night with the chimes going off four times an hour and I see no battery problems. On top of this I listen to lots of baseball and football on my phones. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Changing an app's name
hi all. My stock weather app and the wunderground app both say weather which I don't find teribly helpful. Is there a way to rename one of them? Thanks. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Changing an app's name
Thanks. I finally decided to put one in the dock and the other inside the weather folder with some other weather and weather radio apps that had distinctive names. On Wed, 17 Oct 2012, Grant Hardy wrote: You can't do it officially but you can actually re label the item to whatever you want with VoiceOver. The original name will still show on-screen though. Select the app then double tap and hold with two fingers to start VoiceOver's item labeller. Grant On 10/17/12, Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: hi all. My stock weather app and the wunderground app both say weather which I don't find teribly helpful. Is there a way to rename one of them? Thanks. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Braille Displays For iPhone
I imagine this is personal preference too. Also, it would depend on how hard you had to work or how much it interrupted your flow to keep moving through the book. On one end would be something like my braillelite 40 which I can set to scroll autoatically and then adjust the scrolling speed (braillelite doesn't work on iPhone though) and the other extreme would be something that forced you to really go out of your reading pattern to go on to the next group of cells. On Mon, 15 Oct 2012, Brett wrote: I disagree: I have a focus40, which I use at work. I set it to use 14 cells, accept for when I am reading code. For books and the web and everything else, I prefer to read with less cells. It requires less hand movement and is more ergonomic, in my opinion. Sent from Brett's iPhone On 15/10/2012, at 6:23 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I have tried some of these small displays, in my opinion they are not much worth. Yes you can use them for writing, but if you are reading only a little mails or longer messages and using safari, the smaller displays will not do it. On the other hand I am also wondering if 40 cells displays are to long. I have better results with something like 32 cells, 24 will probaly do it, I do not know, but I wish there could be done some experiments to figure out if there are any preferable lengths of braille displays. If 40 cells displays is not doing better than e.g. 24 or 32 cells why spend money on the longer displays. Best regards Annie. Den Oct 13, 2012 kl. 5:25 PM skrev Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com: I read a lot of books on my IPod, so I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to use something like a 12-cell display. I have a preference for Braille books over audio. I can definitely understand a use for a small display with Idevices, (portability, reading with light email and web browsing, and writing practice with Braille beginners) but personally, this wouldn't be my choice. I haven't actually checked out the small ones, so I can't evaluate them yet. If I get a chance, I may do so one of these days. I use my Focus 40 Blue with both my Mac and IPod, and I switch back and forth constantly by either locking the screen on my Ipod, or unloading VO on my Mac. I am very satisfied with this arrangement for my own purposes. Teresa On Oct 13, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Well, even if one only wants one for iPhone, if you are going to do email, reading and web browsing, the question is relevant. I would want to use a display for more than just the iPhone and buying questions that dealt with those issues probably wouldn't be relevant here. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Braille Displays For iPhone
I'm wondering the same thing. I'm used to a 40-cell braillelite 40 which is still plugging away but unfortunately won't work with anything on the Mac except Terminal. I see the low prices of some of these 12, 14, 18 and even 20-cell displays and wonder if I wouldn't be frustrated. I also see the trend toward everything being dependent on the computer or smart device instead of being able to use it as a stand-alone also and while I see the benefits I wonder if I will be happy with something that forces me to always have to have two devices of some kind together. Yet it's not like I can really picture me affording a stand-alone unit with maybe an sd card slot so I'm not limited by the braille device's storage. so I'm trying to reconcile myself to being glad to buy a device that will work with phone and computer. I think I can do that but I'm not sure I can convince myself that a device with so few cells, even at an almost affordable cost, will be worth it. I also would like to hear from people who habitually have used 32 and 40 cell displays as to whether they really find the displays with fewer cells satisfying for purposes of reading and web browsing. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Braille Displays For iPhone
Is that a glitch with the Refreshabraille or with braille devices with an iOS device when using grade 2 translation? On Sat, 13 Oct 2012, CD wrote: The Focus 14 is less money. The APH does glitch if you don't input real fast from what I saw when I saw it and my friend who had it said that is one of the glitches with it. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Ann Homiak Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 6:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays For iPhone Can you expand on this and say why you like the Focus 14 better? Thanks. On Sat, 13 Oct 2012, VaShaun Jones wrote: I have and like the Focus verses the APH Sent from my iPhone On Oct 13, 2012, at 1:24 AM, CD cd5...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking at the Focus 14 and also the Refresha Braille. If anyone has either of these could you write me privately and let me know how you like them. I would really like to compare the two. I have seen the Refresha Braille but haven't seen the Focus which I know is less expensive. You can write me at cd5...@gmail.com Carla Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Braille Displays For iPhone
Yes, that was what I heard. I remember this being discussed in a demonstration of the Braille Pen that I heard. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Braille Displays For iPhone
Sorry, I'm using my linux mail and forgot to include messages. I was replying to the comment of what happens when you pause on a word while using contracted braille and the word is expanded to the uncontracted form. On Sat, 13 Oct 2012, Richard Turner wrote: Cheryl, What part of this conversation were you replying to? You didn't quote any of the previous messages, so it is unclear what you heard. Thanks, Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Ann Homiak Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Braille Displays For iPhone Yes, that was what I heard. I remember this being discussed in a demonstration of the Braille Pen that I heard. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Braille Displays For iPhone
Thanks so much Scott. This was a really good explanation of the three and a helpful discussion of the pros and cons. I hadn't realized that the Perkins mini had sd card capability. On Sat, 13 Oct 2012, Scott Davert wrote: Hi all. As someone who has used both the Focus 14 and the Refreshabraille 18, but who has my own personal preferences, here are my thoughts. I'm replying to several messages at once here btw. One of the advantages of the RB is the fact that you have 4 more cells to work with. That may not sound like a big deal to some, but when you're reading books and long emails such as the one I'm typing now, it can become a factor. It certainly was for me, a braille reader who uses braille about 95% of the time to access my iDevices. However, there are some pluses to the Focus 14. I like the keyboard slightly better, as I don't have to press so hard on the keys, the lower price is nice, and, that awful USB plug present on the Refreshabraille 18 is not an issue on the 14. I can expand on what I mean by the USB plug comment if anyone wants. And, finally, there is another option that has not been brought up here as of yet. The Perkins Mini is a 16 cells display which has basic note taking capabilities and is compatible with iOS 6. It's good for reading books and you're not dependent on a connected device for everything. The memory used is a micro SD card. However, I personally do not like the keyboard, but that could be just me. Essentially, you have the keyboard above the display, the display itself which is set at a lower hight than the display, and then spacebars on the other side of the display, meaning that they're quite a ways from the keyboard. Some people have indicated that they become used to the keyboard, but it was not comfortable for me. The price of the Perkins Mini is $1549, which is more than the Focus 14 and less than the RB 18. After reading all this, you're probably wondering my preference. I'm not sure, since my preferences don't necissarily line up with anyone elses. You have the info now, and I'm willing to answer more questions as I can, but I never feel it's right to place too much on the recommendation of another without having all the facts. What works for me, may not work for you. Hope this helps, Scott On 10/13/12, Cheryl Ann Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, I'm using my linux mail and forgot to include messages. I was replying to the comment of what happens when you pause on a word while using contracted braille and the word is expanded to the uncontracted form. On Sat, 13 Oct 2012, Richard Turner wrote: Cheryl, What part of this conversation were you replying to? You didn't quote any of the previous messages, so it is unclear what you heard. Thanks, Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Ann Homiak Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Braille Displays For iPhone Yes, that was what I heard. I remember this being discussed in a demonstration of the Braille Pen that I heard. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Are slide-on cases really bad?
In the book from NBP about the iPhone and iOS 5, at one point the authors state that you shouldn't use slide-on cases because a bit of dirt could get caught in there and cause a scratch leading to an eventual crack. Yet I notice that a lot of people on this list, myself included, use tfu cases and cases that the phone slides into like a tray that is on the bottom of the phone and comes up around the sides. I assume this is the type of case to which the authors are referring though I can't be sure since the only cases I've seen are the ones I've bought. At any rate, since so many on this list are using this type of case, have any of you had an experience of trapped dirt cracking your phone? Do you feel that you are able to adequately check the case before putting it back on if you remove it? I am enjoying the book, which I am sure quite a few on this list have, but I wondered about the statement regarding the case and questioned just how concerned I should be. Perhaps my idea about the type of case being warned about is incorrect. Maybe the slide-on cases being referred to are actually ones that the phone slides into and that cover the top and bottom rather than ones that form fit around the bottom and sides. If one hasn't seen a variety of cases, one wouldn't be absolutely sure which cases were being criticized. So I wonder if people have had their phones damaged by their cases and if so which kind of case caused your problem. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
braille pen
Does anybody use the basic braille pen with an iphone? Since it provides for braille input but doesn't actually provide a braille display, does anybody find it advantageous just for the input method? I know that sometimes I can type faster in grade two braille but I wondered if this would make it worth buying the product or whether it is better just to continue to wait until I can afford the kind of braille display I really want, which will be something probably with more cells than the braille pen 12. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Are slide-on cases really bad?
Yes, I think what I was thinking might fit in the slide-on category is really snap-on. thanks for the clarification. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14, HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
