My experience with the NLS Reader

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Hi everyone,
This is Priscilla. I have a couple questions since I am new to the NLS E-Reader 
pilot program and just received the NLS E-Reader because my library just got 
onboard.
So far, I’ve had it for a week.
I called my local Talking-book and Braille library and they said that they are 
currently participating in the pilot program. Some of my observations of the 
Humanware NLS E-reader are as follows:
When opening the cardboard box containing the device, I got very excited 
because the braille display felt just right and pretty comfortable for me to 
use. I liked the ergonomic keys and the fact that the space keys were further 
apart from the braille display. That position is more comfortable for me, and 
the keys felt rather large. But then again,I have small hands and fingers 
because I’m very petite.
It came with two lanyards, one for the case holding the braille display, and 
the other one for the braille display itself. When closed, the braille display 
looks like a small hardcover book which is cute, and with the straps, it feels 
like wearing a cute pocketbook.
They’re meant to be hung around the neck, but I would prefer to use them as a 
shoulder strap and wear it as a small purse. Beware that the straps are indeed 
skinny and fragile, so you cannot put too much force on them. I’d prefer 
thicker straps with a stronger clip.
Personally, I’d rather carry it in my regular purse than just by itself because 
chances are that one of the clips can break easily if not careful.

One thing I would like to have is the ability to use it as a basic notetaker 
though.
I have a Macbook air M1 computer using VoiceOver, and to my surprise, it works 
beautifully when I connect it using the USBC cable that came with my laptop. It 
also charges the display which is a bonus, and I don’t need to bring multiple 
cables if I need to travel. I can leave the charger and cable at home.
It also connects to my iPhone using bluetooth like all other devices.
In comparison to the freedom scientific focus 40 braille display, the keys work 
better for me on this one and are quieter. I also like the fact that you can 
connect USB drives to the braille E-Reader.
As for the focus 40 braille display I mainly use it for editing on my computer. 
With the focus 40, you need to bring the extra bulky charger which I don’t like 
because it doesn’t have the ability to charge using my computer. But with this 
new Humanware E-reader, you can do that, and it has a separate cable and wall 
charger which is a lot better.
The braille  feels crisp for me to read. Also the cursor routing buttons feel 
like bump dots.
It also has a memory card slot to insert a memory card which I like.
I connected my bard account and it is a breeze to download books onto the 
device rather than getting the extra cable and hooking it up to the included 
cartridge to load the book.
I tried using a USB flash drive and it worked well. So far, I was able to open 
PDF files on it. However, I was disappointed in finding out that you cannot 
open word or powerpoint documents.
I connected my external drive , and was disappointed because it said USB 
connection failed.

I have a question though,
I’ve heard that at the end of the pilot program, you can keep the device if you 
want? How does this work? Do you have to email a completed transfer of 
ownership form for that after you do all the surveys? From my experience, I had 
a school-issued laptop, and once you graduate you fill out a transfer of 
ownership form proving that you completed all required courses, final exams and 
papers.


Because if that is the case, that would be of great use for me in the future 
since I plan to go back to school someday or attend other conferences.
Also, what has been your experience with the NLS E-Reader. I believe I got the 
new version.
It’s so small that I can carry it in my handbag and use it as a braille 
keyboard for my phone.
Why didn’t I do that instead of buying a keyboard case for my iPad during the 
Covid19 pandemic? Laughing out loud .
I wish I knew this sooner though.
Is this the smart brilliant VX braille display from humanwhare or another model?
Just wondering.


Thank you, and I hope this helps
Kind regards,

Priscilla

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Re: A great gift idea for blind iDevice enthusiasts

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Oh that is so interesting. Do you have to assemble it? How does that work?
Does it have any moving parts? Is it like a puzzle?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 28, 2022, at 9:52 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I hope the moderator won't mind me drawing the groups attention to a
> really quirky iDevice related gift that I purchased for myself as a
> bit of a late Christmas present. To be clear, I have absolutely no
> relationship with the company at all - I'm only posting about it
> because I think it would be a great gift idea, particularly for blind
> people.
> 
> Grid Studio are a company that create framed art pieces out of old
> iPhones and some other devices. Their creations are actually great
> examples of how art can still be accessible to those of us with no
> useful vision as by their very nature they're incredibly tactile.
> Additionally, since the company dismantle the phones before framing
> them, they end up turning into far more interesting pieces to feel
> than you'd get if you just stuck an old, unmodified iPhone in a frame.
> I've purchased their framed 4S ad 6 and honestly couldn't be happier.
> https://www.gridstudio.cc
> 
> A few things to bear in mind:
> 
> The frames ship from China. It's not a speedy service in relation to
> what we're used to today by any stretch of the imagination so if you
> need one quickly, I'd suggest you look elsewhere. I ordered mine on
> the 8th of February and they arrived in the UK on the 28th.
> By default a plastic board is installed in the frame to protect the
> components, but if you leave it installed you won't be able to feel
> any of them. It is however very easy to remove and the frame can be
> reassembled without it installed without issue.
> Each component is labelled in print. With a bit of creative thinking
> and potentially some help from someone with some useful vision, there
> should be enough space surrounding the components for braille labels
> to be added if you wish.
> The website's a little tricky to use. I was able to complete my order
> using NVDA and Firefox however.
> 
> I should probably also point out that their frames aren't what most
> people would class as cheap but this didn't really bother me. I can't
> remember the last time I purchased a piece of art for myself (I'm not
> sure I ever have), but what ultimately pushed me over the edge was
> that they're something that I'll actually be able to get some
> enjoyment out of, instead of just making my flat more interesting for
> sighted guests.
> 
> I hope someone found this useful.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ben.
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Mac screenshots

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Hi everyone,
Hope this message finds you well. I am just wondering, Does anyone know if 
there is a shortcut to take screenshots on a Mac? I know there is one on the 
iPhone which involves pressing the volume button and power button at the same 
time. Does anyone use the Screen Shot feature on zoom? How can you take 
screenshots using VoiceOver? Is it tricky for people who are totally blind?
Is there a shortcut to take a screenshot and zoom? I cannot figure out how to 
do this.
Any suggestions are welcome.
Thank you and have a wonderful day.
Best,
Priscilla

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Re: Accessible pulse oxymeter

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Hi everyone,
I hope all of you are staying well and healthy. The Apple Watch series 6 has 
the pulse oximeter which is totally accessible. That is the only one that I 
know of. I haven’t heard of other accessible pulse oximeter‘s. This is 
critically important if you have COVID-19 or if you are battling the disease. 
covid is scary enough for most people but it’s even scarier for us since we 
cannot really monitor our symptoms because of the lack of accessibility of 
medical equipment.
If anyone knows of accessible pulse oximeter‘s besides the Apple Watch, that 
would be good to include on this thread for reference.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 23, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
> 
> If you are from India, you can check with saksham, they have talking
> pulse oxymeter.
> 
>> On 9/23/21, TaraPrakash  wrote:
>> I was told they will have them back in stock next week
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:32 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I believe I saw an ad for an oximeter  from guidelights and gadgets for
>>> around $70.  checking the website I didn't find it.
>>> 
>>> guidelightsandgadgets.us
>>> 
>>> for info, write Barry at
>>> bsch...@scheur.com
>>> At 05:45 PM 9/22/2021, you wrote:
 This is no doubt over kill, but an Apple Watch series 6 and 7 have the
 blood oxygen sensor as well as the ability to track your heart rate.
 I think the 6 was the first one with the blood oxygen sensor.
 
 No clue beyond that.
 
 
 
 
 
 Richard
 "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
 it." - Jane Wagner
 
 My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:30 PM
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 Subject: Accessible pulse oxymeter
 
 Hello all.
 asking for a friend Any recommendation for an accessible   Pulse
 oximeter  that would work with iPhone or had a built in speech output?
 Concord health supply does advertise one on its website but it is out of
 stock. Cvs has  a talking oximeter but One of the reviews says it does
 not talk.  Any recommendation will be welcome.
 
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Re: you mail

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

I’ve used braille screen input before,
I prefer the braille screen input on the iPad because there’s more screen real 
estate.

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> On Aug 10, 2021, at 10:55 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> 
> Well I have rebooted the phone and I still get the same result.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 7:43 AM, CHELA Robles > > wrote:
>> 
>> No, I turned off my braille display, and also made sure my Orbit Writer was 
>> also off. Right now I'm using braille screen input with success here in this 
>> email. Perhaps a reboot will help. I have the iPhone 8 Plus with iOS 14.7.1.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 7:32 AM, Richard Turner >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ON an off chance, do you have a keyboard connected and the phone thinks it 
>>> is in quick nav?
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Richard
>>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Web site: www.turner42.com 
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> >> > On Behalf Of CHELA Robles
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 7:29 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: you mail
>>>  
>>> Well, when you open the app, and give it permissions like other apps do, 
>>> then it asks you to input your 10-digit phone number, followed by an email 
>>> and create a password, however, I'm having difficulty with regards to 
>>> inputting my phone number, all I hear is the sound one here's when 
>>> voiceover has reached the end of a screen and nothing is in the text field 
>>> though I've clearly double-tapped to make sure I was in edit mode.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 6:14 AM, Casey Wollner >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi for those of you who use the you mail app what is the best way to set it 
>>> up and do you have to pay for all of its futures?
>>> Or is the free version good enough?
>>> And then how do you set it up and then disable your voice mail so it will 
>>> use the you mail
>>> App?
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Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

I thought it would be a good read since we’re talking about technology being 
helpful to supplement the tools we already have.
If they had a robot dog as a guide, I’d sign up so long as the AI is suitable 
enough to help me have an easier time navigating open spaces and other settings.


> On May 23, 2021, at 6:45 PM, goshawk on horseback 
>  wrote:
> 
> I disagree. 
> there have already over this last couple of weeks alone, been conversations 
> on at least 4 other e-mail lists that I am on, about possible robot guide 
> dogs for example. 
>  
> Simon 
>  
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: CrazyEyez <mailto:bmkreco...@gmail.com>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2021 10:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think 
>> so. - The Washington Post
>> 
>> honestly this is stupid.
>> Another money grab.
>> You'll never ever replace the cane.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Priscilla Garces (prisci) 
>>> mailto:garcesp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> Thought this might be interesting to read.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/03/25/innovations-ai-backpack-blind/
>>>>  
>>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/03/25/innovations-ai-backpack-blind/>
>>>> 
>>>> Researchers design an AI-powered backpack for the visually impaired
>>>> 
>>>> Artificial intelligence researchers hope the bag will one day replace 
>>>> canes and guide dogs
>>>> 
>>>> Dalvin Brown <https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/dalvin-brown/> March 
>>>> 25, 2021 at 9:00 a.m. EDT
>>>> 
>>>> Researchers at the University of Georgia created an AI-powered backpack to 
>>>> help visually impaired people navigate the outside world. (Intel) 
>>>> Among the latest iterations of next-generation assistive accessories is a 
>>>> backpack powered by Intel’s artificial intelligence software. It’s 
>>>> designed to audibly alert wearers when they’re approaching possibly 
>>>> hazardous situations like crosswalks or strangers.
>>>> 
>>>> The backpack, which has yet to be named, was revealed Wednesday but could 
>>>> face years of development before a consumer-ready version is launched. 
>>>> Still, the product offers a glimpse at what a future could look like as 
>>>> progress in AI and machine learning increasingly help people with vision 
>>>> issues better perceive their environments and, therefore, live more 
>>>> independently.
>>>> 
>>>> The backpack was created by researchers at the University of Georgia, who 
>>>> took existing computer vision techniques and combined them into a system 
>>>> that seeks to replace the need for a cane or guide dog.
>>>> 
>>>> Irony was really the driving force behind the idea, according to Jagadish 
>>>> K. Mahendran, the lead researcher at the University of Georgia who also 
>>>> specializes in computer vision for robots.
>>>> 
>>>> What's next for wheelchairs? Maybe autonomy. 
>>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/02/19/smart-wheelchairs/?itid=lk_interstitial_manual_11>
>>>> “I met with my visually impaired friend, and she was describing problems 
>>>> to me that she faces daily. And I was struck: For the past few years, I’ve 
>>>> been teaching robots how to see things while there are people who cannot 
>>>> see things and need help,” Mahendran said.
>>>> 
>>>> There’s nothing outwardly special about the backpack’s design: It looks 
>>>> like an ordinary gray knapsack with a small computer, such as a laptop, 
>>>> inside. A match-box-sized GPS unit is affixed to the outside.
>>>> 
>>>> In a demonstration video, the user also wears a vest with tiny holes to 
>>>> conceal an embedded AI camera. When connected to the computer, the 4K 
>>>> camera captures depth and color information used to help people avoid 
>>>> things like hanging branches. The camera can also be embedded in a fanny 
>>>> pack or other waist-worn pouches.
>>>> 
>>>> The spatial camera, built by the computer vision company Luxonis, can read 
>>>> signs, detect crosswalks and see c

Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Hi everyone,
Thought this might be interesting to read.


> 
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/03/25/innovations-ai-backpack-blind/
>  
> 
> 
> Researchers design an AI-powered backpack for the visually impaired
> 
> Artificial intelligence researchers hope the bag will one day replace canes 
> and guide dogs
> 
> Dalvin Brown March 25, 
> 2021 at 9:00 a.m. EDT
> 
> Researchers at the University of Georgia created an AI-powered backpack to 
> help visually impaired people navigate the outside world. (Intel)
> Among the latest iterations of next-generation assistive accessories is a 
> backpack powered by Intel’s artificial intelligence software. It’s designed 
> to audibly alert wearers when they’re approaching possibly hazardous 
> situations like crosswalks or strangers.
> 
> The backpack, which has yet to be named, was revealed Wednesday but could 
> face years of development before a consumer-ready version is launched. Still, 
> the product offers a glimpse at what a future could look like as progress in 
> AI and machine learning increasingly help people with vision issues better 
> perceive their environments and, therefore, live more independently.
> 
> The backpack was created by researchers at the University of Georgia, who 
> took existing computer vision techniques and combined them into a system that 
> seeks to replace the need for a cane or guide dog.
> 
> Irony was really the driving force behind the idea, according to Jagadish K. 
> Mahendran, the lead researcher at the University of Georgia who also 
> specializes in computer vision for robots.
> 
> What's next for wheelchairs? Maybe autonomy. 
> 
> “I met with my visually impaired friend, and she was describing problems to 
> me that she faces daily. And I was struck: For the past few years, I’ve been 
> teaching robots how to see things while there are people who cannot see 
> things and need help,” Mahendran said.
> 
> There’s nothing outwardly special about the backpack’s design: It looks like 
> an ordinary gray knapsack with a small computer, such as a laptop, inside. A 
> match-box-sized GPS unit is affixed to the outside.
> 
> In a demonstration video, the user also wears a vest with tiny holes to 
> conceal an embedded AI camera. When connected to the computer, the 4K camera 
> captures depth and color information used to help people avoid things like 
> hanging branches. The camera can also be embedded in a fanny pack or other 
> waist-worn pouches.
> 
> The spatial camera, built by the computer vision company Luxonis, can read 
> signs, detect crosswalks and see coming changes in elevation.
> 
> Bluetooth earphones allow the user to communicate with the system and vice 
> versa. So the wearer can ask out loud for location information, and the 
> system will tell them where they are. If the camera spots a threat like an 
> incoming pedestrian, it can tell the wearer.
> 
> It’s too soon to know how much such a device would cost consumers, but 
> several start-ups and organizations are working to solve the same issues, and 
> the tech doesn’t come cheap.
> 
> WeWALK’s smart cane with obstacle detection sells for $600, 10 times as much 
> as an ordinary white cane. OrCam MyEye Pro, a wireless smart camera that 
> reads what’s in front of you, runs $4,250.
> 
> Social media has upped its accessibility game. But deaf creators say it has a 
> long way to go. 
> 
> Researchers at the University of Georgia went with a backpack design because 
> it would help visually impaired people avoid unwanted attention. They used 
> Intel’s Movidius computing chip because it was small and powerful enough to 
> run advanced AI functions with low latency.
> 
> The next step is to raise funds and expand testing. They hope to one day 
> unleash an open-source, AI-based, visual-assistance system. The researchers 
> have formed a team called Mira, made up of some visually impaired volunteers.
> 
> “We want this solution to be inclusive and as transparent as possible,” 
> Mahendran said. “Our main motto is to increase the involvement of visually 
> impaired people in their daily activities and reduce their dependency on 
> others.”

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Re: Turning touchpad on and off on Macbook Air M1

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Hi,
Hope you’re doing well today.
To turn off the touchpad commander, first press and hold the control and option 
keys at the same time, and then the second step is to rotate the thumb and 
index fingers on the trackpad to the left until you hear  “Trackpad commander 
off" along with a beep.
To turn it on, repeat the first and second step in reverse. By rotating to the 
right until you hear “trackpad commander on”.

Thank you.


> On May 17, 2021, at 8:15 AM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
> I believe it is VO + rotor right.  Maybe go into help with VO+K and be sure 
> so I don't get you in trouble.
> 
> 
> 
> At 05:36 AM 5/17/2021, you wrote:
>> Dear listers,
>> 
>> I am now sharing my new Air with my wife. I am blind and she isn’t. She 
>> likes to use the touchpad but I don’t and I keep accidentally touching it 
>> by accident when using voiceover. How can I turn off the touchpad on the fly 
>> without going into preferences every time?
>> 
>> With many thanks
>> Ian
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Re: Preferred calendar app recommendations

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Hi,
I use the apple calendar app because it{s very accessible. I like that it syncs 
directly to my devices like my laptop, iPad, and watch. I also use the Google 
calendar app as a backup to the apple calendar app.
I also recommend the google calendar app because it is as accessible as the 
apple calendar app.
I rather manage all of my task on 1 or two calendar apps, and google calendar 
is good for creating reminders, tasks and goals, and it reminds you to complete 
tasks.



> On May 4, 2021, at 1:47 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> Greetings. I use a specific app to manage my calendar, but am
> interested in recommendations from others regarding their preferred
> calendar app. What do you use, why do you use it, what do you like
> about it, etc.? If you can, please give me some positives and
> negatives about your preferred app.
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: Considering purchasing an iPad

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Hi,
 Hope all of you are doing well.
I purchased an iPad back in 2018. I purchased it mainly for note taking on the 
go whenever I had to attend meetings, conferences, and other events where my 
laptop isn’t practical, especially on long commutes. I had a MacBook Pro which 
can easily get heavy for me with the additional accessories.
Oftentimes, I come home feeling tired because my muscles hurt from carrying the 
gear around, but let’s keep in mind that I’m a very petite person, so that 
surely makes a big difference, and less is certainly more. With the pandemic, I 
used the iPad less except when going out side on my back yard which I prefer 
over my laptop because it’s considerably less costly to replace the iPad than 
it is to replace my laptop if it accidentally breaks when it falls on the 
concrete floor.
If you will be doing a lot of work on the go that requires note taking, I’d get 
the iPad mini or regular iPad with bluetooth keyboard. I have a bluetooth 
keyboard case I got from Amazon and it has a backlit keyboard which is 
excellent for those who are partially sighted.
When I went to an NFB convention years ago, a lot of blind people used iPads 
with refreshable braille displays as their notetakers rather than the dedicated 
braille notetakers. Now it is getting harder to choose between the iPad and 
laptop since they are now so similar in function with the advanced M1 chips.
For the price, you can either consider the MacBook Air if you want to fully 
transition to the Mac, but if you own a windows computer, you can get the iPad 
mini or regular iPad with bluetooth keyboard and braille display if you are a 
starter in the apple ecosystem.
I have  the MacBook Air and like it because it’s more ergonomic and smaller 
than the MacBook Pro which had to be replace since it’s tapered at the bottom

Thank you.


.
 

> On Apr 25, 2021, at 4:38 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I kind of think an iPad is a sighted thing, bigger screen, main advantage. My 
> sighted husband just loves his, yet, he does not even own a cell phone of any 
> ilk. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2021 4:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Considering purchasing an iPad
> 
> Personally I find iPads rather useless, we have one at home which my sighted 
> wife uses and I have one at work and each time I use it for a little thing 
> here and there I think the big screen is just a pain in the neck. Once again, 
> this my personal opinion, but I think if you had an ipad several years ago 
> and got rid of it then getting another won't give you a different experience. 
> I'll reach for my iPhone every time and of course when it comes to doing 
> serious and prolonged work like answereing emails, more complicated web 
> browsing and such give me my computer, please as I still find doing that with 
> Jaws and Edge or Chrome and, in the case of emails, Outlook, is way more 
> efficient. I have recently switched to browser based online point of sale 
> (Lightspeed Retail) and accounting systems (QuickBooks Online) and while the 
> iOS QuickBooks app has its merrits, most of the time working in these 
> environments with a computer is way better. Therefore my suggestion is that 
> you are better of with your iPad and if your laptop isn't up to snuff any 
> more then spend the money you would spend on an iPad on a decent computer.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri 
> Stimmel
> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2021 12:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Considering purchasing an iPad
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I am considering purchasing an iPad. I am trying to decide it is really what 
> I want to do. I had an iPad Mini, several years ago. I can do a lot on my 
> phone, and I use it all the time.
> 
> However, sometimes I don't want to have to use my phone all the time. I still 
> enjoy using my laptop. So I am just trying to decide what I should do.
> 
> 
> My first question is this.
> 
> When using the iPad, is the screen still set up in columns?
> 
> If so, is there still not a way to turn this off?
> 
> That was one of my biggest complaints with the iPad before.
> 
> 
> Also, are there bluetooth keyboard cases out now, for the iPad Mini?
> 
> If I do decide to make this purchase, I will likely go with the Mini.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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Re: Mac big sur: how to turn on VoiceOver to enter my password?

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Hi everyone, I also got a shiny new Mac since my older MacBook Pro finally 
broke because my screen wasn’t working and my battery wasn’t holding a charge 
anymore.
I got the new MacBook Air because I found that using the Touch Bar would be an 
issue being that I need the physical buttons to turn on VoiceOver. I preferred 
the function keys since it is easier for me being that I’m totally blind. It is 
easier if I use command F5 to activate and deactivate VoiceOver rather than 
pressing the Touch ID button 3 times while holding the command button. + The 
MacBook Air has a lighter footprint and smaller charger I can always carry in 
my purse or pocket. I mostly use my Mac for basic word processing, email, 
researching on the internet and videoconferences.


> On Apr 15, 2021, at 7:11 PM, Bob Hill  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ann and list,
> 
> Having just received a shiny new MacBook Pro a couple of days ago, I can tell 
> you that the touch ID button is the power button in the right upper corner of 
> the machine, at the right end of the touch bar.
> 
> Bob Hill
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my BrailleNote Touch PlusOn Apr 15, 2021 5:24 PM, Ann Byrne 
>  wrote:
>> 
>> Where is the touch ID button? 
>> At 04:16 PM 4/15/2021, you wrote: 
>>> Press command-f5 to turn on VoiceOver. If 
>>> you’ve got a Touch Bar, hold command and press 
>>> the Touch ID  button three times. 
>>> Regards, 
>>> Daniel 
>>> 
 On Apr 15, 2021, at 5:57 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote: 
 
 the stinker is silent!  I have tried telling 
 siri to turn on voiceOver, but she's not listening.How do I get speech??? 
 
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Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or wait for the 13 to come out.

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Some people read a lot of audiobooks and record Voice memos in addition to 
photos and videos. The audio books that we listen to on audible and bard are 
often downloaded on our phones which take up memory.
I’d get an iPad with a 1 TB option if it becomes available.
. . 
> On Mar 2, 2021, at 12:17 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> Why would you need that much memory?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 11:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or 
> wait for the 13 to come out.
> 
> I am so interested in that.  I'd get an iPhone with one terabyte of internal 
> memory no matter how much it cost.
> 
> On 3/2/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> The rumor I heard on the local news this morning is that the next 
>> iPhones may have 1 terabyte of memory as an option.
>> 
>> Time will tell.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>> 
>> 
>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Mich Verrier
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 6:09 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, 
>> or wait for the 13 to come out.
>> 
>> Hi I have a I phone 8 witch I got on 2 year contract around 2 years 
>> ago. I also have thought of getting another new phone but have disided 
>> that I am going to wate since shure telus my carreier has a good deal 
>> 0 dollors up frunt on the I phone 12 I am going to wate until the 13 
>> comes out and seeif I can get that since my 8 is working quite well 
>> and from what it sounds like the 13 will have a lot of fetures that 
>> will work for the future. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: March 1, 2021 10:25 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, 
>> or wait for the 13 to come out.
>> 
>> You should dabsolutely not buy the current 12 Pro, all you read about 
>> the new iPhone 13 points to a much better phone with significant 
>> upgrades. I believe you are somebody who likes to keep his iPhone for 
>> more than just a year or two and the iPhone 13 ith next gen 5G 
>> support, most likely under-screen Touch Id as well as Face Id will be 
>> much more future proof. My wife and I bought the iPhone 11 and iPhone 
>> 11 Pro, respectively last fall because our carrier offered a pretty 
>> good deal and we both had an iPhone 8 in ver good condition which we 
>> were able to sell for a pretty reasonable price, but depending on the 
>> final specs of the iPhone 13 I might be tempted to upgrade even though 
>> we only got the iPhone 11 a year ago. For me this would be the first 
>> time I upgrade after just 1 year, the only other time was in 2011 when 
>> Apple released the iPhone 4S with SIRI and I upgraded to it from the iPhone 
>> 4 which was my first iPhone and which I bought in 2010.
>> Whenever major new features are involved like 5G, Lidar, MagSafe and 
>> so on it seems upgrading the year after these technologies are 
>> introduced is always a better choice.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 5:59 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or 
>> wait for the 13 to come out.
>> 
>> Hi to all.  In a few more months
>> , I should have the money to purchase a new iPhone.  At first, I 
>> thought about the 12 pro, but I know, that maybe by October or around 
>> there, the new iPhone 13 will probably come out.  Should I wait for 
>> the 13 to come out, or purchase the 12 pro.  Thanks for any suggestions.
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Re: Looking for a good medicine reminder app

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Hi,
You can try out the Walgreens app. It is a pretty good app that can remind you 
about taking medicine.
Another one is called Medisafe.
It’s available at this link: 
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/medisafe-medication-management/id573916946
 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 29, 2021, at 11:15 AM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> I know this is a huge category on the app store so I thought I would ask the 
> list first. I need a good med reminder app that will allow me to configure 
> several meds with flexible scheduling and the ability to nag me until the med 
> is taken. I’ve already tried a few of them and unfortunately many of them 
> suffer from unlabeled buttons and other accessibility issues.
>  
> Any suggestions based on your experiences welcomed.
>  
>  
>  
> Warmest regards
>  
> Rick Alfaro
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Re: Apple TV and apps

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

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> On Nov 30, 2020, at 8:20 PM, Tom Cramer  wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> So now that I am playing with the Apple TV, I wonder about apps for
> it. For instance, am I able to do things like email, texting and other
> things like Facebook or Twitter?
> I stream Facebook live concerts and it would be cool to have them
> coming through the Apple TV which is hooked up to my home
> entertainment system.
> Tom
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Re: Mac OSBig sur

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Hi Anna,
Thank you for the thorough information, and hope you are doing well.
How do I access sidecar? How do I do that on the Mac or iPad?
since you installed the new update, what accessibility improvements have you 
noticed on the Mac?


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> On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:05 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> Sidecar was an iOS 13 feature, so I'm sure it works with all iPads that can 
> run iOS 13 and 14. Check out the Applevis article about the Mac; it's very 
> thorough regarding accessibility improvements. I installed Big Sur on my 2015 
> Macbook Pro, and it's working well and has some accessibility improvements.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Wren Langley  wrote:
>> 
>> hi,
>> 
>> To answer one of your questions, I think that if you have your Mac synced to 
>> iCloud and your iCloud synced to I’m sorry and your iPhone sync to iCloud I 
>> think you could start your document on the Mac and finish it on the iPhone. 
>> I think you would have to have handoff turned on though on the iPhone, but I 
>> think it would work. As far as your other questions, I have ordered the Mac 
>> with the M1 ship, but I don’t have it yet, and won’t have it until December 
>> 9 or 16th I think it is. I just got a map, so I don’t know much about it 
>> yet. Hope that one question was answered correctly for you
>> 
>> God bless,
>> Wren Langley
>> PS I don’t know what screen mirroring is, and I don’t have any vision. As 
>> far as the sidecar, I know it works on my iPad Pro, but I don’t know about 
>> the other iPads.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Priscilla Garces (prisci) 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> Hope all of you are doing well.
>>> Does anyone currently own a Mac or have the current MacBook with the New M1 
>>> chip discussed in the recent WWDC Apple keynote?
>>> If so, has anyone updated to the Latest Mac OS software which is Mac OS11, 
>>> Big Sur? If so, what new accessibility features have you discovered and/or 
>>> find useful? Can you start a document on a Mac and finish it on your iPhone.
>>> Also, can you mirror the display on the Mac with the iPad or iPhone? For 
>>> those of you with some vision, what is screen mirroring anyway?
>>> I just updated my current Mac with the new software, and I like the control 
>>> center in the menu bar. Prior to this new update, it was a hit or mis 
>>> whenever I hit Ctrl option M twice in a rapid succession to find the status 
>>> menu.
>>> Also, what is the sidecar feature, and does that work with the new iPads 
>>> only?
>>> I have the iPad 5th Generation.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
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Mac OSBig sur

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Hi everyone,
Hope all of you are doing well.
Does anyone currently own a Mac or have the current MacBook with the New M1 
chip discussed in the recent WWDC Apple keynote?
If so, has anyone updated to the Latest Mac OS software which is Mac OS11, Big 
Sur? If so, what new accessibility features have you discovered and/or find 
useful? Can you start a document on a Mac and finish it on your iPhone.
Also, can you mirror the display on the Mac with the iPad or iPhone? For those 
of you with some vision, what is screen mirroring anyway?
I just updated my current Mac with the new software, and I like the control 
center in the menu bar. Prior to this new update, it was a hit or mis whenever 
I hit Ctrl option M twice in a rapid succession to find the status menu.
Also, what is the sidecar feature, and does that work with the new iPads only?
I have the iPad 5th Generation.

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Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

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Me either. I cannot read the article. Safari is slow on my Mac.


> On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:58 PM, Mich Verrier  wrote:
> 
> I also can’t read the artickle eather. Can some one find the text of the 
> artickle and send it? All I found was different links and no real artickle. 
> From Mich.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of kitty hevener
> Sent: November 16, 2020 9:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
> person's receiving Social Security
>  
> Neither could I.  Just found comments by other bloggers.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Julie Dawson
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
> person's receiving Social Security
>  
> I can't read the article.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Simon A Fogarty 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:55 PM
>> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
>> person's receiving Social Security
>>  
>> I told you guys he was an A hole,
>>  
>> Is that something biden can reverse?
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> > > On Behalf Of matthew dyer
>> Sent: Tuesday, 17 November 2020 1:57 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
>> person's receiving Social Security
>>  
>> IOut  rages is all I am going to say.  JMO 
>>  
>> Matthew
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Richard Turner >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read 
>>> this.
>>> https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Richard
>>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
>>> flying.
>>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
>>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss"
>>> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>>  
>>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> *I’m not the card shark
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Questions about TV fire sticks and TV fire cube from Amazon.

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Hi everyone, hope you are doing well. I have a question about the TV fire stick 
and fire cube from Amazon.
Does anyone on either of these devices, TV fire stick or TV fire cube?
For those of you who have partial vision, how do these devices look like?
Are they standalone or do they have to connect to a TV?
Is setting up the firestick or fire cube accessible?
Do both of these devices work with Amazon Alexa?
And also, has anyone traveled with  these devices?
I am curious because I have never seen them in person before and also for 
informational purposes if I do decide on getting one of these to connect either 
to my computer or TV.

thank you.
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Re: looking for good portable bluetooth keyboard recommendations

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Hi,
I have the iPad keyboard case i got from Amazon. It’s 50$ and it has worked 
well for me. It doesn’t say the brand of the keyboard. It fits an iPad 9.7 
inches. It is meant for the iPad Pro with similar de mentions which is why the 
speakers are on all four sides. I have the iPad 5th generation which i 
originally bought it since my laptop’s battery isn’t holding a charge as well 
and needed the iPad for note taking at meetings. I really like the keyboard 
because the keys are very comfortable to type with. But then again, i have 
small hands which makes it a little bit harder to grip certain things like the 
big lunch trays at school.  It can be a little bulky because the case is made 
of hard plastic, not like the thinner keyboard cases sold by apple which can be 
a challenge typing on your lap. With this keyboard, i can type on my lap, but i 
have to be careful not to bend the iPad backwards so that it doesn’t fall over. 
The keyboard swivels 360 degrees and you can use it as just a tablet if you 
have an iPad. The only thing I don’t really like about it is that it is not 
removable. I’d love for it to be removable so that i can also bring it anywhere 
and type on my iPhone or computer.
 It is sold on amazon, and you can search iPad keyboard case for iPad 9.7 
inches, backlit keyboard.




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> On Nov 8, 2020, at 3:21 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> According to Amazon the dimensions are:  25.2 x 1 x 9 cm; 184 Grams
> 
> When folded the keyboard is a little wider and a little shorter than my 
> iPhone XR.  The keyboard has a central area and two sections fold outward 
> from this to give you the full keyboard.  So each folding section is half the 
> width of the central part.
> 
> Sorry only have the UK link.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>>> On 8 Nov 2020, at 20:06, 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> I love my Logitech Keys to Go keyboard.  I’ve had it for 4 years and taken 
>> it traveling with me without any problems.  It holds a charge for at least 
>> 30 days.  It weighs almost nothing, in fact it seems flimsy at first.  It’s 
>> water proof except for the port and switch but the keys are water proof. The 
>> keys are near normal  size but given how thin it is it took a little getting 
>> used to.  I love the actio in the  keys.
>> 
>> They should pay me to promote it.  Grin
>> 
>> Kim
>> 
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>>> 
>>> What is a good portable Bluetooth keyboard? All  recommendations are 
>>> appreciated.
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Re: Air Pods Pro

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Can you connect the AirPods Pro to the over the ear adapter? Or are they 
different headphones?
Interesting if that is the case. How does that work?
Are you talking about over the ear headphones as well?
Thank you.


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> On Nov 6, 2020, at 12:34 PM, jo Hart  wrote:
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> 
> I too had the same issue.  After checking it out I found that Apple has the 
> over the ear price that you can connect to them and they work perfect.
> 
>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 11:12 AM Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have a pair and I love them except one thing. They tend to fall out of my 
>> ears more than the original air pods did. I have messed with the ear tips 
>> that came with them, but they still just fall out. Anyway, that is my two 
>> cents worth. Other than that, I love them. The noise canceling is awesome!
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
 On Nov 6, 2020, at 8:48 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
 
>>> Hi Rich,
>> 
>>> 
>>> David Woodbridge did a detailed review of them on his isee podcast. He 
>>> liked them a lot.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
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 Have any of you had any experience with the Air Pods Pro? I’d love to hear 
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Re: Considering a Mac book air

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Hello,

Hope this message finds you all well.
I have a Mac and I have used it for several years now.  I have not used a 
Windows PC since 2010, so, I have no idea about the recent advancements  of the 
jaws screen reader Because the last operating system within the windows 
platforms was either windows XP or Vista  if I   recall well enough. After 
graduating college,  I decided to try out a Mac because one of my friends had 
one and she was showing me all of the cool accessibility features on the Apple 
max. Before purchasing, I went to take some classes at the Apple store and the 
staff was nice enough to show me how to use voiceover. After  I purchased my 
first Mac laptop, I never looked back because the accessibility features were 
great. In my opinion, they were better than the Jaws  Screen reader I  used to 
use back then. My windows laptop was on its last leg anyway, so that was the 
main reason why I purchased  it at the time. Also, buying a Mac is 
cost-effective because you do not have to spend additional money on making your 
product more accessible. Not many blind people are able to afford paying a 
premium price to get a screen reader that is essential for work or school, 
unless an organization is willing to help with the cost associated Which also 
means going through the process of sending in paperwork to prove that you are 
either in school, looking for a job or at work in some cases.
Best,
Priscilla


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> On Oct 16, 2020, at 2:39 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
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> Hi Jen,
> 
> Just like on the iPhone, VoiceOver is built in, so you don't need anything 
> else to make it accessible.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
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>> Hi I am considering getting a Mac book air don’t really know nothing about 
>> them so wondering other than the device itself are there any other 
>> accessories I would need to make it accessible is there a certain amount of 
>> memory that is best when you are using voiceover and anything else anyone 
>> would wish to share about them to help make my purchasing easier and more 
>> informative.
>> Jen
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Re: Mark on YouTube TV for iOS 14 and iPad OS 14

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Can you sign up to the free trial by using the iOS YouTube TV app?

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> On Sep 23, 2020, at 9:13 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Okay, it's official, I am now a "cord cutter".  
> 
> I started my 5-day free trial of YouTube TV, today.
> 
> So far, so good.  
> 
> The iPad OS 14 app works better than I would have expected.  One thing I
> like is the ability to pause the live stream while navigating television
> listings.  
> 
> It is obvious that the developers have had a lot of great feedback from
> VoiceOver users.
> 
> I like the YouTube TV app, for TV OS 14, aside from the OS navigation issues
> that have nothing to do with the app, itself.  Again, even on Apple TV, one
> can pause the live stream while navigating the television listings; albeit
> not quite as intuitively.  
> 
> Pairing my Apple TV to my YouTube TV account was simply a matter of entering
> an on-screen code, displayed via the Apple TV App, into my iPad app.  Very
> simple and easy.
> 
> The DVR feature is extremely intuitive to use.  Simply stated, it just
> works.  
> 
> Again, all-in-all, so far, so good.
> 
> Mark
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Re: Beeping sound when swiping across screen

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Hi, what is voiceover recognition and how does it work anyway? What does it do?

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> On Sep 22, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hi, it has to do with voiceover recognition. You need to go into voiceover 
> settings and voiceover recognition, you can stop the beeps there.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Traci
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2020, at 8:48 AM, Terri Stimmel  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> 
>> I haven't updated to the latest version of IOS. But I plan to do this soon.
>> 
>> 
>> However, a friend of mine has. He's dealing with something odd, and he isn't 
>> sure why it's happening, or what to do about it. So I thought I would ask 
>> here, and see if any of you have any thoughts.
>> 
>> 
>> He says that when he swipes across the screen, he hears a beeping sound.
>> 
>> What is this?
>> 
>> And is there a way to stop it?
>> 
>> 
>> This is all the information I have. So if you all need to know more, please 
>> just let me know. I can ask my friend for more details.
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you, and help is much appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> Terri
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Re: Is there an alternative way to access the iOS 14 App library screen?

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Hi,
How do you hide the apps pages you don’t want or need with VoiceOver on IOS14?
Thank you.

> On Sep 17, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Alan,
> 
> You can hide the pages of apps that you don't access very often. That makes 
> it quicker to get to the library.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Alan Lemly > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi List,
>>  
>> I haven't installed iOS 14 yet but have been reviewing various podcasts on 
>> some of its new features. One of those I'm excited about is the App library. 
>> The way to access the App library is to go to your last home screen page and 
>> do a 3 finger swipe left. The problem is that I've never organized my apps 
>> into folders and since I have a lot of apps, I have 14 screens of them. I'm 
>> hoping the App library will do the organizing I've not done but I'd like an 
>> alternative way to access it. Can those of you who have already installed 
>> iOS 14 tell me if asking Siri to open the App library will work? If that 
>> doesn't, is there an alternative way to access it?
>>  
>> Thanks in advance for your help
>>  
>> Alan Lemly 
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Re: Brief summary of the apple Event, no new iPhone announced

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Maybe it would be later tonight who  knows.

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> On Sep 16, 2020, at 2:43 PM, Lynn White  wrote:
> 
> Yes, wireless chargers are definitely slower.
> By the way, it’s looking more and more as if Ios 14 won’t be today.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2020, at 1:18 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Question, do you think that the wireless charging pad is a little slower?
>> 
>> Plus, Jim and I were at the store today, saw Apple 10 foot cables for $3.99; 
>> they also have chargers there for a couple of dollars.
>> 
>> I have two wireless chargers though, and they are so handy, like hanging up 
>> an old phone. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 12:12 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Brief summary of the apple Event, no new iPhone announced
>> 
>> Use the one you have or buy a wireless charging pad which I prefer anyways, 
>> I haven't used the wall adapter which comes with my ipHone in ages.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> richr...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 11:17 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Brief summary of the apple Event, no new iPhone announced
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So if they are not shipping USB adapters with new Apple watches, how are you 
>> expected to charge them?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 1:14 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Brief summary of the apple Event, no new iPhone announced
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The event lasted a little over an hour and was nicely audio described.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Today’s event focused on the Watch Series 6 running Watch OS7 with a new 
>> blood oxygen censor, new sleep app, Family setup so each family member has 
>> their own phone number on the watch so everyone doesn’t need their own 
>> phone, and an always on altimeter.  The Family Setup with the phone numbers 
>> requires the cellular model.
>> 
>> Starting price $399 probably for Wi-Fi… available Friday, September 18th, 
>> orderable today.
>> 
>> Also, the lower cost Watch SE that has many of the new features of the 
>> Series 6, but not the blood oxygen censor, starts at $279.  Also available 
>> Friday the 18th.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> New iPad 8th generation and a new iPad Air both running iPad OS14.
>> 
>> iPads won’t be available until next month.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All the operating systems, iOS 14, iPad OS 14, and TV OS 14 will be released 
>> tomorrow, the 16th.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> No mention at all about a new phone.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
>> Herbert
>> 
>> 
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Re: Brief summary of the apple Event, no new iPhone announced

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Wouldn’t that constitute the same?  Only because the adapter you might need for 
the charging Cable to work is about $19. So, the price wouldn’t go down as much 
by excluding the charger from the packaging. they might as well compensate by 
giving us wireless chargers or at least a bundle that includes such products 
that can charge wirelessly since most of their products have that feature Or 
even  wireless EarPods as a discount. .



Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2020, at 8:09 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> I think they're still including the cord that you connect to the watch, just 
> not the charging brick.
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2020, at 6:07 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> it is a good point,
>>  
>> I take it you either have to purchase one or use a wifi charging pad with 
>> watch puck.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> richr...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2020 6:17 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Brief summary of the apple Event, no new iPhone announced
>>  
>> So if they are not shipping USB adapters with new Apple watches, how are you 
>> expected to charge them?
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 1:14 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Brief summary of the apple Event, no new iPhone announced
>>  
>> The event lasted a little over an hour and was nicely audio described.
>>  
>> Today’s event focused on the Watch Series 6 running Watch OS7 with a new 
>> blood oxygen censor, new sleep app, Family setup so each family member has 
>> their own phone number on the watch so everyone doesn’t need their own 
>> phone, and an always on altimeter.  The Family Setup with the phone numbers 
>> requires the cellular model.
>> Starting price $399 probably for Wi-Fi… available Friday, September 18th, 
>> orderable today.
>> Also, the lower cost Watch SE that has many of the new features of the 
>> Series 6, but not the blood oxygen censor, starts at $279.  Also available 
>> Friday the 18th.
>>  
>> New iPad 8th generation and a new iPad Air both running iPad OS14.
>> iPads won’t be available until next month.
>>  
>> All the operating systems, iOS 14, iPad OS 14, and TV OS 14 will be released 
>> tomorrow, the 16th.
>>  
>> No mention at all about a new phone.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
>> Herbert
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Re: I O S 14

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Hi,
I watched the apple event, and I thought that the blood oxygen monitor on the 
Apple Watch is a huge deal because as blind people, we have very limited access 
to medical devices that are accessible to monitor vital signs, and this is 
especially essential for those with life-threatening chronic health conditions 
like heart-disease, diabetes, asthma and even COVID-19.
Knowing your blood oxygen level is very useful when fighting covid because you 
can be breathing and talking just fine, and not even know if your oxygen level 
is very low until you suddenly crash. Many of the pulse oximeters are 
inaccessible, or at least, I haven’t heard of talking pulse oximeters. So, if 
you are alone and fighting covid or some other chronic condition, how are you 
supposed to manage it if you don’t have the accessible technology without 
having to break the bank and deal with the insurance companies?
The Apple Watch is a cost-effective way to reduce the shopping cart of 
accessories we used to use every day just to accomplish basic tasks like 
tracking time, writing, reading, monitoring health  and others.

Also I like the fact that the apple bands can fit a wider variety of sizes 
without having to adjust any clasps because it is a challenge when wearing 
bracelets for me. I have very small wrists and often times bracelets fall off 
my hand, especially the bangles. I cannot really find bangles that fit right at 
least in adult sizes without some of them going up my arm. I think that the new 
Apple Watch is the big highlight from the apple event.
Last year, I went to try on the apple watches, and some of the bands were to 
loose on me and there was no way of adjusting them, especially for the leather 
band with the magnetic clasp. So my options at the time were the sports band 
that had the adjustable holes, having to adjust the watch to the second last or 
even the last hole in order to fit properly.



> On Sep 15, 2020, at 2:20 PM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> 
> A new update to what we have. Looks like. 
> 
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> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
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> Twitter: @lpnalda
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2020, at 1:16 PM, pattigj1...@gmail.com 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Is there a new apple tv coming out or just a new update to what we already 
>> have?
>> Patti
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> > > On Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 2:15 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: I O S 14
>>  
>> They always repost it later the same day or certainly by tomorrow.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
>> Herbert
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> > > On Behalf Of Noe Villeda
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 11:03 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: I O S 14
>>  
>> I wonder if they’ll repost the Apple event?
>> I am working from home, and wasn’t able to listen to it.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> > > On Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 9:21 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: I O S 14
>>  
>> You can use the following link from any apple device or with MicrosoftEdge 
>> on a Windows 10 computer:http://apple.com/apple-events/event-stream/ 
>> 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
>> Herbert
>>  
>> 
>> On Sep 15, 2020, at 6:14 AM, Wayne Merritt > > wrote:
>> 
>> I listen through the TWIT network. They offer running commentary on
>> the event as it happens, which does prevent you from hearing exactly
>> what was said, since the Apple event audio fades to the background.
>> However, often Apple shows videos and there's nothing useful for us
>> totals in those videos. Leo 

Re: I O S 14

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Hi,
You can watch on the Apple TV app.


> On Sep 15, 2020, at 2:03 PM, Noe Villeda  wrote:
> 
> I wonder if they’ll repost the Apple event?
> I am working from home, and wasn’t able to listen to it.
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 9:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: I O S 14
>  
> You can use the following link from any apple device or with MicrosoftEdge on 
> a Windows 10 computer:http://apple.com/apple-events/event-stream/ 
> 
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2020, at 6:14 AM, Wayne Merritt > > wrote:
>> 
>> I listen through the TWIT network. They offer running commentary on
>> the event as it happens, which does prevent you from hearing exactly
>> what was said, since the Apple event audio fades to the background.
>> However, often Apple shows videos and there's nothing useful for us
>> totals in those videos. Leo LePorte and is experts often will describe
>> what is shown for the listener. I heard once they have a counter and
>> can see how many are watching and listening to their stream, and can
>> adjust to offer more or less description based on those numbers.
>> Occasionally, I will go back and watch segments of the event on
>> YouTube later if I want to know what exactly they said. I have used
>> ooTunes to listen to TWIT, but one could also use TuneIn Radio or
>> other radio streaming apps.
>> 
>> Enjoy,
>> Wayne Merritt
>> 
>> On 9/15/20, Chris Chaffin > > wrote:
>> 
>>> It is also available to watch in the TV app on your iPhone. If you navigate
>>> by heading, it is very easy to find.
>>>  
>>> Chris
>>>  
>>>  
 On Sep 15, 2020, at 8:38 AM, Kay Malmquist >>> >
 wrote:
  
 
 Which reminds me.  What is the best way to listen to this?
  
  
 Kay Malmquist
 kay.malmqu...@gmail.com  
 "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
 himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
 hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
 granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)"
  
 - Edward Herbert
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Richard Turner
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: 
 Tuesday, September 15, 2020 7:20 AM
 Subject: Re: I O S 14
  
 Apple will be announcing that today during their event starting at 10 AM.
 Until Apple makes their announcement, no one will know.HTH,
  
  
  
 Richard
 "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
 himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
 hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
 granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
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Re: Writing in Spanish on the iPhone

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Hi everyone,
I use my phone to write in Spanish all the time since a lot of my family and 
friends speak Spanish.
I use the dictation method to write in Spanish, and if you go into the settings 
menu of your phone, you can add another keyboard. It’s under general and 
keyboard. The options are Spanish, (Mexico), Spanish (Latin-America) and 
Spanish (Spain).  

> On Sep 14, 2020, at 9:39 PM, Justin Harris  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone, I use my phone in Spanish, and have thus been writing in Spanish 
> for years. The methods described so far work just fine, but Sppanish Braille 
> screen input works great. All uncontracted. If you need to know the dots for 
> the accented letters and such, I am happy to help.
> 
> 
> Enviado desde mi iPhone
> 
>> El 09/14/2020, a la(s) 7:17 p. m., Jasmine Kotsay  
>> escribió:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I am also using Duolingo, and I like it pretty well! I am also learning to 
>> do the method where you slide your finger to get the accent mark you want.
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2020, at 3:11 PM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot, folks. I did add the keyboard, but I don't like that as well 
>>> as I like your method. I am now holding the key down and sliding to get the 
>>> symbol I want. It's tricky, but I like it better.
>>> 
>>> Kristeen Hughes
>>> 
 On Sep 12, 2020, at 9:18 AM, Kimberly  wrote:
 
 Christine,
 
 I’m taking spanish on duolingo as well. What I did was install the spanish 
 keyboard on the iPhone. Now whenever spanish is required for entry, the 
 phone shows the spanish keyboard rather than the english one. If you are 
 entering on the onscreen keyboard, I believe you still have to use the 
 hold and slide method that others have described. However, if you are 
 using a bluetooth keyboard. There are dedicated keys for entering accents 
 and the n with tilda. 
 
 The n tilde is the key to the right of the semicolon and the acute accent 
 is the next key to the right of that one.
 
 Kim
 
 Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
 True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence of 
 justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.
 
> On Sep 12, 2020, at 5:28 AM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> 
> I am learning German via the Duo Lingo app and need to use umlauts. I 
> don't know anything about Spanish but assume the same method applies. 
> So, If I want an a umlaut, I tap the letter a and keep my finger there, 
> first it offers some words but then it offers symbols and I slide my 
> finger to the right until I hear the a umlaut but there are other 
> offerings so maybe Spanish may be one of them. 
> In German I have a umlaut, a double s sign which is called something like 
> shafess s, an o and a u umlaut, and this method works for all of them, 
> except with the o and u umlauts I have to slide my finger to the left 
> rather than the right.
> Hope this works for you.
> Initially it is a bit of a faff, but you soon get used to it. 
> Alison
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone  
> Sent: 12 September 2020 03:00
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Writing in Spanish on the iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> I am taking Spanish with the Duolingo app. I do not know how to make 
> certain characters. For example, there is an E acute that Hass to be 
> done. Can someone tell me how to accomplish this? 
> 
> Kristeen Hughes
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Re: microphone input to bluetooth speaker

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Hi, have you tried the Alexa enabled speakers?
they are accessible and they could work as a loudspeaker if you connect your 
iPhone via Bluetooth.
 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 14, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Marty Hutchings  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> How much of a latency delay is there?
>  
> Love in Christ
> Marty
> If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William 
> Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and 
> fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
>  
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 8:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: microphone input to Bluetooth speaker
>  
> I found one called Bluetooth loud speaker.
> It works with Voiceover.
> After connecting to your Bluetooth speaker, in the app, you will want to 
> select play on.
> Then, the mic will go over the speaker.
> It has a $1.99 inapp purchase to what it says is unlock, which I think may be 
> to remove ads. It works at least in my quick test without that, but if it 
> does get rid of the ads, it will clean up the screen quite a bit.
> Here is the link.
> tps://apps.apple.com/us/app/Bluetooth-loudspeaker/id1462186966
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2020, at 5:36 AM, Dan  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Do any of you know of an app that will open the mic on an Iphone and then 
>> let you hear it on either earphones or preferably a bluetooth speaker?  I am 
>> looking to use it as a baby monitor for our very young grandson.  I have an 
>> app that is a baby monitor but it has stopped working and I can't figure out 
>> why.  It also requires the internet but I realized if I could find something 
>> like this then the internet wouldn't be needed.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Any help greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
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Re: Recommendations for Real Estate Apps

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Hi,
zillo  is a good app.
it is pretty accessible with voiceover.
I do not know how accessible it is with jaws since I have not used jaws  for 
more than 10 years. after having the Mac, I never looked back.




Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 11, 2020, at 10:08 AM, Angela L Griffith  
> wrote:
> 
> I like an app called Redfin.
> 
> Angela L Griffith
> Sent from my mobile phone
> 
>> On Sep 11, 2020, at 6:06 AM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, can anyone recommend a good accessible iOS app for searching for
>> rental properties? Or, if you know of good services with accessible
>> websites, that would be great as well. Thank you in advance.
>> 
>> Joe
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Re: looking for accessible apps for emergency info, wildfire especially. I live in Portland Oregon

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Hi,
Do you have government alerts turned on so that you can get alerts about 
natural disasters or other severe weather events including wild fires?
On my phone, whenever there are weather alerts or government issued alerts, my 
phone notifies me. That happened when COVID-19 hit our state very hard. I 
received alerts issued by the state on my phone and it’s pretty accessible.
Also, there is a registry for people with disabilities to register their mobile 
number in case of an emergency and it’ll give you alerts of disasters via 
texts. Each city and county has a registration page where you can register as a 
person with a disability to receive said emergency alerts via phone.
This is a very useful resource that explains how to register in your city 
and/or county.
Available at: https://www.portlandoregon.gov/civic/article/662307 

Sign-up page for public alerts:
https://www.publicalerts.org/signup 
You’ll have to type in your address in order to search for your county so that 
you can sign up for them.
If you have to evacuate due to an impending wildfire, make sure you prepare a 
pack with your essential technology, food, documents and any basic supplies for 
you and/or your pet if necessary. Make sure to have a relative’s contact on 
speed dial or as an emergency contact. If you have a medical ID on your iPhone 
set up, it’s best to set one of your contacts as an emergency contact just in 
case.
These wildfires are all as a result of dry conditions, intense heat and the 
wind caused by climate change.
This is indeed scary.

Hope this helps.

Priscilla



> On Sep 10, 2020, at 5:33 PM, Teresa Christian  wrote:
> 
> I'm in Portland Oregon and as I'm sure you've hear on the news we are
> having crazy wild fires.
> 
> I am having trouble finding a good way to get up to the minute info.
> 
> Most of the resources have maps and as we all know those are not accessible.
> 
> Also, a radio station here said on their website they have listed Red
> Cross centers to go tobut I didn't find anything on the website that
> gives that info. Its probably there but JAWS isn't seeing it.
> 
> Right now the fires I think are about 30 miles away from me.
> 
> If it should get to the  point that evac is necessary I have no car
> access out of here.
> 
> Thanks for any help!
> 
> Teresa☺
> 
> 
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Re: Apple's Siri & YouTube MobileApp & iOS13

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Hi,
When I try to open the YouTube app, I also receive the message “ YouTube hasn’t 
added support for that with Siri. “ 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 5, 2020, at 9:37 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> If Siri could close apps as well as open them, then I'd be more
> willing to use it to open apps.
> 
>> On 9/5/20, pegkan...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> On my part, sometimes it’s just because I’m lazy, and know that I can open
>> apps that way if I choose. It’s a luxury of choice.
>> 
>> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
>> 
 On Sep 5, 2020, at 8:55 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What is the point of using Siri to open apps.  I never ever use this
>>> feature of Siri.  For some reason ever since my iPhone turned Traitor
>>> and updated on me, Siri hasn't worked all that well.  I hope things
>>> settle down when IOS 14 comes out.  Also, I suppose, I should really
>>> delete some books off my iPhone, as there isn't much left of my 256
>>> gigs, since so much of it is taken up with audio books from both bard,
>>> and now audible.
>>> 
 On 9/5/20, davycupp...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Please do all report to Apple. AND DO report IT NOW don't sit back and
 relax
 like 90% of us DO!
 
 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Robin
 Verzonden: vrijdag 4 september 2020 23:30
 Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Onderwerp: RE: Apple's Siri & YouTube MobileApp & iOS13
 
 Since  it  still Works on  Apple's iOS12, (I  Think) the Problem/Issue
 lies
 with  Apple's
 iOS: More Specifically; Apple's iOS13.
 &
 MyReasoning for this is: Recently,
 Google  PushedOut an Update to its YouTube MobileApp, which
 GreatlyReduced
 the  Volume/Sound when  OpeningUp  the YouTube MobileApp, & this
 Issue/Problem  was  Experienced on Both  iOS12 as well as iOS13, & this
 is
 "why"  (I  Believe) this Time,  the Fault lies with Apple & its iOS
 updates
 (iOS13)
 
 At 12:54 PM 9/4/2020, you wrote:
> Well, it worked fine until the last updates.
> Maybe Google and Apple are having a spat again.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
> pass himself,† and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
> extending it.)"Â - Edward Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>  On Behalf Of pegkan...@gmail.com
> Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 12:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple's Siri & YouTube MobileApp & iOS13
> 
> Hi,
> I was told, that the reason this app is not supported by Siri, is
> because it is a Google app. Not sure if that information is correct but
> that’s the information I received.
> 
> Peggy Sent from my i phone☺ï¸
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Richard Turner
>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I just tried it and Siri said
> "YouTube hasn't added support for that with Siri."
>> Must have been a change in either 13.7 or the latest YouTube update.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the
> bridge over which he must pass himself,† and we forget that only
> grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is
> notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others,
> I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>  On Behalf Of Robin
>> Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 12:39 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple's Siri & YouTube MobileApp & iOS13
>> 
>> Is  AnyOne else Experiencing Difficulty using
> Apple's Siri to Open the YouTube MobileApp  on Apple's iOS13, as I
> recently Noticed that it's Impossible  for  Apple's Siri to Open the
> YouTube MobileApp?
>> 
>> But on  My XS MAX using Apple's iOS12, there
> isn't a  Problem or Issue with Apple's Siri Opening the YouTube
> MobileApp.
>> 
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Re: iOS 13.7 and exposure notifications

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Hi everyone, hope all of you are well. I updated to the latest software 
version. The exposure notification tab is no longer hidden so it’s closer to 
the emergency SOS tab on the Settings menu. I tried turning it on, but 
apparently, exposure notification is not currently available in my area. So to 
my understanding, I guess this means that my phone cannot share  any COVID-19 
exposure  data? I think that it is helpful to have these notifications so that 
this way we as blind people are more aware about the risks of exposure. We do 
not always know if we are 6 feet apart from another person because it is harder 
to tell even if you have a cane  on hand. unless you are a very tall person 
that requires a 6 foot long white cane.

 

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> On Sep 2, 2020, at 12:22 PM, Marie  wrote:
> 
> 
> I agree with that but we know there are too many who will not stop and think.
>  
> Marie
>  
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 9:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iOS 13.7 and exposure notifications
>  
> It will only cause panic if people do not read and think it through.
> It is clearly intended to be a very useful tool to help keep people safe at a 
> time when those who should be focused on that are not.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie
> Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 9:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS 13.7 and exposure notifications
>  
> I hope I am wrong, but fear this feature may cause undue panic at a time when 
> there is already too much of that.
>  
> Marie
>  
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2020 4:10 PM
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> Subject: iOS 13.7 and exposure notifications
>  
> Here is what it actually says about the notifications
> Exposure Notifications
> Turn on Exposure Notifications
> Exposure Notifications are off. If you turn them on, your Public Health 
> Authority can notify you of possible exposure to COVID-19.
> You can turn on Exposure Notifications from your Public Health Authority by 
> downloading their app in the App Store.
> Your iPhone is not collecting or sharing exposure notification data with 
> anyone. If you turn on Exposure Notifications, information related to your 
> exposures can only be shared with your permission.
> How Exposure Notifications work...
> Availability Alerts
> Receive a notification if Exposure Notifications are available in your 
> current region. Your region is determined by your iPhone and does not leave 
> your device.
>  
>  
>  
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Re: Question About the Newer Phones

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Hi,
I never knew that feature exists.
I’ve never heard of the tap to wake feature before.
What is it and what does it do? I have the iphone11


Priscilla

> On Aug 27, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> Yes. On the newer iPhone 10 and 11 series, there is a setting called
> Tap to Wake. Go to settings, Accessibility, Touch, and there will be a
> toggle for Tap to Wake further down the screen. This drove me crazy
> when I first got my 10R, and I called Apple Accessibility to learn how
> to fix it.
> 
> Be well,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
> On 8/27/20, Shirley Baker  wrote:
>> My sister who is sighted, has the X phone. She says you just barely touch it
>> and it goes all over the place. She has turned off raise to wake. She says
>> when she takes her finger and swipes from the bottom, it still doesn't help.
>> She believes it is too sensitive, especially when texting or taking
>> pictures. Is there a way to change the sensitivity of the phone? Any
>> suggestions would be appreciated.
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Re: Mac OCR and Scanners

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Hi Steve,
Hope you’re doing well.
I use a Mac and have this software from cerotech called Docuscan+. You can 
download it on the cerotech website.
It works for a Mac and scanners.
I have a portable scanner I used to use when at school. It is a cannon scanner 
which is also compatible with neat desk software according to the time I last 
checked on the original box. From what I can remember it is compatible with the 
Mac, and it works well for my needs because I can use any scanner with it.
For more info, go to http://www.serotek.com/docuscanplus 

Keep in mind you have to have a login username and pin to access it. They have 
free trials  for new users if the student doesn’t have an account with cerotech.
I had this for years since I started college  back in 2005 because it was part 
of the technology used for education.
You can ask student support services at the school if they have an activated 
license for docuscan+ which is about $299 for a copy. Also, blindness-oriented 
organizations like the commission for the blind in the student’s local state or 
county, the national Federation for the Blind, and others can help with 
purchase of the software.
If you have any further questions, pleas feel free to reply.

Hope this helps.

Thank you and have a nice day.

Best,
Priscilla

 

> On Aug 27, 2020, at 9:39 AM, Cook, Steve  wrote:
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> Hi All, 
>  
> I do not have much experience on a Mac. I am working with a college student 
> whom needs OCR software and a portable scanner. I know I will get differing 
> opinions , but what would you recommend?
>  
> Steve cook
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What's app web vs. What's App Mobile App

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Hi All,
Hope  you are doing well.
I have a couple questions about What’s app web vs. the What’s app Mobile app.
How accessible is the what’s app web client? Has anyone ever used what’s app 
web? If so, what has been your experience?
Is it less accessible than the mobile app?
I only use the mobile app, and it is very accessible for me. But I wanted to 
use what’s app web to see if it’s just as accessible with VoiceOver as it is in 
the mobile app. Does anyone use the mobile app as well? If so which do you all 
prefer, what’s app web and/or what’s app mobile?
Please reach out via reply at garcesp...@gmail.com 

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Best,

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Re: Orbit Writer and Pairing Devices

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Hi everyone,
Hope all of you are well despite this whole covid19 situation. I just have a 
question about the orbit writer. Is the orbit writer free for members of the 
talking library?
If so, how do you all request one?
Did any of you get the device when participating in the national convention?
I am considering getting one since I want a more portable braille display to 
always carry in my purse and keep up with reading braille.
I have the focus40 from freedom scientific even though it’s not the latest 
generation, but it works well for me.
 I mostly keep it at home since I use it with my Mac computer and it helps me 
still read braille.
What has been your experience with the orbit writer? And is their a difference 
between the orbit reader and orbit writer? If so, what is the difference?

I can be reached out at garcesp...@gmail.com 

Best,

Priscilla


> On Aug 5, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
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> Hi All,
>  
> There has been some discussion on pairing devices to the Orbit Writer. While 
> I haven’t received my unit, it’s due any day now, I’ve been studying the 
> manual and would like to offer a clarification that could easily be 
> confusing. Let’s say you wish to pair a device to the Writer on Bluetooth 
> Channel 2. You would activate the channel by pressing Space Left Arrow and 
> Dot 2. Now, here’s what I believe can be confusing. The manual indicates that 
> you should press the same key combination “to pair.”  This actually places 
> the channel into Pairing Mode. You then have to use your device’s Bluetooth 
> search function to actually connect the device. I realize the manual does 
> describe that process. At first, I was confused because I’m accustomed to 
> using the term Pairing Mode which the manual does not indicate in those 
> words. Perhaps this is obvious to everyone else, but people who are new to 
> pairing devices could be thrown off by this. I also realize that the biggest 
> adjustment I will have is depending on haptic feedback for all Writer System 
> events. I’ve never done this, I’ve always depended on a combination of speech 
> and braille. So there will be a learning curve here.
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Re: What have I done to my iPhone?

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Hi everyone,
Hope you’re doing well today.
To turn quicknav on or off, you actually press the left and right arrows 
simultaneously if using the keyboard on the Mac or other bluetooth keyboards 
that work with IOS.

Thanks,

Priscilla


> On Jul 31, 2020, at 8:42 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
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> Hi Jim,
> I’m not absolutely sure, but my guess is that you accidentally turned Quick 
> Nav on. As soon as I opened this reply to your message, I turned Quick Nav on 
> and there was no way to type in the message body without being bounced out of 
> the edit field. It’s been a while since I’ve done this with a bluetooth 
> keyboard (I’m typing on my Braille Sense U2 at the moment), but, if memory 
> serves, you can press the up and down arrows simultaneously and that should 
> turn Quick Nav on or off. 
> I hope that helps.
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Jim Portillo  wrote:
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>> Hi there,
>> 
>> I don’t know what I did, but my iPhone will no longer allow me to type when 
>> using a Bluetooth keyboard. I have two different ones paired, and both give 
>> me the same reactions. I can navigate with the keyboard just fine, but when 
>> I try and start typing, I get some sort of beep. I think I may have locked 
>> some kind of setting on the phone that is making the keyboard only act in a 
>> certain way. Does anyone have any idea what I might’ve done and how I can 
>> correct? Whatever I did, it was definitely accidental.
>> Jim
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone XR!
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Re: Zoom F6Hi folks, hi folks, Do any of you know of a blind users group for the zoom F6? There is an iPhone app that goes with it and I’d like to know more about it. I need help. Thanks

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Hi everyone,
For those interested in blind groups that address tech questions, there is a 
group called VLANJ Tech talks. It’s totally online due to COVID19 and they meet 
every fourth Wednesday of every month via zoom.
More info is available at: 
https://www.vlanj.org/tech-talks-teach-people-with-visual-impairment-tools-for-online-engagement/
 You can register for the series as well on the website.
This is a chance to share your experiences using technology like the iPhone, 
Apple Watch, and other gadgets and to address any questions you may have.
Hope this helps.
Thank you and have a wonderful rest of the weekend.

Best,

Priscilla


> On Jul 26, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Terry Nord  wrote:
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> You can fill your ears with music and your mouth with food, but, music won’t 
> make you fat.
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> On Jul 26, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Jenny Bomareto 
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> Is their a way to reverse the left and right rocker buttons either on the 
> display, or in the iPhone settings?
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Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

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Hi,
I have the same question about EarPods too. I would like to know what the 
difference is between the regular and pro version.
My iphone doesn’t support the standard 3.5 headphones anymore, and only my iPad 
does at the moment.
I intend to use them for zoom conferences, and when i go out, if i do anyway 
because of this pandemic.

Thank yo, and hope all is well,

Priscilla



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Re: Lightning Alert?

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Hi,
Hope you are doing well.
The Weather app from the weather channel gives me alerts for lightning., 
pollen, rain, severe weather and winter storms and now gives me information and 
updates about the coronavirus. 


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> One of the weather apps on my phone used to alert for lightning.  Our dog is 
> terrified of thunder, and the alert gave us time to put on her sweater which 
> seems to make a difference.  Whichever app it was, it doesn't alert any more. 
>  Is there an app that alerts for lightning?
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> Thx
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Re: Ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards

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Hello,
Hope you  are  doing well and staying healthy.  ,
I just got a keyboard that is pretty ergonomic for me. It comes with an iPad 
case that is made for the iPad 9.7 inch screen.
I got it on Amazon for about $50. The case of self rotates 360° so that you can 
use it as a tablet.

iPad Keyboard Case 9.7 for iPad... 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084ZS6NGG?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

They only have it in two colors, black and another one that I can’t recall.
It has a backlit keyboard which means that it can light up in the dark.
I have small hands so the keys are pretty big in nicely spaced out for me. so 
really, it is like a little petite laptop I can just take with me anywhere 
rather than lugging my MacBook Pro with other accessories on  a longer commute 
because it eventually takes a toll on my back after a while, especially when 
you stand waiting for the bus or subway for a long time. I worry less and feel 
safer  on the longer commute when taking my iPad  then I do when I take my 
laptop especially if I decide to eventually  go  to the city and come home in 
the evening for meetings and other activities in the future after this 
pandemic. Any questions about the keyboard, please feel free to reach out.
Thank you.
 

Priscilla



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> On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Richard Turner  
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> Has anyone run across a full sized ergonomic Bluetooth keyboard?
> I have a client who has very large hands and uses an Ergonomic keyboard on 
> his Windows computer and would really like a Bluetooth one to use with the 
> iPad/iPhone.  He does not need the numpad, but would take it if one exists.
> I had looked around for someone else a few years ago but came up empty.
>  
> iClever sells a foldable one that they claim is ergonomic, but not if you are 
> a touch typist since the m and n keys are pushed way over so that the m is 
> where the n should be and the comma is where the m should be.
> Not impressed.
> normal
> Thanks,
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
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Re: How accessible is an Apple watch

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Hi everyone,
Hope all of you are doing well. I too have the same questions as I do not own 
an apple watch. However, I am looking into purchasing it in the future. I was 
going to purchase one, but unfortunately, the pandemic hit so I am unable to 
try one  on for myself. Also, I have an added challenge because I have small 
wrists since I am very petite. Does the Apple Watch fit small wrists?
Also, did you buy the EarPods when you got the Apple Watch in order to hear the 
VoiceOver on the Apple Watch while in crowded settings?
How are you able to hear VoiceOver through the Apple Watch if you don’t own 
EarPods in noisy environments?
Can the Apple Watch serve as a suplemental mobility aid for navigation in 
addition to other tools like a cane or service dog?
What were the primary reasons for purchasing the Apple Watch?
For those of you who are totally blind, what are the most important uses for 
your Apple Watch?


Hope this helps.
Stay safe  and take care,

Priscilla




> On Jun 16, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Terri Stimmel  
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> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I am curious to learn more about the Apple watch.
> 
> 
> How accessible are they?
> 
> Are they easy to use? Or more difficult?
> 
> For those of you who have them, what sorts of things do you do with them?
> 
> 
> Can you track your heartbeat with them?
> 
> What about your sleep?
> 
> 
> Any thoughts are much appreciated. Also, if anyone knows of any tutorials, or 
> things I could read, please pass them along.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
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> 
> Terri
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Re: Pronunciation of a word

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Hi,
It could be that the Alison boys pronounces her words differently. I am using 
it right now and it sure does this because instead of pronouncing as June  18th 
 it says June teenth. It also pronounce the word honor as honore. The word her 
is pronounced as er.
in this case I think the voice you select matters in terms of pronunciation 
purposes.
I prefer to use the Alex voice because it is very clear.

 

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> On Jun 12, 2020, at 11:59 PM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Hi Karen,
> 
> Maybe check to see if spelling the word "peace" like this, "pese" helps any.
> 
> Tranquility be with you,
> 
> James B  -Original Message-  From: 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone 
>  
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Pronunciation of a word
> 
>Hi, all,
> I'm sorry if this has been covered, but this is driving me batty. 
> When I hear the word "peace" on my iPhone, it is always pronounced 
> "peas." Now, it doesn't matter if I try to change the pronunciation 
> in the correct place in Settings. No matter what I do, and I have 
> tried many, many things, it always gives me the same outcome. I'm 
> using the Alison voice if that matters. Just drives me nuts. When I 
> hear "Lord, please give me peace," I don't want him to give me a 
> scoop of veggies, so does anyone have any ideas here?
> 
> TIA,
> Karen
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Re: free mp3 recorder?

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The voice memos Apple app does a good job when it comes to recording. I use it 
for recording lectures or notes and it is enough for my needs.

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> https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/voice-recorder-pro-recording/id492995106
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>>> On 12 Jun 2020, at 4:40 PM, The wolf  wrote:
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>> Hello any one know of a free mp3 recorder that works with voice over?
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
>> Hank
>> 
>> 
>> over?
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Re: Question about Using iPad

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Hi,
If you have the 10 inch version of the iPad Pro, you can get the apple keyboard 
that can attach to the magnetic portion of your iPad online  at the Apple Store.
Smart Keyboard for iPad (7th generation) and iPad Air (3rd generation) - US 
English

https://store.apple.com/xc/product/MX3L2LL/A

But if you want a cheaper keyboard case you can get this iPad keyboard case 
that can make it into a convertible laptop/tablet.

The only thing is that the keyboard case does not detach Which is fine with me 
for now.
  iPad Keyboard Case 9.7 for iPad... 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084ZS6NGG?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Keep in mind that this case is for the 9.7 inch iPad which is smaller than the 
one you have. You can find similar ones over at Amazon that is made for bigger 
iPads.
 
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> On Jun 12, 2020, at 5:28 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> I have an 10.5 iPad which I don't use a lot, but I want to use it
> more.  So far I have used it for work-related stuff.  Testing the
> accessibility of web applications and the like.
> 
> I don't have a keyboard or braille display connected to the iPad yet.
> I am interested in which keyboard case you got from Amazon since I
> have been considering getting one as well.
> 
> I have used zoom on the ipad, although since my team likes to use zoom
> with video, I used my iPhone recently because it was easier to hold up
> than the iPad.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Stay safe!
> Donald
> 
>> On 6/12/20, Priscilla Garces (prisci)  wrote:
>> Hi everyone, hope this message finds you all well. I have a couple of
>> questions about iPads and usage by people with either low vision or who are
>> totally blind..
>> Do any of you own  an iPad?
>> if so, what is your primary use for it?
>> Is the iPad a supplement for working on your laptops or desktops, or is it
>> your main computer?
>> what kind of keyboard or braille display  do you use with your iPad if you
>> use one?
>> Do you use the iPad for virtual meetings now that everyone is moving on to
>> online classes and work due to the COVID-19 pandemic?
>> 
>> 
>> I have both an iPhone and a Mac computer.
>> I primarily bought an iPad so I can do my work while I am away from home
>> since my computer is now my main desktop. I preferred to travel with the
>> iPad rather than my computer for long commutes. overtime, heavy bags with
>> laptops  can take a toll on my  back. I  use it as a notetaker since I do
>> not currently own  any of the dedicated notetakers that feature braille
>> displays like the braille note. Instead, I have a focus 40 braille display
>> that I use with both my iPhone and iPad, but the only drawback is that it is
>> not very portable because it does not fit into my purses. However, I like
>> the fact that the iPad is functioning more and more like a laptop with  each
>> newsoftware update since I recently bought myself a keyboard case from
>> Amazon. It is similar  to  the keyboards found on  the Apple laptops because
>> the commands needed to access various functions like a dedicated home screen
>> are accessible with just one key which is the escape key. The keys are nice
>> and comfortable to type on, and sSmall keyboards are not really a problem
>> for me since I have small hands. Because of the four vents  that represent
>> the newer speakers,  it is actually made for the iPad Pro but it fits my
>> current 5 Generation iPad just right and it automatically wakes up the
>> screen once I open it.
>> I was just wondering about this.
>> Stay safe and take care,
>> Priscilla
>> 
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Question about Using iPad

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Hi everyone, hope this message finds you all well. I have a couple of questions 
about iPads and usage by people with either low vision or who are totally 
blind..
Do any of you own  an iPad?
 if so, what is your primary use for it?
Is the iPad a supplement for working on your laptops or desktops, or is it your 
main computer?
what kind of keyboard or braille display  do you use with your iPad if you use 
one?
Do you use the iPad for virtual meetings now that everyone is moving on to 
online classes and work due to the COVID-19 pandemic?


I have both an iPhone and a Mac computer.
I primarily bought an iPad so I can do my work while I am away from home since 
my computer is now my main desktop. I preferred to travel with the iPad rather 
than my computer for long commutes. overtime, heavy bags with laptops  can take 
a toll on my  back. I  use it as a notetaker since I do not currently own  any 
of the dedicated notetakers that feature braille displays like the braille 
note. Instead, I have a focus 40 braille display that I use with both my iPhone 
and iPad, but the only drawback is that it is not very portable because it does 
not fit into my purses. However, I like the fact that the iPad is functioning 
more and more like a laptop with  each newsoftware update since I recently 
bought myself a keyboard case from Amazon. It is similar  to  the keyboards 
found on  the Apple laptops because the commands needed to access various 
functions like a dedicated home screen are accessible with just one key which 
is the escape key. The keys are nice and comfortable to type on, and sSmall 
keyboards are not really a problem for me since I have small hands. Because of 
the four vents  that represent the newer speakers,  it is actually made for the 
iPad Pro but it fits my current 5 Generation iPad just right and it 
automatically wakes up the screen once I open it.
I was just wondering about this.
Stay safe and take care,
Priscilla
   

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Re: Apple Music question and in no way a political statement!

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Hello,
I got the same message on the Apple Music tab. When I press the button, it does 
show a livestream of  music.


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> On Jun 2, 2020, at 4:57 PM, karl Smith  wrote:
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> I don't believe you can until tomorrow. This is apparently part of the music 
> industry's blackout Tuesday protest. Record labels and other music industry 
> companies and performers including Apple apparently decided they would do no 
> business today in solidarity with the black community.
> 
> Karl
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 2:26 PM
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> Subject: Apple Music question and in no way a political statement!
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> Hello friends,
> 
> Firstly as the subject says, this is an Apple Music question and Apple Music 
> alone.  I am not expressing a political view nor am I going to participate in 
> a discussion of recent events.
> 
> My question concerns Apple Music alone.
> 
> In the For You and Brows tabs I only see this message and not the usual 
> listings.
> 
> Listen Together
> 
> In steadfast support of the Black voices that define music, creativity, and 
> culture, we use ours. This moment calls upon us all to speak and act against 
> racism and injustice of all kinds. We stand in solidarity with Black 
> communities everywhere. #BlackLivesMatter #TheShowMustBePaused Button
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> How can I view the lists I used to see in their respective tabs.
> 
> Apple Music only responses please.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
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