Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

2015-07-10 Thread Robert Doc wright
Hurray I finally found the shuffle option for when I change the catagory to 
songs.  go to the mini player and DT playback progress, then touch just 
above the home button then flick to the right until you hear shuffle and 
DT.  Note that after setting this to on, whenever you return to the music 
app you only need DT any song and shuffle play commences.
- Original Message - 
From: Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


hi,

when you choose an album you searched for  in new I see play, add to
library and more.  more isthe one you wanna double tap.  If you flick
through those options you'll see  'make avalable offline.  that's the one
that downloads it to your divice.

Billy Maynard
- Original Message - 
From: Paul Ferrara paul.ferr...@twc.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


What options are before or after the online option; I simply have not found
that option yet?

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Chaffin

Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 3:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


By default, any music you add from Apple Music to My Music is not downloaded
to your device, so you will need either a WIFI connection or data in order
to stream and listen to it.
Now, if you want, there is an option in the more menu to make the music you
choose available offline.  By choosing this option, it will download the
selected music to your device.  Any music you make available offline does
not need any internet connection like WIFI or data to play.
But remember, all Apple Music is streamed unless you choose the option to
make it available offline.

Chris


Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 8, 2015, at 12:30 PM, Paul Ferrara paul.ferr...@twc.com wrote:

Please clarify; you only download if you buy it in iTunes, right?
If you store it in my music which is the iCloud library, listening to it 
uses up data?

If any of that is incorrect, please inform me.

Paul

-Original Message- From: christopher hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:57 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

It is recommended you use wifi unless you have a high or unlimited data 
plan to listen to music stored in your iCloud Music Library. When you 
download, it can be listened either online or offline, ideal for those on 
a limited data plan or whose local network is out of range.



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On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:34, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:

hi Chris,

Thank you for all your responces.  I have one more question.  If it's in 
the cloud library though  I'd eather use a local network or use up my 
data plan while listening right?  Downloadin was to save for offline 
listening Insidently isthre e   a way to hook up your car speakers 
bluetooth without it being so first?  wantedto listen to stuff onthe 
phone in the car.


thanks again,
Billy Maynard
- Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com

To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


Let's clear this first and foremost. You do not buy the music in Apple 
Music; you rent it, like you would rent a movie from Netflix. When you 
download from Apple Music, it is like downloading anything else to your 
device; space will be taken up on your device. You can, however, store as 
much music as you want in your iCloud Music library. This does not count 
towards your free 5 GB plan for iCloud storage.



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On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:07, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:

hi,

so, any music we buy or download from apple music isn't stored on the 
divice but, in iCloud music? does this take up your 5 gb of free storage 
in the iCloud space?  Wondering if I need to buy more storage or if 
there's a way to get it directly on my phone.   I bought a 125 gb phone 
for this specificly.


Billy Maynard
- Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com

To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


The iCloud Music Library is where all your purchased and matched content 
now belongs. It is also the home of anything you added from Apple Music.



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On 6 Jul 2015, at 20:56, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net 
wrote:


What is the iCloud music

Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

2015-07-09 Thread Billy Maynard

hi,

when you choose an album you searched for  in new I see play, add to 
library and more.  more isthe one you wanna double tap.  If you flick 
through those options you'll see  'make avalable offline.  that's the one 
that downloads it to your divice.


Billy Maynard
- Original Message - 
From: Paul Ferrara paul.ferr...@twc.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


What options are before or after the online option; I simply have not found
that option yet?

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Chaffin

Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 3:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


By default, any music you add from Apple Music to My Music is not downloaded
to your device, so you will need either a WIFI connection or data in order
to stream and listen to it.
Now, if you want, there is an option in the more menu to make the music you
choose available offline.  By choosing this option, it will download the
selected music to your device.  Any music you make available offline does
not need any internet connection like WIFI or data to play.
But remember, all Apple Music is streamed unless you choose the option to
make it available offline.

Chris


Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 8, 2015, at 12:30 PM, Paul Ferrara paul.ferr...@twc.com wrote:

Please clarify; you only download if you buy it in iTunes, right?
If you store it in my music which is the iCloud library, listening to it 
uses up data?

If any of that is incorrect, please inform me.

Paul

-Original Message- From: christopher hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:57 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

It is recommended you use wifi unless you have a high or unlimited data 
plan to listen to music stored in your iCloud Music Library. When you 
download, it can be listened either online or offline, ideal for those on 
a limited data plan or whose local network is out of range.



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On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:34, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:

hi Chris,

Thank you for all your responces.  I have one more question.  If it's in 
the cloud library though  I'd eather use a local network or use up my 
data plan while listening right?  Downloadin was to save for offline 
listening Insidently isthre e   a way to hook up your car speakers 
bluetooth without it being so first?  wantedto listen to stuff onthe 
phone in the car.


thanks again,
Billy Maynard
- Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com

To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


Let's clear this first and foremost. You do not buy the music in Apple 
Music; you rent it, like you would rent a movie from Netflix. When you 
download from Apple Music, it is like downloading anything else to your 
device; space will be taken up on your device. You can, however, store as 
much music as you want in your iCloud Music library. This does not count 
towards your free 5 GB plan for iCloud storage.



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On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:07, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:

hi,

so, any music we buy or download from apple music isn't stored on the 
divice but, in iCloud music? does this take up your 5 gb of free storage 
in the iCloud space?  Wondering if I need to buy more storage or if 
there's a way to get it directly on my phone.   I bought a 125 gb phone 
for this specificly.


Billy Maynard
- Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com

To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


The iCloud Music Library is where all your purchased and matched content 
now belongs. It is also the home of anything you added from Apple Music.



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On 6 Jul 2015, at 20:56, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net 
wrote:


What is the iCloud music library being referenced in these posts? 
Thanks.

Cher


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro

Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 7:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

I would have thought that the external drive was the back up.  I would 
have saving songs on that that were also contained on an internal 
drive.


- Original Message -
From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

2015-07-08 Thread Billy Maynard

hi robert,

I mostly ment that I wanted to download stuff to my phone to save on my data 
plan when streaming from  apple music  or the icloud music.  That's why I 
bought the 125 gig phone so I could store stuff and  not have to stream it 
when  not on a network.   Sorry for the confussion.  Also for movies and 
such.


Billy Maynard
- Original Message - 
From: Robert Doc wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 3:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


Out of curiosity how many music tracks do you have that you don't think 125
gigs will be enough?  I did some rough calculations and a gig of music is
approximately 174 tracks, which means with your 125gb you can come close to
uploading 20,000 tracks.
- Original Message - 
From: Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


hi Chris,

Thank you for all your responces.  I have one more question.  If it's in the
cloud library though  I'd eather use a local network or use up my data plan
while listening right?  Downloadin was to save for offline listening
Insidently isthre e   a way to hook up your car speakers  bluetooth without
it being so first?  wantedto listen to stuff onthe phone in the car.

thanks again,
Billy Maynard
- Original Message - 
From: christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com

To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


Let's clear this first and foremost. You do not buy the music in Apple
Music; you rent it, like you would rent a movie from Netflix. When you
download from Apple Music, it is like downloading anything else to your
device; space will be taken up on your device. You can, however, store as
much music as you want in your iCloud Music library. This does not count
towards your free 5 GB plan for iCloud storage.


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On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:07, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:

hi,

so, any music we buy or download from apple music isn't stored on the 
divice but, in iCloud music? does this take up your 5 gb of free storage 
in the iCloud space?  Wondering if I need to buy more storage or if 
there's a way to get it directly on my phone.   I bought a 125 gb phone 
for this specificly.


Billy Maynard
- Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com

To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


The iCloud Music Library is where all your purchased and matched content 
now belongs. It is also the home of anything you added from Apple Music.



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On 6 Jul 2015, at 20:56, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:

What is the iCloud music library being referenced in these posts? Thanks.
Cher


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro

Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 7:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

  I would have thought that the external drive was the back up.  I would 
have saving songs on that that were also contained on an internal drive.


- Original Message -
From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Music review


Sieghard as much as I agree with you about the backup, it's probably
the last thing he wanted to hear right now. I lost a 2tb drive a few
weeks ago that I didn't have completely backed up. I've had ITunes
mess up my library in the past. For this reason, I only give it access
to what I want on my phone. And yes I have more than one copy.

On 7/2/15, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

While this is definitely not a good thing, did you not have a backup?
After
all, what happens if your external drive had failed?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of BrianMiller
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music review



I had this very thing happen to me… Somehow iCloud music library got
engaged
and my entire library of ripped music got hijacked and disassembled and
disaggregated and otherwise entirely messed up… I have tens of thousands
of
songs I ripped from CDs and stored on my external harddrive, and all my
folders were messed up, songs missing, artwork, missing, things renamed,
things deleted, replaced, and all manner of havoc.  I spent years 
building

and organizing my library only to have it totally screwed

Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

2015-07-08 Thread Robert Doc wright
Out of curiosity how many music tracks do you have that you don't think 125 
gigs will be enough?  I did some rough calculations and a gig of music is 
approximately 174 tracks, which means with your 125gb you can come close to 
uploading 20,000 tracks.
- Original Message - 
From: Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


hi Chris,

Thank you for all your responces.  I have one more question.  If it's in the
cloud library though  I'd eather use a local network or use up my data plan
while listening right?  Downloadin was to save for offline listening
Insidently isthre e   a way to hook up your car speakers  bluetooth without
it being so first?  wantedto listen to stuff onthe phone in the car.

thanks again,
Billy Maynard
- Original Message - 
From: christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com

To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


Let's clear this first and foremost. You do not buy the music in Apple
Music; you rent it, like you would rent a movie from Netflix. When you
download from Apple Music, it is like downloading anything else to your
device; space will be taken up on your device. You can, however, store as
much music as you want in your iCloud Music library. This does not count
towards your free 5 GB plan for iCloud storage.


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On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:07, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:

hi,

so, any music we buy or download from apple music isn't stored on the 
divice but, in iCloud music? does this take up your 5 gb of free storage 
in the iCloud space?  Wondering if I need to buy more storage or if 
there's a way to get it directly on my phone.   I bought a 125 gb phone 
for this specificly.


Billy Maynard
- Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com

To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


The iCloud Music Library is where all your purchased and matched content 
now belongs. It is also the home of anything you added from Apple Music.



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On 6 Jul 2015, at 20:56, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:

What is the iCloud music library being referenced in these posts? Thanks.
Cher


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro

Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 7:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

  I would have thought that the external drive was the back up.  I would 
have saving songs on that that were also contained on an internal drive.


- Original Message -
From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Music review


Sieghard as much as I agree with you about the backup, it's probably
the last thing he wanted to hear right now. I lost a 2tb drive a few
weeks ago that I didn't have completely backed up. I've had ITunes
mess up my library in the past. For this reason, I only give it access
to what I want on my phone. And yes I have more than one copy.

On 7/2/15, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

While this is definitely not a good thing, did you not have a backup?
After
all, what happens if your external drive had failed?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of BrianMiller
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music review



I had this very thing happen to me… Somehow iCloud music library got
engaged
and my entire library of ripped music got hijacked and disassembled and
disaggregated and otherwise entirely messed up… I have tens of thousands
of
songs I ripped from CDs and stored on my external harddrive, and all my
folders were messed up, songs missing, artwork, missing, things renamed,
things deleted, replaced, and all manner of havoc.  I spent years 
building

and organizing my library only to have it totally screwed up.  I can’t
even
begin to think of what I’ve lost.







From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gmail
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 7:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music review



One thing I have heard that is quite dismaying is that when you turn on
iCloud Music Library, your library can get messed up. People have said
that
albums were split into two separate albums, that artwork was messed up

Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

2015-07-08 Thread Paul Ferrara

Please clarify; you only download if you buy it in iTunes, right?
If you store it in my music which is the iCloud library, listening to it 
uses up data?

If any of that is incorrect, please inform me.

Paul

-Original Message- 
From: christopher hallsworth

Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:57 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

It is recommended you use wifi unless you have a high or unlimited data plan 
to listen to music stored in your iCloud Music Library. When you download, 
it can be listened either online or offline, ideal for those on a limited 
data plan or whose local network is out of range.



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On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:34, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:

hi Chris,

Thank you for all your responces.  I have one more question.  If it's in 
the cloud library though  I'd eather use a local network or use up my data 
plan while listening right?  Downloadin was to save for offline listening 
Insidently isthre e   a way to hook up your car speakers  bluetooth 
without it being so first?  wantedto listen to stuff onthe phone in the 
car.


thanks again,
Billy Maynard
- Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com

To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


Let's clear this first and foremost. You do not buy the music in Apple 
Music; you rent it, like you would rent a movie from Netflix. When you 
download from Apple Music, it is like downloading anything else to your 
device; space will be taken up on your device. You can, however, store as 
much music as you want in your iCloud Music library. This does not count 
towards your free 5 GB plan for iCloud storage.



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On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:07, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:

hi,

so, any music we buy or download from apple music isn't stored on the 
divice but, in iCloud music? does this take up your 5 gb of free storage 
in the iCloud space?  Wondering if I need to buy more storage or if 
there's a way to get it directly on my phone.   I bought a 125 gb phone 
for this specificly.


Billy Maynard
- Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com

To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


The iCloud Music Library is where all your purchased and matched content 
now belongs. It is also the home of anything you added from Apple Music.



Visit my groups:

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On 6 Jul 2015, at 20:56, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net 
wrote:


What is the iCloud music library being referenced in these posts? 
Thanks.

Cher


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro

Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 7:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

 I would have thought that the external drive was the back up.  I would 
have saving songs on that that were also contained on an internal drive.


- Original Message -
From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Music review


Sieghard as much as I agree with you about the backup, it's probably
the last thing he wanted to hear right now. I lost a 2tb drive a few
weeks ago that I didn't have completely backed up. I've had ITunes
mess up my library in the past. For this reason, I only give it access
to what I want on my phone. And yes I have more than one copy.

On 7/2/15, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

While this is definitely not a good thing, did you not have a backup?
After
all, what happens if your external drive had failed?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of BrianMiller
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music review



I had this very thing happen to me… Somehow iCloud music library got
engaged
and my entire library of ripped music got hijacked and disassembled and
disaggregated and otherwise entirely messed up… I have tens of 
thousands

of
songs I ripped from CDs and stored on my external harddrive, and all my
folders were messed up, songs missing, artwork, missing, things 
renamed,
things deleted, replaced, and all manner of havoc.  I spent years 
building

and organizing my library only to have it totally screwed up.  I can’t
even
begin to think of what I’ve lost.







From: viphone

Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

2015-07-08 Thread Billy Maynard

hi,

There is if you're listening to a song or album  flicking right.  Play, add 
to library (this is your iCloud music library.  a more button that has many 
of the same functions but, a few more thre is an option that says make 
avalable offline. I assumethis would download it  to your divice  insted of 
putting it into your cloud library.


Billy Maynard

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Ferrara paul.ferr...@twc.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


Please clarify; you only download if you buy it in iTunes, right?
If you store it in my music which is the iCloud library, listening to it
uses up data?
If any of that is incorrect, please inform me.

Paul

-Original Message- 
From: christopher hallsworth

Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:57 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

It is recommended you use wifi unless you have a high or unlimited data plan
to listen to music stored in your iCloud Music Library. When you download,
it can be listened either online or offline, ideal for those on a limited
data plan or whose local network is out of range.


Visit my groups:

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On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:34, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:

hi Chris,

Thank you for all your responces.  I have one more question.  If it's in 
the cloud library though  I'd eather use a local network or use up my data 
plan while listening right?  Downloadin was to save for offline listening 
Insidently isthre e   a way to hook up your car speakers  bluetooth 
without it being so first?  wantedto listen to stuff onthe phone in the 
car.


thanks again,
Billy Maynard
- Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com

To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


Let's clear this first and foremost. You do not buy the music in Apple 
Music; you rent it, like you would rent a movie from Netflix. When you 
download from Apple Music, it is like downloading anything else to your 
device; space will be taken up on your device. You can, however, store as 
much music as you want in your iCloud Music library. This does not count 
towards your free 5 GB plan for iCloud storage.



Visit my groups:

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On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:07, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:

hi,

so, any music we buy or download from apple music isn't stored on the 
divice but, in iCloud music? does this take up your 5 gb of free storage 
in the iCloud space?  Wondering if I need to buy more storage or if 
there's a way to get it directly on my phone.   I bought a 125 gb phone 
for this specificly.


Billy Maynard
- Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com

To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


The iCloud Music Library is where all your purchased and matched content 
now belongs. It is also the home of anything you added from Apple Music.



Visit my groups:

The Chat Zone
the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
The Tech Zone
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Apple Music
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On 6 Jul 2015, at 20:56, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net 
wrote:


What is the iCloud music library being referenced in these posts? 
Thanks.

Cher


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro

Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 7:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

 I would have thought that the external drive was the back up.  I would 
have saving songs on that that were also contained on an internal drive.


- Original Message -
From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Music review


Sieghard as much as I agree with you about the backup, it's probably
the last thing he wanted to hear right now. I lost a 2tb drive a few
weeks ago that I didn't have completely backed up. I've had ITunes
mess up my library in the past. For this reason, I only give it access
to what I want on my phone. And yes I have more than one copy.

On 7/2/15, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

While this is definitely not a good thing, did you not have a backup?
After
all, what happens if your external drive had failed?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of BrianMiller
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music review



I had this very thing happen to me… Somehow

RE: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review/8.4 iOS update.

2015-07-08 Thread Rose Combs
Can someone explain the steps to use Just for you part of Apple music, I keep 
tapping for those I like, but they just keep coming back and I don't hear any 
music.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 9:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review/8.4 iOS update.

Okay, I have a problem. I have a 5S which is my primary phone, and is served by 
ATT. I also have an old 4S which I just use when it is connected to WI-FI. I 
updated the 5S to 8.4 Sunday, and am thoroughly enjoying Apple Music. Last 
night, I decided to update the 4S, and it installed well. However, this device 
cannot connect to the iCloud server. Can anyone tell me why? Before I updated 
both phones, they would automatically sync to whatever I did on either device.

Hope I made myself clear, and I would appreciate any input.
Thanks.
Lucy Edmonds

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Ferrara
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

Please clarify; you only download if you buy it in iTunes, right?
If you store it in my music which is the iCloud library, listening to it uses 
up data?
If any of that is incorrect, please inform me.

Paul

-Original Message-
From: christopher hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:57 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

It is recommended you use wifi unless you have a high or unlimited data plan to 
listen to music stored in your iCloud Music Library. When you download, it can 
be listened either online or offline, ideal for those on a limited data plan or 
whose local network is out of range.


Visit my groups:

The Chat Zone
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Apple Music
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 On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:34, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:

 hi Chris,

 Thank you for all your responces.  I have one more question.  If it's 
 in the cloud library though  I'd eather use a local network or use up 
 my data plan while listening right?  Downloadin was to save for offline 
 listening
 Insidently isthre e   a way to hook up your car speakers  bluetooth 
 without it being so first?  wantedto listen to stuff onthe phone in 
 the car.

 thanks again,
 Billy Maynard
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 2:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


 Let's clear this first and foremost. You do not buy the music in 
 Apple Music; you rent it, like you would rent a movie from Netflix. 
 When you download from Apple Music, it is like downloading anything 
 else to your device; space will be taken up on your device. You can, 
 however, store as much music as you want in your iCloud Music library. 
 This does not count towards your free 5 GB plan for iCloud storage.


 Visit my groups:

 The Chat Zone
 the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 The Tech Zone
 the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 Apple Music
 apple-music+subscr...@groups.io





 On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:07, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:

 hi,

 so, any music we buy or download from apple music isn't stored on the 
 divice but, in iCloud music? does this take up your 5 gb of free 
 storage in the iCloud space?  Wondering if I need to buy more storage or if
 there's a way to get it directly on my phone.   I bought a 125 gb phone 
 for this specificly.

 Billy Maynard
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


 The iCloud Music Library is where all your purchased and matched 
 content now belongs. It is also the home of anything you added from Apple 
 Music.


 Visit my groups:

 The Chat Zone
 the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 The Tech Zone
 the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 Apple Music
 apple-music+subscr...@groups.io





 On 6 Jul 2015, at 20:56, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net
 wrote:

 What is the iCloud music library being referenced in these posts? 
 Thanks.
 Cher


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro
 Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 7:35 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

  I would have thought that the external drive was the back up.  I 
 would have saving songs on that that were also contained on an internal 
 drive.

 - Original Message -
 From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com

RE: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review/8.4 iOS update.

2015-07-08 Thread Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)
Okay, I have a problem. I have a 5S which is my primary phone, and is served by 
ATT. I also have an old 4S which I just use when it is connected to WI-FI. I 
updated the 5S to 8.4 Sunday, and am thoroughly enjoying Apple Music. Last 
night, I decided to update the 4S, and it installed well. However, this device 
cannot connect to the iCloud server. Can anyone tell me why? Before I updated 
both phones, they would automatically sync to whatever I did on either device.

Hope I made myself clear, and I would appreciate any input.
Thanks.
Lucy Edmonds

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Ferrara
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

Please clarify; you only download if you buy it in iTunes, right?
If you store it in my music which is the iCloud library, listening to it uses 
up data?
If any of that is incorrect, please inform me.

Paul

-Original Message-
From: christopher hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:57 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

It is recommended you use wifi unless you have a high or unlimited data plan to 
listen to music stored in your iCloud Music Library. When you download, it can 
be listened either online or offline, ideal for those on a limited data plan or 
whose local network is out of range.


Visit my groups:

The Chat Zone
the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
The Tech Zone
the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
Apple Music
apple-music+subscr...@groups.io





 On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:34, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:

 hi Chris,

 Thank you for all your responces.  I have one more question.  If it's 
 in the cloud library though  I'd eather use a local network or use up 
 my data plan while listening right?  Downloadin was to save for offline 
 listening
 Insidently isthre e   a way to hook up your car speakers  bluetooth 
 without it being so first?  wantedto listen to stuff onthe phone in 
 the car.

 thanks again,
 Billy Maynard
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 2:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


 Let's clear this first and foremost. You do not buy the music in 
 Apple Music; you rent it, like you would rent a movie from Netflix. 
 When you download from Apple Music, it is like downloading anything 
 else to your device; space will be taken up on your device. You can, 
 however, store as much music as you want in your iCloud Music library. 
 This does not count towards your free 5 GB plan for iCloud storage.


 Visit my groups:

 The Chat Zone
 the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 The Tech Zone
 the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 Apple Music
 apple-music+subscr...@groups.io





 On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:07, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:

 hi,

 so, any music we buy or download from apple music isn't stored on the 
 divice but, in iCloud music? does this take up your 5 gb of free 
 storage in the iCloud space?  Wondering if I need to buy more storage or if
 there's a way to get it directly on my phone.   I bought a 125 gb phone 
 for this specificly.

 Billy Maynard
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


 The iCloud Music Library is where all your purchased and matched 
 content now belongs. It is also the home of anything you added from Apple 
 Music.


 Visit my groups:

 The Chat Zone
 the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 The Tech Zone
 the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 Apple Music
 apple-music+subscr...@groups.io





 On 6 Jul 2015, at 20:56, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net
 wrote:

 What is the iCloud music library being referenced in these posts? 
 Thanks.
 Cher


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro
 Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 7:35 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

  I would have thought that the external drive was the back up.  I 
 would have saving songs on that that were also contained on an internal 
 drive.

 - Original Message -
 From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 10:58 PM
 Subject: Re: Apple Music review


 Sieghard as much as I agree with you about the backup, it's probably 
 the last thing he wanted to hear right now. I lost a 2tb drive a few 
 weeks ago that I didn't have completely backed up. I've had ITunes 
 mess up my library in the past. For this reason, I only give it 
 access to what I want on my phone. And yes I have more than one copy.

 On 7/2/15, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 While this is definitely not a good thing, did you

Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

2015-07-08 Thread Paul Ferrara
Thank you; it would help if I had tried that particular menu before but had 
never brought it up so that's why I was not aware of the option.




-Original Message- 
From: Chris Chaffin

Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 6:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

When you are on the My Music tab, just go to the song or album you want to 
listen to offline, flick down with one finger until you hear more, than 
double tap.
You will get the pop up window with the list of choices, after the choice 
remove from my music, you will find the choice, make available offline. 
Just double tap this to download to your device.


Now, you can also reverse that.  If you had previously made some music 
available offline, but now want to put it back in the cloud to stream, you 
do the same thing as above, but instead of it saying make available offline, 
it will say, remove download.
And you would double tap that to remove it from your device and put it back 
in the cloud to stream again.


And of coarse, to remove it from your music library totally, you would 
choose remove from my music from the same pop up menu.


Hope this helps!

Chris


Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 8, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Paul Ferrara paul.ferr...@twc.com wrote:

What options are before or after the online option; I simply have not 
found that option yet?


-Original Message- From: Chris Chaffin
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 3:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


By default, any music you add from Apple Music to My Music is not 
downloaded to your device, so you will need either a WIFI connection or 
data in order to stream and listen to it.
Now, if you want, there is an option in the more menu to make the music 
you choose available offline.  By choosing this option, it will download 
the selected music to your device.  Any music you make available offline 
does not need any internet connection like WIFI or data to play.
But remember, all Apple Music is streamed unless you choose the option to 
make it available offline.


Chris


Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 8, 2015, at 12:30 PM, Paul Ferrara paul.ferr...@twc.com wrote:

Please clarify; you only download if you buy it in iTunes, right?
If you store it in my music which is the iCloud library, listening to it 
uses up data?

If any of that is incorrect, please inform me.

Paul

-Original Message- From: christopher hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:57 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

It is recommended you use wifi unless you have a high or unlimited data 
plan to listen to music stored in your iCloud Music Library. When you 
download, it can be listened either online or offline, ideal for those on 
a limited data plan or whose local network is out of range.



Visit my groups:

The Chat Zone
the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
The Tech Zone
the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
Apple Music
apple-music+subscr...@groups.io






On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:34, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:

hi Chris,

Thank you for all your responces.  I have one more question.  If it's in 
the cloud library though  I'd eather use a local network or use up my 
data plan while listening right?  Downloadin was to save for offline 
listening Insidently isthre e   a way to hook up your car speakers 
bluetooth without it being so first?  wantedto listen to stuff onthe 
phone in the car.


thanks again,
Billy Maynard
- Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com

To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


Let's clear this first and foremost. You do not buy the music in Apple 
Music; you rent it, like you would rent a movie from Netflix. When you 
download from Apple Music, it is like downloading anything else to your 
device; space will be taken up on your device. You can, however, store 
as much music as you want in your iCloud Music library. This does not 
count towards your free 5 GB plan for iCloud storage.



Visit my groups:

The Chat Zone
the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
The Tech Zone
the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
Apple Music
apple-music+subscr...@groups.io






On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:07, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:

hi,

so, any music we buy or download from apple music isn't stored on the 
divice but, in iCloud music? does this take up your 5 gb of free 
storage in the iCloud space?  Wondering if I need to buy more storage 
or if there's a way to get it directly on my phone.   I bought a 125 gb 
phone for this specificly.


Billy Maynard
- Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com

To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


The iCloud Music Library is where all your purchased and matched 
content now belongs. It is also the home of anything you

Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

2015-07-08 Thread Chris Chaffin
When you are on the My Music tab, just go to the song or album you want to 
listen to offline, flick down with one finger until you hear more, than double 
tap.
You will get the pop up window with the list of choices, after the choice 
remove from my music, you will find the choice, make available offline.  Just 
double tap this to download to your device.

Now, you can also reverse that.  If you had previously made some music 
available offline, but now want to put it back in the cloud to stream, you do 
the same thing as above, but instead of it saying make available offline, it 
will say, remove download.
And you would double tap that to remove it from your device and put it back in 
the cloud to stream again.

And of coarse, to remove it from your music library totally, you would choose 
remove from my music from the same pop up menu.

Hope this helps!

Chris


Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 8, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Paul Ferrara paul.ferr...@twc.com wrote:
 
 What options are before or after the online option; I simply have not found 
 that option yet?
 
 -Original Message- From: Chris Chaffin
 Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 3:04 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 By default, any music you add from Apple Music to My Music is not downloaded 
 to your device, so you will need either a WIFI connection or data in order to 
 stream and listen to it.
 Now, if you want, there is an option in the more menu to make the music you 
 choose available offline.  By choosing this option, it will download the 
 selected music to your device.  Any music you make available offline does not 
 need any internet connection like WIFI or data to play.
 But remember, all Apple Music is streamed unless you choose the option to 
 make it available offline.
 
 Chris
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 8, 2015, at 12:30 PM, Paul Ferrara paul.ferr...@twc.com wrote:
 
 Please clarify; you only download if you buy it in iTunes, right?
 If you store it in my music which is the iCloud library, listening to it 
 uses up data?
 If any of that is incorrect, please inform me.
 
 Paul
 
 -Original Message- From: christopher hallsworth
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:57 PM
 To: Viphone
 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
 
 It is recommended you use wifi unless you have a high or unlimited data plan 
 to listen to music stored in your iCloud Music Library. When you download, 
 it can be listened either online or offline, ideal for those on a limited 
 data plan or whose local network is out of range.
 
 
 Visit my groups:
 
 The Chat Zone
 the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 The Tech Zone
 the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 Apple Music
 apple-music+subscr...@groups.io
 
 
 
 
 
 On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:34, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 hi Chris,
 
 Thank you for all your responces.  I have one more question.  If it's in 
 the cloud library though  I'd eather use a local network or use up my data 
 plan while listening right?  Downloadin was to save for offline listening 
 Insidently isthre e   a way to hook up your car speakers bluetooth without 
 it being so first?  wantedto listen to stuff onthe phone in the car.
 
 thanks again,
 Billy Maynard
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 2:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 Let's clear this first and foremost. You do not buy the music in Apple 
 Music; you rent it, like you would rent a movie from Netflix. When you 
 download from Apple Music, it is like downloading anything else to your 
 device; space will be taken up on your device. You can, however, store as 
 much music as you want in your iCloud Music library. This does not count 
 towards your free 5 GB plan for iCloud storage.
 
 
 Visit my groups:
 
 The Chat Zone
 the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 The Tech Zone
 the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 Apple Music
 apple-music+subscr...@groups.io
 
 
 
 
 
 On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:07, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 hi,
 
 so, any music we buy or download from apple music isn't stored on the 
 divice but, in iCloud music? does this take up your 5 gb of free storage 
 in the iCloud space?  Wondering if I need to buy more storage or if 
 there's a way to get it directly on my phone.   I bought a 125 gb phone 
 for this specificly.
 
 Billy Maynard
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 The iCloud Music Library is where all your purchased and matched content 
 now belongs. It is also the home of anything you added from Apple Music.
 
 
 Visit my groups:
 
 The Chat Zone
 the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 The Tech Zone
 the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 Apple Music
 apple-music+subscr...@groups.io

Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

2015-07-08 Thread Chris Chaffin

By default, any music you add from Apple Music to My Music is not downloaded to 
your device, so you will need either a WIFI connection or data in order to 
stream and listen to it.
Now, if you want, there is an option in the more menu to make the music you 
choose available offline.  By choosing this option, it will download the 
selected music to your device.  Any music you make available offline does not 
need any internet connection like WIFI or data to play.
But remember, all Apple Music is streamed unless you choose the option to make 
it available offline.

Chris


Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 8, 2015, at 12:30 PM, Paul Ferrara paul.ferr...@twc.com wrote:
 
 Please clarify; you only download if you buy it in iTunes, right?
 If you store it in my music which is the iCloud library, listening to it uses 
 up data?
 If any of that is incorrect, please inform me.
 
 Paul
 
 -Original Message- From: christopher hallsworth
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:57 PM
 To: Viphone
 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
 
 It is recommended you use wifi unless you have a high or unlimited data plan 
 to listen to music stored in your iCloud Music Library. When you download, it 
 can be listened either online or offline, ideal for those on a limited data 
 plan or whose local network is out of range.
 
 
 Visit my groups:
 
 The Chat Zone
 the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 The Tech Zone
 the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 Apple Music
 apple-music+subscr...@groups.io
 
 
 
 
 
 On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:34, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 hi Chris,
 
 Thank you for all your responces.  I have one more question.  If it's in the 
 cloud library though  I'd eather use a local network or use up my data plan 
 while listening right?  Downloadin was to save for offline listening 
 Insidently isthre e   a way to hook up your car speakers  bluetooth without 
 it being so first?  wantedto listen to stuff onthe phone in the car.
 
 thanks again,
 Billy Maynard
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 2:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 Let's clear this first and foremost. You do not buy the music in Apple 
 Music; you rent it, like you would rent a movie from Netflix. When you 
 download from Apple Music, it is like downloading anything else to your 
 device; space will be taken up on your device. You can, however, store as 
 much music as you want in your iCloud Music library. This does not count 
 towards your free 5 GB plan for iCloud storage.
 
 
 Visit my groups:
 
 The Chat Zone
 the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 The Tech Zone
 the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 Apple Music
 apple-music+subscr...@groups.io
 
 
 
 
 
 On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:07, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 hi,
 
 so, any music we buy or download from apple music isn't stored on the 
 divice but, in iCloud music? does this take up your 5 gb of free storage in 
 the iCloud space?  Wondering if I need to buy more storage or if there's a 
 way to get it directly on my phone.   I bought a 125 gb phone for this 
 specificly.
 
 Billy Maynard
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 The iCloud Music Library is where all your purchased and matched content 
 now belongs. It is also the home of anything you added from Apple Music.
 
 
 Visit my groups:
 
 The Chat Zone
 the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
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 On 6 Jul 2015, at 20:56, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 What is the iCloud music library being referenced in these posts? Thanks.
 Cher
 
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Gary Petraccaro
 Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 7:35 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
 
 I would have thought that the external drive was the back up.  I would 
 have saving songs on that that were also contained on an internal drive.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 10:58 PM
 Subject: Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 Sieghard as much as I agree with you about the backup, it's probably
 the last thing he wanted to hear right now. I lost a 2tb drive a few
 weeks ago that I didn't have completely backed up. I've had ITunes
 mess up my library in the past. For this reason, I only give it access
 to what I want on my phone. And yes I have more than one copy.
 
 On 7/2/15, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 While this is definitely not a good thing, did you not have a backup?
 After
 all, what happens if your external drive

Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

2015-07-08 Thread Paul Ferrara
What options are before or after the online option; I simply have not found 
that option yet?


-Original Message- 
From: Chris Chaffin

Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 3:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


By default, any music you add from Apple Music to My Music is not downloaded 
to your device, so you will need either a WIFI connection or data in order 
to stream and listen to it.
Now, if you want, there is an option in the more menu to make the music you 
choose available offline.  By choosing this option, it will download the 
selected music to your device.  Any music you make available offline does 
not need any internet connection like WIFI or data to play.
But remember, all Apple Music is streamed unless you choose the option to 
make it available offline.


Chris


Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 8, 2015, at 12:30 PM, Paul Ferrara paul.ferr...@twc.com wrote:

Please clarify; you only download if you buy it in iTunes, right?
If you store it in my music which is the iCloud library, listening to it 
uses up data?

If any of that is incorrect, please inform me.

Paul

-Original Message- From: christopher hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:57 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

It is recommended you use wifi unless you have a high or unlimited data 
plan to listen to music stored in your iCloud Music Library. When you 
download, it can be listened either online or offline, ideal for those on 
a limited data plan or whose local network is out of range.



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On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:34, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:

hi Chris,

Thank you for all your responces.  I have one more question.  If it's in 
the cloud library though  I'd eather use a local network or use up my 
data plan while listening right?  Downloadin was to save for offline 
listening Insidently isthre e   a way to hook up your car speakers 
bluetooth without it being so first?  wantedto listen to stuff onthe 
phone in the car.


thanks again,
Billy Maynard
- Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com

To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


Let's clear this first and foremost. You do not buy the music in Apple 
Music; you rent it, like you would rent a movie from Netflix. When you 
download from Apple Music, it is like downloading anything else to your 
device; space will be taken up on your device. You can, however, store as 
much music as you want in your iCloud Music library. This does not count 
towards your free 5 GB plan for iCloud storage.



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On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:07, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:

hi,

so, any music we buy or download from apple music isn't stored on the 
divice but, in iCloud music? does this take up your 5 gb of free storage 
in the iCloud space?  Wondering if I need to buy more storage or if 
there's a way to get it directly on my phone.   I bought a 125 gb phone 
for this specificly.


Billy Maynard
- Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com

To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


The iCloud Music Library is where all your purchased and matched content 
now belongs. It is also the home of anything you added from Apple Music.



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On 6 Jul 2015, at 20:56, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net 
wrote:


What is the iCloud music library being referenced in these posts? 
Thanks.

Cher


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro

Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 7:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

I would have thought that the external drive was the back up.  I would 
have saving songs on that that were also contained on an internal 
drive.


- Original Message -
From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Music review


Sieghard as much as I agree with you about the backup, it's probably
the last thing he wanted to hear right now. I lost a 2tb drive a few
weeks ago that I didn't have completely backed up. I've had ITunes
mess up my library in the past. For this reason, I only give it access
to what I want on my phone. And yes I have more than one copy.


On 7/2/15, Sieghard Weitzel siegh

Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

2015-07-07 Thread Billy Maynard

hi Chris,

Thank you for all your responces.  I have one more question.  If it's in the 
cloud library though  I'd eather use a local network or use up my data plan 
while listening right?  Downloadin was to save for offline listening 
Insidently isthre e   a way to hook up your car speakers  bluetooth without 
it being so first?  wantedto listen to stuff onthe phone in the car.


thanks again,
Billy Maynard
- Original Message - 
From: christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com

To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


Let's clear this first and foremost. You do not buy the music in Apple 
Music; you rent it, like you would rent a movie from Netflix. When you 
download from Apple Music, it is like downloading anything else to your 
device; space will be taken up on your device. You can, however, store as 
much music as you want in your iCloud Music library. This does not count 
towards your free 5 GB plan for iCloud storage.



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On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:07, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:

hi,

so, any music we buy or download from apple music isn't stored on the 
divice but, in iCloud music? does this take up your 5 gb of free storage 
in the iCloud space?  Wondering if I need to buy more storage or if 
there's a way to get it directly on my phone.   I bought a 125 gb phone 
for this specificly.


Billy Maynard
- Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com

To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


The iCloud Music Library is where all your purchased and matched content 
now belongs. It is also the home of anything you added from Apple Music.



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On 6 Jul 2015, at 20:56, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:

What is the iCloud music library being referenced in these posts? Thanks.
Cher


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro

Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 7:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

  I would have thought that the external drive was the back up.  I would 
have saving songs on that that were also contained on an internal drive.


- Original Message -
From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Music review


Sieghard as much as I agree with you about the backup, it's probably
the last thing he wanted to hear right now. I lost a 2tb drive a few
weeks ago that I didn't have completely backed up. I've had ITunes
mess up my library in the past. For this reason, I only give it access
to what I want on my phone. And yes I have more than one copy.

On 7/2/15, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

While this is definitely not a good thing, did you not have a backup?
After
all, what happens if your external drive had failed?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of BrianMiller
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music review



I had this very thing happen to me… Somehow iCloud music library got
engaged
and my entire library of ripped music got hijacked and disassembled and
disaggregated and otherwise entirely messed up… I have tens of thousands
of
songs I ripped from CDs and stored on my external harddrive, and all my
folders were messed up, songs missing, artwork, missing, things renamed,
things deleted, replaced, and all manner of havoc.  I spent years 
building

and organizing my library only to have it totally screwed up.  I can’t
even
begin to think of what I’ve lost.







From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gmail
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 7:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music review



One thing I have heard that is quite dismaying is that when you turn on
iCloud Music Library, your library can get messed up. People have said
that
albums were split into two separate albums, that artwork was messed up,
and
other not nice things. Someone even said that iTunes had deleted their
songs, and replace them with ones that had DRM. On hearing all these not
great comments about iCloud Music Library, I plan to avoid it for a 
while

until Apple gets their crap together. They seem to have problems with
cloud
stuff. I heard that iCloud Drive had issues as well. I don't know what
they
are/were, but when I heard that, especially from

RE: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

2015-07-07 Thread Eden Kizer
How do you store it in Icloud instead of your device? I don't want it 
downloaded. I just want to be able to stream it from a cloud library. How can I 
tell it I want to be able to play srections I have liked by an arsist instead 
of the whole artist catalog or just one particular song. How do I have 
playlists or artists accessible easily but not just hanging out taking up space 
on my phone.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
christopher hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 12:10 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

Let's clear this first and foremost. You do not buy the music in Apple Music; 
you rent it, like you would rent a movie from Netflix. When you download from 
Apple Music, it is like downloading anything else to your device; space will be 
taken up on your device. You can, however, store as much music as you want in 
your iCloud Music library. This does not count towards your free 5 GB plan for 
iCloud storage.


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 On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:07, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 hi,
 
 so, any music we buy or download from apple music isn't stored on the divice 
 but, in iCloud music? does this take up your 5 gb of free storage in the 
 iCloud space?  Wondering if I need to buy more storage or if there's a way to 
 get it directly on my phone.   I bought a 125 gb phone for this specificly.
 
 Billy Maynard
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 The iCloud Music Library is where all your purchased and matched content now 
 belongs. It is also the home of anything you added from Apple Music.
 
 
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 On 6 Jul 2015, at 20:56, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 What is the iCloud music library being referenced in these posts? Thanks.
 Cher
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro
 Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 7:35 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
 
   I would have thought that the external drive was the back up.  I would 
 have saving songs on that that were also contained on an internal drive.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 10:58 PM
 Subject: Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 Sieghard as much as I agree with you about the backup, it's probably 
 the last thing he wanted to hear right now. I lost a 2tb drive a few 
 weeks ago that I didn't have completely backed up. I've had ITunes 
 mess up my library in the past. For this reason, I only give it 
 access to what I want on my phone. And yes I have more than one copy.
 
 On 7/2/15, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 While this is definitely not a good thing, did you not have a backup?
 After
 all, what happens if your external drive had failed?
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of BrianMiller
 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:33 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Apple Music review
 
 
 
 I had this very thing happen to me… Somehow iCloud music library got 
 engaged and my entire library of ripped music got hijacked and 
 disassembled and disaggregated and otherwise entirely messed up… I 
 have tens of thousands of songs I ripped from CDs and stored on my 
 external harddrive, and all my folders were messed up, songs 
 missing, artwork, missing, things renamed, things deleted, replaced, 
 and all manner of havoc.  I spent years building and organizing my 
 library only to have it totally screwed up.  I can’t even begin to 
 think of what I’ve lost.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gmail
 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 7:25 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 
 One thing I have heard that is quite dismaying is that when you turn 
 on iCloud Music Library, your library can get messed up. People have 
 said that albums were split into two separate albums, that artwork 
 was messed up, and other not nice things. Someone even said that 
 iTunes had deleted their songs, and replace them with ones that had 
 DRM. On hearing all these not great comments about iCloud Music 
 Library, I plan to avoid it for a while until Apple gets their crap 
 together. They seem to have problems with cloud stuff

Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

2015-07-07 Thread Billy Maynard

hi,

so, any music we buy or download from apple music isn't stored on the divice 
but, in iCloud music? does this take up your 5 gb of free storage in the 
iCloud space?  Wondering if I need to buy more storage or if there's a way 
to get it directly on my phone.   I bought a 125 gb phone for this 
specificly.


Billy Maynard
- Original Message - 
From: christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com

To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


The iCloud Music Library is where all your purchased and matched content now 
belongs. It is also the home of anything you added from Apple Music.



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On 6 Jul 2015, at 20:56, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:

What is the iCloud music library being referenced in these posts? Thanks.
Cher


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Gary Petraccaro

Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 7:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

   I would have thought that the external drive was the back up.  I would 
have saving songs on that that were also contained on an internal drive.


- Original Message -
From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Music review


Sieghard as much as I agree with you about the backup, it's probably
the last thing he wanted to hear right now. I lost a 2tb drive a few
weeks ago that I didn't have completely backed up. I've had ITunes
mess up my library in the past. For this reason, I only give it access
to what I want on my phone. And yes I have more than one copy.

On 7/2/15, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

While this is definitely not a good thing, did you not have a backup?
After
all, what happens if your external drive had failed?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of BrianMiller
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music review



I had this very thing happen to me… Somehow iCloud music library got
engaged
and my entire library of ripped music got hijacked and disassembled and
disaggregated and otherwise entirely messed up… I have tens of thousands
of
songs I ripped from CDs and stored on my external harddrive, and all my
folders were messed up, songs missing, artwork, missing, things renamed,
things deleted, replaced, and all manner of havoc.  I spent years 
building

and organizing my library only to have it totally screwed up.  I can’t
even
begin to think of what I’ve lost.







From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gmail
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 7:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Music review



One thing I have heard that is quite dismaying is that when you turn on
iCloud Music Library, your library can get messed up. People have said
that
albums were split into two separate albums, that artwork was messed up,
and
other not nice things. Someone even said that iTunes had deleted their
songs, and replace them with ones that had DRM. On hearing all these not
great comments about iCloud Music Library, I plan to avoid it for a while
until Apple gets their crap together. They seem to have problems with
cloud
stuff. I heard that iCloud Drive had issues as well. I don't know what
they
are/were, but when I heard that, especially from the developer of Voice
Dream Reader, I planned to avoid that, as well.





Thanks,

Ari


On Jul 2, 2015, at 3:11 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com
mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com  wrote:

Hi. I didn't read the whole article, but I don't need to read it to know
that the guy was basically bashing Apple Music. What people like him need
to
remember is that Apple is trying to keep up with the times. If they stuck
with Steve Jobs' philosophy entirely, they wouldn't be where they're at
today. Also, that guy is wrong about people who don't want to pay for the
subscription to Apple Music because didn't Apple say that you can use 
some

of the services if you opt out of the subscription?



Shawn

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On Jul 2, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca
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https://www.yahoo.com/tech/apple-music-is-hot-and-messy-122870003119.html

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Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

2015-07-07 Thread christopher hallsworth
It is recommended you use wifi unless you have a high or unlimited data plan to 
listen to music stored in your iCloud Music Library. When you download, it can 
be listened either online or offline, ideal for those on a limited data plan or 
whose local network is out of range.


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 On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:34, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 hi Chris,
 
 Thank you for all your responces.  I have one more question.  If it's in the 
 cloud library though  I'd eather use a local network or use up my data plan 
 while listening right?  Downloadin was to save for offline listening 
 Insidently isthre e   a way to hook up your car speakers  bluetooth without 
 it being so first?  wantedto listen to stuff onthe phone in the car.
 
 thanks again,
 Billy Maynard
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 2:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 Let's clear this first and foremost. You do not buy the music in Apple 
 Music; you rent it, like you would rent a movie from Netflix. When you 
 download from Apple Music, it is like downloading anything else to your 
 device; space will be taken up on your device. You can, however, store as 
 much music as you want in your iCloud Music library. This does not count 
 towards your free 5 GB plan for iCloud storage.
 
 
 Visit my groups:
 
 The Chat Zone
 the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 The Tech Zone
 the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
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 On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:07, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 hi,
 
 so, any music we buy or download from apple music isn't stored on the divice 
 but, in iCloud music? does this take up your 5 gb of free storage in the 
 iCloud space?  Wondering if I need to buy more storage or if there's a way 
 to get it directly on my phone.   I bought a 125 gb phone for this 
 specificly.
 
 Billy Maynard
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 The iCloud Music Library is where all your purchased and matched content now 
 belongs. It is also the home of anything you added from Apple Music.
 
 
 Visit my groups:
 
 The Chat Zone
 the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 The Tech Zone
 the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 Apple Music
 apple-music+subscr...@groups.io
 
 
 
 
 
 On 6 Jul 2015, at 20:56, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 What is the iCloud music library being referenced in these posts? Thanks.
 Cher
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Gary Petraccaro
 Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 7:35 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
 
  I would have thought that the external drive was the back up.  I would 
 have saving songs on that that were also contained on an internal drive.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 10:58 PM
 Subject: Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 Sieghard as much as I agree with you about the backup, it's probably
 the last thing he wanted to hear right now. I lost a 2tb drive a few
 weeks ago that I didn't have completely backed up. I've had ITunes
 mess up my library in the past. For this reason, I only give it access
 to what I want on my phone. And yes I have more than one copy.
 
 On 7/2/15, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 While this is definitely not a good thing, did you not have a backup?
 After
 all, what happens if your external drive had failed?
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of BrianMiller
 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:33 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Apple Music review
 
 
 
 I had this very thing happen to me… Somehow iCloud music library got
 engaged
 and my entire library of ripped music got hijacked and disassembled and
 disaggregated and otherwise entirely messed up… I have tens of thousands
 of
 songs I ripped from CDs and stored on my external harddrive, and all my
 folders were messed up, songs missing, artwork, missing, things renamed,
 things deleted, replaced, and all manner of havoc.  I spent years building
 and organizing my library only to have it totally screwed up.  I can’t
 even
 begin to think of what I’ve lost.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gmail
 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 7:25 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 
 One

Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

2015-07-07 Thread christopher hallsworth
Let's clear this first and foremost. You do not buy the music in Apple Music; 
you rent it, like you would rent a movie from Netflix. When you download from 
Apple Music, it is like downloading anything else to your device; space will be 
taken up on your device. You can, however, store as much music as you want in 
your iCloud Music library. This does not count towards your free 5 GB plan for 
iCloud storage.


Visit my groups:

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 On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:07, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 hi,
 
 so, any music we buy or download from apple music isn't stored on the divice 
 but, in iCloud music? does this take up your 5 gb of free storage in the 
 iCloud space?  Wondering if I need to buy more storage or if there's a way to 
 get it directly on my phone.   I bought a 125 gb phone for this specificly.
 
 Billy Maynard
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 The iCloud Music Library is where all your purchased and matched content now 
 belongs. It is also the home of anything you added from Apple Music.
 
 
 Visit my groups:
 
 The Chat Zone
 the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 The Tech Zone
 the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 Apple Music
 apple-music+subscr...@groups.io
 
 
 
 
 
 On 6 Jul 2015, at 20:56, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 What is the iCloud music library being referenced in these posts? Thanks.
 Cher
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Gary Petraccaro
 Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 7:35 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
 
   I would have thought that the external drive was the back up.  I would 
 have saving songs on that that were also contained on an internal drive.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 10:58 PM
 Subject: Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 Sieghard as much as I agree with you about the backup, it's probably
 the last thing he wanted to hear right now. I lost a 2tb drive a few
 weeks ago that I didn't have completely backed up. I've had ITunes
 mess up my library in the past. For this reason, I only give it access
 to what I want on my phone. And yes I have more than one copy.
 
 On 7/2/15, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 While this is definitely not a good thing, did you not have a backup?
 After
 all, what happens if your external drive had failed?
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of BrianMiller
 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:33 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Apple Music review
 
 
 
 I had this very thing happen to me… Somehow iCloud music library got
 engaged
 and my entire library of ripped music got hijacked and disassembled and
 disaggregated and otherwise entirely messed up… I have tens of thousands
 of
 songs I ripped from CDs and stored on my external harddrive, and all my
 folders were messed up, songs missing, artwork, missing, things renamed,
 things deleted, replaced, and all manner of havoc.  I spent years building
 and organizing my library only to have it totally screwed up.  I can’t
 even
 begin to think of what I’ve lost.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gmail
 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 7:25 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 
 One thing I have heard that is quite dismaying is that when you turn on
 iCloud Music Library, your library can get messed up. People have said
 that
 albums were split into two separate albums, that artwork was messed up,
 and
 other not nice things. Someone even said that iTunes had deleted their
 songs, and replace them with ones that had DRM. On hearing all these not
 great comments about iCloud Music Library, I plan to avoid it for a while
 until Apple gets their crap together. They seem to have problems with
 cloud
 stuff. I heard that iCloud Drive had issues as well. I don't know what
 they
 are/were, but when I heard that, especially from the developer of Voice
 Dream Reader, I planned to avoid that, as well.
 
 
 
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ari
 
 
 On Jul 2, 2015, at 3:11 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com
 mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com  wrote:
 
 Hi. I didn't read the whole article, but I don't need to read it to know
 that the guy was basically bashing Apple Music. What people like him need
 to
 remember is that Apple is trying to keep up with the times. If they stuck
 with Steve Jobs' philosophy entirely, they wouldn't be where they're at
 today

Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

2015-07-07 Thread Shaf

Try Google.

On 7/7/2015 9:22 PM, Eden Kizer wrote:

I can use the cloud I rarely use data to listen to music. I may be eventually 
where I will want it on my device as I will hopeofly be going out about more 
soon, but now I just want it on the cloud and do not understand this. Perhaps I 
need an intro podcast to the cloud so I should look for that as well maybe help 
me.
Eden

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
christopher hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 12:58 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

It is recommended you use wifi unless you have a high or unlimited data plan to 
listen to music stored in your iCloud Music Library. When you download, it can 
be listened either online or offline, ideal for those on a limited data plan or 
whose local network is out of range.


Visit my groups:

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On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:34, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:

hi Chris,

Thank you for all your responces.  I have one more question.  If it's in the 
cloud library though  I'd eather use a local network or use up my data plan 
while listening right?  Downloadin was to save for offline listening Insidently 
isthre e   a way to hook up your car speakers  bluetooth without it being so 
first?  wantedto listen to stuff onthe phone in the car.

thanks again,
Billy Maynard
- Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth
challswor...@icloud.com
To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


Let's clear this first and foremost. You do not buy the music in Apple Music; you 
rent it, like you would rent a movie from Netflix. When you download from Apple Music, 
it is like downloading anything else to your device; space will be taken up on your device. You 
can, however, store as much music as you want in your iCloud Music library. This does not count 
towards your free 5 GB plan for iCloud storage.


Visit my groups:

The Chat Zone
the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
The Tech Zone
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On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:07, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:

hi,

so, any music we buy or download from apple music isn't stored on the divice 
but, in iCloud music? does this take up your 5 gb of free storage in the iCloud 
space?  Wondering if I need to buy more storage or if there's a way to get it 
directly on my phone.   I bought a 125 gb phone for this specificly.

Billy Maynard
- Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth
challswor...@icloud.com
To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review


The iCloud Music Library is where all your purchased and matched content now 
belongs. It is also the home of anything you added from Apple Music.


Visit my groups:

The Chat Zone
the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
The Tech Zone
the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
Apple Music
apple-music+subscr...@groups.io






On 6 Jul 2015, at 20:56, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:

What is the iCloud music library being referenced in these posts? Thanks.
Cher


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 7:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

  I would have thought that the external drive was the back up.  I would have 
saving songs on that that were also contained on an internal drive.

- Original Message -
From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Music review


Sieghard as much as I agree with you about the backup, it's probably
the last thing he wanted to hear right now. I lost a 2tb drive a few
weeks ago that I didn't have completely backed up. I've had ITunes
mess up my library in the past. For this reason, I only give it
access to what I want on my phone. And yes I have more than one copy.

On 7/2/15, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

While this is definitely not a good thing, did you not have a backup?
After
all, what happens if your external drive had failed?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of BrianMiller
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Music review



I had this very thing happen to me… Somehow iCloud music library
got engaged and my entire library of ripped music got hijacked and
disassembled and disaggregated and otherwise entirely messed up… I
have tens of thousands of songs I ripped from CDs and stored on my
external harddrive, and all my folders were messed up, songs
missing, artwork, missing

RE: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

2015-07-07 Thread Eden Kizer
I can use the cloud I rarely use data to listen to music. I may be eventually 
where I will want it on my device as I will hopeofly be going out about more 
soon, but now I just want it on the cloud and do not understand this. Perhaps I 
need an intro podcast to the cloud so I should look for that as well maybe help 
me.
Eden

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
christopher hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 12:58 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

It is recommended you use wifi unless you have a high or unlimited data plan to 
listen to music stored in your iCloud Music Library. When you download, it can 
be listened either online or offline, ideal for those on a limited data plan or 
whose local network is out of range.


Visit my groups:

The Chat Zone
the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
The Tech Zone
the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
Apple Music
apple-music+subscr...@groups.io





 On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:34, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 hi Chris,
 
 Thank you for all your responces.  I have one more question.  If it's in the 
 cloud library though  I'd eather use a local network or use up my data plan 
 while listening right?  Downloadin was to save for offline listening 
 Insidently isthre e   a way to hook up your car speakers  bluetooth without 
 it being so first?  wantedto listen to stuff onthe phone in the car.
 
 thanks again,
 Billy Maynard
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 2:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 Let's clear this first and foremost. You do not buy the music in Apple 
 Music; you rent it, like you would rent a movie from Netflix. When you 
 download from Apple Music, it is like downloading anything else to your 
 device; space will be taken up on your device. You can, however, store as 
 much music as you want in your iCloud Music library. This does not count 
 towards your free 5 GB plan for iCloud storage.
 
 
 Visit my groups:
 
 The Chat Zone
 the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 The Tech Zone
 the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 Apple Music
 apple-music+subscr...@groups.io
 
 
 
 
 
 On 7 Jul 2015, at 20:07, Billy Maynard biljm...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 hi,
 
 so, any music we buy or download from apple music isn't stored on the divice 
 but, in iCloud music? does this take up your 5 gb of free storage in the 
 iCloud space?  Wondering if I need to buy more storage or if there's a way 
 to get it directly on my phone.   I bought a 125 gb phone for this 
 specificly.
 
 Billy Maynard
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 The iCloud Music Library is where all your purchased and matched content now 
 belongs. It is also the home of anything you added from Apple Music.
 
 
 Visit my groups:
 
 The Chat Zone
 the-chat-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 The Tech Zone
 the-tech-zone+subscr...@groups.io
 Apple Music
 apple-music+subscr...@groups.io
 
 
 
 
 
 On 6 Jul 2015, at 20:56, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 What is the iCloud music library being referenced in these posts? Thanks.
 Cher
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro
 Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 7:35 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
 
  I would have thought that the external drive was the back up.  I would 
 have saving songs on that that were also contained on an internal drive.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 10:58 PM
 Subject: Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 Sieghard as much as I agree with you about the backup, it's probably 
 the last thing he wanted to hear right now. I lost a 2tb drive a few 
 weeks ago that I didn't have completely backed up. I've had ITunes 
 mess up my library in the past. For this reason, I only give it 
 access to what I want on my phone. And yes I have more than one copy.
 
 On 7/2/15, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 While this is definitely not a good thing, did you not have a backup?
 After
 all, what happens if your external drive had failed?
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of BrianMiller
 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:33 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Apple Music review
 
 
 
 I had this very thing happen to me… Somehow iCloud music library 
 got engaged and my entire library of ripped music got hijacked and 
 disassembled and disaggregated and otherwise entirely messed up… I 
 have tens of thousands of songs I ripped from CDs and stored on my 
 external

RE: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

2015-07-06 Thread Don Cher
What is the iCloud music library being referenced in these posts? Thanks.
Cher


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 7:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

I would have thought that the external drive was the back up.  I would have 
saving songs on that that were also contained on an internal drive.

- Original Message -
From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Music review


Sieghard as much as I agree with you about the backup, it's probably
the last thing he wanted to hear right now. I lost a 2tb drive a few
weeks ago that I didn't have completely backed up. I've had ITunes
mess up my library in the past. For this reason, I only give it access
to what I want on my phone. And yes I have more than one copy.

On 7/2/15, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 While this is definitely not a good thing, did you not have a backup? 
 After
 all, what happens if your external drive had failed?



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of BrianMiller
 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:33 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Apple Music review



 I had this very thing happen to me… Somehow iCloud music library got 
 engaged
 and my entire library of ripped music got hijacked and disassembled and
 disaggregated and otherwise entirely messed up… I have tens of thousands 
 of
 songs I ripped from CDs and stored on my external harddrive, and all my
 folders were messed up, songs missing, artwork, missing, things renamed,
 things deleted, replaced, and all manner of havoc.  I spent years building
 and organizing my library only to have it totally screwed up.  I can’t 
 even
 begin to think of what I’ve lost.







 From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gmail
 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 7:25 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple Music review



 One thing I have heard that is quite dismaying is that when you turn on
 iCloud Music Library, your library can get messed up. People have said 
 that
 albums were split into two separate albums, that artwork was messed up, 
 and
 other not nice things. Someone even said that iTunes had deleted their
 songs, and replace them with ones that had DRM. On hearing all these not
 great comments about iCloud Music Library, I plan to avoid it for a while
 until Apple gets their crap together. They seem to have problems with 
 cloud
 stuff. I heard that iCloud Drive had issues as well. I don't know what 
 they
 are/were, but when I heard that, especially from the developer of Voice
 Dream Reader, I planned to avoid that, as well.





 Thanks,

 Ari


 On Jul 2, 2015, at 3:11 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com
 mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com  wrote:

 Hi. I didn't read the whole article, but I don't need to read it to know
 that the guy was basically bashing Apple Music. What people like him need 
 to
 remember is that Apple is trying to keep up with the times. If they stuck
 with Steve Jobs' philosophy entirely, they wouldn't be where they're at
 today. Also, that guy is wrong about people who don't want to pay for the
 subscription to Apple Music because didn't Apple say that you can use some
 of the services if you opt out of the subscription?



 Shawn

 Sent from my White MacBook







 On Jul 2, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca
 mailto:csma...@cogeco.ca  wrote:



 Apple Music Is Hot — and Messy

 https://www.yahoo.com/tech/apple-music-is-hot-and-messy-122870003119.html

 Chris




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Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

2015-07-06 Thread christopher hallsworth
The iCloud Music Library is where all your purchased and matched content now 
belongs. It is also the home of anything you added from Apple Music.


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 On 6 Jul 2015, at 20:56, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 What is the iCloud music library being referenced in these posts? Thanks.
 Cher
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Gary Petraccaro
 Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 7:35 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
 
I would have thought that the external drive was the back up.  I would 
 have saving songs on that that were also contained on an internal drive.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 10:58 PM
 Subject: Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 Sieghard as much as I agree with you about the backup, it's probably
 the last thing he wanted to hear right now. I lost a 2tb drive a few
 weeks ago that I didn't have completely backed up. I've had ITunes
 mess up my library in the past. For this reason, I only give it access
 to what I want on my phone. And yes I have more than one copy.
 
 On 7/2/15, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 While this is definitely not a good thing, did you not have a backup? 
 After
 all, what happens if your external drive had failed?
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of BrianMiller
 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:33 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Apple Music review
 
 
 
 I had this very thing happen to me… Somehow iCloud music library got 
 engaged
 and my entire library of ripped music got hijacked and disassembled and
 disaggregated and otherwise entirely messed up… I have tens of thousands 
 of
 songs I ripped from CDs and stored on my external harddrive, and all my
 folders were messed up, songs missing, artwork, missing, things renamed,
 things deleted, replaced, and all manner of havoc.  I spent years building
 and organizing my library only to have it totally screwed up.  I can’t 
 even
 begin to think of what I’ve lost.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gmail
 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 7:25 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 
 One thing I have heard that is quite dismaying is that when you turn on
 iCloud Music Library, your library can get messed up. People have said 
 that
 albums were split into two separate albums, that artwork was messed up, 
 and
 other not nice things. Someone even said that iTunes had deleted their
 songs, and replace them with ones that had DRM. On hearing all these not
 great comments about iCloud Music Library, I plan to avoid it for a while
 until Apple gets their crap together. They seem to have problems with 
 cloud
 stuff. I heard that iCloud Drive had issues as well. I don't know what 
 they
 are/were, but when I heard that, especially from the developer of Voice
 Dream Reader, I planned to avoid that, as well.
 
 
 
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ari
 
 
 On Jul 2, 2015, at 3:11 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com
 mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com  wrote:
 
 Hi. I didn't read the whole article, but I don't need to read it to know
 that the guy was basically bashing Apple Music. What people like him need 
 to
 remember is that Apple is trying to keep up with the times. If they stuck
 with Steve Jobs' philosophy entirely, they wouldn't be where they're at
 today. Also, that guy is wrong about people who don't want to pay for the
 subscription to Apple Music because didn't Apple say that you can use some
 of the services if you opt out of the subscription?
 
 
 
 Shawn
 
 Sent from my White MacBook
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Jul 2, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca
 mailto:csma...@cogeco.ca  wrote:
 
 
 
 Apple Music Is Hot — and Messy
 
 https://www.yahoo.com/tech/apple-music-is-hot-and-messy-122870003119.html
 
 Chris
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

2015-07-06 Thread Don Cher
So it's a pretty big deal if something goes wrong during the transition... 
Wonder if this is a good reason to delay 8.04 till the next update...
Cher


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
christopher hallsworth
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 4:24 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

The iCloud Music Library is where all your purchased and matched content now 
belongs. It is also the home of anything you added from Apple Music.


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 On 6 Jul 2015, at 20:56, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 What is the iCloud music library being referenced in these posts? Thanks.
 Cher
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro
 Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 7:35 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
 
I would have thought that the external drive was the back up.  I would 
 have saving songs on that that were also contained on an internal drive.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 10:58 PM
 Subject: Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 Sieghard as much as I agree with you about the backup, it's probably 
 the last thing he wanted to hear right now. I lost a 2tb drive a few 
 weeks ago that I didn't have completely backed up. I've had ITunes 
 mess up my library in the past. For this reason, I only give it access 
 to what I want on my phone. And yes I have more than one copy.
 
 On 7/2/15, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 While this is definitely not a good thing, did you not have a backup? 
 After
 all, what happens if your external drive had failed?
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of BrianMiller
 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:33 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Apple Music review
 
 
 
 I had this very thing happen to me… Somehow iCloud music library got 
 engaged and my entire library of ripped music got hijacked and 
 disassembled and disaggregated and otherwise entirely messed up… I 
 have tens of thousands of songs I ripped from CDs and stored on my 
 external harddrive, and all my folders were messed up, songs missing, 
 artwork, missing, things renamed, things deleted, replaced, and all 
 manner of havoc.  I spent years building and organizing my library 
 only to have it totally screwed up.  I can’t even begin to think of 
 what I’ve lost.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gmail
 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 7:25 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 
 One thing I have heard that is quite dismaying is that when you turn 
 on iCloud Music Library, your library can get messed up. People have 
 said that albums were split into two separate albums, that artwork 
 was messed up, and other not nice things. Someone even said that 
 iTunes had deleted their songs, and replace them with ones that had 
 DRM. On hearing all these not great comments about iCloud Music 
 Library, I plan to avoid it for a while until Apple gets their crap 
 together. They seem to have problems with cloud stuff. I heard that 
 iCloud Drive had issues as well. I don't know what they are/were, but 
 when I heard that, especially from the developer of Voice Dream 
 Reader, I planned to avoid that, as well.
 
 
 
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ari
 
 
 On Jul 2, 2015, at 3:11 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com 
 mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com  wrote:
 
 Hi. I didn't read the whole article, but I don't need to read it to 
 know that the guy was basically bashing Apple Music. What people like 
 him need to remember is that Apple is trying to keep up with the 
 times. If they stuck with Steve Jobs' philosophy entirely, they 
 wouldn't be where they're at today. Also, that guy is wrong about 
 people who don't want to pay for the subscription to Apple Music 
 because didn't Apple say that you can use some of the services if you 
 opt out of the subscription?
 
 
 
 Shawn
 
 Sent from my White MacBook
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Jul 2, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca 
 mailto:csma...@cogeco.ca  wrote:
 
 
 
 Apple Music Is Hot — and Messy
 
 https://www.yahoo.com/tech/apple-music-is-hot-and-messy-122870003119.
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 Chris
 
 
 
 
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