Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App

[Wil James]

I don't know, but 9.1 Public Beta 1 can be had now. ' 

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 20, 2015, at 11:10 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> When will the beta come out? Also... I hope the call bug and the bug where vo 
> crashes after sending email is fixed!!! Sorry beta police!!! Call it 
> updater's remorse!!! lol 
> 
> Jenifer Barr
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:53 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I can't say because the beta police may come after me.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Donna  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What did you do to fix the bug I have restored all settings several 
>>> times & did a hard reboot also. Still have the problem! Not that it's a 
>>> deal breaker for me. 
>>> 
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Sep 20, 2015, at 7:45 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
 
 Yes me too!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of John Diakogeorgiou
 Sent: 20 September 2015 19:02
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of 
 Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App
 
 It's fixed for me..
 
 John Diakogeorgiou
 
> On Sep 20, 2015, at 12:32 PM, Donna  wrote:
> 
> No it hasn't been fixed in 9.1! Unless one keeps resetting network 
> settings or resetting all settings. 
> 
> Donna
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:11 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Here go the apple police again!!! If some one tells you that Apple has 
>> fixed a bug then by not bugging themb we are letting them better utilize 
>> their time. They don't have to waste time looking at problems which they 
>> have already resolved. I'll be muting this now.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 1:01 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I hope you realize that you just violated NDA by saying that.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:36 AM, Wil James  wrote:
 
 There is good news on the horizon. That issue is fixed and I OS 9.1.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I think it's great if people write in about this. FYI, I reported it 
> during the beta cycle and was told it was a duplicate bug report, so 
> they do know about it, but having more people say it's important to 
> get it fixed should help.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. I'll definitely do that, as that's an issue that's really 
>> annoying me at the moment. We should write to 
>> 
>> accessibil...@apple.com
>> 
>> Right?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 3:48 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> You may have noticed that in the currently released version of the 
>>> native
>>> iOS 9 Mail app, VoiceOver no longer announces the actual number of 
>>> messages
>>> in a collapsed message thread but, instead, merely says, "Multiple 
>>> messages
>>> in thread."  
>>> 
>>> If, like me, you would like to once again hear the specific number 
>>> of
>>> messages in a collapsed message thread, please join me in 
>>> submitting a
>>> feedback request to Apple.
>>> 
>>> The following is a feedback request I just submitted to Apple.  
>>> Feel free to
>>> use any or all of it in your submissions.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> [Begin Feedback]
>>> 
>>> TITLE:
>>> Request to Have VoiceOver Once Again Announce the Number of 
>>> Messages in a
>>> collapsed Email Message Thread
>>> 
>>> DESCRIPTION:
>>> In iOS 8.x and earlier, VoiceOver would announce the actual number 
>>> of
>>> messages in a collapsed email message thread.  In the currently 
>>> released
>>> version of iOS 9.0, VoiceOver, instead of announcing the number of 
>>> messages
>>> in the thread, merely says, "Multiple messages in 

Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App

[christopher hallsworth]

You can get the beta here
http://beta.apple.com
you must sign in and enrol your device(s) before you can install the beta. Note 
this is a public, not a developer, beta which the latter requires a paid 
developer account. The public beta program however is free to anyone with an 
Apple ID.
> On 21 Sep 2015, at 04:10, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> When will the beta come out? Also... I hope the call bug and the bug where vo 
> crashes after sending email is fixed!!! Sorry beta police!!! Call it 
> updater's remorse!!! lol 
> 
> Jenifer Barr
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:53 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I can't say because the beta police may come after me.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Donna  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What did you do to fix the bug I have restored all settings several 
>>> times & did a hard reboot also. Still have the problem! Not that it's a 
>>> deal breaker for me. 
>>> 
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Sep 20, 2015, at 7:45 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
 
 Yes me too!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of John Diakogeorgiou
 Sent: 20 September 2015 19:02
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of 
 Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App
 
 It's fixed for me..
 
 John Diakogeorgiou
 
> On Sep 20, 2015, at 12:32 PM, Donna  wrote:
> 
> No it hasn't been fixed in 9.1! Unless one keeps resetting network 
> settings or resetting all settings. 
> 
> Donna
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:11 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Here go the apple police again!!! If some one tells you that Apple has 
>> fixed a bug then by not bugging themb we are letting them better utilize 
>> their time. They don't have to waste time looking at problems which they 
>> have already resolved. I'll be muting this now.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 1:01 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I hope you realize that you just violated NDA by saying that.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:36 AM, Wil James  wrote:
 
 There is good news on the horizon. That issue is fixed and I OS 9.1.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I think it's great if people write in about this. FYI, I reported it 
> during the beta cycle and was told it was a duplicate bug report, so 
> they do know about it, but having more people say it's important to 
> get it fixed should help.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. I'll definitely do that, as that's an issue that's really 
>> annoying me at the moment. We should write to 
>> 
>> accessibil...@apple.com
>> 
>> Right?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 3:48 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> You may have noticed that in the currently released version of the 
>>> native
>>> iOS 9 Mail app, VoiceOver no longer announces the actual number of 
>>> messages
>>> in a collapsed message thread but, instead, merely says, "Multiple 
>>> messages
>>> in thread."  
>>> 
>>> If, like me, you would like to once again hear the specific number 
>>> of
>>> messages in a collapsed message thread, please join me in 
>>> submitting a
>>> feedback request to Apple.
>>> 
>>> The following is a feedback request I just submitted to Apple.  
>>> Feel free to
>>> use any or all of it in your submissions.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> [Begin Feedback]
>>> 
>>> TITLE:
>>> Request to Have VoiceOver Once Again Announce the Number of 
>>> Messages in a
>>> collapsed Email Message Thread
>>> 
>>> DESCRIPTION:
>>> In iOS 8.x and earlier, VoiceOver would announce the actual number 
>>> of
>>> messages in a collapsed email message 

Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App

[Jenifer Barr]

Thanks, I may just do that.  (smile)

On 9/21/15, christopher hallsworth  wrote:
> You can get the beta here
> http://beta.apple.com
> you must sign in and enrol your device(s) before you can install the beta.
> Note this is a public, not a developer, beta which the latter requires a
> paid developer account. The public beta program however is free to anyone
> with an Apple ID.
>> On 21 Sep 2015, at 04:10, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>
>> When will the beta come out? Also... I hope the call bug and the bug where
>> vo crashes after sending email is fixed!!! Sorry beta police!!! Call it
>> updater's remorse!!! lol
>>
>> Jenifer Barr
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:53 PM, John Diakogeorgiou 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I can't say because the beta police may come after me.
>>>
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>>
 On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Donna  wrote:

 What did you do to fix the bug I have restored all settings several
 times & did a hard reboot also. Still have the problem! Not that it's a
 deal breaker for me.

 Donna

> On Sep 20, 2015, at 7:45 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
>
> Yes me too!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: 20 September 2015 19:02
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of
> Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App
>
> It's fixed for me..
>
> John Diakogeorgiou
>
>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 12:32 PM, Donna  wrote:
>>
>> No it hasn't been fixed in 9.1! Unless one keeps resetting network
>> settings or resetting all settings.
>>
>> Donna
>>
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:11 AM, John Diakogeorgiou
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Here go the apple police again!!! If some one tells you that Apple
>>> has fixed a bug then by not bugging themb we are letting them better
>>> utilize their time. They don't have to waste time looking at problems
>>> which they have already resolved. I'll be muting this now.
>>>
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>>
 On Sep 20, 2015, at 1:01 AM, Shawn Krasniuk 
 wrote:

 I hope you realize that you just violated NDA by saying that.

 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
 Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
 Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
 Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

> On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:36 AM, Wil James 
> wrote:
>
> There is good news on the horizon. That issue is fixed and I OS
> 9.1.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Woody Anna Dresner
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I think it's great if people write in about this. FYI, I reported
>> it during the beta cycle and was told it was a duplicate bug
>> report, so they do know about it, but having more people say it's
>> important to get it fixed should help.
>>
>> Best,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Tom Lange 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi. I'll definitely do that, as that's an issue that's really
>>> annoying me at the moment. We should write to
>>>
>>> accessibil...@apple.com
>>>
>>> Right?
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Sep 18, 2015, at 3:48 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 You may have noticed that in the currently released version of
 the native
 iOS 9 Mail app, VoiceOver no longer announces the actual number
 of messages
 in a collapsed message thread but, instead, merely says,
 "Multiple messages
 in thread."

 If, like me, you would like to once again hear the specific
 number of
 messages in a collapsed message thread, please join me in
 submitting a
 feedback request to Apple.

 The following is a feedback request I just submitted to Apple.
 Feel free to
 use any or all of it in your submissions.

 Thank you,

 Mark

 [Begin Feedback]

 TITLE:
 Request to Have VoiceOver Once Again Announce the Number of
 Messages in a
 

Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App

[John Diakogeorgiou]

It will probably be a couple of months. I won't comment on the other bug  

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Sep 20, 2015, at 11:10 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> When will the beta come out? Also... I hope the call bug and the bug where vo 
> crashes after sending email is fixed!!! Sorry beta police!!! Call it 
> updater's remorse!!! lol 
> 
> Jenifer Barr
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:53 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I can't say because the beta police may come after me.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Donna  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What did you do to fix the bug I have restored all settings several 
>>> times & did a hard reboot also. Still have the problem! Not that it's a 
>>> deal breaker for me. 
>>> 
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Sep 20, 2015, at 7:45 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
 
 Yes me too!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of John Diakogeorgiou
 Sent: 20 September 2015 19:02
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of 
 Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App
 
 It's fixed for me..
 
 John Diakogeorgiou
 
> On Sep 20, 2015, at 12:32 PM, Donna  wrote:
> 
> No it hasn't been fixed in 9.1! Unless one keeps resetting network 
> settings or resetting all settings. 
> 
> Donna
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:11 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Here go the apple police again!!! If some one tells you that Apple has 
>> fixed a bug then by not bugging themb we are letting them better utilize 
>> their time. They don't have to waste time looking at problems which they 
>> have already resolved. I'll be muting this now.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 1:01 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I hope you realize that you just violated NDA by saying that.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:36 AM, Wil James  wrote:
 
 There is good news on the horizon. That issue is fixed and I OS 9.1.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I think it's great if people write in about this. FYI, I reported it 
> during the beta cycle and was told it was a duplicate bug report, so 
> they do know about it, but having more people say it's important to 
> get it fixed should help.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. I'll definitely do that, as that's an issue that's really 
>> annoying me at the moment. We should write to 
>> 
>> accessibil...@apple.com
>> 
>> Right?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 3:48 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> You may have noticed that in the currently released version of the 
>>> native
>>> iOS 9 Mail app, VoiceOver no longer announces the actual number of 
>>> messages
>>> in a collapsed message thread but, instead, merely says, "Multiple 
>>> messages
>>> in thread."  
>>> 
>>> If, like me, you would like to once again hear the specific number 
>>> of
>>> messages in a collapsed message thread, please join me in 
>>> submitting a
>>> feedback request to Apple.
>>> 
>>> The following is a feedback request I just submitted to Apple.  
>>> Feel free to
>>> use any or all of it in your submissions.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> [Begin Feedback]
>>> 
>>> TITLE:
>>> Request to Have VoiceOver Once Again Announce the Number of 
>>> Messages in a
>>> collapsed Email Message Thread
>>> 
>>> DESCRIPTION:
>>> In iOS 8.x and earlier, VoiceOver would announce the actual number 
>>> of
>>> messages in a collapsed email message thread.  In the currently 
>>> released
>>> version of iOS 9.0, VoiceOver, instead of announcing the number of 
>>> messages
>>> in the thread, merely says, 

Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App

['Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone]

Hi. I have now reported this to Apple as well. The more people who report these 
bugs the better. After all, as they said in the last responnse I had from them, 
that's what they want us to do. 

Eleanor 

Sent from my iPad

> On 19 Sep 2015, at 15:14, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I think it's great if people write in about this. FYI, I reported it during 
> the beta cycle and was told it was a duplicate bug report, so they do know 
> about it, but having more people say it's important to get it fixed should 
> help.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. I'll definitely do that, as that's an issue that's really annoying me at 
>> the moment. We should write to 
>> 
>> accessibil...@apple.com
>> 
>> Right?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 3:48 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> You may have noticed that in the currently released version of the native
>>> iOS 9 Mail app, VoiceOver no longer announces the actual number of messages
>>> in a collapsed message thread but, instead, merely says, "Multiple messages
>>> in thread."  
>>> 
>>> If, like me, you would like to once again hear the specific number of
>>> messages in a collapsed message thread, please join me in submitting a
>>> feedback request to Apple.
>>> 
>>> The following is a feedback request I just submitted to Apple.  Feel free to
>>> use any or all of it in your submissions.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> [Begin Feedback]
>>> 
>>> TITLE:
>>> Request to Have VoiceOver Once Again Announce the Number of Messages in a
>>> collapsed Email Message Thread
>>> 
>>> DESCRIPTION:
>>> In iOS 8.x and earlier, VoiceOver would announce the actual number of
>>> messages in a collapsed email message thread.  In the currently released
>>> version of iOS 9.0, VoiceOver, instead of announcing the number of messages
>>> in the thread, merely says, "Multiple messages in thread."  The number of
>>> messages in a thread is important because said number may indicate how
>>> important or urgent the thread is to the user.
>>> 
>>> STEPS TO REPRODUCE:
>>> To reproduce this issue:
>>> 
>>> 1.
>>> From the LaunchPad, select Settings.
>>> 
>>> 2.
>>> Select Mail, Contacts, Calendars.
>>> 
>>> 3.
>>> Set Preview to None.
>>> 
>>> 4.
>>> Set "Organize by Thread" to, "ON".
>>> 
>>> 5.
>>> Launch the native iOS 9.0 Mail app.
>>> 
>>> 6.
>>> In the Messages Table, place VoiceOver focus on a message thread containing
>>> multiple messages.
>>> 
>>> EXPECTED RESULTS:
>>> I expect VoiceOver to announce the actual number of messages in the thread.
>>> 
>>> ACTUAL RESULTS:
>>> VoiceOver says, "Multiple messages in thread."
>>> 
>>> [End Feedback] 
>>> 
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App

[Donna]

What did you do to fix the bug I have restored all settings several times & 
did a hard reboot also. Still have the problem! Not that it's a deal breaker 
for me. 

Donna

> On Sep 20, 2015, at 7:45 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
> Yes me too!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: 20 September 2015 19:02
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of 
> Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App
> 
> It's fixed for me..
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 12:32 PM, Donna  wrote:
>> 
>> No it hasn't been fixed in 9.1! Unless one keeps resetting network settings 
>> or resetting all settings. 
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:11 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here go the apple police again!!! If some one tells you that Apple has 
>>> fixed a bug then by not bugging themb we are letting them better utilize 
>>> their time. They don't have to waste time looking at problems which they 
>>> have already resolved. I'll be muting this now.
>>> 
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>> 
 On Sep 20, 2015, at 1:01 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
 
 I hope you realize that you just violated NDA by saying that.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
 Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
 Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
 Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
 
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:36 AM, Wil James  wrote:
> 
> There is good news on the horizon. That issue is fixed and I OS 9.1.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I think it's great if people write in about this. FYI, I reported it 
>> during the beta cycle and was told it was a duplicate bug report, so 
>> they do know about it, but having more people say it's important to get 
>> it fixed should help.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi. I'll definitely do that, as that's an issue that's really annoying 
>>> me at the moment. We should write to 
>>> 
>>> accessibil...@apple.com
>>> 
>>> Right?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 18, 2015, at 3:48 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 You may have noticed that in the currently released version of the 
 native
 iOS 9 Mail app, VoiceOver no longer announces the actual number of 
 messages
 in a collapsed message thread but, instead, merely says, "Multiple 
 messages
 in thread."  
 
 If, like me, you would like to once again hear the specific number of
 messages in a collapsed message thread, please join me in submitting a
 feedback request to Apple.
 
 The following is a feedback request I just submitted to Apple.  Feel 
 free to
 use any or all of it in your submissions.
 
 Thank you,
 
 Mark
 
 [Begin Feedback]
 
 TITLE:
 Request to Have VoiceOver Once Again Announce the Number of Messages 
 in a
 collapsed Email Message Thread
 
 DESCRIPTION:
 In iOS 8.x and earlier, VoiceOver would announce the actual number of
 messages in a collapsed email message thread.  In the currently 
 released
 version of iOS 9.0, VoiceOver, instead of announcing the number of 
 messages
 in the thread, merely says, "Multiple messages in thread."  The number 
 of
 messages in a thread is important because said number may indicate how
 important or urgent the thread is to the user.
 
 STEPS TO REPRODUCE:
 To reproduce this issue:
 
 1.
 From the LaunchPad, select Settings.
 
 2.
 Select Mail, Contacts, Calendars.
 
 3.
 Set Preview to None.
 
 4.
 Set "Organize by Thread" to, "ON".
 
 5.
 Launch the native iOS 9.0 Mail app.
 
 6.
 In the Messages Table, place VoiceOver focus on a message thread 
 containing
 multiple messages.
 
 EXPECTED RESULTS:
 I expect VoiceOver to announce the actual number of messages in the 
 thread.
 
 ACTUAL RESULTS:
 VoiceOver says, "Multiple messages in thread."
 
 [End Feedback] 
 
 -- 
 The following information is important for all 

Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I can't say because the beta police may come after me.

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Donna  wrote:
> 
> What did you do to fix the bug I have restored all settings several times 
> & did a hard reboot also. Still have the problem! Not that it's a deal 
> breaker for me. 
> 
> Donna
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 7:45 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes me too!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>> Sent: 20 September 2015 19:02
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of 
>> Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App
>> 
>> It's fixed for me..
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 12:32 PM, Donna  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No it hasn't been fixed in 9.1! Unless one keeps resetting network settings 
>>> or resetting all settings. 
>>> 
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:11 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  
 wrote:
 
 Here go the apple police again!!! If some one tells you that Apple has 
 fixed a bug then by not bugging themb we are letting them better utilize 
 their time. They don't have to waste time looking at problems which they 
 have already resolved. I'll be muting this now.
 
 John Diakogeorgiou
 
> On Sep 20, 2015, at 1:01 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> I hope you realize that you just violated NDA by saying that.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:36 AM, Wil James  wrote:
>> 
>> There is good news on the horizon. That issue is fixed and I OS 9.1.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I think it's great if people write in about this. FYI, I reported it 
>>> during the beta cycle and was told it was a duplicate bug report, so 
>>> they do know about it, but having more people say it's important to get 
>>> it fixed should help.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
 
 Hi. I'll definitely do that, as that's an issue that's really annoying 
 me at the moment. We should write to 
 
 accessibil...@apple.com
 
 Right?
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 18, 2015, at 3:48 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> You may have noticed that in the currently released version of the 
> native
> iOS 9 Mail app, VoiceOver no longer announces the actual number of 
> messages
> in a collapsed message thread but, instead, merely says, "Multiple 
> messages
> in thread."  
> 
> If, like me, you would like to once again hear the specific number of
> messages in a collapsed message thread, please join me in submitting a
> feedback request to Apple.
> 
> The following is a feedback request I just submitted to Apple.  Feel 
> free to
> use any or all of it in your submissions.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mark
> 
> [Begin Feedback]
> 
> TITLE:
> Request to Have VoiceOver Once Again Announce the Number of Messages 
> in a
> collapsed Email Message Thread
> 
> DESCRIPTION:
> In iOS 8.x and earlier, VoiceOver would announce the actual number of
> messages in a collapsed email message thread.  In the currently 
> released
> version of iOS 9.0, VoiceOver, instead of announcing the number of 
> messages
> in the thread, merely says, "Multiple messages in thread."  The 
> number of
> messages in a thread is important because said number may indicate how
> important or urgent the thread is to the user.
> 
> STEPS TO REPRODUCE:
> To reproduce this issue:
> 
> 1.
> From the LaunchPad, select Settings.
> 
> 2.
> Select Mail, Contacts, Calendars.
> 
> 3.
> Set Preview to None.
> 
> 4.
> Set "Organize by Thread" to, "ON".
> 
> 5.
> Launch the native iOS 9.0 Mail app.
> 
> 6.
> In the Messages Table, place VoiceOver focus on a message thread 
> containing
> multiple messages.
> 
> EXPECTED 

Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App

[Wil James]

Before people get their panties in a bunch, let me tell you why I sent that 
message.
People would be wasting apples time reporting something that is fixed and 9.1. 
Nothing more, nothing less.
Now we can go back to our regularly scheduled nitpicking.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 20, 2015, at 2:01 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
> wrote:
> 
> It's fixed for me..
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 12:32 PM, Donna  wrote:
>> 
>> No it hasn't been fixed in 9.1! Unless one keeps resetting network settings 
>> or resetting all settings. 
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:11 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here go the apple police again!!! If some one tells you that Apple has 
>>> fixed a bug then by not bugging themb we are letting them better utilize 
>>> their time. They don't have to waste time looking at problems which they 
>>> have already resolved. I'll be muting this now.
>>> 
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>> 
 On Sep 20, 2015, at 1:01 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
 
 I hope you realize that you just violated NDA by saying that.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
 Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
 Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
 Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
 
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:36 AM, Wil James  wrote:
> 
> There is good news on the horizon. That issue is fixed and I OS 9.1.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I think it's great if people write in about this. FYI, I reported it 
>> during the beta cycle and was told it was a duplicate bug report, so 
>> they do know about it, but having more people say it's important to get 
>> it fixed should help.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi. I'll definitely do that, as that's an issue that's really annoying 
>>> me at the moment. We should write to 
>>> 
>>> accessibil...@apple.com
>>> 
>>> Right?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 18, 2015, at 3:48 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 You may have noticed that in the currently released version of the 
 native
 iOS 9 Mail app, VoiceOver no longer announces the actual number of 
 messages
 in a collapsed message thread but, instead, merely says, "Multiple 
 messages
 in thread."  
 
 If, like me, you would like to once again hear the specific number of
 messages in a collapsed message thread, please join me in submitting a
 feedback request to Apple.
 
 The following is a feedback request I just submitted to Apple.  Feel 
 free to
 use any or all of it in your submissions.
 
 Thank you,
 
 Mark
 
 [Begin Feedback]
 
 TITLE:
 Request to Have VoiceOver Once Again Announce the Number of Messages 
 in a
 collapsed Email Message Thread
 
 DESCRIPTION:
 In iOS 8.x and earlier, VoiceOver would announce the actual number of
 messages in a collapsed email message thread.  In the currently 
 released
 version of iOS 9.0, VoiceOver, instead of announcing the number of 
 messages
 in the thread, merely says, "Multiple messages in thread."  The number 
 of
 messages in a thread is important because said number may indicate how
 important or urgent the thread is to the user.
 
 STEPS TO REPRODUCE:
 To reproduce this issue:
 
 1.
 From the LaunchPad, select Settings.
 
 2.
 Select Mail, Contacts, Calendars.
 
 3.
 Set Preview to None.
 
 4.
 Set "Organize by Thread" to, "ON".
 
 5.
 Launch the native iOS 9.0 Mail app.
 
 6.
 In the Messages Table, place VoiceOver focus on a message thread 
 containing
 multiple messages.
 
 EXPECTED RESULTS:
 I expect VoiceOver to announce the actual number of messages in the 
 thread.
 
 ACTUAL RESULTS:
 VoiceOver says, "Multiple messages in thread."
 
 [End Feedback] 
 
 -- 
 The following information is important for all members of the VIPhone 
 list.
 
 If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, 
 or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact 
 

RE: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App

[Alex Stone]

Yes me too!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: 20 September 2015 19:02
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of 
Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App

It's fixed for me..

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Sep 20, 2015, at 12:32 PM, Donna  wrote:
> 
> No it hasn't been fixed in 9.1! Unless one keeps resetting network settings 
> or resetting all settings. 
> 
> Donna
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:11 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Here go the apple police again!!! If some one tells you that Apple has fixed 
>> a bug then by not bugging themb we are letting them better utilize their 
>> time. They don't have to waste time looking at problems which they have 
>> already resolved. I'll be muting this now.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 1:01 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I hope you realize that you just violated NDA by saying that.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:36 AM, Wil James  wrote:
 
 There is good news on the horizon. That issue is fixed and I OS 9.1.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I think it's great if people write in about this. FYI, I reported it 
> during the beta cycle and was told it was a duplicate bug report, so they 
> do know about it, but having more people say it's important to get it 
> fixed should help.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. I'll definitely do that, as that's an issue that's really annoying 
>> me at the moment. We should write to 
>> 
>> accessibil...@apple.com
>> 
>> Right?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 3:48 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> You may have noticed that in the currently released version of the 
>>> native
>>> iOS 9 Mail app, VoiceOver no longer announces the actual number of 
>>> messages
>>> in a collapsed message thread but, instead, merely says, "Multiple 
>>> messages
>>> in thread."  
>>> 
>>> If, like me, you would like to once again hear the specific number of
>>> messages in a collapsed message thread, please join me in submitting a
>>> feedback request to Apple.
>>> 
>>> The following is a feedback request I just submitted to Apple.  Feel 
>>> free to
>>> use any or all of it in your submissions.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> [Begin Feedback]
>>> 
>>> TITLE:
>>> Request to Have VoiceOver Once Again Announce the Number of Messages in 
>>> a
>>> collapsed Email Message Thread
>>> 
>>> DESCRIPTION:
>>> In iOS 8.x and earlier, VoiceOver would announce the actual number of
>>> messages in a collapsed email message thread.  In the currently released
>>> version of iOS 9.0, VoiceOver, instead of announcing the number of 
>>> messages
>>> in the thread, merely says, "Multiple messages in thread."  The number 
>>> of
>>> messages in a thread is important because said number may indicate how
>>> important or urgent the thread is to the user.
>>> 
>>> STEPS TO REPRODUCE:
>>> To reproduce this issue:
>>> 
>>> 1.
>>> From the LaunchPad, select Settings.
>>> 
>>> 2.
>>> Select Mail, Contacts, Calendars.
>>> 
>>> 3.
>>> Set Preview to None.
>>> 
>>> 4.
>>> Set "Organize by Thread" to, "ON".
>>> 
>>> 5.
>>> Launch the native iOS 9.0 Mail app.
>>> 
>>> 6.
>>> In the Messages Table, place VoiceOver focus on a message thread 
>>> containing
>>> multiple messages.
>>> 
>>> EXPECTED RESULTS:
>>> I expect VoiceOver to announce the actual number of messages in the 
>>> thread.
>>> 
>>> ACTUAL RESULTS:
>>> VoiceOver says, "Multiple messages in thread."
>>> 
>>> [End Feedback] 
>>> 
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>>> list.
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 

Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App

[Donna]

No it hasn't been fixed in 9.1! Unless one keeps resetting network settings or 
resetting all settings. 

Donna

> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:11 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  
> wrote:
> 
> Here go the apple police again!!! If some one tells you that Apple has fixed 
> a bug then by not bugging themb we are letting them better utilize their 
> time. They don't have to waste time looking at problems which they have 
> already resolved. I'll be muting this now.
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 1:01 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>> 
>> I hope you realize that you just violated NDA by saying that.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:36 AM, Wil James  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is good news on the horizon. That issue is fixed and I OS 9.1.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I think it's great if people write in about this. FYI, I reported it 
 during the beta cycle and was told it was a duplicate bug report, so they 
 do know about it, but having more people say it's important to get it 
 fixed should help.
 
 Best,
 Anna
 
 
 
> On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
> 
> Hi. I'll definitely do that, as that's an issue that's really annoying me 
> at the moment. We should write to 
> 
> accessibil...@apple.com
> 
> Right?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 3:48 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> You may have noticed that in the currently released version of the native
>> iOS 9 Mail app, VoiceOver no longer announces the actual number of 
>> messages
>> in a collapsed message thread but, instead, merely says, "Multiple 
>> messages
>> in thread."  
>> 
>> If, like me, you would like to once again hear the specific number of
>> messages in a collapsed message thread, please join me in submitting a
>> feedback request to Apple.
>> 
>> The following is a feedback request I just submitted to Apple.  Feel 
>> free to
>> use any or all of it in your submissions.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> [Begin Feedback]
>> 
>> TITLE:
>> Request to Have VoiceOver Once Again Announce the Number of Messages in a
>> collapsed Email Message Thread
>> 
>> DESCRIPTION:
>> In iOS 8.x and earlier, VoiceOver would announce the actual number of
>> messages in a collapsed email message thread.  In the currently released
>> version of iOS 9.0, VoiceOver, instead of announcing the number of 
>> messages
>> in the thread, merely says, "Multiple messages in thread."  The number of
>> messages in a thread is important because said number may indicate how
>> important or urgent the thread is to the user.
>> 
>> STEPS TO REPRODUCE:
>> To reproduce this issue:
>> 
>> 1.
>> From the LaunchPad, select Settings.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Select Mail, Contacts, Calendars.
>> 
>> 3.
>> Set Preview to None.
>> 
>> 4.
>> Set "Organize by Thread" to, "ON".
>> 
>> 5.
>> Launch the native iOS 9.0 Mail app.
>> 
>> 6.
>> In the Messages Table, place VoiceOver focus on a message thread 
>> containing
>> multiple messages.
>> 
>> EXPECTED RESULTS:
>> I expect VoiceOver to announce the actual number of messages in the 
>> thread.
>> 
>> ACTUAL RESULTS:
>> VoiceOver says, "Multiple messages in thread."
>> 
>> [End Feedback] 
>> 
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>> list.
>> 
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App

[Shawn Krasniuk]

No John, I'm not the Apple police. I'm just following list policy. If you don't 
like that, then take it up with Mark or Cara. And This policy states that there 
will be no disclosure of beta software.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 20, 2015, at 7:11 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  
> wrote:
> 
> Here go the apple police again!!! If some one tells you that Apple has fixed 
> a bug then by not bugging themb we are letting them better utilize their 
> time. They don't have to waste time looking at problems which they have 
> already resolved. I'll be muting this now.
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 1:01 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>> 
>> I hope you realize that you just violated NDA by saying that.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:36 AM, Wil James  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is good news on the horizon. That issue is fixed and I OS 9.1.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I think it's great if people write in about this. FYI, I reported it 
 during the beta cycle and was told it was a duplicate bug report, so they 
 do know about it, but having more people say it's important to get it 
 fixed should help.
 
 Best,
 Anna
 
 
 
> On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
> 
> Hi. I'll definitely do that, as that's an issue that's really annoying me 
> at the moment. We should write to 
> 
> accessibil...@apple.com
> 
> Right?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 3:48 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> You may have noticed that in the currently released version of the native
>> iOS 9 Mail app, VoiceOver no longer announces the actual number of 
>> messages
>> in a collapsed message thread but, instead, merely says, "Multiple 
>> messages
>> in thread."  
>> 
>> If, like me, you would like to once again hear the specific number of
>> messages in a collapsed message thread, please join me in submitting a
>> feedback request to Apple.
>> 
>> The following is a feedback request I just submitted to Apple.  Feel 
>> free to
>> use any or all of it in your submissions.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> [Begin Feedback]
>> 
>> TITLE:
>> Request to Have VoiceOver Once Again Announce the Number of Messages in a
>> collapsed Email Message Thread
>> 
>> DESCRIPTION:
>> In iOS 8.x and earlier, VoiceOver would announce the actual number of
>> messages in a collapsed email message thread.  In the currently released
>> version of iOS 9.0, VoiceOver, instead of announcing the number of 
>> messages
>> in the thread, merely says, "Multiple messages in thread."  The number of
>> messages in a thread is important because said number may indicate how
>> important or urgent the thread is to the user.
>> 
>> STEPS TO REPRODUCE:
>> To reproduce this issue:
>> 
>> 1.
>> From the LaunchPad, select Settings.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Select Mail, Contacts, Calendars.
>> 
>> 3.
>> Set Preview to None.
>> 
>> 4.
>> Set "Organize by Thread" to, "ON".
>> 
>> 5.
>> Launch the native iOS 9.0 Mail app.
>> 
>> 6.
>> In the Messages Table, place VoiceOver focus on a message thread 
>> containing
>> multiple messages.
>> 
>> EXPECTED RESULTS:
>> I expect VoiceOver to announce the actual number of messages in the 
>> thread.
>> 
>> ACTUAL RESULTS:
>> VoiceOver says, "Multiple messages in thread."
>> 
>> [End Feedback] 
>> 
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>> list.
>> 
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>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Well, fixed or not, we can't talk about it regardless. Let's close the topic 
before one of us gets in trouble by the mods eh?

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

> On Sep 20, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Donna  wrote:
> 
> No it hasn't been fixed in 9.1! Unless one keeps resetting network settings 
> or resetting all settings. 
> 
> Donna
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:11 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Here go the apple police again!!! If some one tells you that Apple has fixed 
>> a bug then by not bugging themb we are letting them better utilize their 
>> time. They don't have to waste time looking at problems which they have 
>> already resolved. I'll be muting this now.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 1:01 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I hope you realize that you just violated NDA by saying that.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:36 AM, Wil James  wrote:
 
 There is good news on the horizon. That issue is fixed and I OS 9.1.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I think it's great if people write in about this. FYI, I reported it 
> during the beta cycle and was told it was a duplicate bug report, so they 
> do know about it, but having more people say it's important to get it 
> fixed should help.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. I'll definitely do that, as that's an issue that's really annoying 
>> me at the moment. We should write to 
>> 
>> accessibil...@apple.com
>> 
>> Right?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 3:48 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> You may have noticed that in the currently released version of the 
>>> native
>>> iOS 9 Mail app, VoiceOver no longer announces the actual number of 
>>> messages
>>> in a collapsed message thread but, instead, merely says, "Multiple 
>>> messages
>>> in thread."  
>>> 
>>> If, like me, you would like to once again hear the specific number of
>>> messages in a collapsed message thread, please join me in submitting a
>>> feedback request to Apple.
>>> 
>>> The following is a feedback request I just submitted to Apple.  Feel 
>>> free to
>>> use any or all of it in your submissions.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> [Begin Feedback]
>>> 
>>> TITLE:
>>> Request to Have VoiceOver Once Again Announce the Number of Messages in 
>>> a
>>> collapsed Email Message Thread
>>> 
>>> DESCRIPTION:
>>> In iOS 8.x and earlier, VoiceOver would announce the actual number of
>>> messages in a collapsed email message thread.  In the currently released
>>> version of iOS 9.0, VoiceOver, instead of announcing the number of 
>>> messages
>>> in the thread, merely says, "Multiple messages in thread."  The number 
>>> of
>>> messages in a thread is important because said number may indicate how
>>> important or urgent the thread is to the user.
>>> 
>>> STEPS TO REPRODUCE:
>>> To reproduce this issue:
>>> 
>>> 1.
>>> From the LaunchPad, select Settings.
>>> 
>>> 2.
>>> Select Mail, Contacts, Calendars.
>>> 
>>> 3.
>>> Set Preview to None.
>>> 
>>> 4.
>>> Set "Organize by Thread" to, "ON".
>>> 
>>> 5.
>>> Launch the native iOS 9.0 Mail app.
>>> 
>>> 6.
>>> In the Messages Table, place VoiceOver focus on a message thread 
>>> containing
>>> multiple messages.
>>> 
>>> EXPECTED RESULTS:
>>> I expect VoiceOver to announce the actual number of messages in the 
>>> thread.
>>> 
>>> ACTUAL RESULTS:
>>> VoiceOver says, "Multiple messages in thread."
>>> 
>>> [End Feedback] 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> The following information is important for all members of the VIPhone 
>>> list.
>>> 
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App

[John Diakogeorgiou]

Here go the apple police again!!! If some one tells you that Apple has fixed a 
bug then by not bugging themb we are letting them better utilize their time. 
They don't have to waste time looking at problems which they have already 
resolved. I'll be muting this now.

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Sep 20, 2015, at 1:01 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> I hope you realize that you just violated NDA by saying that.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:36 AM, Wil James  wrote:
>> 
>> There is good news on the horizon. That issue is fixed and I OS 9.1.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I think it's great if people write in about this. FYI, I reported it during 
>>> the beta cycle and was told it was a duplicate bug report, so they do know 
>>> about it, but having more people say it's important to get it fixed should 
>>> help.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
 
 Hi. I'll definitely do that, as that's an issue that's really annoying me 
 at the moment. We should write to 
 
 accessibil...@apple.com
 
 Right?
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 18, 2015, at 3:48 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> You may have noticed that in the currently released version of the native
> iOS 9 Mail app, VoiceOver no longer announces the actual number of 
> messages
> in a collapsed message thread but, instead, merely says, "Multiple 
> messages
> in thread."  
> 
> If, like me, you would like to once again hear the specific number of
> messages in a collapsed message thread, please join me in submitting a
> feedback request to Apple.
> 
> The following is a feedback request I just submitted to Apple.  Feel free 
> to
> use any or all of it in your submissions.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mark
> 
> [Begin Feedback]
> 
> TITLE:
> Request to Have VoiceOver Once Again Announce the Number of Messages in a
> collapsed Email Message Thread
> 
> DESCRIPTION:
> In iOS 8.x and earlier, VoiceOver would announce the actual number of
> messages in a collapsed email message thread.  In the currently released
> version of iOS 9.0, VoiceOver, instead of announcing the number of 
> messages
> in the thread, merely says, "Multiple messages in thread."  The number of
> messages in a thread is important because said number may indicate how
> important or urgent the thread is to the user.
> 
> STEPS TO REPRODUCE:
> To reproduce this issue:
> 
> 1.
> From the LaunchPad, select Settings.
> 
> 2.
> Select Mail, Contacts, Calendars.
> 
> 3.
> Set Preview to None.
> 
> 4.
> Set "Organize by Thread" to, "ON".
> 
> 5.
> Launch the native iOS 9.0 Mail app.
> 
> 6.
> In the Messages Table, place VoiceOver focus on a message thread 
> containing
> multiple messages.
> 
> EXPECTED RESULTS:
> I expect VoiceOver to announce the actual number of messages in the 
> thread.
> 
> ACTUAL RESULTS:
> VoiceOver says, "Multiple messages in thread."
> 
> [End Feedback] 
> 
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App

[Jenifer Barr]

When will the beta come out? Also... I hope the call bug and the bug where vo 
crashes after sending email is fixed!!! Sorry beta police!!! Call it updater's 
remorse!!! lol 

Jenifer Barr
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:53 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
> wrote:
> 
> I can't say because the beta police may come after me.
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Donna  wrote:
>> 
>> What did you do to fix the bug I have restored all settings several 
>> times & did a hard reboot also. Still have the problem! Not that it's a deal 
>> breaker for me. 
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 7:45 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes me too!
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>>> Sent: 20 September 2015 19:02
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of 
>>> Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App
>>> 
>>> It's fixed for me..
>>> 
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>> 
 On Sep 20, 2015, at 12:32 PM, Donna  wrote:
 
 No it hasn't been fixed in 9.1! Unless one keeps resetting network 
 settings or resetting all settings. 
 
 Donna
 
> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:11 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  
> wrote:
> 
> Here go the apple police again!!! If some one tells you that Apple has 
> fixed a bug then by not bugging themb we are letting them better utilize 
> their time. They don't have to waste time looking at problems which they 
> have already resolved. I'll be muting this now.
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 1:01 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>> 
>> I hope you realize that you just violated NDA by saying that.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:36 AM, Wil James  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is good news on the horizon. That issue is fixed and I OS 9.1.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I think it's great if people write in about this. FYI, I reported it 
 during the beta cycle and was told it was a duplicate bug report, so 
 they do know about it, but having more people say it's important to 
 get it fixed should help.
 
 Best,
 Anna
 
 
 
> On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
> 
> Hi. I'll definitely do that, as that's an issue that's really 
> annoying me at the moment. We should write to 
> 
> accessibil...@apple.com
> 
> Right?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 3:48 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> You may have noticed that in the currently released version of the 
>> native
>> iOS 9 Mail app, VoiceOver no longer announces the actual number of 
>> messages
>> in a collapsed message thread but, instead, merely says, "Multiple 
>> messages
>> in thread."  
>> 
>> If, like me, you would like to once again hear the specific number of
>> messages in a collapsed message thread, please join me in submitting 
>> a
>> feedback request to Apple.
>> 
>> The following is a feedback request I just submitted to Apple.  Feel 
>> free to
>> use any or all of it in your submissions.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> [Begin Feedback]
>> 
>> TITLE:
>> Request to Have VoiceOver Once Again Announce the Number of Messages 
>> in a
>> collapsed Email Message Thread
>> 
>> DESCRIPTION:
>> In iOS 8.x and earlier, VoiceOver would announce the actual number of
>> messages in a collapsed email message thread.  In the currently 
>> released
>> version of iOS 9.0, VoiceOver, instead of announcing the number of 
>> messages
>> in the thread, merely says, "Multiple messages in thread."  The 
>> number of
>> messages in a thread is important because said number may indicate 
>> how
>> important or urgent the thread is to the user.
>> 
>> STEPS TO REPRODUCE:
>> To reproduce this issue:
>> 
>> 1.
>> From the LaunchPad, 

Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App

[John Diakogeorgiou]

It's fixed for me..

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Sep 20, 2015, at 12:32 PM, Donna  wrote:
> 
> No it hasn't been fixed in 9.1! Unless one keeps resetting network settings 
> or resetting all settings. 
> 
> Donna
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 8:11 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Here go the apple police again!!! If some one tells you that Apple has fixed 
>> a bug then by not bugging themb we are letting them better utilize their 
>> time. They don't have to waste time looking at problems which they have 
>> already resolved. I'll be muting this now.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 1:01 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I hope you realize that you just violated NDA by saying that.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:36 AM, Wil James  wrote:
 
 There is good news on the horizon. That issue is fixed and I OS 9.1.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I think it's great if people write in about this. FYI, I reported it 
> during the beta cycle and was told it was a duplicate bug report, so they 
> do know about it, but having more people say it's important to get it 
> fixed should help.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. I'll definitely do that, as that's an issue that's really annoying 
>> me at the moment. We should write to 
>> 
>> accessibil...@apple.com
>> 
>> Right?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 3:48 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> You may have noticed that in the currently released version of the 
>>> native
>>> iOS 9 Mail app, VoiceOver no longer announces the actual number of 
>>> messages
>>> in a collapsed message thread but, instead, merely says, "Multiple 
>>> messages
>>> in thread."  
>>> 
>>> If, like me, you would like to once again hear the specific number of
>>> messages in a collapsed message thread, please join me in submitting a
>>> feedback request to Apple.
>>> 
>>> The following is a feedback request I just submitted to Apple.  Feel 
>>> free to
>>> use any or all of it in your submissions.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> [Begin Feedback]
>>> 
>>> TITLE:
>>> Request to Have VoiceOver Once Again Announce the Number of Messages in 
>>> a
>>> collapsed Email Message Thread
>>> 
>>> DESCRIPTION:
>>> In iOS 8.x and earlier, VoiceOver would announce the actual number of
>>> messages in a collapsed email message thread.  In the currently released
>>> version of iOS 9.0, VoiceOver, instead of announcing the number of 
>>> messages
>>> in the thread, merely says, "Multiple messages in thread."  The number 
>>> of
>>> messages in a thread is important because said number may indicate how
>>> important or urgent the thread is to the user.
>>> 
>>> STEPS TO REPRODUCE:
>>> To reproduce this issue:
>>> 
>>> 1.
>>> From the LaunchPad, select Settings.
>>> 
>>> 2.
>>> Select Mail, Contacts, Calendars.
>>> 
>>> 3.
>>> Set Preview to None.
>>> 
>>> 4.
>>> Set "Organize by Thread" to, "ON".
>>> 
>>> 5.
>>> Launch the native iOS 9.0 Mail app.
>>> 
>>> 6.
>>> In the Messages Table, place VoiceOver focus on a message thread 
>>> containing
>>> multiple messages.
>>> 
>>> EXPECTED RESULTS:
>>> I expect VoiceOver to announce the actual number of messages in the 
>>> thread.
>>> 
>>> ACTUAL RESULTS:
>>> VoiceOver says, "Multiple messages in thread."
>>> 
>>> [End Feedback] 
>>> 
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App

[Shawn Krasniuk]

I hope you realize that you just violated NDA by saying that.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

> On Sep 19, 2015, at 11:36 AM, Wil James  wrote:
> 
> There is good news on the horizon. That issue is fixed and I OS 9.1.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I think it's great if people write in about this. FYI, I reported it during 
>> the beta cycle and was told it was a duplicate bug report, so they do know 
>> about it, but having more people say it's important to get it fixed should 
>> help.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi. I'll definitely do that, as that's an issue that's really annoying me 
>>> at the moment. We should write to 
>>> 
>>> accessibil...@apple.com
>>> 
>>> Right?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 18, 2015, at 3:48 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 You may have noticed that in the currently released version of the native
 iOS 9 Mail app, VoiceOver no longer announces the actual number of messages
 in a collapsed message thread but, instead, merely says, "Multiple messages
 in thread."  
 
 If, like me, you would like to once again hear the specific number of
 messages in a collapsed message thread, please join me in submitting a
 feedback request to Apple.
 
 The following is a feedback request I just submitted to Apple.  Feel free 
 to
 use any or all of it in your submissions.
 
 Thank you,
 
 Mark
 
 [Begin Feedback]
 
 TITLE:
 Request to Have VoiceOver Once Again Announce the Number of Messages in a
 collapsed Email Message Thread
 
 DESCRIPTION:
 In iOS 8.x and earlier, VoiceOver would announce the actual number of
 messages in a collapsed email message thread.  In the currently released
 version of iOS 9.0, VoiceOver, instead of announcing the number of messages
 in the thread, merely says, "Multiple messages in thread."  The number of
 messages in a thread is important because said number may indicate how
 important or urgent the thread is to the user.
 
 STEPS TO REPRODUCE:
 To reproduce this issue:
 
 1.
 From the LaunchPad, select Settings.
 
 2.
 Select Mail, Contacts, Calendars.
 
 3.
 Set Preview to None.
 
 4.
 Set "Organize by Thread" to, "ON".
 
 5.
 Launch the native iOS 9.0 Mail app.
 
 6.
 In the Messages Table, place VoiceOver focus on a message thread containing
 multiple messages.
 
 EXPECTED RESULTS:
 I expect VoiceOver to announce the actual number of messages in the thread.
 
 ACTUAL RESULTS:
 VoiceOver says, "Multiple messages in thread."
 
 [End Feedback] 
 
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App

[Wil James]

There is good news on the horizon. That issue is fixed and I OS 9.1.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I think it's great if people write in about this. FYI, I reported it during 
> the beta cycle and was told it was a duplicate bug report, so they do know 
> about it, but having more people say it's important to get it fixed should 
> help.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. I'll definitely do that, as that's an issue that's really annoying me at 
>> the moment. We should write to 
>> 
>> accessibil...@apple.com
>> 
>> Right?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 3:48 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> You may have noticed that in the currently released version of the native
>>> iOS 9 Mail app, VoiceOver no longer announces the actual number of messages
>>> in a collapsed message thread but, instead, merely says, "Multiple messages
>>> in thread."  
>>> 
>>> If, like me, you would like to once again hear the specific number of
>>> messages in a collapsed message thread, please join me in submitting a
>>> feedback request to Apple.
>>> 
>>> The following is a feedback request I just submitted to Apple.  Feel free to
>>> use any or all of it in your submissions.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> [Begin Feedback]
>>> 
>>> TITLE:
>>> Request to Have VoiceOver Once Again Announce the Number of Messages in a
>>> collapsed Email Message Thread
>>> 
>>> DESCRIPTION:
>>> In iOS 8.x and earlier, VoiceOver would announce the actual number of
>>> messages in a collapsed email message thread.  In the currently released
>>> version of iOS 9.0, VoiceOver, instead of announcing the number of messages
>>> in the thread, merely says, "Multiple messages in thread."  The number of
>>> messages in a thread is important because said number may indicate how
>>> important or urgent the thread is to the user.
>>> 
>>> STEPS TO REPRODUCE:
>>> To reproduce this issue:
>>> 
>>> 1.
>>> From the LaunchPad, select Settings.
>>> 
>>> 2.
>>> Select Mail, Contacts, Calendars.
>>> 
>>> 3.
>>> Set Preview to None.
>>> 
>>> 4.
>>> Set "Organize by Thread" to, "ON".
>>> 
>>> 5.
>>> Launch the native iOS 9.0 Mail app.
>>> 
>>> 6.
>>> In the Messages Table, place VoiceOver focus on a message thread containing
>>> multiple messages.
>>> 
>>> EXPECTED RESULTS:
>>> I expect VoiceOver to announce the actual number of messages in the thread.
>>> 
>>> ACTUAL RESULTS:
>>> VoiceOver says, "Multiple messages in thread."
>>> 
>>> [End Feedback] 
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

I think it's great if people write in about this. FYI, I reported it during the 
beta cycle and was told it was a duplicate bug report, so they do know about 
it, but having more people say it's important to get it fixed should help.

Best,
Anna



> On Sep 18, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
> 
> Hi. I'll definitely do that, as that's an issue that's really annoying me at 
> the moment. We should write to 
> 
> accessibil...@apple.com
> 
> Right?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2015, at 3:48 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> You may have noticed that in the currently released version of the native
>> iOS 9 Mail app, VoiceOver no longer announces the actual number of messages
>> in a collapsed message thread but, instead, merely says, "Multiple messages
>> in thread."  
>> 
>> If, like me, you would like to once again hear the specific number of
>> messages in a collapsed message thread, please join me in submitting a
>> feedback request to Apple.
>> 
>> The following is a feedback request I just submitted to Apple.  Feel free to
>> use any or all of it in your submissions.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> [Begin Feedback]
>> 
>> TITLE:
>> Request to Have VoiceOver Once Again Announce the Number of Messages in a
>> collapsed Email Message Thread
>> 
>> DESCRIPTION:
>> In iOS 8.x and earlier, VoiceOver would announce the actual number of
>> messages in a collapsed email message thread.  In the currently released
>> version of iOS 9.0, VoiceOver, instead of announcing the number of messages
>> in the thread, merely says, "Multiple messages in thread."  The number of
>> messages in a thread is important because said number may indicate how
>> important or urgent the thread is to the user.
>> 
>> STEPS TO REPRODUCE:
>> To reproduce this issue:
>> 
>> 1.
>> From the LaunchPad, select Settings.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Select Mail, Contacts, Calendars.
>> 
>> 3.
>> Set Preview to None.
>> 
>> 4.
>> Set "Organize by Thread" to, "ON".
>> 
>> 5.
>> Launch the native iOS 9.0 Mail app.
>> 
>> 6.
>> In the Messages Table, place VoiceOver focus on a message thread containing
>> multiple messages.
>> 
>> EXPECTED RESULTS:
>> I expect VoiceOver to announce the actual number of messages in the thread.
>> 
>> ACTUAL RESULTS:
>> VoiceOver says, "Multiple messages in thread."
>> 
>> [End Feedback] 
>> 
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Re: A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App

[Tom Lange]

Hi. I'll definitely do that, as that's an issue that's really annoying me at 
the moment. We should write to 

accessibil...@apple.com

Right?


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> On Sep 18, 2015, at 3:48 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> You may have noticed that in the currently released version of the native
> iOS 9 Mail app, VoiceOver no longer announces the actual number of messages
> in a collapsed message thread but, instead, merely says, "Multiple messages
> in thread."  
> 
> If, like me, you would like to once again hear the specific number of
> messages in a collapsed message thread, please join me in submitting a
> feedback request to Apple.
> 
> The following is a feedback request I just submitted to Apple.  Feel free to
> use any or all of it in your submissions.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mark
> 
> [Begin Feedback]
> 
> TITLE:
> Request to Have VoiceOver Once Again Announce the Number of Messages in a
> collapsed Email Message Thread
> 
> DESCRIPTION:
> In iOS 8.x and earlier, VoiceOver would announce the actual number of
> messages in a collapsed email message thread.  In the currently released
> version of iOS 9.0, VoiceOver, instead of announcing the number of messages
> in the thread, merely says, "Multiple messages in thread."  The number of
> messages in a thread is important because said number may indicate how
> important or urgent the thread is to the user.
> 
> STEPS TO REPRODUCE:
> To reproduce this issue:
> 
> 1.
> From the LaunchPad, select Settings.
> 
> 2.
> Select Mail, Contacts, Calendars.
> 
> 3.
> Set Preview to None.
> 
> 4.
> Set "Organize by Thread" to, "ON".
> 
> 5.
> Launch the native iOS 9.0 Mail app.
> 
> 6.
> In the Messages Table, place VoiceOver focus on a message thread containing
> multiple messages.
> 
> EXPECTED RESULTS:
> I expect VoiceOver to announce the actual number of messages in the thread.
> 
> ACTUAL RESULTS:
> VoiceOver says, "Multiple messages in thread."
> 
> [End Feedback] 
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A CALL TO ACTION: VoiceOver No Longer Announcing Number of Messages in the Native iOS 9 Mail App

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

You may have noticed that in the currently released version of the native
iOS 9 Mail app, VoiceOver no longer announces the actual number of messages
in a collapsed message thread but, instead, merely says, "Multiple messages
in thread."  

If, like me, you would like to once again hear the specific number of
messages in a collapsed message thread, please join me in submitting a
feedback request to Apple.

The following is a feedback request I just submitted to Apple.  Feel free to
use any or all of it in your submissions.

Thank you,

Mark

[Begin Feedback]

TITLE:
Request to Have VoiceOver Once Again Announce the Number of Messages in a
collapsed Email Message Thread

DESCRIPTION:
In iOS 8.x and earlier, VoiceOver would announce the actual number of
messages in a collapsed email message thread.  In the currently released
version of iOS 9.0, VoiceOver, instead of announcing the number of messages
in the thread, merely says, "Multiple messages in thread."  The number of
messages in a thread is important because said number may indicate how
important or urgent the thread is to the user.

STEPS TO REPRODUCE:
To reproduce this issue:

1.
>From the LaunchPad, select Settings.

2.
Select Mail, Contacts, Calendars.

3.
Set Preview to None.

4.
Set "Organize by Thread" to, "ON".

5.
Launch the native iOS 9.0 Mail app.

6.
In the Messages Table, place VoiceOver focus on a message thread containing
multiple messages.

EXPECTED RESULTS:
I expect VoiceOver to announce the actual number of messages in the thread.

ACTUAL RESULTS:
VoiceOver says, "Multiple messages in thread."

[End Feedback] 

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