RE: Air Quality info

2020-09-16 Thread chaltain
Plus, it just makes sense to me that dumping all of this pollution into the air 
and water and soil isn’t a good idea, and it will have some negative 
consequences.

 

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Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 9:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Air Quality info

 

So trying to cite proof on this list would be seriously off-topic, David. But 
the evidence is out there and has been for years. All you have to do is Google 
it and ignore things like Fox News and other wild conspiracy theory idiots and 
you’ll be fine. The statistics are out there. We are causing it. Go research it.

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 15, 2020, at 7:46 PM, David Moore mailto:jesusloves1...@gmail.com> > wrote:



What is the proof that the change in our climate is man made or is it a pattern 
of hot than cold that the Earth has experienced for all time!

Maybe it will start getting colder many years from now!

How do we know if it is man made!

I would really like to hear the proof you have!

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows 10

 

From: Simon A Fogarty <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 10:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Air Quality info

 

Reno,

I heard they have great beach front property to sell,

 

Hell I believe everything he says!

 

He has to be one of the smartest people on the planet,

 

Telling the press that science hasn’t proved anything has got to be one of the 
smartest statements ever made by a muppet!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2020 12:51 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Air Quality info

 

We do not have a leader. 

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

If you believe what he says, I'll gladly sell you some ocean front property 
just outside Reno Nevada.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

On Sep 15, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Simon A Fogarty < <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> 
si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

 

But Richard,

 

It’s ok your leader says it’s not effecting global warming at all, and science 
hasn’t proved anything.

 

From:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com < 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2020 2:22 am
To:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Air Quality info

 

Rather than mention this on a thread about NFL games, I am giving it its own 
thread.

IN Portland, Oregon today, the air quality at 7:09 AM is 453 which is quite 
hazardous.

You can ask Siri for the Air quality in most cities in the United States.

I do not know what information is available in other countries.

Last week, Portland, Oregon had the worst air quality in the world due to the 
smoke from the fires, sometimes going well over 500 and eugene Oregon hit 
almost 700..

Since California is also dealing with fires a good comparison is Los Angeles, 
which is considered unhealthy right now at 168.

Once you get away from the fires, for example, Pheonix, Arizona is moderate at 
59, New York City is good at 32.

Those last two are likely from normal air pollution.

 

IN Portland, they are not expecting much improvement until Thursday or Friday 
when we may finally get some rain and air flow from the west.

 

HTH,

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

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RE: Air Quality info

2020-09-15 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Yeah it’s like covid being caused by 5G mobile technology,

Just means I can’t wait until 7g mobile technology when I get a third head!



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2020 3:19 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Air Quality info

Well, just remember that some opinions are actually informed by science, 
knowledge and facts, while other opinions are informed but absolutely nothing, 
except for stupid conspiracy ideas. So saying that you don’t believe anybody 
just because they say it is great. But don’t Forget to put more stock in the 
opinions of those who actually study and have evidence, as opposed to those who 
are sticking their heads in the sand and wishfully thinking the problem would 
go away.


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 15, 2020, at 7:54 PM, David Moore 
mailto:jesusloves1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I sure will!
I am a researcher at heart, and do not believe anything just because someone 
says it is so!
Have a great one!
David Moore

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From: Mary Otten<mailto:motte...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 10:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Air Quality info

So trying to cite proof on this list would be seriously off-topic, David. But 
the evidence is out there and has been for years. All you have to do is Google 
it and ignore things like Fox News and other wild conspiracy theory idiots and 
you’ll be fine. The statistics are out there. We are causing it. Go research it.

Sent from my iPhone



On Sep 15, 2020, at 7:46 PM, David Moore 
mailto:jesusloves1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

What is the proof that the change in our climate is man made or is it a pattern 
of hot than cold that the Earth has experienced for all time!
Maybe it will start getting colder many years from now!
How do we know if it is man made!
I would really like to hear the proof you have!
David Moore

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

From: Simon A Fogarty<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 10:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Air Quality info

Reno,
I heard they have great beach front property to sell,

Hell I believe everything he says!

He has to be one of the smartest people on the planet,

Telling the press that science hasn’t proved anything has got to be one of the 
smartest statements ever made by a muppet!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2020 12:51 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Air Quality info

We do not have a leader.
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
If you believe what he says, I'll gladly sell you some ocean front property 
just outside Reno Nevada.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 15, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

But Richard,

It’s ok your leader says it’s not effecting global warming at all, and science 
hasn’t proved anything.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2020 2:22 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Air Quality info

Rather than mention this on a thread about NFL games, I am giving it its own 
thread.
IN Portland, Oregon today, the air quality at 7:09 AM is 453 which is quite 
hazardous.
You can ask Siri for the Air quality in most cities in the United States.
I do not know what information is available in other countries.
Last week, Portland, Oregon had the worst air quality in the world due to the 
smoke from the fires, sometimes going well over 500 and eugene Oregon hit 
almost 700..
Since California is also dealing with fires a good comparison is Los Angeles, 
which is considered unhealthy right now at 168.
Once you get away from the fires, for example, Pheonix, Arizona is moderate at 
59, New York City is good at 32.
Those last two are likely from normal air pollution.

IN Portland, they are not expecting much improvement until Thursday or Friday 
when we may finally get some rain and air flow from the west.

HTH,

Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable

RE: Air Quality info

2020-09-15 Thread Simon A Fogarty
If global warming and air quality isn’t an issue,

How come there are reports of people in the state if not the city of New York 
seeing the smoke clouds from Oregon / western states that are currently on fire,


May be it’s just the sun going down early in parts of the USA.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2020 2:52 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Air Quality info

So trying to cite proof on this list would be seriously off-topic, David. But 
the evidence is out there and has been for years. All you have to do is Google 
it and ignore things like Fox News and other wild conspiracy theory idiots and 
you’ll be fine. The statistics are out there. We are causing it. Go research it.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 15, 2020, at 7:46 PM, David Moore 
mailto:jesusloves1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

What is the proof that the change in our climate is man made or is it a pattern 
of hot than cold that the Earth has experienced for all time!
Maybe it will start getting colder many years from now!
How do we know if it is man made!
I would really like to hear the proof you have!
David Moore

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

From: Simon A Fogarty<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 10:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Air Quality info

Reno,
I heard they have great beach front property to sell,

Hell I believe everything he says!

He has to be one of the smartest people on the planet,

Telling the press that science hasn’t proved anything has got to be one of the 
smartest statements ever made by a muppet!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2020 12:51 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Air Quality info

We do not have a leader.
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
If you believe what he says, I'll gladly sell you some ocean front property 
just outside Reno Nevada.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 15, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

But Richard,

It’s ok your leader says it’s not effecting global warming at all, and science 
hasn’t proved anything.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2020 2:22 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Air Quality info

Rather than mention this on a thread about NFL games, I am giving it its own 
thread.
IN Portland, Oregon today, the air quality at 7:09 AM is 453 which is quite 
hazardous.
You can ask Siri for the Air quality in most cities in the United States.
I do not know what information is available in other countries.
Last week, Portland, Oregon had the worst air quality in the world due to the 
smoke from the fires, sometimes going well over 500 and eugene Oregon hit 
almost 700..
Since California is also dealing with fires a good comparison is Los Angeles, 
which is considered unhealthy right now at 168.
Once you get away from the fires, for example, Pheonix, Arizona is moderate at 
59, New York City is good at 32.
Those last two are likely from normal air pollution.

IN Portland, they are not expecting much improvement until Thursday or Friday 
when we may finally get some rain and air flow from the west.

HTH,

Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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Re: Air Quality info

2020-09-15 Thread Marty Hutchings
Please, this  is  not the place for this discussion.

Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William 
Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, 
signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020

From: David Moore 
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 9:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Air Quality info

What is the proof that the change in our climate is man made or is it a pattern 
of hot than cold that the Earth has experienced for all time!

Maybe it will start getting colder many years from now!

How do we know if it is man made!

I would really like to hear the proof you have!

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 10:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Air Quality info

 

Reno,

I heard they have great beach front property to sell,

 

Hell I believe everything he says!

 

He has to be one of the smartest people on the planet,

 

Telling the press that science hasn’t proved anything has got to be one of the 
smartest statements ever made by a muppet!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2020 12:51 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Air Quality info

 

We do not have a leader. 

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

If you believe what he says, I'll gladly sell you some ocean front property 
just outside Reno Nevada.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

  On Sep 15, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

   

  But Richard,

   

  It’s ok your leader says it’s not effecting global warming at all, and 
science hasn’t proved anything.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2020 2:22 am
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Air Quality info

   

  Rather than mention this on a thread about NFL games, I am giving it its own 
thread.

  IN Portland, Oregon today, the air quality at 7:09 AM is 453 which is quite 
hazardous.

  You can ask Siri for the Air quality in most cities in the United States.

  I do not know what information is available in other countries.

  Last week, Portland, Oregon had the worst air quality in the world due to the 
smoke from the fires, sometimes going well over 500 and eugene Oregon hit 
almost 700..

  Since California is also dealing with fires a good comparison is Los Angeles, 
which is considered unhealthy right now at 168.

  Once you get away from the fires, for example, Pheonix, Arizona is moderate 
at 59, New York City is good at 32.

  Those last two are likely from normal air pollution.

   

  IN Portland, they are not expecting much improvement until Thursday or Friday 
when we may finally get some rain and air flow from the west.

   

  HTH,

   

  Richard

  "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

   

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Re: Air Quality info

2020-09-15 Thread Holly
Here is an article that explains  the root of the whole problem.  No one seems 
to mention this.

“
Population problem



We do have 7.3 billion people on the planet. We continually choose not to face 
this dilemma, which is central to most human and non-human problems on the 
planet. We create consumers and therefore pollution. We create laborers and 
therefore stunning competition for jobs, many of which are being reduced by 
automation.. 

The economy and our "busyness" comes at a cost to the environment. With a 
reasonable population this cost is low. With billions it is overwhelming to the 
environment and all of our systems. For the non-human species of the planet we 
have little regard.. 

There is only one revolution: non-violent population reduction - no guns, no 
bombs. If everyone understood the ramifications of world population, they would 
know the consequences of their reproductive behavior. Then they would have 
perhaps only one child, or no children. And that is everyone, no matter what 
their race, economic status or religion happens to be.. 

A better world is available to all, but not by continually increasing our 
population. Anything else is just wishful thinking.. 





Population overstressing resources. .
Life on earth is doomed. The climate change talks in Paris are just a delaying 
tactic to the inevitable. What was not discussed? The underlying cause: 
population growth.. 

We use less coal per person, more efficient cars, solar panels, wind turbines, 
and the problems get worse.. 

It took the whole of human history up to 1960 to reach 3 billion people, and 
yet by 2011 it was 7 billion. So, in 51 years more people were added than in 
all the rest of history.. 

It's like a math problem. For every increase in population, the byproducts 
outpace whatever reforms are made, and the problem for the environment gets 
worse. More people means fewer forests, more pollution, more food needed, more 
natural resources used, etc.. 

And, sadly, it is a problem that cannot be solved due to our current business 
model, which requires business to constantly grow. That requires more 
customers, and so more population, and so on.. 

So, with the climate talks, we have kicked the can down the road a little.. 

Maybe the next time the world leaders will discuss the real problem _ 
over-population _ before the world becomes like the movie "Soylent Green.". 

Jon Stanescu . 

Sprague, WA .”


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Re: Air Quality info

2020-09-15 Thread Mary Otten
Well, just remember that some opinions are actually informed by science, 
knowledge and facts, while other opinions are informed but absolutely nothing, 
except for stupid conspiracy ideas. So saying that you don’t believe anybody 
just because they say it is great. But don’t Forget to put more stock in the 
opinions of those who actually study and have evidence, as opposed to those who 
are sticking their heads in the sand and wishfully thinking the problem would 
go away.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2020, at 7:54 PM, David Moore  wrote:
> 
> 
> I sure will!
> I am a researcher at heart, and do not believe anything just because someone 
> says it is so!
> Have a great one!
> David Moore
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Mary Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 10:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Air Quality info
>  
> So trying to cite proof on this list would be seriously off-topic, David. But 
> the evidence is out there and has been for years. All you have to do is 
> Google it and ignore things like Fox News and other wild conspiracy theory 
> idiots and you’ll be fine. The statistics are out there. We are causing it. 
> Go research it.
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Sep 15, 2020, at 7:46 PM, David Moore  wrote:
> 
> 
> What is the proof that the change in our climate is man made or is it a 
> pattern of hot than cold that the Earth has experienced for all time!
> Maybe it will start getting colder many years from now!
> How do we know if it is man made!
> I would really like to hear the proof you have!
> David Moore
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 10:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Air Quality info
>  
> Reno,
> I heard they have great beach front property to sell,
>  
> Hell I believe everything he says!
>  
> He has to be one of the smartest people on the planet,
>  
> Telling the press that science hasn’t proved anything has got to be one of 
> the smartest statements ever made by a muppet!
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2020 12:51 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Air Quality info
>  
> We do not have a leader.
> Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
> If you believe what he says, I'll gladly sell you some ocean front property 
> just outside Reno Nevada.
>  
> 
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
>  
> 
> On Sep 15, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> But Richard,
>  
> It’s ok your leader says it’s not effecting global warming at all, and 
> science hasn’t proved anything.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2020 2:22 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Air Quality info
>  
> Rather than mention this on a thread about NFL games, I am giving it its own 
> thread.
> IN Portland, Oregon today, the air quality at 7:09 AM is 453 which is quite 
> hazardous.
> You can ask Siri for the Air quality in most cities in the United States.
> I do not know what information is available in other countries.
> Last week, Portland, Oregon had the worst air quality in the world due to the 
> smoke from the fires, sometimes going well over 500 and eugene Oregon hit 
> almost 700..
> Since California is also dealing with fires a good comparison is Los Angeles, 
> which is considered unhealthy right now at 168.
> Once you get away from the fires, for example, Pheonix, Arizona is moderate 
> at 59, New York City is good at 32.
> Those last two are likely from normal air pollution.
>  
> IN Portland, they are not expecting much improvement until Thursday or Friday 
> when we may finally get some rain and air flow from the west.
>  
> HTH,
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
>  
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RE: Air Quality info

2020-09-15 Thread David Moore
I sure will!I am a researcher at heart, and do not believe anything just because someone says it is so!Have a great one!David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Mary OttenSent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 10:51 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Air Quality info So trying to cite proof on this list would be seriously off-topic, David. But the evidence is out there and has been for years. All you have to do is Google it and ignore things like Fox News and other wild conspiracy theory idiots and you’ll be fine. The statistics are out there. We are causing it. Go research it. Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 15, 2020, at 7:46 PM, David Moore  wrote:What is the proof that the change in our climate is man made or is it a pattern of hot than cold that the Earth has experienced for all time!Maybe it will start getting colder many years from now!How do we know if it is man made!I would really like to hear the proof you have!David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Simon A FogartySent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 10:26 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Air Quality info Reno,I heard they have great beach front property to sell, Hell I believe everything he says! He has to be one of the smartest people on the planet, Telling the press that science hasn’t proved anything has got to be one of the smartest statements ever made by a muppet! From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Wednesday, 16 September 2020 12:51 pmTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Air Quality info We do not have a leader. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.If you believe what he says, I'll gladly sell you some ocean front property just outside Reno Nevada.   Richard"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert On Sep 15, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: But Richard, It’s ok your leader says it’s not effecting global warming at all, and science hasn’t proved anything. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Wednesday, 16 September 2020 2:22 amTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Air Quality info Rather than mention this on a thread about NFL games, I am giving it its own thread.IN Portland, Oregon today, the air quality at 7:09 AM is 453 which is quite hazardous.You can ask Siri for the Air quality in most cities in the United States.I do not know what information is available in other countries.Last week, Portland, Oregon had the worst air quality in the world due to the smoke from the fires, sometimes going well over 500 and eugene Oregon hit almost 700..Since California is also dealing with fires a good comparison is Los Angeles, which is considered unhealthy right now at 168.Once you get away from the fires, for example, Pheonix, Arizona is moderate at 59, New York City is good at 32.Those last two are likely from normal air pollution. IN Portland, they are not expecting much improvement until Thursday or Friday when we may finally get some rain and air flow from the west. HTH, Richard"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR17MB1981ECDFFDC5B513926A5B2DB7200%40MWHPR17MB1981.namprd17.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara 

Re: Air Quality info

2020-09-15 Thread Mary Otten
So trying to cite proof on this list would be seriously off-topic, David. But 
the evidence is out there and has been for years. All you have to do is Google 
it and ignore things like Fox News and other wild conspiracy theory idiots and 
you’ll be fine. The statistics are out there. We are causing it. Go research it.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2020, at 7:46 PM, David Moore  wrote:
> 
> 
> What is the proof that the change in our climate is man made or is it a 
> pattern of hot than cold that the Earth has experienced for all time!
> Maybe it will start getting colder many years from now!
> How do we know if it is man made!
> I would really like to hear the proof you have!
> David Moore
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 10:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Air Quality info
>  
> Reno,
> I heard they have great beach front property to sell,
>  
> Hell I believe everything he says!
>  
> He has to be one of the smartest people on the planet,
>  
> Telling the press that science hasn’t proved anything has got to be one of 
> the smartest statements ever made by a muppet!
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2020 12:51 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Air Quality info
>  
> We do not have a leader.
> Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
> If you believe what he says, I'll gladly sell you some ocean front property 
> just outside Reno Nevada.
>  
> 
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
>  
> 
> On Sep 15, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> But Richard,
>  
> It’s ok your leader says it’s not effecting global warming at all, and 
> science hasn’t proved anything.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2020 2:22 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Air Quality info
>  
> Rather than mention this on a thread about NFL games, I am giving it its own 
> thread.
> IN Portland, Oregon today, the air quality at 7:09 AM is 453 which is quite 
> hazardous.
> You can ask Siri for the Air quality in most cities in the United States.
> I do not know what information is available in other countries.
> Last week, Portland, Oregon had the worst air quality in the world due to the 
> smoke from the fires, sometimes going well over 500 and eugene Oregon hit 
> almost 700..
> Since California is also dealing with fires a good comparison is Los Angeles, 
> which is considered unhealthy right now at 168.
> Once you get away from the fires, for example, Pheonix, Arizona is moderate 
> at 59, New York City is good at 32.
> Those last two are likely from normal air pollution.
>  
> IN Portland, they are not expecting much improvement until Thursday or Friday 
> when we may finally get some rain and air flow from the west.
>  
> HTH,
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
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RE: Air Quality info

2020-09-15 Thread David Moore
What is the proof that the change in our climate is man made or is it a pattern of hot than cold that the Earth has experienced for all time!Maybe it will start getting colder many years from now!How do we know if it is man made!I would really like to hear the proof you have!David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Simon A FogartySent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 10:26 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Air Quality info Reno,I heard they have great beach front property to sell, Hell I believe everything he says! He has to be one of the smartest people on the planet, Telling the press that science hasn’t proved anything has got to be one of the smartest statements ever made by a muppet! From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Wednesday, 16 September 2020 12:51 pmTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Air Quality info We do not have a leader. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.If you believe what he says, I'll gladly sell you some ocean front property just outside Reno Nevada.   Richard"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert On Sep 15, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: But Richard, It’s ok your leader says it’s not effecting global warming at all, and science hasn’t proved anything. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Wednesday, 16 September 2020 2:22 amTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Air Quality info Rather than mention this on a thread about NFL games, I am giving it its own thread.IN Portland, Oregon today, the air quality at 7:09 AM is 453 which is quite hazardous.You can ask Siri for the Air quality in most cities in the United States.I do not know what information is available in other countries.Last week, Portland, Oregon had the worst air quality in the world due to the smoke from the fires, sometimes going well over 500 and eugene Oregon hit almost 700..Since California is also dealing with fires a good comparison is Los Angeles, which is considered unhealthy right now at 168.Once you get away from the fires, for example, Pheonix, Arizona is moderate at 59, New York City is good at 32.Those last two are likely from normal air pollution. IN Portland, they are not expecting much improvement until Thursday or Friday when we may finally get some rain and air flow from the west. HTH, Richard"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR17MB1981ECDFFDC5B513926A5B2DB7200%40MWHPR17MB1981.namprd17.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SYCPR01MB40481BB978F2CF76CEA5EAE28A200%40SYCPR01MB4048.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns abo

RE: Air Quality info

2020-09-15 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Reno,
I heard they have great beach front property to sell,

Hell I believe everything he says!

He has to be one of the smartest people on the planet,

Telling the press that science hasn’t proved anything has got to be one of the 
smartest statements ever made by a muppet!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2020 12:51 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Air Quality info

We do not have a leader.
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
If you believe what he says, I'll gladly sell you some ocean front property 
just outside Reno Nevada.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Sep 15, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

But Richard,

It’s ok your leader says it’s not effecting global warming at all, and science 
hasn’t proved anything.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2020 2:22 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Air Quality info

Rather than mention this on a thread about NFL games, I am giving it its own 
thread.
IN Portland, Oregon today, the air quality at 7:09 AM is 453 which is quite 
hazardous.
You can ask Siri for the Air quality in most cities in the United States.
I do not know what information is available in other countries.
Last week, Portland, Oregon had the worst air quality in the world due to the 
smoke from the fires, sometimes going well over 500 and eugene Oregon hit 
almost 700..
Since California is also dealing with fires a good comparison is Los Angeles, 
which is considered unhealthy right now at 168.
Once you get away from the fires, for example, Pheonix, Arizona is moderate at 
59, New York City is good at 32.
Those last two are likely from normal air pollution.

IN Portland, they are not expecting much improvement until Thursday or Friday 
when we may finally get some rain and air flow from the west.

HTH,

Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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Re: Air Quality info

2020-09-15 Thread Richard Turner
We do not have a leader.
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
If you believe what he says, I'll gladly sell you some ocean front property 
just outside Reno Nevada.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 15, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:


But Richard,

It’s ok your leader says it’s not effecting global warming at all, and science 
hasn’t proved anything.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2020 2:22 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Air Quality info

Rather than mention this on a thread about NFL games, I am giving it its own 
thread.
IN Portland, Oregon today, the air quality at 7:09 AM is 453 which is quite 
hazardous.
You can ask Siri for the Air quality in most cities in the United States.
I do not know what information is available in other countries.
Last week, Portland, Oregon had the worst air quality in the world due to the 
smoke from the fires, sometimes going well over 500 and eugene Oregon hit 
almost 700..
Since California is also dealing with fires a good comparison is Los Angeles, 
which is considered unhealthy right now at 168.
Once you get away from the fires, for example, Pheonix, Arizona is moderate at 
59, New York City is good at 32.
Those last two are likely from normal air pollution.

IN Portland, they are not expecting much improvement until Thursday or Friday 
when we may finally get some rain and air flow from the west.

HTH,

Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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RE: Air Quality info

2020-09-15 Thread Simon A Fogarty
But Richard,

It’s ok your leader says it’s not effecting global warming at all, and science 
hasn’t proved anything.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2020 2:22 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Air Quality info

Rather than mention this on a thread about NFL games, I am giving it its own 
thread.
IN Portland, Oregon today, the air quality at 7:09 AM is 453 which is quite 
hazardous.
You can ask Siri for the Air quality in most cities in the United States.
I do not know what information is available in other countries.
Last week, Portland, Oregon had the worst air quality in the world due to the 
smoke from the fires, sometimes going well over 500 and eugene Oregon hit 
almost 700..
Since California is also dealing with fires a good comparison is Los Angeles, 
which is considered unhealthy right now at 168.
Once you get away from the fires, for example, Pheonix, Arizona is moderate at 
59, New York City is good at 32.
Those last two are likely from normal air pollution.

IN Portland, they are not expecting much improvement until Thursday or Friday 
when we may finally get some rain and air flow from the west.

HTH,

Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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Air Quality info

2020-09-15 Thread Richard Turner
Rather than mention this on a thread about NFL games, I am giving it its own 
thread.
IN Portland, Oregon today, the air quality at 7:09 AM is 453 which is quite 
hazardous.
You can ask Siri for the Air quality in most cities in the United States.
I do not know what information is available in other countries.
Last week, Portland, Oregon had the worst air quality in the world due to the 
smoke from the fires, sometimes going well over 500 and eugene Oregon hit 
almost 700..
Since California is also dealing with fires a good comparison is Los Angeles, 
which is considered unhealthy right now at 168.
Once you get away from the fires, for example, Pheonix, Arizona is moderate at 
59, New York City is good at 32.
Those last two are likely from normal air pollution.

IN Portland, they are not expecting much improvement until Thursday or Friday 
when we may finally get some rain and air flow from the west.

HTH,

Richard
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