Re: Appliance App Accessibility
Thanks for the feedback, folks. Very helpful and appreciated. Todd On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 3:19 AM Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Hi Todd, > > > > My wife and I purchased a GE Café induction range and the only way for me > to use the oven is via the GE Kitchen app or using Geneva via an Alexa > speaker. > > The induction cooktop has regular dial controls, very nice stainless steel > ones at that. > > The range we bought has two ovens, a smaller upper oven and a larger > full-featured lower oven with true European convection heat and so on. The > upper oven is meant more for simple baking, doing frozen fries, keeping > something war etc. > > I used to use the Geneva app, but found that often it was getting > confused, it would tell me I still had a certain number of minutes left on > the timer, for example, and it then asked if I wanted to clear that. I said > yes and it said it cleared the timer, but next time it would say the exact > same thing and at times it would turn the oven off once those minutes had > counted down. > > I mostly just use the app now although I wish GE would get their act > together and make it a lot better than it is. I think it only gets 1.5 > Stars on the app store, but while there is a lot of clutter on the screen > and sometimes Voiceover reads stuff that visually isn’t there, it is > useable. I can select which oven I want to use, set the mode, e.g. Bake, > Broil, Convection Bake etc. and then I can set the temperature and, if I > want to use it, the timer. > > I also discovered that the included meat probe shows up in the app if I > plug it in and I was able to set a temperature with Voiceover which once it > was reached should then turn off the oven. > > What is missing from the app at least as far as I can tell are functions > like the self-cleaning, I also don’t see a keep warm function which I > believe my wife can choose on the touch screen. > > How well this would work with multiple GE appliances such as a microwave, > range and/or dishwasher I don’t know. Like I said, it could use serious > improvements, but I can use the oven and for me that is what counts. > > One thing to remember is that before you can use the app or use Alexa > voice control you have to enable the remote connectivity. This is done by > pressing a button on the touch screen. My wife has marked that button with > a tactile dot, but you have to be careful because the touch screen is super > sensitive so often I use a towel to first find the dot and then touching it > through the towel I peal it away and touch right under the dot which is how > she has marked it. Also, when you set a timer and it finishes you get a > constant beeping on the oven which even though the oven is already turned > off you have to cancel by touching the touch screen near the bottom left > corner, but not a difficult place to also mark with a dot. > > All in all this range is amazing, we love it and I don’t regret the $4,500 > Canadian price tag. > > Unfortunately we had bought a Samsung microwave a few years ago which is > also an exhaust fan and mounted over top of the range, It’s OK, but of > course maybe at some point down the road I’d like to replace it with a GE > microwave as they offer the same type of design where it is mounted over > the range and includes your exhaust fan. > > When it comes to dishwashers I think it is Bosch all the way, they are so > incredibly quiet and well-made and even though ours is not accessible out > of the box, we mostly just use one program which is called Speed perfect > and my wife has marked the on/off button, where I have to touch for speed > perfect and then where I have to touch to start (the model we have, the 800 > series, also has touch controls all the way across the top sort of on the > inside of the recessed handle. > > The washer and dryer we have are Miele, again, not really accessible, but > any settings are done with actual tactile push buttons so with some > instructions I wrote down and, if need be, an Aira agent who can check the > display for me it’s not a problem. > > Our last major upgrade would be our fridge, I bought it about 23 years ago > and it was not an expensive one back then. Not sure yet what we’ll do > there, but I doubt we get a smart fridge since I just don’t see the point. > For me a fridge does not need to send me notifications as to what’s in it > and I don’t want to waste time scanning in stuff and entering expiry dates > and all that, it is not so hard to manage the content of your fridge the > good old fashion way. > > > > Best regards, > > Sieghard > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On Behalf Of > *Todd W > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:02 PM
RE: Appliance App Accessibility
Hi Todd, My wife and I purchased a GE Café induction range and the only way for me to use the oven is via the GE Kitchen app or using Geneva via an Alexa speaker. The induction cooktop has regular dial controls, very nice stainless steel ones at that. The range we bought has two ovens, a smaller upper oven and a larger full-featured lower oven with true European convection heat and so on. The upper oven is meant more for simple baking, doing frozen fries, keeping something war etc. I used to use the Geneva app, but found that often it was getting confused, it would tell me I still had a certain number of minutes left on the timer, for example, and it then asked if I wanted to clear that. I said yes and it said it cleared the timer, but next time it would say the exact same thing and at times it would turn the oven off once those minutes had counted down. I mostly just use the app now although I wish GE would get their act together and make it a lot better than it is. I think it only gets 1.5 Stars on the app store, but while there is a lot of clutter on the screen and sometimes Voiceover reads stuff that visually isn’t there, it is useable. I can select which oven I want to use, set the mode, e.g. Bake, Broil, Convection Bake etc. and then I can set the temperature and, if I want to use it, the timer. I also discovered that the included meat probe shows up in the app if I plug it in and I was able to set a temperature with Voiceover which once it was reached should then turn off the oven. What is missing from the app at least as far as I can tell are functions like the self-cleaning, I also don’t see a keep warm function which I believe my wife can choose on the touch screen. How well this would work with multiple GE appliances such as a microwave, range and/or dishwasher I don’t know. Like I said, it could use serious improvements, but I can use the oven and for me that is what counts. One thing to remember is that before you can use the app or use Alexa voice control you have to enable the remote connectivity. This is done by pressing a button on the touch screen. My wife has marked that button with a tactile dot, but you have to be careful because the touch screen is super sensitive so often I use a towel to first find the dot and then touching it through the towel I peal it away and touch right under the dot which is how she has marked it. Also, when you set a timer and it finishes you get a constant beeping on the oven which even though the oven is already turned off you have to cancel by touching the touch screen near the bottom left corner, but not a difficult place to also mark with a dot. All in all this range is amazing, we love it and I don’t regret the $4,500 Canadian price tag. Unfortunately we had bought a Samsung microwave a few years ago which is also an exhaust fan and mounted over top of the range, It’s OK, but of course maybe at some point down the road I’d like to replace it with a GE microwave as they offer the same type of design where it is mounted over the range and includes your exhaust fan. When it comes to dishwashers I think it is Bosch all the way, they are so incredibly quiet and well-made and even though ours is not accessible out of the box, we mostly just use one program which is called Speed perfect and my wife has marked the on/off button, where I have to touch for speed perfect and then where I have to touch to start (the model we have, the 800 series, also has touch controls all the way across the top sort of on the inside of the recessed handle. The washer and dryer we have are Miele, again, not really accessible, but any settings are done with actual tactile push buttons so with some instructions I wrote down and, if need be, an Aira agent who can check the display for me it’s not a problem. Our last major upgrade would be our fridge, I bought it about 23 years ago and it was not an expensive one back then. Not sure yet what we’ll do there, but I doubt we get a smart fridge since I just don’t see the point. For me a fridge does not need to send me notifications as to what’s in it and I don’t want to waste time scanning in stuff and entering expiry dates and all that, it is not so hard to manage the content of your fridge the good old fashion way. Best regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Todd W Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Appliance App Accessibility Does anyone have experience with the GE Geneva or Whirlpool app for oven or microwave control? If so what is your opinion of the app? Trying to choose smart appliances for a new house. Thanks, Todd -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself
RE: Appliance App Accessibility
Hello Todd, We purchased this microwave last December2018 and love it. It comes with Braille embossed on the touch panel and no turn-table. It is a dream to clean. Got it on Amazon. It has gone up in price about $20. It has Braille for restaurant use by customers, maybe like a convenience store. Instead of a turn-table, the microwave tube rotates under the bottom of the machine. It cooks more evenly. <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GSPVHS/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8=1> Panasonic Countertop Commercial Microwave Oven NE-1054F Stainless Steel with 10 Programmable Memory and Touch Screen Control, 0.8 Cu. Ft, 1000W Sold by: Amazon.com Services, Inc From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Todd W Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 7:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Appliance App Accessibility Does anyone have experience with the GE Geneva or Whirlpool app for oven or microwave control? If so what is your opinion of the app? Trying to choose smart appliances for a new house. Thanks, Todd -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAKKbiXx7MgryP-Xbi7ZSp-v3UBOn8ugrQFNFaLLKcMKmKSJxfA%40mail.gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAKKbiXx7MgryP-Xbi7ZSp-v3UBOn8ugrQFNFaLLKcMKmKSJxfA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001001d599d4%24a2e327d0%24e8a97770%24%40gmail.com.
Appliance App Accessibility
Does anyone have experience with the GE Geneva or Whirlpool app for oven or microwave control? If so what is your opinion of the app? Trying to choose smart appliances for a new house. Thanks, Todd -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAKKbiXx7MgryP-Xbi7ZSp-v3UBOn8ugrQFNFaLLKcMKmKSJxfA%40mail.gmail.com.
