Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Arlene]

 let us know how everything goes for you.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Fanus Buys 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2019 6:19 AM
  Subject: RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino


  Hello Arlene

  Thanks so much. I shall test the trial but I am sure I shall be happy.

  Regards

  Fanus

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
  Sent: Saturday, 02 November 2019 17:18
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

   

  You can transfer music from pc to phone. If you wanted too, before you 
purchase imazing you can experience it with it's trial. It works really well. 
If you need help, just ask.

   

  Arlene and Wayne

   

   

- Original Message - 

From: Fanus Buys 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, November 01, 2019 3:32 AM

Subject: RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

Hello Arlene

Thanks very much for the info. The one final thing that I need before 
buying is whether one can transfer music from pc to iphone?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Arlene
Sent: Friday, 01 November 2019 04:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

with further reading documentation, imazing does work with ipods. However 
you will need too install the apple drivers or you could install itunes and 
itunes would install the drivers. If you're just going to install apple drivers 
this is the apple packages you need to install:

apple applications support

aif you're running 64 bit operating system it would be

apple application support 64

apple mobile device 64

bonjur 64

Bonjur gives you the wifi support.

I think that's all you would need to install. 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Fanus Buys 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:32 AM

  Subject: RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

   

  I do not quite understand you. An Apple iPod is an Apple device, so if 
Imazing can transfer music from a pc to an iPhone the same would be true for an 
iPod. Or do I totally misunderstand the whole concept of Imazing? So my 
question is if one can transfer music from pc to iPhone or is it only possible 
to transfer music from iPhone to pc?

  Kind regards

  Fanus

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Arlene
  Sent: Tuesday, 29 October 2019 20:29
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
      Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

   

  We can't help you with working imze with an ipod since we've never had an 
ipod. Hopefully someone has had experience with an ipod and imzing.

- Original Message - 

From: Fanus Buys 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:43 AM

        Subject: RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

Hello Arlene

How does one copy music from PC to iPod using Imazing and where is the 
music then stored on the iPod?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Monday, 28 October 2019 06:17
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
        Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

No you can't, and that's what we like about imazing.

  - Original Message - 

  From: Malcolm Parfitt 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:25 AM

      Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

   

  No, you cannot purchase music, it is a program to transfer content to 
an Apple device.

  Sent from my iPhone

   

  On 27 Oct 2019, at 14:20, richr...@gmail.com wrote:

 

You cannot purchase music with it can you?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: W

RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Arlene

Thanks so much. I shall test the trial but I am sure I shall be happy.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Saturday, 02 November 2019 17:18
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

You can transfer music from pc to phone. If you wanted too, before you purchase 
imazing you can experience it with it's trial. It works really well. If you 
need help, just ask.

 

Arlene and Wayne

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Fanus Buys <mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, November 01, 2019 3:32 AM

Subject: RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

Hello Arlene

Thanks very much for the info. The one final thing that I need before buying is 
whether one can transfer music from pc to iphone?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Friday, 01 November 2019 04:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

with further reading documentation, imazing does work with ipods. However you 
will need too install the apple drivers or you could install itunes and itunes 
would install the drivers. If you're just going to install apple drivers this 
is the apple packages you need to install:

apple applications support

aif you're running 64 bit operating system it would be

apple application support 64

apple mobile device 64

bonjur 64

Bonjur gives you the wifi support.

I think that's all you would need to install. 

- Original Message - 

From: Fanus Buys <mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:32 AM

Subject: RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

I do not quite understand you. An Apple iPod is an Apple device, so if Imazing 
can transfer music from a pc to an iPhone the same would be true for an iPod. 
Or do I totally misunderstand the whole concept of Imazing? So my question is 
if one can transfer music from pc to iPhone or is it only possible to transfer 
music from iPhone to pc?

Kind regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Tuesday, 29 October 2019 20:29
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

We can't help you with working imze with an ipod since we've never had an ipod. 
Hopefully someone has had experience with an ipod and imzing.

- Original Message - 

From: Fanus Buys <mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:43 AM

Subject: RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

Hello Arlene

How does one copy music from PC to iPod using Imazing and where is the music 
then stored on the iPod?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Monday, 28 October 2019 06:17
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

No you can't, and that's what we like about imazing.

- Original Message - 

From: Malcolm Parfitt <mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:25 AM

Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

No, you cannot purchase music, it is a program to transfer content to an Apple 
device.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On 27 Oct 2019, at 14:20, richr...@gmail.com wrote:

 

You cannot purchase music with it can you?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it.

Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in my 
experience.

I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives to ITunes 
but some people prefer to use these packages.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner  wrote:

 Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned having success 
with a program called Imazing. 

I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing has a free 
trial.

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress fo

Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Arlene]

You can transfer music from pc to phone. If you wanted too, before you purchase 
imazing you can experience it with it's trial. It works really well. If you 
need help, just ask.

Arlene and Wayne


  - Original Message - 
  From: Fanus Buys 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 01, 2019 3:32 AM
  Subject: RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino


  Hello Arlene

  Thanks very much for the info. The one final thing that I need before buying 
is whether one can transfer music from pc to iphone?

  Regards

  Fanus

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
  Sent: Friday, 01 November 2019 04:30
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

   

  with further reading documentation, imazing does work with ipods. However you 
will need too install the apple drivers or you could install itunes and itunes 
would install the drivers. If you're just going to install apple drivers this 
is the apple packages you need to install:

  apple applications support

  aif you're running 64 bit operating system it would be

  apple application support 64

  apple mobile device 64

  bonjur 64

  Bonjur gives you the wifi support.

  I think that's all you would need to install. 

- Original Message - 

From: Fanus Buys 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:32 AM

Subject: RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

I do not quite understand you. An Apple iPod is an Apple device, so if 
Imazing can transfer music from a pc to an iPhone the same would be true for an 
iPod. Or do I totally misunderstand the whole concept of Imazing? So my 
question is if one can transfer music from pc to iPhone or is it only possible 
to transfer music from iPhone to pc?

Kind regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Arlene
Sent: Tuesday, 29 October 2019 20:29
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

We can't help you with working imze with an ipod since we've never had an 
ipod. Hopefully someone has had experience with an ipod and imzing.

  - Original Message - 

  From: Fanus Buys 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:43 AM

  Subject: RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

   

  Hello Arlene

  How does one copy music from PC to iPod using Imazing and where is the 
music then stored on the iPod?

  Regards

  Fanus

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Arlene
  Sent: Monday, 28 October 2019 06:17
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
      Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

   

  No you can't, and that's what we like about imazing.

- Original Message - 

From: Malcolm Parfitt 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:25 AM

        Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

No, you cannot purchase music, it is a program to transfer content to 
an Apple device.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On 27 Oct 2019, at 14:20, richr...@gmail.com wrote:

   

  You cannot purchase music with it can you?

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of Malcolm Parfitt
  Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:18 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
          Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

  I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it.

  Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in 
my experience.

  I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives 
to ITunes but some people prefer to use these packages.

  Sent from my iPhone

   

On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner 
 wrote:

 Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned 
having success with a program called Imazing. 

I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing 
has a free trial.

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
with it." 

-- fro

RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Arlene

Thanks very much for the info. The one final thing that I need before buying is 
whether one can transfer music from pc to iphone?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Friday, 01 November 2019 04:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

with further reading documentation, imazing does work with ipods. However you 
will need too install the apple drivers or you could install itunes and itunes 
would install the drivers. If you're just going to install apple drivers this 
is the apple packages you need to install:

apple applications support

aif you're running 64 bit operating system it would be

apple application support 64

apple mobile device 64

bonjur 64

Bonjur gives you the wifi support.

I think that's all you would need to install. 

- Original Message - 

From: Fanus Buys <mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:32 AM

Subject: RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

I do not quite understand you. An Apple iPod is an Apple device, so if Imazing 
can transfer music from a pc to an iPhone the same would be true for an iPod. 
Or do I totally misunderstand the whole concept of Imazing? So my question is 
if one can transfer music from pc to iPhone or is it only possible to transfer 
music from iPhone to pc?

Kind regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Tuesday, 29 October 2019 20:29
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

We can't help you with working imze with an ipod since we've never had an ipod. 
Hopefully someone has had experience with an ipod and imzing.

- Original Message - 

From: Fanus Buys <mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:43 AM

Subject: RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

Hello Arlene

How does one copy music from PC to iPod using Imazing and where is the music 
then stored on the iPod?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Monday, 28 October 2019 06:17
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

No you can't, and that's what we like about imazing.

- Original Message - 

From: Malcolm Parfitt <mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:25 AM

Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

No, you cannot purchase music, it is a program to transfer content to an Apple 
device.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On 27 Oct 2019, at 14:20, richr...@gmail.com wrote:

 

You cannot purchase music with it can you?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it.

Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in my 
experience.

I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives to ITunes 
but some people prefer to use these packages.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner  wrote:

 Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned having success 
with a program called Imazing. 

I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing has a free 
trial.

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Richard

I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year ago but it 
was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.

Regards

Fanus

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, 25 October 2019 23:12
To: ViPone list
Subject: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative 
for Windows & Mac | Softorino

People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you might want 
to check it out.






https://softorino.com/waltr/# <https://softorino.com/waltr/> 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who ar

Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Arlene]

with further reading documentation, imazing does work with ipods. However you 
will need too install the apple drivers or you could install itunes and itunes 
would install the drivers. If you're just going to install apple drivers this 
is the apple packages you need to install:
apple applications support
aif you're running 64 bit operating system it would be
apple application support 64
apple mobile device 64
bonjur 64
Bonjur gives you the wifi support.
I think that's all you would need to install. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Fanus Buys 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:32 AM
  Subject: RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino


  I do not quite understand you. An Apple iPod is an Apple device, so if 
Imazing can transfer music from a pc to an iPhone the same would be true for an 
iPod. Or do I totally misunderstand the whole concept of Imazing? So my 
question is if one can transfer music from pc to iPhone or is it only possible 
to transfer music from iPhone to pc?

  Kind regards

  Fanus

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
  Sent: Tuesday, 29 October 2019 20:29
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

   

  We can't help you with working imze with an ipod since we've never had an 
ipod. Hopefully someone has had experience with an ipod and imzing.

- Original Message - 

From: Fanus Buys 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:43 AM

Subject: RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

Hello Arlene

How does one copy music from PC to iPod using Imazing and where is the 
music then stored on the iPod?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Arlene
Sent: Monday, 28 October 2019 06:17
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

No you can't, and that's what we like about imazing.

  - Original Message - 

  From: Malcolm Parfitt 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:25 AM

  Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

   

  No, you cannot purchase music, it is a program to transfer content to an 
Apple device.

  Sent from my iPhone

   

  On 27 Oct 2019, at 14:20, richr...@gmail.com wrote:

 

You cannot purchase music with it can you?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it.

Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in my 
experience.

I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives 
to ITunes but some people prefer to use these packages.

Sent from my iPhone





  On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner 
 wrote:

   Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned 
having success with a program called Imazing. 

  I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing 
has a free trial.

  Richard

  "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
with it." 

  -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by 
Jane Wagner





On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Fanus Buys  
wrote:

 

Hello Richard

I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year 
ago but it was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.

Regards

Fanus

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, 25 October 2019 23:12
To: ViPone list
    Subject: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you 
might want to check it out.







https://softorino.com/waltr/#

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, 
by Jane W

RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Fanus Buys]

I do not quite understand you. An Apple iPod is an Apple device, so if Imazing 
can transfer music from a pc to an iPhone the same would be true for an iPod. 
Or do I totally misunderstand the whole concept of Imazing? So my question is 
if one can transfer music from pc to iPhone or is it only possible to transfer 
music from iPhone to pc?

Kind regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Tuesday, 29 October 2019 20:29
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

We can't help you with working imze with an ipod since we've never had an ipod. 
Hopefully someone has had experience with an ipod and imzing.

- Original Message - 

From: Fanus Buys <mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:43 AM

Subject: RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

Hello Arlene

How does one copy music from PC to iPod using Imazing and where is the music 
then stored on the iPod?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Monday, 28 October 2019 06:17
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

No you can't, and that's what we like about imazing.

- Original Message - 

From: Malcolm Parfitt <mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:25 AM

Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

No, you cannot purchase music, it is a program to transfer content to an Apple 
device.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On 27 Oct 2019, at 14:20, richr...@gmail.com wrote:

 

You cannot purchase music with it can you?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it.

Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in my 
experience.

I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives to ITunes 
but some people prefer to use these packages.

Sent from my iPhone





On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner  wrote:

 Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned having success 
with a program called Imazing. 

I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing has a free 
trial.

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner





On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Richard

I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year ago but it 
was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.

Regards

Fanus

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Sent: Friday, 25 October 2019 23:12
To: ViPone list
Subject: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative 
for Windows & Mac | Softorino

People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you might want 
to check it out.







https://softorino.com/waltr/# <https://softorino.com/waltr/> 

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Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Arlene]

We can't help you with working imze with an ipod since we've never had an ipod. 
Hopefully someone has had experience with an ipod and imzing.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Fanus Buys 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:43 AM
  Subject: RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino


  Hello Arlene

  How does one copy music from PC to iPod using Imazing and where is the music 
then stored on the iPod?

  Regards

  Fanus

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
  Sent: Monday, 28 October 2019 06:17
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

   

  No you can't, and that's what we like about imazing.

- Original Message - 

From: Malcolm Parfitt 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:25 AM

Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

No, you cannot purchase music, it is a program to transfer content to an 
Apple device.

Sent from my iPhone





On 27 Oct 2019, at 14:20, richr...@gmail.com wrote:

   

  You cannot purchase music with it can you?

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
  Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:18 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

  I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it.

  Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in my 
experience.

  I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives to 
ITunes but some people prefer to use these packages.

  Sent from my iPhone






On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner  
wrote:

 Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned having 
success with a program called Imazing. 

I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing has 
a free trial.

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by 
Jane Wagner






  On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

   

  Hello Richard

  I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year ago 
but it was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.

  Regards

  Fanus

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner
  Sent: Friday, 25 October 2019 23:12
  To: ViPone list
      Subject: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

  People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you 
might want to check it out.

  






  https://softorino.com/waltr/#

  Richard

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Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino, for imzing

[Arlene]

Richard, out of the 3 screen readers, window-eyes and jaws are the best. With 
nvda it's hard to access some things.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 10:36 PM
  Subject: RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino, for imzing


  Arlene,

  Which screen reader do you find works the best with imazing?

   

  Thanks,

   

  Richard

   

   Live long and prosper

   

   

  Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
  Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 8:34 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino, for imzing

   

  Here's where you get imazing from, and all the information you need from the 
web site, which I'm copying some of the information from their site into this 
message. Here's the web site address first:

  https://imazing.com/download
  and some of the information of what you can do with imzing with some reviews.

  iMazing iMazing
  Features
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  Other Data
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  Apps
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  Backup Extractor
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  Transfer Music to your Mac or PC
  Simply move your songs from your iPhone to your computer. That's impossible 
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  iTunes but easy with iMazing. Select music on your iOS device. Copy it to a 
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  on your computer, or to your iTunes library. Easy! You also save all the 
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  data, like playlists, track names, play counts and ratings.
  Transfer songs to any iOS device
  Instantly add tracks and albums from any Mac or Windows computer. Unlike 
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  or iPod touch. No more risky syncs or frustration.
  Supported formats:
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  is no risk of duplicates. Be free to mix and match your jazz, rock and 
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  tracks, it's all up to you.
  Attention to details
  iMazing transfers more than files; it includes all the extras that make your 
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  from iTunes to your iPhone. Or, export it back from an iPod to iTunes.
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  What works for music, works for your other media files. Conveniently manage 
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  movies, TV shows, and home videos. Whether it's for your own iPhone or the 
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RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Richard Turner]

I’ve started a new thread, called: iMazing was about WLTR2
Please reply under that new thread.  I copied this thread and pasted it into 
that new message.  This has long since stopped being related to the thread 
subject.

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Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Gerardo Corripio]

For those of you guys trying the Amazing program, can you for instance, have 
the music ready in Playlists like with ITunes, and transfer it that way to the 
phone, without you having to through the iPhone’s music app, create these 
playlists?

Gera
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> El 29 oct 2019, a la(s) 5:43 a. m., Fanus Buys  
> escribió:
> 
> 
> Hello Arlene
> How does one copy music from PC to iPod using Imazing and where is the music 
> then stored on the iPod?
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Arlene
> Sent: Monday, 28 October 2019 06:17
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
> Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino
>  
> No you can't, and that's what we like about imazing.
> - Original Message -
> From: Malcolm Parfitt
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:25 AM
> Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
> Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino
>  
> No, you cannot purchase music, it is a program to transfer content to an 
> Apple device.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On 27 Oct 2019, at 14:20, richr...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> You cannot purchase music with it can you?
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
> Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino
> I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it.
> Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in my 
> experience.
> I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives to 
> ITunes but some people prefer to use these packages.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
>  Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned having 
> success with a program called Imazing.
> I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing has a free 
> trial.
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
> Wagner
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Richard
> I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year ago but it 
> was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.
> Regards
> Fanus
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, 25 October 2019 23:12
> To: ViPone list
> Subject: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative 
> for Windows & Mac | Softorino
> People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you might 
> want to check it out.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> https://softorino.com/waltr/#
> Richard
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RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Arlene

How does one copy music from PC to iPod using Imazing and where is the music 
then stored on the iPod?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Monday, 28 October 2019 06:17
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

No you can't, and that's what we like about imazing.

- Original Message - 

From: Malcolm Parfitt <mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:25 AM

Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

No, you cannot purchase music, it is a program to transfer content to an Apple 
device.

Sent from my iPhone





On 27 Oct 2019, at 14:20, richr...@gmail.com wrote:

 

You cannot purchase music with it can you?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it.

Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in my 
experience.

I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives to ITunes 
but some people prefer to use these packages.

Sent from my iPhone






On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner  wrote:

 Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned having success 
with a program called Imazing. 

I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing has a free 
trial.

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner






On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Richard

I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year ago but it 
was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.

Regards

Fanus

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, 25 October 2019 23:12
To: ViPone list
Subject: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative 
for Windows & Mac | Softorino

People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you might want 
to check it out.








https://softorino.com/waltr/# <https://softorino.com/waltr/> 

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RE: Imazing was: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard

Thanks so much. 

Regards

Fanus

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Tuesday, 29 October 2019 04:00
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Subject: Re: Imazing was: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless 
iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 


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On Oct 28, 2019, at 7:41 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Richard

Thanks for the link. I installed the trial and I can navigate the menus with 
JAWS but I have not yet connected my iPod Touch. Although they say one can 
transfer from pc to iDevice they only describe how to do it from iDevice to PC 
but I can not find an explanation how to put music on the iDevice from the pc. 
Also, when I try to look what the price is, they do not show a decimal point in 
the amount so when I convert that amount which they give in South African rand 
to us Dollar it comes to $4300 which I can not believe to be so much for the 
software, so can anyone give the US dollar price so that I can convert it 
myself. If I put a decimal point before the second last digit then it is 699.99 
rand which is about 43 US dollar which is quite cheap if the software can do 
what they claim.

Regards

Fanus

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, 28 October 2019 14:49
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Imazing was: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless 
iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

HERE is the link to the Imazing web site. This is not a recommendation since I 
have not figured out how to use it as it does not seem that screen reader 
friendly, and no one has given any specifics other than they can use it. 
Everything you could want to know about it is explained on their web site other 
than how to use it with a screen reader. 

https://imazing.com/ 
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RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino, for imzing

[Richard Turner]

Arlene,
Which screen reader do you find works the best with imazing?

Thanks,

Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 8:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino, for imzing

Here's where you get imazing from, and all the information you need from the 
web site, which I'm copying some of the information from their site into this 
message. Here's the web site address first:
https://imazing.com/download<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimazing.com%2Fdownload=02%7C01%7C%7C024af59b18c84e7e7bc708d75c20e46d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637079168654118397=zUs9FQrO%2FOhbBXphtyq6nhfiBmRABw8iqYZfNBNcYl0%3D=0>
and some of the information of what you can do with imzing with some reviews.
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Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino, for imzing

[Arlene]

ALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino


  sounds good, I really wish someone would provide details of where to get it 
from please. 

  Simon 


- Original Message - 
From: Arlene 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 4:16 AM
    Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino


No you can't, and that's what we like about imazing.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Malcolm Parfitt 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:25 AM
      Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino


  No, you cannot purchase music, it is a program to transfer content to an 
Apple device.


  Sent from my iPhone


On 27 Oct 2019, at 14:20, richr...@gmail.com wrote:


 
You cannot purchase music with it can you?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
        Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino


I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it.


Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in my 
experience.


I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives 
to ITunes but some people prefer to use these packages.

Sent from my iPhone





  On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner 
 wrote:

   Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned 
having success with a program called Imazing. 

  I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing 
has a free trial.




  Richard

  "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
with it." 

  -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by 
Jane Wagner






On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Fanus Buys  
wrote:

 

Hello Richard

I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year 
ago but it was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.

Regards

Fanus



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Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, 25 October 2019 23:12
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            Subject: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino


People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you 
might want to check it out.







https://softorino.com/waltr/#




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Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Arlene]

I've got to make a corection here, I got a littled mixed up with what I was 
telling in my message. here's our experience, itunes works well enough, but 
it's a little clunky. It has apple things that you might not want to deal with. 
this  is using a computer using windows 7. the alternative software Waltr2 we 
don't know anything about because using the latest version with jaws, window 
eyes and nvda, we couldn't get access to it, but with imazing it works quite 
well using all the screen readers. We like using it as an alternative to 
itunes. It will backup and restore your devices. you could even do an encrypted 
backup.Since it's not all bloted up like itunes it's very easy to select and do 
what you want to get done.At this time, this is our experience using the unpaid 
version. It might be worth checking out.

Arlene and Wayne

  - Original Message - 
  From: Fanus Buys 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 1:29 AM
  Subject: RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino


  Hello Richard and Arlene

  I am a bit confused now. I thought it is an alternative to iTunes and now 
Arlene says it works with iTunes. Secondly, can it only transfer from pc to 
device or vise versa as well?

  Regards

  Fanus

   

   

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Arlene
  Sent: Monday, 28 October 2019 06:19
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

   

  Imazing is easy to use with itunes.

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 10:57 AM

Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

I just tried out the free trial. 

It works well for transferring from your PC to your device.

That is all it does.

You cannot use this as an alternative backup system. It is a one-way 
program.

So, if that is all you need, it works rather easily.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
Wagner

 





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   No, you cannot purchase music, it is a program to transfer content to 
an Apple device.

  Sent from my iPhone





  On 27 Oct 2019, at 14:20, richr...@gmail.com wrote:

 

You cannot purchase music with it can you?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
        Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it.

Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in my 
experience.

I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives 
to ITunes but some people prefer to use these packages.

Sent from my iPhone






  On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner 
 wrote:

   Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned 
having success with a program called Imazing. 

  I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing 
has a free trial.

  Richard

  "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
with it." 

  -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by 
Jane Wagner






On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Fanus Buys  
wrote:

 

Hello Richard

I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year 
ago but it was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.

Regards

Fanus

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Sent: Friday, 25 October 2019 23:12
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        Subject: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you 
might want to check it out.








https://softorino.com/waltr/#

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Re: Imazing was: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

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Here you go with the imazing web site prices in the US.
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On Oct 28, 2019, at 7:41 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:


Hello Richard
Thanks for the link. I installed the trial and I can navigate the menus with 
JAWS but I have not yet connected my iPod Touch. Although they say one can 
transfer from pc to iDevice they only describe how to do it from iDevice to PC 
but I can not find an explanation how to put music on the iDevice from the pc. 
Also, when I try to look what the price is, they do not show a decimal point in 
the amount so when I convert that amount which they give in South African rand 
to us Dollar it comes to $4300 which I can not believe to be so much for the 
software, so can anyone give the US dollar price so that I can convert it 
myself. If I put a decimal point before the second last digit then it is 699.99 
rand which is about 43 US dollar which is quite cheap if the software can do 
what they claim.
Regards
Fanus

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, 28 October 2019 14:49
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Imazing was: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless 
iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

HERE is the link to the Imazing web site. This is not a recommendation since I 
have not figured out how to use it as it does not seem that screen reader 
friendly, and no one has given any specifics other than they can use it. 
Everything you could want to know about it is explained on their web site other 
than how to use it with a screen reader.
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[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard

Thanks for the link. I installed the trial and I can navigate the menus with 
JAWS but I have not yet connected my iPod Touch. Although they say one can 
transfer from pc to iDevice they only describe how to do it from iDevice to PC 
but I can not find an explanation how to put music on the iDevice from the pc. 
Also, when I try to look what the price is, they do not show a decimal point in 
the amount so when I convert that amount which they give in South African rand 
to us Dollar it comes to $4300 which I can not believe to be so much for the 
software, so can anyone give the US dollar price so that I can convert it 
myself. If I put a decimal point before the second last digit then it is 699.99 
rand which is about 43 US dollar which is quite cheap if the software can do 
what they claim.

Regards

Fanus

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, 28 October 2019 14:49
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Imazing was: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless 
iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

HERE is the link to the Imazing web site. This is not a recommendation since I 
have not figured out how to use it as it does not seem that screen reader 
friendly, and no one has given any specifics other than they can use it. 
Everything you could want to know about it is explained on their web site other 
than how to use it with a screen reader. 

https://imazing.com/ <https://imazing.com/>  

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RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Richard Turner]

OK, iMazing and WLTR2 are both completely independent of iTunes.
In fact, where Imazing is concerned, you cannot force it to install files in a 
specific app as far as I can tell.
So, itunes file sharing is better for that since you can get it to work.



Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Russ 
Kiehne
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 6:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

Does imazing support itunes file sharing?

From: goshawk on horseback
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 1:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

sounds good, I really wish someone would provide details of where to get it 
from please.

Simon


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From: Arlene
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 4:16 AM
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

No you can't, and that's what we like about imazing.
- Original Message -
From: Malcolm Parfitt
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

No, you cannot purchase music, it is a program to transfer content to an Apple 
device.
Sent from my iPhone


On 27 Oct 2019, at 14:20, richr...@gmail.com<mailto:richr...@gmail.com> wrote:

You cannot purchase music with it can you?
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino
I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it.
Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in my 
experience.
I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives to ITunes 
but some people prefer to use these packages.
Sent from my iPhone



On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned having success 
with a program called Imazing.
I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing has a free 
trial.
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner



On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Fanus Buys 
mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello Richard
I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year ago but it 
was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.
Regards
Fanus
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, 25 October 2019 23:12
To: ViPone list
Subject: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative 
for Windows & Mac | Softorino
People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you might want 
to check it out.





https://softorino.com/waltr/#<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsoftorino.com%2Fwaltr%2F%23=02%7C01%7C%7Ccf72bb8960fd40ea9d9708d75baae23e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637078661804955778=0JtBDlAQwJu8769nMwLC4jjQSiWnmoQWUr27PW1FOHo%3D=0>
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Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Russ Kiehne]

Does imazing support itunes file sharing?

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Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
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sounds good, I really wish someone would provide details of where to get it 
from please. 

Simon 


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  From: Arlene 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 4:16 AM
  Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

  No you can't, and that's what we like about imazing.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

No, you cannot purchase music, it is a program to transfer content to an 
Apple device.


Sent from my iPhone


  On 27 Oct 2019, at 14:20, richr...@gmail.com wrote:


   
  You cannot purchase music with it can you?


  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
  Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:18 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino


  I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it.


  Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in my 
experience.


  I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives to 
ITunes but some people prefer to use these packages.

  Sent from my iPhone





On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner  
wrote:

 Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned having 
success with a program called Imazing. 

I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing has 
a free trial.




Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by 
Jane Wagner






  On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

   

  Hello Richard

  I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year ago 
but it was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.

  Regards

  Fanus



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  Sent: Friday, 25 October 2019 23:12
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      Subject: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino


  People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you 
might want to check it out.

  





  https://softorino.com/waltr/#




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Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Russ Kiehne]

Does waltr2 support itunes file sharing?

From: Malcolm Parfitt 
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 7:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it. 

Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in my 
experience.

I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives to ITunes 
but some people prefer to use these packages.


Sent from my iPhone


  On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner  wrote:


   Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned having 
success with a program called Imazing. 
  I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing has a free 
trial.





  Richard
  "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
  -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
Wagner



On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:


 
Hello Richard

I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year ago but 
it was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

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Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, 25 October 2019 23:12
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    Subject: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you might 
want to check it out.






https://softorino.com/waltr/#

 

 

 

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Imazing was: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Richard Turner]

HERE is the link to the Imazing web site. This is not a recommendation since I 
have not figured out how to use it as it does not seem that screen reader 
friendly, and no one has given any specifics other than they can use it. 
Everything you could want to know about it is explained on their web site other 
than how to use it with a screen reader.
https://imazing.com/

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Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[goshawk on horseback]

sounds good, I really wish someone would provide details of where to get it 
from please. 

Simon 


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  From: Arlene 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 4:16 AM
  Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino


  No you can't, and that's what we like about imazing.
- Original Message - 
From: Malcolm Parfitt 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino


No, you cannot purchase music, it is a program to transfer content to an 
Apple device.


Sent from my iPhone


  On 27 Oct 2019, at 14:20, richr...@gmail.com wrote:


   
  You cannot purchase music with it can you?


  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
  Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:18 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino


  I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it.


  Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in my 
experience.


  I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives to 
ITunes but some people prefer to use these packages.

  Sent from my iPhone





On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner  
wrote:

 Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned having 
success with a program called Imazing. 

I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing has 
a free trial.




Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by 
Jane Wagner






  On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

   

  Hello Richard

  I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year ago 
but it was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.

  Regards

  Fanus



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner
  Sent: Friday, 25 October 2019 23:12
  To: ViPone list
          Subject: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino


  People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you 
might want to check it out.

  





  https://softorino.com/waltr/#




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Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[goshawk on horseback]

also using win7, and had the same lack of success with both window-eyes and 
nvda. 

Simon 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Arlene 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 4:14 AM
  Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino


  We're using windows 7 and downloaded the demo, and we couldn't access 
anything in Waltr in 3 screen readers, window-eyes, jaws and nvda. however in 
imazing  is pretty good.


- Original Message - 
From: Malcolm Parfitt 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino


I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it. 


Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in my 
experience.


I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives to 
ITunes but some people prefer to use these packages.


Sent from my iPhone


  On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner  
wrote:


   Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned having 
success with a program called Imazing. 
  I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing has a 
free trial.







  Richard
  "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it." 
  -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
Wagner




On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:


 
Hello Richard

I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year ago 
but it was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.

Regards

Fanus



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, 25 October 2019 23:12
To: ViPone list
        Subject: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino


People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you 
might want to check it out.






https://softorino.com/waltr/#




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RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Malcolm

Which screen reader do you use on the pc. I use jaws and waltr2 does not “see” 
my iPod touch.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, 27 October 2019 16:18
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it.

 

Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in my 
experience.

 

I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives to ITunes 
but some people prefer to use these packages.

Sent from my iPhone





On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner  wrote:

 Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned having success 
with a program called Imazing. 

I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing has a free 
trial.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

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On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Richard

I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year ago but it 
was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, 25 October 2019 23:12
To: ViPone list
Subject: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative 
for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you might want 
to check it out.







https://softorino.com/waltr/#

 

 

 

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RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard

Thanks much. Do you know the price? Can one transfer from device to pc?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, 27 October 2019 17:57
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

I just tried out the free trial. 

It works well for transferring from your PC to your device.

That is all it does.

You cannot use this as an alternative backup system. It is a one-way program.

So, if that is all you need, it works rather easily.

 

 

 

Richard

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On Oct 27, 2019, at 7:25 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

 No, you cannot purchase music, it is a program to transfer content to an 
Apple device.

Sent from my iPhone





On 27 Oct 2019, at 14:20, richr...@gmail.com wrote:

 

You cannot purchase music with it can you?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it.

 

Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in my 
experience.

 

I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives to ITunes 
but some people prefer to use these packages.

Sent from my iPhone






On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner  wrote:

 Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned having success 
with a program called Imazing. 

I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing has a free 
trial.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 






On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Richard

I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year ago but it 
was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, 25 October 2019 23:12
To: ViPone list
Subject: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative 
for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you might want 
to check it out.








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RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard and Arlene

I am a bit confused now. I thought it is an alternative to iTunes and now 
Arlene says it works with iTunes. Secondly, can it only transfer from pc to 
device or vise versa as well?

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Monday, 28 October 2019 06:19
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

Imazing is easy to use with itunes.

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 10:57 AM

Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

I just tried out the free trial. 

It works well for transferring from your PC to your device.

That is all it does.

You cannot use this as an alternative backup system. It is a one-way program.

So, if that is all you need, it works rather easily.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 





On Oct 27, 2019, at 7:25 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

 No, you cannot purchase music, it is a program to transfer content to an 
Apple device.

Sent from my iPhone





On 27 Oct 2019, at 14:20, richr...@gmail.com wrote:

 

You cannot purchase music with it can you?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it.

Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in my 
experience.

I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives to ITunes 
but some people prefer to use these packages.

Sent from my iPhone






On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner  wrote:

 Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned having success 
with a program called Imazing. 

I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing has a free 
trial.

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner






On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Richard

I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year ago but it 
was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.

Regards

Fanus

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, 25 October 2019 23:12
To: ViPone list
Subject: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative 
for Windows & Mac | Softorino

People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you might want 
to check it out.








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[Arlene]

Imazing is easy to use with itunes.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 10:57 AM
  Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino


  I just tried out the free trial. 
  It works well for transferring from your PC to your device.
  That is all it does.
  You cannot use this as an alternative backup system. It is a one-way program.
  So, if that is all you need, it works rather easily.







  Richard
  "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
  -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
Wagner




On Oct 27, 2019, at 7:25 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
wrote:


 No, you cannot purchase music, it is a program to transfer content to an 
Apple device.


Sent from my iPhone


  On 27 Oct 2019, at 14:20, richr...@gmail.com wrote:


   
  You cannot purchase music with it can you?



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
  Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:18 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino



  I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it.



  Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in my 
experience.



  I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives to 
ITunes but some people prefer to use these packages.

  Sent from my iPhone





On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner  
wrote:

 Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned having 
success with a program called Imazing. 

I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing has 
a free trial.







Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by 
Jane Wagner







  On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

   

  Hello Richard

  I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year ago 
but it was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.

  Regards

  Fanus





  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner
  Sent: Friday, 25 October 2019 23:12
  To: ViPone list
      Subject: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino



  People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you 
might want to check it out.

  





  https://softorino.com/waltr/#







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Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Arlene]

No you can't, and that's what we like about imazing.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Malcolm Parfitt 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:25 AM
  Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino


  No, you cannot purchase music, it is a program to transfer content to an 
Apple device.


  Sent from my iPhone


On 27 Oct 2019, at 14:20, richr...@gmail.com wrote:



You cannot purchase music with it can you?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino



I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it.



Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in my 
experience.



I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives to 
ITunes but some people prefer to use these packages.

Sent from my iPhone





  On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner  
wrote:

   Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned having 
success with a program called Imazing. 

  I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing has a 
free trial.







  Richard

  "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it." 

  -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
Wagner







On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

 

Hello Richard

I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year ago 
but it was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.

Regards

Fanus





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, 25 October 2019 23:12
To: ViPone list
        Subject: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino



People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you 
might want to check it out.







https://softorino.com/waltr/#







Richard

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Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Arlene]

We're using windows 7 and downloaded the demo, and we couldn't access anything 
in Waltr in 3 screen readers, window-eyes, jaws and nvda. however in imazing  
is pretty good.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Malcolm Parfitt 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:17 AM
  Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino


  I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it.


  Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in my 
experience.


  I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives to 
ITunes but some people prefer to use these packages.


  Sent from my iPhone


On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner  
wrote:


 Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned having 
success with a program called Imazing. 
I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing has a 
free trial.







Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
Wagner




  On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:


   
  Hello Richard

  I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year ago but 
it was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.

  Regards

  Fanus





  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner
  Sent: Friday, 25 October 2019 23:12
  To: ViPone list
  Subject: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino



  People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you might 
want to check it out.

  




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Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Richard Turner]

I just tried out the free trial.
It works well for transferring from your PC to your device.
That is all it does.
You cannot use this as an alternative backup system. It is a one-way program.
So, if that is all you need, it works rather easily.




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On Oct 27, 2019, at 7:25 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

 No, you cannot purchase music, it is a program to transfer content to an 
Apple device.

Sent from my iPhone

On 27 Oct 2019, at 14:20, richr...@gmail.com wrote:


You cannot purchase music with it can you?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it.

Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in my 
experience.

I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives to ITunes 
but some people prefer to use these packages.
Sent from my iPhone


On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned having success 
with a program called Imazing.
I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing has a free 
trial.



Richard
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On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Fanus Buys 
mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello Richard
I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year ago but it 
was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.
Regards
Fanus


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Subject: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative 
for Windows & Mac | Softorino

People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you might want 
to check it out.




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Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Malcolm Parfitt]

No, you cannot purchase music, it is a program to transfer content to an Apple 
device.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 27 Oct 2019, at 14:20, richr...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> You cannot purchase music with it can you?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
> Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino
>  
> I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it.
>  
> Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in my 
> experience.
>  
> I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives to 
> ITunes but some people prefer to use these packages.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
>  Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned having 
> success with a program called Imazing.
> I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing has a free 
> trial.
>  
> 
>  
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
> Wagner
>  
> 
> 
> On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Richard
> I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year ago but it 
> was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, 25 October 2019 23:12
> To: ViPone list
> Subject: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative 
> for Windows & Mac | Softorino
>  
> People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you might 
> want to check it out.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> https://softorino.com/waltr/#
>  
> 
>  
>  
> Richard
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RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[richring]

You cannot purchase music with it can you?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes 
Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it.

 

Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in my 
experience.

 

I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives to ITunes 
but some people prefer to use these packages.

Sent from my iPhone





On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned having success 
with a program called Imazing. 

I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing has a free 
trial.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 





On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Fanus Buys mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello Richard

I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year ago but it 
was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

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Subject: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative 
for Windows & Mac | Softorino

 

People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you might want 
to check it out.







https://softorino.com/waltr/#

 

 

 

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Re: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I have been using WLTR2 since 2017 and have had no problem with it.

Note there are two programs WLTR and WLTR2 the latter works fine in my 
experience.

I know some people are highly critical and dismissive of alternatives to ITunes 
but some people prefer to use these packages.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 27 Oct 2019, at 13:43, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
>  Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned having 
> success with a program called Imazing.
> I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing has a free 
> trial.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
> Wagner
> 
> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hello Richard
>> I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year ago but it 
>> was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Friday, 25 October 2019 23:12
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>> Subject: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative 
>> for Windows & Mac | Softorino
>>  
>> People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you might 
>> want to check it out.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> https://softorino.com/waltr/#
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
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[Richard Turner]

Good to know. Arlene, who is on this list I believe, mentioned having success 
with a program called Imazing.
I've not tried either of these yet, but am going to see if Imazing has a free 
trial.




Richard
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On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:43 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:


Hello Richard
I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year ago but it 
was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.
Regards
Fanus


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People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you might want 
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RE: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard

I do not know if there were upgrades but I tried the trial a year ago but it 
was inaccessible with JAWS so I hope someone might have better news.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

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Subject: For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative 
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People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you might want 
to check it out.






https://softorino.com/waltr/#

 

 

 

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For Joe who hates iTunes, Fwd: WALTR: Effortless iTunes Alternative for Windows & Mac | Softorino

[Richard Turner]

People have recommended this program. I've never bought it, but you might want 
to check it out.


https://softorino.com/waltr/#




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